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dear John! (hey that reads heavenly) bells all the way for you! these news is a bus for touring the past! God, they are waiting for us to reach! this Christmass you'll have a full house, full yard, full street and by all means a full hart! rejoice! cheers to all of us! Did this help you a little to express? Thank you for shearing  Leticia Leon Morales

John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> escribió:
Hi Alberto:
 
Thank you for the  "heads up " on a  very interesting article.  It has quite a few names that I am presently researching.  It is going to take a few days to sort everything out to make
"heads or tails" .  Just a quick preliminary  perusing reveals a  lot of information that I can use.
 Today has been one of those days that makes you feel almost numb  from joy and good fortune.  Earlier in the day I got en E-mail from Ken Alva.  He sent me some information that will take me  all the way back to the birth of Alonso de Hermosillo in Hermosilla, Burgos, Spain in 1467 !!!   Three
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Hi Alberto:
 
Thank you for the  "heads up " on a
 very interesting article.  It has quite a few names that I am
presently researching.  It is going to take a few days to sort everything
out to make "heads or tails" .  Just a quick preliminary  perusing
reveals a  lot of information that I can use.
 Today has been one of those days that makes
you feel almost numb  from joy and good fortune.  Earlier in the
day I got en E-mail from Ken Alva.  He sent me some information that will
take me  all the way back to the birth of Alonso de Hermosillo in
Hermosilla, Burgos, Spain in 1467 !!!   Three generations in
Spain, 10 generations in Jalos, and 3 in California!  That puts me in the
16th generation of Gonzalez"s.
 I had gotten stuck with Juan Gonzalez de
Hermosillo and his wife from Mexico City .They settled in  Jalostotitlan in
the late 1500's.
Ken's information picks him up from there and
takes him three generations back into Spain!!!  Talk about getting
lucky.
I have
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John, check out the below website.  It has some of the
same names you've mentioned in some of your emails. 
The website was sit up by my wife's (Rebeca Gutierrez
Gonzalez) relatives from Los Altos, Jalisco.  I hope
it helps you find some more names and relatives.  Who
knows? we may be related.

Good luck.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

www.prodigyweb.net.mx/luzmontejano/articulos.htm

--- John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> Hello Jose:
> 
> Thank you for your kind words, we all need a few
> words of encouragement every now and then and I
> appreciate your words.  Thank you again.
> As far as : "Gonzalez de Hermosillo" is concerned, I
> found a book titled :  "Jalostotitlan a Traves de
> Los Siglos"  The book mentions Juan Gonzalez de
> Hermosillo as being one of the first settlers in
> Jalostotitlan, along with his wife Ana.  I traced my
> line all the way back to him and that's where I find
> myself at the moment.  There were 10 generations of
> "Gonzalez de
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militar insignia regarding my photos

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The last line of your message is confusing...
 
I believe the eagle was just an emblem and had
nothing to do with rank.  In the  U.S. Armed Forces, the eagle
emblem on the headgear only designates  "enlisted" or "officer"
 the enlisted has a circle around the eagle, the officer's emblem has a
bigger eagle without the circle.
 
I am no expert, but the CP could designate the
unit to which he belonged, not the rank...Keep on digging, Iam sure somebody
will come up with an answer.
Good luck.
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Subject: [ranchos] militar insignia
regarding my photos

ok, in the original picture (I should do this in the first
place)the
militar sitting has three bars in the hat and so on the
shoulders; the
other, with an eagle badge has two capital letters on the
collar C and
P. In the site www.en.wikipedia.org I found for the
mexican
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Joseph,

Can we discuss Comida? I have an idea I want to run by you. May I call you this week? Marge:)

On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:


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Date:

Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:50:26 -0500 (EST)

From:

MIMILOZANO@...

To:

MIMILOZANO@...





Click here: SOMOS PRIMOS: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity Issues

http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spdec05/spdec05.htm

Merry Christmas to all  . . . .  primos, friends, and researchers. 

I hope you will all enjoy a Merry Christmas with lots of family togetherness. 

It is a perfect opportunity to ask questions, take picture, and share family stories. 

Thank you all for your supportive comments, and for the articles and information you to share.

If

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militar insignia regarding my photos

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ok, in the original picture (I should do this in the first place)the 
militar sitting has three bars in the hat and so on the shoulders; the 
other, with an eagle badge has two capital letters on the collar C and 
P. In the site www.en.wikipedia.org I found for the mexican army that 
three bars mean Capitan Segundo (Senior Captain)and three bars with 
the one in the middle been shorter means Capitan Primero (Captain) so 
I have know why the eagle on the chest and CP on the collar.

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Subject: Somos Primos December 2005 Table of Contents lq
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:50:26 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@...
To: MIMILOZANO@...





Click
here: SOMOS PRIMOS: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity Issues



http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spdec05/spdec05.htm



Merry Christmas to all  . . . .  primos, friends, and researchers. 



I hope you will all enjoy a Merry Christmas with lots of family
togetherness. 

It is a perfect opportunity to ask questions, take picture, and share
family stories. 



Thank you all for your supportive comments, and for the articles and
information you to share.



If you have sent something and it has not been published, please
contact me. I may have misplaced the file, or not been able to read
it.    



Hope you all enjoy the Spanglish version of T'was the Night Before
Christmas.



Warmly,  Mimi



This
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Hello Jose:
 
Thank you for your kind words, we all need a few
words of encouragement every now and then and I appreciate your words. 
Thank you again.
As far as : "Gonzalez de Hermosillo" is
concerned, I found a book titled :  "Jalostotitlan a Traves de Los
Siglos"  The book mentions Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo as being one of the
first settlers in Jalostotitlan, along with his wife Ana.  I traced my line
all the way back to him and that's where I find myself at the moment. 
There were 10 generations of "Gonzalez de Hermosillo"   in
Jalos.
 I am waiting for a couple of films from the
LDS to see if I can go a little further back.  Thank you for offering me
assistance with the Gonzalez name.  My maternal grandmother's  last
name was Gonzalez, and she was from Jerez Zacatecas. There could be a connection
there between Gonzalez from Zacatecas and Durango.  I have not started
doing research  on my mother's side because I want to see how far I can go
on my father's side of
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Rank Of Leticia's Ancestors

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I stand corrected as far as  I made a
mistake in the message.  After the word example: Navy, the word Navy
doesnt belong there, the word should have been Army.
What I am saying is that the isignia is not
"Universal" as your husband states.  He is right when he says that a
Captain's insignia in the Navy is an eagle, but in the Air Force it is the
insignia for  a Colonel!  A Captain's insigina in the Air Force is two
bars!
PS: I spent 5 years in the  U.S.  Air
Force and for ten years, every two months, I would travel aboard a Mexican Navy
Coast Guard Cutter.
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jose
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:26
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Rank Of Leticia's
Ancestors

John
As a former Marine I don't believe you are
correct:
Two bars in the U.S. Navy was a Lieutenent. A Captain
insignia
in the Navy an Eagle. The Navy LT. did wear
two bars {bands} but on his
sleeve. The Captain had
f
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Hello John:
 
Congratulation!
 
Your experience about researching your ancestral line of "González de Hermosillo" has knick me in a hard way, is very impacting to any that has spent much time in our research, many times we seek where there are noting of information, in Spanish we say: "damos palos de ciego".
 
You say:
 
"I feel that being able to go back  about 455  years was mostly luck...".
 
You are very "modesto", you did your work to obtain that you now have. The "luck" is where the preparation and opportunity join to benefit our, if there is not "preparation", there is not "luck", and if there is not "opportunity", then there is not "luck". Your minds
proceed to run in the accurate way, because you were thinking about of your ancestors, and this is the best preparation to do the research. After, you were work hard to found your genealogical tree:
 
"I was surfing the internet one day and...
"I went to visit a cousin, who...
"I went to the Census records
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