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More on the ancestry of Alonso de Estrada

Hola prim@s,

This is the Ejecutoria del pleito de hidalguía filed by Licenciado Diego Hernández de Vergara, dated 12 Jul 1548: http://pares.mcu.es:80/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/5703246 
Licenciado Vergara was a 1st-cousin of treasurer & governor Alonso de Estrada, according to the very detailed genealogy given by Estrada’s cousin, Mari Fernández Hidalgo, in the 1585 limpieza of Jorge de Alvarado y Villafañe: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS2D-KSYH?cat=630488 
The genealogy given in this document coincides perfectly with that genealogy. It even goes back one more generation, and names Licenciado Vergara’s (and Estrada’s) great-grandfather as Juan Alonso, vecino de Ciudad Real (who apparently received a carta ejecutoria de su hidalguía from King Pedro de Castilla). Here’s what the family tree now looks like:

1st generation: Juan Alonso cc ?

2nd generation: Diego Hernández Hidalgo cc Mari González de Estrada

3rd generation:
a. Diego Hernández Hidalgo “el Mozo” cc María González de la Mora (abuelos de Mari Fernández Hidalgo). 
b. Anton Hernández Hidalgo cc Inés González (padres de Lᵈº Vergara). 
c. Fernando Hidalgo cc Francisca de Mazariegos (padres de Diego Mazariegos). 
d. Juan Hernández Hidalgo cc ? (padres de Alonso de Estrada).

This pleito was cited in the one filed on 22 Aug 1552 by Alonso de Estrada’s son, Luis Alfonso de Estrada, before the Sala de Hijosdalgo of the Chancellería de Granada. In that pleito, Luis Alfonso names his paternal grandfather as Juan Hidalgo, carpintero; according to Vergara’s pleito, Diego Hernández Hidalgo “el Viejo” was also a carpenter.

I hope you’re all doing well!
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
 

Does anyone know what this means?

Hello, I am looking at a baptism record for a brother of my 5th great grandfather. I have attached the record and also here is the link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-GYLD-7?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6D2Z-7KX6&action=view 

The child's name is Joesph Maria Cleofas Ledesma. The entry is the last one (bottom right page). 

The part I need help with is this... After his name it says "espanol de los ???" I don't know what the next word is and I am wondering if it is signifigant. 

Thank you!

Laura

 

Can anyone help with Nicolasa Carrillo de Sandi

My maternal line has stopped with a woman named Nicolasa Carrillo de Sandi, married to Jose Juarez Delgadillo, my 9th great-grandparents. I don’t have an information on their births or marriage, my guess is that they are located in/around Cuquío, Jalisco.

I have arrived to her through my 8th great-grandmother Juana Gertrudis Juarez Carrillo, but I have little information for her.

I do have the marriage of Juana Gertrudis Juarez Carrillo, and Juan Manuel Delgado Pacheco (son of Francisco Delgado Lopez and Rosa Maria Pacheco Nuñez) on 5 June 1724, although much is lost to the large decay on the pages: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F4YV-9?i=132

I want to continue with research into my maternal line, but in order to do that, I need to find more information on the life of Nicolasa Carrillo de Sandi. If anyone has information or familiarity of anything “Carrillo de Sandi”, or anyone who also has her in their tree, I would very much appreciate it!

Seeking information on Montellano's (Zacatecas - Jalisco)

Seeking any assistance or information on Pedro Jose Montellano or Son Jose Maria Montellano either from Zacatecas or Ojuelos Jalisco, I found information related to Los Pinos or Magueyes Zac. however very limited. 

Information I found in Ojuelos Jalisco, Montellano is spelled as Monteyano or Montejano, which could be a typo or possibly how it was spelled during that era. 

Any assistance would be appreciated. 

Panteón Francés de la Piedad wants reparations/compensation

I believe I have found the resting place of one Francisco Campos Aguinaga. He died in 1915 after a mining accident in Southern Arizona a few years earlier. His civil death states he was put to rest at the Panteón Francés de la Piedad in Mexico City. (The other Panteon Frances was built in the 1940s.) 

An acquaintance was able to get photos of the crypt and marker.  However the surname on the larger crypt is different. It is marked "Familia Casasola." The marker at the foot of the crypt, "164," is the only indicator, that helped to find Francisco's plot.  (I've included photos of the grave site.)

Other than the civil death record I have no other way to verify that this is our guy. 

Now it gets interesting. 

After help in locating the plot with help from the Mexican Consulate in Texas,  and a genealogist in Mexico DF who took photos, the cemetery is now saying that the plot may not have been fully paid for back in the day. (Is this customary?) The family would like to help restore at least part of the crypt (hasn't been touched in decades were told). But so far I have no deed/land record to verify. (Should the cemetary have this? )

I'd like to obtain more sources about the burial and am asking the cemetery to provide such, especially since he was apparently buried there. 

Im not sure where else to go on this. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 

civil death:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R29-7TG?i=4872&cc=1923424&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQG4X-BPC3

 

Trevino or Temiño that is the question!

So I was doing my usual researchy thing online looking at struggle lines like Diego de Trevino when I happened up a few older research documents you guys find interesting to add to your stash.

The entomology of the name was fascinating to me so I decided to see what towns they were actually referencing in Spain. So indeed I looked up Temiño, Spain.  It is an fact a real town and that is indeed the way it is spelled. It is also the town where the references "Don Alfonso Ruiz de Temirio y Doña Sancha de Velasco".  Even in the old research docs the the spelling varies. These are the ancestors that Baltasar Temiño references to prove his noble lineage in Zacatecas.

So while spelling would vary depending on the scribe and their educational and cultural background it is now evident to me that Baltsar Temiño is indeed a Temiño NOT Trevino. Now it could be that the town of Temiño could have old ties to the Condes de Trevino and they are from another branch they however achieved their "grandee status" through the primogenture given to them by Rey Enrique IV in Segovia in December 21 de 1470. They were being given the primogenture aka "La constitución del mayorazgo de los Temirio".

In fact is a Baltasar who is ACTIVELY seeking to not only show proof of nobility but HIS RIGHTFUL ownership to the grandee status of the Mayorazgo and to his descendants FOREVER. So now we have that settled I will move on, his brother comes back with the document from Spain in hand yes the same Fray and because he has joined the church he is not entitled to right of ownership or the title as written in the deed by the King. Furthermore Baltasar shows not just the document but 13 witnesses to prove he is who he says he is and proof of his heritage before his proofs are accepted and they were indeed accepted. 

Now why do does this matter to our story of Diego de Trevino? Diego de Trevino is thought to come from the Temiños. Before I thought it might be possible now I am not too sure and we just might be able to cross this group of people off our lists. 

There seems to be a clear distinction and not one of misspellings between the name Trevino and Temiño. In fact while both locations are in Burgos one is closer to the Basque region while the other is situated smack dab in the middle of Burgos. The town of Temiño even has the escudos/ family shield of the Temiño family granted to them with the deed. This is NOT the Trevino family or from Trevino the town.

I think I read here that the Diego signed his own name? Can I get a look at that if someone has this on here? I read Spanish paleography also so if you have anything you might throw my way I think I can help. 

Meanwhile I will send you what I found online https://riubu.ubu.es/bitstream/handle/10259.4/2360/0211_8998_n235_p475-488.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Please let me know if you have found any updates on Diego de Trevino. I am leaning toward him definitely being a Trevino and not a Temiño especially considering this finding of there being a clear distinction between the 2 names historically with 2 completely different shields. Usually if they come from the same family they will show similar variations of quarterings and here we see they are clearly different. :)

I look forward to your responses and brainstorming! 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

Buitrón Mujica from Celaya

Hi, I am fairly new to this forum so please excuse me if I do something wrong. 

I have several ancestors from the Celaya area, and I am wondering if anyone has information about the parents of Pedro Buitrón Mujica AKA Pedro Vallejo born c.1700 in Celaya and married to Catarina Tena Padilla in 01/FEB/1736 in Celaya. 
I am aware he is a "clandestine" son of Francisco Buitrón Mujica, and from the glances I was able to find as previews from "Los Tena de Celaya" by Rafael Nieto y Cortadellas, it looks like his mother might be Manuela Vallejo García (Daugther of Diego Vallejo Torres and Juana García Diosdado), but I haven't been able to find documentation to confirm this, so any help will be greatly appreciated.

I have read in "Retoños de España..." and in this forum that Mr. hfaizcorbe, you are and expert in the region so I would love to know if you have any information regarding this family. 

Thank you in advance,

Salvador Rivas