Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.
I believe the most information is posted in Connie Dominguez family research
that she has posted on the Nuestrosranchos website, much of it covers the
Ruiz de Esparza lines.
>From: arturoramos
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are
>centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of
>a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan
>de Escobedo.
JN. DE ESCOBEDO
Marriages:
Spouse: TERESA DE ULLOA Family
Marriage: 06 JAN 1669 Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M602486 1637 - 1669 0639754
In Nicolas de Anda Sanchez's new book he has listed Teresa as Teresa Ulloa Ruiz Esparza married Capt. Juan de Escobedo on 6 June 1669 in Teocaltiche.
In my book I'm working on, I have:
Ruiz de Esparza, Maria
The daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabay. She married Nicolas de Ulloa. Her parents were known residents of Aguascalientes from 1622 to 1652. She is mentioned in the requested marriage dispensation of her granddaughter, Elvira de Ulloa to Joseph de Torres on 1 January 1689 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco.
I am researching the Ruiz de Esparza but I have not reached back into this time period yet or into Aguascalientes. To date my Ruiz de Esparza are in Nochistlan and Jalpa Zacatecas and one in Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes. Yesterday I did find a new Ruiz de Esparza ancestor, Pablo Ruiz de Esparza soltero de 37 años se caso con Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza celive de 35 años, ambos de la Hacienda de Tlachichila. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza es hijo de Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Gertrudis Macias que viven. Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza, hija de Antonio Ruiz de Esparza finado y Maria San Juana Sigala que vive. Se casaraon en Nochistlan año de 1864.
I had to order film # 0226832, Informacion Matrimonial because the marriage films for this year did not record the names of the parents for the bride and the groom. Luckily I was able to find it yesterday in informacion matrimonial.
Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza is my GGG grandfather. He and Maria Gertrudis Macias, Valades married 30 May 1810 in Nochistlan Zac and there my trail ends. I do not have birth dates or places for either of them. They were both still living in 1864 when their son Pablo Ruiz de Esparza married Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza is the brother of my GG grandfather Mateo Ruiz de Esparza who in his marriage document to his first wife Florencia Gonzales, Ximenes (not my ancestress) on 08 Jan 1845 was said to have been from Tepezala, Jalpa Zacatecas. Mateo would have been born around 1825 in Jalpa but there are no birth records for Jalpa prior to 1884.
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif
----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:50:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.
I am researching the Ruiz de Esparza but I have not reached back into this time period yet or into Aguascalientes. To date my Ruiz de Esparza are in Nochistlan and Jalpa Zacatecas and one in Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes. Yesterday I did find a new Ruiz de Esparza ancestor, Pablo Ruiz de Esparza soltero de 37 años se caso con Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza celive de 35 años, ambos de la Hacienda de Tlachichila. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza es hijo de Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Gertrudis Macias que viven. Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza, hija de Antonio Ruiz de Esparza finado y Maria San Juana Sigala que vive. Se casaraon en Nochistlan año de 1864.
I had to order film # 0226832, Informacion Matrimonial because the marriage films for this year did not record the names of the parents for the bride and the groom. Luckily I was able to find it yesterday in informacion matrimonial.
Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza is my GGG grandfather. He and Maria Gertrudis Macias, Valades married 30 May 1810 in Nochistlan Zac and there my trail ends. I do not have birth dates or places for either of them. They were both still living in 1864 when their son Pablo Ruiz de Esparza married Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza is the brother of my GG grandfather Mateo Ruiz de Esparza who in his marriage document to his first wife Florencia Gonzales, Ximenes (not my ancestress) on 08 Jan 1845 was said to have been from Tepezala, Jalpa Zacatecas. Mateo would have been born around 1825 in Jalpa but there are no birth records for Jalpa prior to 1884.
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif
----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:50:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.
Has anyone used the LDS submitted sheets on IGI and had any success? I have found two possible candidates for my Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... both daughters of the same couple... one probably died and they renamed another daughter the same name..
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening: 19 NOV 1635 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening:
01 JUN 1643 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
I have several ancestors listed this way, but when I inquired about what is on the films for these, I was told that the information is very limited, that the forms submitted are simple "group sheets" submitted by members or transcribed from other sources such as civil records, published genealogies, etc. for "Temple-Ready" purposes.
I did find one contact listed in an Ancestral File, but my letter to her was returned as undeliverable --"no forwarding address".
I'd be interested too to see if anyone has had any success in viewing these films.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
----- Original Message -----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] LDS Member Submitted Sheets
Has anyone used the LDS submitted sheets on IGI and had any success? I have found two possible candidates for my Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... both daughters of the same couple... one probably died and they renamed another daughter the same name..
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening: 19 NOV 1635 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening:
01 JUN 1643 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
Can't say I've had success but I did find the specific information on
some relatives and sent the person a post card that they never replied
to. [note: I'm pretty sure all you will find is a submitted family group
sheet(s) with the contact info written on them]. I would look for the
same info in the Ancestral Files and Petigree Resource files before
ordering the film. I think sometimes you can find the same information
online for the contact info.
joseph
arturoramos wrote:
>Has anyone used the LDS submitted sheets on IGI and had any success? I have found two possible candidates for my Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... both daughters of the same couple... one probably died and they renamed another daughter the same name..
>
>TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
> Female
> Christening: 19 NOV 1635 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
>Parents:
> Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
> Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
>
>Messages:
> Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
>
>Source Information:
> Batch Number: 8685105
> Sheet: 15
> Source Call No.: 1396260
>
>TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
> Female
> Christening:
>01 JUN 1643 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
>
>Parents:
> Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
> Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
>
>Messages:
> Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
>
>Source Information:
> Batch Number: 8685105
> Sheet: 15
> Source Call No.: 1396260
Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
I believe the most information is posted in Connie Dominguez family research
that she has posted on the Nuestrosranchos website, much of it covers the
Ruiz de Esparza lines.
>From: arturoramos
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are
>centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of
>a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan
>de Escobedo.
Arturo,According to the
Arturo,
According to the IGI-
JN. DE ESCOBEDO
Marriages:
Spouse: TERESA DE ULLOA Family
Marriage: 06 JAN 1669 Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M602486 1637 - 1669 0639754
In Nicolas de Anda Sanchez's new book he has listed Teresa as Teresa Ulloa Ruiz Esparza married Capt. Juan de Escobedo on 6 June 1669 in Teocaltiche.
In my book I'm working on, I have:
Ruiz de Esparza, Maria
The daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabay. She married Nicolas de Ulloa. Her parents were known residents of Aguascalientes from 1622 to 1652. She is mentioned in the requested marriage dispensation of her granddaughter, Elvira de Ulloa to Joseph de Torres on 1 January 1689 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco.
Rose Gonzales-Hardy
Los Ruiz de Esparza
Arturo,
I am researching the Ruiz de Esparza but I have not reached back into this time period yet or into Aguascalientes. To date my Ruiz de Esparza are in Nochistlan and Jalpa Zacatecas and one in Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes. Yesterday I did find a new Ruiz de Esparza ancestor, Pablo Ruiz de Esparza soltero de 37 años se caso con Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza celive de 35 años, ambos de la Hacienda de Tlachichila. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza es hijo de Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Gertrudis Macias que viven. Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza, hija de Antonio Ruiz de Esparza finado y Maria San Juana Sigala que vive. Se casaraon en Nochistlan año de 1864.
I had to order film # 0226832, Informacion Matrimonial because the marriage films for this year did not record the names of the parents for the bride and the groom. Luckily I was able to find it yesterday in informacion matrimonial.
Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza is my GGG grandfather. He and Maria Gertrudis Macias, Valades married 30 May 1810 in Nochistlan Zac and there my trail ends. I do not have birth dates or places for either of them. They were both still living in 1864 when their son Pablo Ruiz de Esparza married Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza is the brother of my GG grandfather Mateo Ruiz de Esparza who in his marriage document to his first wife Florencia Gonzales, Ximenes (not my ancestress) on 08 Jan 1845 was said to have been from Tepezala, Jalpa Zacatecas. Mateo would have been born around 1825 in Jalpa but there are no birth records for Jalpa prior to 1884.
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif
----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:50:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.
Los Ruiz de Esparza
Arturo,
I am researching the Ruiz de Esparza but I have not reached back into this time period yet or into Aguascalientes. To date my Ruiz de Esparza are in Nochistlan and Jalpa Zacatecas and one in Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes. Yesterday I did find a new Ruiz de Esparza ancestor, Pablo Ruiz de Esparza soltero de 37 años se caso con Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza celive de 35 años, ambos de la Hacienda de Tlachichila. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza es hijo de Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Gertrudis Macias que viven. Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza, hija de Antonio Ruiz de Esparza finado y Maria San Juana Sigala que vive. Se casaraon en Nochistlan año de 1864.
I had to order film # 0226832, Informacion Matrimonial because the marriage films for this year did not record the names of the parents for the bride and the groom. Luckily I was able to find it yesterday in informacion matrimonial.
Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza is my GGG grandfather. He and Maria Gertrudis Macias, Valades married 30 May 1810 in Nochistlan Zac and there my trail ends. I do not have birth dates or places for either of them. They were both still living in 1864 when their son Pablo Ruiz de Esparza married Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza is the brother of my GG grandfather Mateo Ruiz de Esparza who in his marriage document to his first wife Florencia Gonzales, Ximenes (not my ancestress) on 08 Jan 1845 was said to have been from Tepezala, Jalpa Zacatecas. Mateo would have been born around 1825 in Jalpa but there are no birth records for Jalpa prior to 1884.
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif
----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:50:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.
LDS Member Submitted Sheets
Has anyone used the LDS submitted sheets on IGI and had any success? I have found two possible candidates for my Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... both daughters of the same couple... one probably died and they renamed another daughter the same name..
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening: 19 NOV 1635 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
Source Information:
Batch Number: 8685105
Sheet: 15
Source Call No.: 1396260
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening:
01 JUN 1643 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
Source Information:
Batch Number: 8685105
Sheet: 15
Source Call No.: 1396260
LDS Member Submitted Sheets
Arturo,
I have several ancestors listed this way, but when I inquired about what is on the films for these, I was told that the information is very limited, that the forms submitted are simple "group sheets" submitted by members or transcribed from other sources such as civil records, published genealogies, etc. for "Temple-Ready" purposes.
I did find one contact listed in an Ancestral File, but my letter to her was returned as undeliverable --"no forwarding address".
I'd be interested too to see if anyone has had any success in viewing these films.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
----- Original Message -----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] LDS Member Submitted Sheets
Has anyone used the LDS submitted sheets on IGI and had any success? I have found two possible candidates for my Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... both daughters of the same couple... one probably died and they renamed another daughter the same name..
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening: 19 NOV 1635 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
Source Information:
Batch Number: 8685105
Sheet: 15
Source Call No.: 1396260
TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
Female
Christening:
01 JUN 1643 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Parents:
Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
Source Information:
Batch Number: 8685105
Sheet: 15
Source Call No.: 1396260
LDS Member Submitted Sheets
Can't say I've had success but I did find the specific information on
some relatives and sent the person a post card that they never replied
to. [note: I'm pretty sure all you will find is a submitted family group
sheet(s) with the contact info written on them]. I would look for the
same info in the Ancestral Files and Petigree Resource files before
ordering the film. I think sometimes you can find the same information
online for the contact info.
joseph
arturoramos wrote:
>Has anyone used the LDS submitted sheets on IGI and had any success? I have found two possible candidates for my Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... both daughters of the same couple... one probably died and they renamed another daughter the same name..
>
>TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
> Female
> Christening: 19 NOV 1635 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
>Parents:
> Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
> Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
>
>Messages:
> Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
>
>Source Information:
> Batch Number: 8685105
> Sheet: 15
> Source Call No.: 1396260
>
>TERESA RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA
> Female
> Christening:
>01 JUN 1643 Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
>
>Parents:
> Father: JACINTO RUIZ-DE-ESPARZA Family
> Mother: JUANA LOPEZ-DE-ELIZALDE
>
>Messages:
> Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
>
>Source Information:
> Batch Number: 8685105
> Sheet: 15
> Source Call No.: 1396260