Arturo:

I'm descendant from Roberto Enriquez and his wife Juana Antonia Josefa Rosalia, but haven't been able to go beyond theirs parents, as well as oh Alejandro Márquez de los Olivos and Agustina de Escobedo.

I've tried to find the books by these authors without success. If anyone knows where to get them, please let us know.

regaqrds,
Héctor

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:16:13 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Agustin Enriquez in Colotlan> > > Hector:> > I too am descendant from Agustin Enriquez and Maria Josepha del Castillo through their son Juan Joseph and his wife Josefa Antonia Madera:> > http://www.ramosfamily.org/nextgen/getperson.php?personID=I1375> > My paternal grandmother's surnames were Gutierrez Enriquez.> > I would love to get a copy of the book that Silvia mentions. It seems the author, who is an ex-mayor of Colotlan, is still active academically... perhaps we can track him down. I would also like to get a copy of a couple of other Colotlan history books. One is by Nicolas Valdes Huerta and Jean Meyer and another by Renato Haro Ortega and Bernardo Carlos Casas.> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

Hi Angie,

I have identified the 2 couples that you mentioned, but none seems to be the parents of my Alejandro Marquez de los Olivos, unless Alejandro was born before the first date of parish records kept in Colotlan.

I have the following parents for the first couple:

Jose Marquez de los Olivos (son of Miguel Marquez de los Olivos y Luisa de Figueroa) and Gertrudis Rincon de Ortega, married in Cienega de Mata on 16th December, 1671.

Bartolome Sanchez and Josefa Cabañez.

Jose de la Trinidad Flores and Gertrudis de Ortega were mestizos. In all but one of the entries for their children Jose de la Trinidad appears only with that name, without "Flores". If you find something on them, please let me know.

Regards,
Hector

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: aajay1073@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:04:00 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marquez de los Olivos from Colotlan, Jalisco> > > Hello Hector,> > Your message caught by attention since I too am researching the Marquez de los Olivos from the Colotlan area. I am acutally researching two different families whom I suspect are related to one another but I haven't found their common ancestor yet. One couple are my 7th great-grandparents from my father's side and the other couple are my 6th great-grandparents from my mother's side.> > (1) Phelipe MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS married Francisca Xaviera SANCHEZ.> > Their children were as follows:> i. Joseph MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS. He married on 28 Jan 1732 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Monica Josepha ROSALES, daughter of Joseph ROSALES and Phelipa de la Trinidad (---).> ii. Joseph MARQUES. He married on 1 Nov 1735 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Simona RAMIREZ, daughter of Diego RAMIREZ and Maria DE ORTEGA.> iii. Maria Manuela MARQUES. She married Francisco BONILLA.> iv. Josepha MARQUES SANCHEZ, christened 9 May 1720 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.> v. Ana de San Joachin MARQUES SANCHEZ, christened 25 Oct 1722 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.> vi. Francisco Xavier MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS. He married on 22 Feb 1751 in Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico Maria Narciza SANCHEZ CASTELLANO, daughter of Phelipe Manuel SANCHEZ and Josepha de los Santos SANDOVAL.> vii. Joseph Antonio MARQUES. He married on 3 Mar 1726 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juana Francisca GAMBOA, daughter of Augustin DE GAMBOA and Simona DE ORTEGA> > (2) Francisco MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS married Theresa RAMIREZ DE LA ROSA.> > Their children were as follows:> i. Luiza Theresa MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS. She married on 12 Jun 1740 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juan Mathias DE CARDENAS, son of Bartholome DE CARDENAS and Barbara GUTIERRES.> ii. Antonia Petronila MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 12 Jul 1719 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She married on 12 Jun 1740 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Christobal de los Santos DE CARDENAS, son of Bartholome DE CARDENAS and Barbara GUTIERRES.> iii. Mathias Nicolas MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 12 Apr 1722 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He married (1) on 10 Jul 1748 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juana Anttonia ROMERO RAMIREZ, christened 5 Jul 1733 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico, daughter of Francisco Xavier ROMERO and Maria de la Trinidad RAMIREZ; (2) on 24 Oct 1752 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Antonia Marcela DE RESA.> iv. Mathias MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 28 Dec 1724 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.> v. Pedro MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 11 Mar 1728 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.> vi. Juan de Dios Joseph MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 9 Apr 1733 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.> vii. Rosalia MARQUES RAMIREZ, christened 11 Jan 1737 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.> > Your other couple, "Jose de la Trinidad Flores and María Gertrudis de Ortega" look familar also. I am going to check my notes and see what I can find on them.> > Let me know if anything looks familar.> > Thanks,> Angie Godina> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org