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For Bill Figueroa, re Moran & Martines-Calbillo / Lopes
Bill, I have several questions about the family of Domingo MORAN and his wife Antonia MARTINES-CALBILLO / LOPES. Where does the LOPES come in with Antonia MARTINES-CALBILLO? Are their parents named in their wedding document [4 Aug 1665]?
Did Domingo and Antonia have other children besides Nicolas [wife Andrea ALONSO Ruis-Esparsa] and Juan [wife Lorenza MORAN]?
Thank you in advance for any help you might provide. I'm related to this Martines-Calbillo family through several lines.
Gloria Delgado
Albany, CA
MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO
Bill and others,
I was checking the marriage record of Domingo Moran with Antonia Martinez-Calvillo, and found some interesting details about Antonia's name. I've transcribed the record below. Note that her name was first recorded as Maria (left margin), but in the body text as Antonia. Maria was changed at a later date to Josepha, and since they were not 'velados' the day of their wedding, a note to that effect was entered (velados 9 marzo 1666). I found that document (transcribed below) and Antonia is identified as Josepha Calvillo. Finally, Domingo is referred in both documents as Viudo. Any idea who was his first wife?
Got JPG of both documents if anyone wants to see them.
(Al margen) Domingo Moran viudo con (Maria-deleted) Josepha Martinez casados y no velados, velelos 9 de marzo de 1666.
En quattro de Agosto de mil seicientos y sesenta y cinco case y no vele a Domigo Moran (e)sp(añol)L con Antonia Martinez (e)sp(año)la fueron testigos Fran(cis)co Sotelo y Miguel de Espinosa y Thomas Valero y lo firme. Rubrica D. Bartolome de Soto y Carvajal
(Al margen) Vele a Domingo Moran Viudo con Josepha Calvillo
1666. En nueve de marzo año de mil seiscientos y sesenta y seis vele infacie eclecie a Domingo Moran (e)sp(añol) viudo con Josepha Calvillo (e)sp(ñol)a fueron sus Padrinos Nicolas de Avila y Clara de la Cruz fueron testigos Andres de Aiala y Miguel Lopez de la Cerda y lo firme. Rúbrica D. Bartolome de Soto y Carvajal
Jaime R. Alvarado
MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO
Hi Jaime, Id like a copy of the records you have on Josepha (Antonia María), I am too related to the Moran Ledesma and Martínez de Calvillo families. I think I might have the people you stated in my database, I need to check. -Daniel Camino
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Daniel,
Did you receive the copies of records I sent you?
Jaime
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Hi Jaime, Id like a copy of the records you have on Josepha (Antonia María), I am too related to the Moran Ledesma and Martínez de Calvillo families. I think I might have the people you stated in my database, I need to check. -Daniel Camino
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Hello Jaime
I have been working on my sister in laws family. I just connected it to the calbillo family so I would also like a copy.
Thanks Rick
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO
Daniel,
Did you receive the copies of records I sent you?
Jaime
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel M?ndez del Camino"
To: "Patty Hoyos"
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:35:02 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO
Hi Jaime, Id like a copy of the records you have on Josepha (Antonia María), I am too related to the Moran Ledesma and Martínez de Calvillo families. I think I might have the people you stated in my database, I need to check. -Daniel Camino
mendezdelcamino@live.com
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yes, many thanks! -Daniel
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Jaime,
I checked several church records and all refer to Domingo Moran's wife as Antonia Calvillo, or Antonia Martínez Calvillo. For example, when she died in 1675 her burial record, dated 28 May 1675 says "fue enterrada Antonia Calbillo, muger que fue de Domingo Moran. No testó".
The baptismal records of her five children, all born between 1665-1675, name their mother as Antonia Calvillo. Therefore, the fact that her marriage record had her first as María, then Antonia and finally as Josepha, indicates to me that the priest was not sure of her name when he made the entry in the books.
I doesn't surprise me that Domingo Morán was a widower when he married Antonia Calvillo. He remarried a year after Antonia died His last wife was Nicolasa Vásquez (aka Nicolasa Martel) whom he married on 13 May 1676 in Aguascalientes. Domingo Morán was buried 25 Dec 1686 also in Aguas. Nicolasa survived him by six years until she died in 1692. She was buried in Aguascalientes 18 Jan 1692.
I would appreciate it if you could send me the two scans of his wedding to Antonia Calvillo.
Bill Figueroa
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From: "Jaime Alvarado"
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Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO
Bill and others,
I was checking the marriage record of Domingo Moran with Antonia Martinez-Calvillo, and found some interesting details about Antonia's name. I've transcribed the record below. Note that her name was first recorded as Maria (left margin), but in the body text as Antonia. Maria was changed at a later date to Josepha, and since they were not 'velados' the day of their wedding, a note to that effect was entered (velados 9 marzo 1666). I found that document (transcribed below) and Antonia is identified as Josepha Calvillo. Finally, Domingo is referred in both documents as Viudo. Any idea who was his first wife?
Got JPG of both documents if anyone wants to see them.
(Al margen) Domingo Moran viudo con (Maria-deleted) Josepha Martinez casados y no velados, velelos 9 de marzo de 1666.
En quattro de Agosto de mil seicientos y sesenta y cinco case y no vele a Domigo Moran (e)sp(añol)L con Antonia Martinez (e)sp(año)la fueron testigos Fran(cis)co Sotelo y Miguel de Espinosa y Thomas Valero y lo firme. Rubrica D. Bartolome de Soto y Carvajal
(Al margen) Vele a Domingo Moran Viudo con Josepha Calvillo
1666. En nueve de marzo año de mil seiscientos y sesenta y seis vele infacie eclecie a Domingo Moran (e)sp(añol) viudo con Josepha Calvillo (e)sp(ñol)a fueron sus Padrinos Nicolas de Avila y Clara de la Cruz fueron testigos Andres de Aiala y Miguel Lopez de la Cerda y lo firme. Rúbrica D. Bartolome de Soto y Carvajal
Jaime R. Alvarado
MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO / LOPES
Gloria,
Domingo Morán and Antonia Martínez Calvillo were married in Aguascalientes on 4 Aug 1665. As far as I know, they had the following children:
1.. Joseph Morán Martínez who married María López de Saldaña
2.. Juan Morán Martínez who married Juana de Montoya
3.. Domingo Morán Martínez, no additional information.
4.. Nicolás Morán Martínez, who died infant.
5.. Nicolás Martínez Morán (second with that name) who married Andrea Alonso de los Hinojos (aka Andrea Ruiz de Esparza)
Antonia Martínez Calvillo died in Aguascalientes on 28 May 1675. The following year Domingo Morán married Nicolasa Vázquez (aka Nicolasa Martel) in Aguascalientes (13 May 1676). They had no children. Domingo died ten years later on 25 Dec 1686. His second wife died on 18 Jan 1692.
Antonia Martínez Calvillo appears in some documents with the surname López Calvillo. I still haven't figured out why. She was mostly known as Antonia Calvillo. The parents of Domingo Morán and Antonia Martínez Calvillo are not mentioned in their marriage record.
Hope this helps.
Bill Figueroa
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From: "Gloria"
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:15 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] MORAN and MARTINES-CALBILLO / LOPES
> For Bill Figueroa, re Moran & Martines-Calbillo / Lopes
>
> Bill, I have several questions about the family of Domingo MORAN and his wife Antonia MARTINES-CALBILLO / LOPES. Where does the LOPES come in with Antonia MARTINES-CALBILLO? Are their parents named in their wedding document [4 Aug 1665]?
>
> Did Domingo and Antonia have other children besides Nicolas [wife Andrea ALONSO Ruis-Esparsa] and Juan [wife Lorenza MORAN]?
>
> Thank you in advance for any help you might provide. I'm related to this Martines-Calbillo family through several lines.
>
> Gloria Delgado
> Albany, CA