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PEDRO ROMO DE BIBAR Pedigree
  Male   Family

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Marriages:
  Spouse:  LORENSA DE SPARSA Family
  Marriage:  05 MAY 1658   El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico

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  1. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Jaime R. Alvarado)
  2. Re: Orden de fotos (patty haro)
  3. Re: Jos? Joseph (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)
  4. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)
  5. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)
  6. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)
  7. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or (mendezdelcamino)
  8. Re: Jos? Joseph (Stuart Armstrong)
  9. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Stuart Armstrong)
  10. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Miggy GUTIERREZ)
  11. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)
  12. Re: Jos? Joseph (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)
  13. Re: Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde
      (Jaime R. Alvarado)
  14. Re: Jos? Joseph (AliceBB)
  15. Re: Jos? Joseph (Stuart Armstrong)
  16. Re: Jos? Joseph (Daniel M?ndez del Camino)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:21:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Jaime R. Alvarado"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza
    Lizalde
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Miggy,
I am assuming that you are referring to the Luisa married to Juan de Ortiz. If that is correct then:
Juan Ortiz married Luisa de Esparza Lozano and Pedro Macias Valades married Luisa de Esparza Lisalde.

Jaime

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miggy GUTIERREZ"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:04:58 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde

Jaime, Luisa was the daughter of Pedro Ruiz de Esparza and Juana Lozano from Aguascalientes.

Miguel Angel Gutierrez
----- Original Message -----
From: Jaime Alvarado
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luisa Esparza Lozano or Luisa Esparza Lizalde

Juan de Ortiz married Luisa de Esparza on Dec. 13, 1666 in Aguascalientes (no parents listed). I've checked all the images of "Informacion Matrimonial" for 1666 in Pilot, but there are several months missing for that year. I was able to identify two potential individuals in Aguascalientes: Luisa Esparza Lozano, b. 6 Feb 1637, daughter of Pedro Ruiz Esparza and Juana Lozano, and Luisa Esparza Lisalde, born 28 Feb 1648 daughter of Jacinto Ruiz de Esparza and Juana Lopez Lisalde. I also know that Pedro Macias Valades married a Luisa de Esparza on July 2 1684 (no parents listed), after the death of his first wife, Francisca de Quiroga. Thus I am trying to figure out which of the two Luisas correspond to the respective marriages. Any help will be appreciated.

Jaime