Hello All!
 
Please tell me what is "incorporation" I don´t have a clue what are you proposing about for "nuestros ranchos". What is the meaning of "next level"?
 
Por favor díganme qué es "incorporación" No tengo idea de lo que están proponiendo para "nuestros ranchos". ¿Cuál es el significado de "siguiente nivel"?
 
Thnk you in advance, Leticia Leon

--- El dom 12-abr-09, Efrain Conrique escribió:

De:: Efrain Conrique
Asunto: FW: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] The next step for Nuestros Ranchos - El próximo paso para Nuestros Ranchos
A: "NuestrosRanchos"
Cc: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
Fecha: domingo, 12 abril, 2009, 4:01 pm

Arturo,

This thread being sent to the general membership as requested.

Efrain.

----- Original Message -----
From: Arturo Ramos
To: conrique1@earthlink.net
Sent: 4/12/2009 9:52:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] The next step for Nuestros Ranchos - El
próximo paso para Nuestros Ranchos

Thank you for your thoughtful insight on the topic Enfrain. If you would not
mind, I would appreciate you posting this to the general membership. I think it
useful to have contrasting points of view such that we make an informed
decision.

I too have largely shared your opinion that the current activities of the group
do not merit incorporation. It was the spontaneous generosity shown by the
membership. I know I have come across many opportunities where the goals of our
group could have been greatly advanced with some financial resources, but I am a
bit weary of doing fundraising without the framework of a formal organization.

I serve as Treasurer for my graduate school alumni association which is
incorporated and it is a bit of a hassle to maintain all of the requisite
filings with the District of Columbia government and the IRS but also not
overwhelming. We turn over perhaps 2,000 or 3,000 a year which I imagine would
be the range of Nuestros Ranchos activities. In that case, when we have
undertaken larger endeavors, we have the University take on the contracts, etc.
on our behalf since they have the in-house legal resources and insurance, etc.
in place. Perhaps finding an existing organization with similar goals to take
us under for fundraising activities, etc. might be an option.

El 12 de abril de 2009 0:17, Efrain Conrique
escribió:

Arturo,

This is the second time that I have noticed mentioning of consideration of
organizing a non-profit corporation around Nuestros Ranchos and I
"passed"
on the subject the previous time because I didn't think it was worthwhile
for the then apparent functions/activities of this group.

I have personally organized (or had significant responsibilities in the
organization or restructuring of) probably around 100 nonprofit
corporations in California. Most of them were quite small --- like youth
groups ala soccer/Pop Warner/ Little League/etc, --- where it was deemed
advisable because of the significant exposures to unwarranted liabilities
to volunteers and other program participants, and because of its advantages
when soliciting donations from businesses and the general public . About a
dozen of these activities were for much larger corporations, like community
clinics, community and economic development organizations, scientific
research groups, and a major children's hospital.

Except for the larger organizations, these tasks were done completely on a
pro bono basis.

I mention this as background for my continued opinion that, as I visualize
them, Nuestros Ranchos prospective activities and programs do not expose it
to foreseeable liabilities or require soliciting and management of
significant amounts of funds, and therefore, I consider forming and
operating Nuestros Ranchos as a corporation is tantamount to buying and
operating a pneumatic jackhammer when only an occasional need for a shovel
is necessary.

In any event, I am willing to discuss the activities that you envision this
prospective nonprofit corporation would undertake and, if appropriate,
participate at no cost in your demonstrated good efforts.

Best regards,

Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California
858-565-0464
www.businessdevelopmentbureau.com

PS: If you desire, I can translate this into Spanish and distribute it to
the general membership of Nuestros Ranchos.

> [Original Message]
> From:
> To:
> Date: 4/11/2009 7:43:33 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The next step for Nuestros Ranchos - El
próximo paso para Nuestros Ranchos
>
> Joseph Puentes and I had dinner tonight with and he presented me with a
large number of letters from Nuestros Ranchos members expressing their
gratitude for my work on the site, many of which included monetary
contributions. I am extremely moved and grateful at members' generosity
and throughtfulness. I discussed with Joseph that I could not accept the
money, but that I would be willing to take the money and use it as the seed
money to incorporate Nuestros Ranchos as a nonprofit so as to take it to
the next level.

I have been on the Boards of a number of nonprofits and understand the work
involved, but I think this group has been blessed with many volunteers and
as long as we continue to have such involvement and keep our goals modest,
we will inevitably succeed.

Please let me know if you would like to take part in this process. I am
thinking it would be best to incorporate in Texas or California where we
have the largest membership as having a resident in the state of
incorporation is a requirement.

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/texas/forming-nonprofit-corporat…
exas

ESPAÑOL

Joseph Puentes y yo cenamos junto esta noche y al fin de la cena me
presentó un gran número de cartas de miembros de Nuestros Ranchos
expresando su agradecimiento por mi trabajo en el sitio, y muchas de las
cartas incluían aportaciones dinerarias. Estoy muy conmovido y agradecido
a los miembros por su generosidad y consideración. Le dije a Joseph que no
podía aceptar el dinero, pero que yo estaría dispuesto a tomar el dinero
y utilizarlo como el capital inicial para incorporar Nuestros Ranchos como
una organización sin fines de lucro a fin de llevar a la orgnización al
próximo nivel.

He sido parte de las mesas directivas de un número de organizaciones sin
fines de lucro y entiendo el trabajo que supone mi propuesta, pero creo que
este grupo ha sido bendecido con muchos voluntarios y mientras sigamos
teniendo esa participación y mantengamos nuestros objetivos modestos,
inevitablemente tendremos éxito.

Por favor, hágamelo saber si le gustaría tomar parte en este proceso.
Pienso que lo mejor sería incorporar en Texas o California, donde tenemos
los números más grandes de miembros ya que un requisito es tener un
agente residente en el estado de incorporación.

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/texas/forming-nonprofit-corporat…
exas