Its research donated to the Mormon Family History Centers by a respected researcher (Jaime Hocombe) incorporates the heart of the Alteño lines. I have a copy of about 1000 families and their immediate kids from mid 1500 to 1800. When you do a search by name, you probably get Jaime Holcombes information or reference.----- Original Message -----
From: Emilie Garcia
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] María Ruiz de Esparza

Miggy,

When you say "Jaime Holcombe research", are you talking about a book, or an online database? Where can I access
Jaime's data?

Thanks,

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

----- Original Message -----
From: Miggy GUTIERREZ>
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] María Ruiz de Esparza

Daniel, I got it from Jaime Holcombe research. He married Juana about 1629. They had about 11 kids. Margarita b-1630, Maria abt 1632, Teresa 11/19/1635, Pablo, 12/10/1637, Ana 6/8/1640, Nicolas and Jose twins 4/11/1642, Teresa again 6/1/43, Jacinto 3/31/1645, Nicolas 8/24/1646 and Luisa 2/28/1648 all born in Aguascalientes. The info seems to fit. What is your source?
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel M�ndez del Camino>>
To: Patty Hoyos>>
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] María Ruiz de Esparza

Hi Miggy, I have Jacinto's María married to Nicolás de la Torre y Espitia but she married 5 Jan 1649. Do you a source as to the María that I was looking for? Or was she married twice?

> From: miggychino@msn.com>>
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org>>
> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:29:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] María Ruiz de Esparza
>
> Maria is the daughter of JACINTO Ruiz de Esparza AND JUANA lOPEZ DE ELIZALDE Original Message ----- Jacinto de son of Lope mother Francisca Gabay
> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com>>>
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org>>>
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:15 AM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] María Ruiz de Esparza
>
>
> I am trying to figuer out who this María was
>
> María Ruiz de Esparza
> Nicolás González
> 22 Dec 1659 (se velaron 27 Nov 1660).in Aguas.
>
>
> The time frame makes her a grandaughter of Lope I Ruiz de Esparza. There are a handful of María Esparza during the early Aguas period, does anyone know any info on this couple? It could be andrés' daughter but there isnt any proof. I need to look into it more. any help? -Daniel

les comparto lo que he encontrado:

Jose Ramon Arellano Jaimes casado con Luisa Ruiz de Esparza
hijo de Jose Vicente Arellanos Esparza (crist 6 apr 1761) casado con (10 jun 1804) Maria Teresa Xaimes Carrillo (gracias por éste Gloria)
Jose Vicente hijo de Jose Antonio Arellanos Galindo y Maria Magdalena Esparza (de ella no tengo padres)
de Jose antonio Arellanos Galindo hijo de Mathias Arellanos y Maria Marcela Galindo Garcia ( no llegué más lejos)tienen una hija Maria tomasa nacida en 20 dec 1739 per que rollo con eso de bautizos de castas, españoles etc.. la estoy buscando para ver abuelos
de Maria Teresa Xaimes Carrillo hija de Augustin Xaimes y Maria Florencia de los Dolores Carrillo de éste matrimonio tengo 4 hijos de donde podría sacar abuelos pero veo olos libros y en 1777 y no los encuentro.. Eusebio Jose Vicente Xaimes 16 nov 1781, Balbina Xaimes 29 apr 1777 Jose Maria Aniceto Xaimes 20 apr 1784

Ahora del Lado de Luisa Ruiz de Esparza les mando mi paf pues está largo y llega hasta Diego Romo de Vivar, Ximenes de Castro y Velasco,Maria Gertrudis Añeros y Nuñes?, Reyes y Angeles, Gomez -Rendon,Viezma y Rosales, Masias Valñades Retamosa, Carrillo de Sandi, entre otros, saludos Leticia Reynoso

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