It seems like the images of the books you are looking for have not been uploaded yet. You should check every now and then and hopefully sooner than later they will be available. Besides that, you can go to a Family History Center an request the microfilm. You may find more information at familysearch.org
Since my ancestor Cristóbal Pérez López was married 19 December 1577 he
couldn't have been born after 12 Oct 1586. Therefore, the marriage you are
looking for is for a couple that aren't the parents of Cristóbal Pérez
López. These are common last names and documents from that era in Spain are
extremely hard to find so it isn't very likely you will be getting any
farther on that line unless you go to Spain to look up the documents in
person as others have done for other families. You energy is better spent
researching other ancestors until you are old enough to go there yourself.
I am so confused now so the record that I'm talking of cristobal my ancestor parents is really not his parents .so now there is no way of me finding out more about cristobals parents just that they were from spain and of course their names.
1. Cristóbal Pérez López is my ancestor. Villalobos was the maternal
surname of my grandfather.
2. Since Cristóbal Pérez López was married in 1577 he would have been born
before 1562 therefore his parents should have married before that date.
3. The record you are looking for is after the date that Cristóbal Pérez
López was born and even married therefore that is a different couple with
the same names as the parents of Cristóbal Pérez López.
4. Just because there is a couple with the same name as the parents in a
baptism or marriage it doesn't mean they are definitely the same people.
There are coincidences such as in this case, but this doesn't fall within
the chronological dates needed for everything to match. This is important
and unless there is another record such as a dispensa explaining they had
an illicit affair such as the González Bermejo dispensa you shouldn't
assume they are the same couple especially when the dates are so far off.
Armando
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM, wrote:
> Armando,
>
>
> I am so confused now so the record that I'm talking of cristobal my
> ancestor parents is really not his parents .so now there is no way of me
> finding out more about cristobals parents just that they were from spain
> and of course their names. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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You are correct Armando. And it was for this reason that I made a big mistake in dismissing a possible couple when researching a branch in Zacatecas. it was not until I found a dispensa that stated that the parents were married many years after 5 of the children were born that I returned to the couple I had dismissed as a possibility.
RA Ricci
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 14, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Armando wrote:
> Abram,
>
> 1. Cristóbal Pérez López is my ancestor. Villalobos was the maternal
> surname of my grandfather.
>
> 2. Since Cristóbal Pérez López was married in 1577 he would have been born
> before 1562 therefore his parents should have married before that date.
>
> 3. The record you are looking for is after the date that Cristóbal Pérez
> López was born and even married therefore that is a different couple with
> the same names as the parents of Cristóbal Pérez López.
>
> 4. Just because there is a couple with the same name as the parents in a
> baptism or marriage it doesn't mean they are definitely the same people.
> There are coincidences such as in this case, but this doesn't fall within
> the chronological dates needed for everything to match. This is important
> and unless there is another record such as a dispensa explaining they had
> an illicit affair such as the González Bermejo dispensa you shouldn't
> assume they are the same couple especially when the dates are so far off.
>
> Armando
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM, wrote:
>
>> Armando,
>>
>>
>> I am so confused now so the record that I'm talking of cristobal my
>> ancestor parents is really not his parents .so now there is no way of me
>> finding out more about cristobals parents just that they were from spain
>> and of course their names. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>
>> To post, send email to:
>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
>>
>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>>
Well thanks alot Armando for making it clear to me and giving me the heads up that, that marriage record and those individuals were not Cristobals parents becuase right now i would've thought that they really were his parents.There is this website that i found about the Macias-Valadez family and other ancestors of mines extremely interesting.
Well, I am glad I cleared that up. I didn't want somebody posting incorrect
info about my ancestors.
Mines is incorrect English. Never use an s with mine unless you are talking
about mining for minerals. It's yours and mine, not yours and mines.
That website has incorrect info about my ancestors and distant relatives.
Be careful what you use from there. I have known about the site since
Miguel Beltran posted about it 27 August 2010 at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/18955 I have informed Miguel and
posted on NR about one of the errors found at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19386
One of the errors he has are that Pedro Macías Valadez, the husband of
Luisa de Villegas, was the son of Felipe Macías Valadez and María de Tavera
which is not possible that María de Tavera was the mother unless he was
born out of wedlock 18 years prior to the marriage of Felipe Macías Valadez
and María de Tavera which is very doubtful. http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/insurgencia.html#…
Another error is the following "*Don Nicolás Macias Valadez y su esposa
Doña Luisa de Villegas, padres de Doña Catharina Macias-Valadez y Villegas,
la esposa de Don Tomas de Villalobos*." The parents of Catarina Macías
Valadez, my ancestor, were *Pedro* Macías Valadez and Luisa de Villegas,
the exact same couple previously mentioned. http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/nobles.html#ref12
There is another error but I can't remember the details of it. Basically,
you need to triple check every source and look for original documents when
using info no matter where you get it from.
Armando
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:03 AM, wrote:
> Armando,
>
> Well thanks alot Armando for making it clear to me and giving me the heads
> up that, that marriage record and those individuals were not Cristobals
> parents becuase right now i would've thought that they really were his
> parents.There is this website that i found about the Macias-Valadez family
> and other ancestors of mines extremely interesting.
>
> http://www.**historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaci**ondediaz.com/macias.html
>
> Abram
>
Can someone please give me
It seems like the images of the books you are looking for have not been uploaded yet. You should check every now and then and hopefully sooner than later they will be available. Besides that, you can go to a Family History Center an request the microfilm. You may find more information at familysearch.org
Victoriano Navarro
Can someone please give me the link to the marriage records in V
Abram,
Since my ancestor Cristóbal Pérez López was married 19 December 1577 he
couldn't have been born after 12 Oct 1586. Therefore, the marriage you are
looking for is for a couple that aren't the parents of Cristóbal Pérez
López. These are common last names and documents from that era in Spain are
extremely hard to find so it isn't very likely you will be getting any
farther on that line unless you go to Spain to look up the documents in
person as others have done for other families. You energy is better spent
researching other ancestors until you are old enough to go there yourself.
Armando
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM, wrote:
> I can't find the city of Valladold Spain in Family Search.com
>
> this is the marriage record im looking for
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/**MM9.1.1/F5Q2-KLH
>
parents of cristobal perez lopez
Armando,
I am so confused now so the record that I'm talking of cristobal my ancestor parents is really not his parents .so now there is no way of me finding out more about cristobals parents just that they were from spain and of course their names.
parents of cristobal perez lopez
Abram,
1. Cristóbal Pérez López is my ancestor. Villalobos was the maternal
surname of my grandfather.
2. Since Cristóbal Pérez López was married in 1577 he would have been born
before 1562 therefore his parents should have married before that date.
3. The record you are looking for is after the date that Cristóbal Pérez
López was born and even married therefore that is a different couple with
the same names as the parents of Cristóbal Pérez López.
4. Just because there is a couple with the same name as the parents in a
baptism or marriage it doesn't mean they are definitely the same people.
There are coincidences such as in this case, but this doesn't fall within
the chronological dates needed for everything to match. This is important
and unless there is another record such as a dispensa explaining they had
an illicit affair such as the González Bermejo dispensa you shouldn't
assume they are the same couple especially when the dates are so far off.
Armando
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM, wrote:
> Armando,
>
>
> I am so confused now so the record that I'm talking of cristobal my
> ancestor parents is really not his parents .so now there is no way of me
> finding out more about cristobals parents just that they were from spain
> and of course their names. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>
> To post, send email to:
> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
>
> To change your subscription, log on to:
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
parents of cristobal perez lopez
You are correct Armando. And it was for this reason that I made a big mistake in dismissing a possible couple when researching a branch in Zacatecas. it was not until I found a dispensa that stated that the parents were married many years after 5 of the children were born that I returned to the couple I had dismissed as a possibility.
RA Ricci
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 14, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Armando wrote:
> Abram,
>
> 1. Cristóbal Pérez López is my ancestor. Villalobos was the maternal
> surname of my grandfather.
>
> 2. Since Cristóbal Pérez López was married in 1577 he would have been born
> before 1562 therefore his parents should have married before that date.
>
> 3. The record you are looking for is after the date that Cristóbal Pérez
> López was born and even married therefore that is a different couple with
> the same names as the parents of Cristóbal Pérez López.
>
> 4. Just because there is a couple with the same name as the parents in a
> baptism or marriage it doesn't mean they are definitely the same people.
> There are coincidences such as in this case, but this doesn't fall within
> the chronological dates needed for everything to match. This is important
> and unless there is another record such as a dispensa explaining they had
> an illicit affair such as the González Bermejo dispensa you shouldn't
> assume they are the same couple especially when the dates are so far off.
>
> Armando
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM, wrote:
>
>> Armando,
>>
>>
>> I am so confused now so the record that I'm talking of cristobal my
>> ancestor parents is really not his parents .so now there is no way of me
>> finding out more about cristobals parents just that they were from spain
>> and of course their names. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>
>> To post, send email to:
>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
>>
>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>>
parents of cristobal perez lopez
Armando,
Well thanks alot Armando for making it clear to me and giving me the heads up that, that marriage record and those individuals were not Cristobals parents becuase right now i would've thought that they really were his parents.There is this website that i found about the Macias-Valadez family and other ancestors of mines extremely interesting.
http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/macias.html
Abram
parents of cristobal perez lopez
Abram,
Well, I am glad I cleared that up. I didn't want somebody posting incorrect
info about my ancestors.
Mines is incorrect English. Never use an s with mine unless you are talking
about mining for minerals. It's yours and mine, not yours and mines.
That website has incorrect info about my ancestors and distant relatives.
Be careful what you use from there. I have known about the site since
Miguel Beltran posted about it 27 August 2010 at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/18955 I have informed Miguel and
posted on NR about one of the errors found at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19386
One of the errors he has are that Pedro Macías Valadez, the husband of
Luisa de Villegas, was the son of Felipe Macías Valadez and María de Tavera
which is not possible that María de Tavera was the mother unless he was
born out of wedlock 18 years prior to the marriage of Felipe Macías Valadez
and María de Tavera which is very doubtful.
http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/insurgencia.html#…
Another error is the following "*Don Nicolás Macias Valadez y su esposa
Doña Luisa de Villegas, padres de Doña Catharina Macias-Valadez y Villegas,
la esposa de Don Tomas de Villalobos*." The parents of Catarina Macías
Valadez, my ancestor, were *Pedro* Macías Valadez and Luisa de Villegas,
the exact same couple previously mentioned.
http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/nobles.html#ref12
There is another error but I can't remember the details of it. Basically,
you need to triple check every source and look for original documents when
using info no matter where you get it from.
Armando
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:03 AM, wrote:
> Armando,
>
> Well thanks alot Armando for making it clear to me and giving me the heads
> up that, that marriage record and those individuals were not Cristobals
> parents becuase right now i would've thought that they really were his
> parents.There is this website that i found about the Macias-Valadez family
> and other ancestors of mines extremely interesting.
>
> http://www.**historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaci**ondediaz.com/macias.html
>
> Abram
>