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Hello all --
In case there's anyone with Pineda/Pinedo roots in the Zacatecas area, my father recently received his yDNA results. They're posted on the Mexico DNA site. According to Gary Felix, our line is Q-M242. However, he seems to think that it's not Native American, but rather from Central Asia/Middle East. I'm wandering if we need to do the 25 or 37 marker test -- does anyone have a view about any of this.
Here's the entry for our results -- it's the information I've learned to date, along with the close matches that Gary Felix found:
Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas > Mesquital del Oro, Zacatecas > Tlaltenango, Zacatecas > Laredo, Texas. Haplogroup Q. Found in the Middle East and Central Asia. See these 10 YDNA matches to DYS19=15 DYS389I=12 (1 step off from 13) DYS389II=27 (1 step off from 28) DYS390=24 DYS391=10 DYS392=14 DYS393=13 DYS385=14-16 and DYS439=11 to 2 of 236 Mendoza, Argentina [European], 2 of 357 Mexico City, Mexico [Mestizo], 2 of 70 Assiut, Egypt [Egyptian], 1 of 122 Noord-Brabant, Netherlands [Dutch], 1 of 163 Israel & Palestinian Authority Area [Arab], 1 of 106 Saudi Arabia [Saudi] and 1 of 533 Central Portugal, Portugal [Portuguese] in this - YHRD database search. Oldest Ydna ancestor - Gregorio Pinedo, son of Bartolo Pinedo and Maria Gonzalez, married in 1834 in Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas>Pedro Pinedo b. circa 1851>Nicanor Pinedo b. circa 1882>Jesus Maria Pineda b. 1930.
If anyone else knows of any Pinedas or Pinedos who've done the test, or who otherwise also has a similar Q-M242 line, please let me know. Thanks!
Chris Pineda
Pineda/o yDNA Results -
Watching National Geographic Human Family Tree DVD is a fascinating study of how humans populated the earth. I am not sure about the recent origins of the haplogroup Q but all Native Americans originated in the Central Asia/Middle east around 50,000 years ago, according to the geneticists on that program. They then migrated east and north, entering North America about 20,000 or 15,000 years ago.
So, yeah, Q does originally come from the Middle East. But so do ALL Native Americans, if you go back far enough.
The question is, from what direction and when do your Q ancestors make their way to Mexico?
All of this is quite fascinating to me, and if some one is showing the Q yDNA to come from the Middle East to Europe or Africa, then to the Americas, that would indeed be fascinating, showing once again how closely related we are to one another.
Pineda/o yDNA Results - Q-M242
I suggest getting a deepclade test and also joining the Q project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/ydna_Q/default.aspx?section=ycolori…
The National Geographic Geno 2.0 project should find more people within the
Q haplogroup and find more details about the subclades in it. People of the
same subclade are more closely related to you with the common ancestor
having lived 16,000 or 18,000 years ago as opposed to 24,000 years ago for
the haplogroup.
Armando
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Chris Pineda wrote:
> Hello all --
>
> In case there's anyone with Pineda/Pinedo roots in the Zacatecas area, my
> father recently received his yDNA results. They're posted on the Mexico
> DNA site. According to Gary Felix, our line is Q-M242. However, he seems
> to think that it's not Native American, but rather from Central Asia/Middle
> East. I'm wandering if we need to do the 25 or 37 marker test -- does
> anyone have a view about any of this.
>
> Here's the entry for our results -- it's the information I've learned to
> date, along with the close matches that Gary Felix found:
>
> Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas > Mesquital del Oro, Zacatecas > Tlaltenango,
> Zacatecas > Laredo, Texas. Haplogroup Q. Found in the Middle East and
> Central Asia. See these 10 YDNA matches to DYS19=15 DYS389I=12 (1 step off
> from 13) DYS389II=27 (1 step off from 28) DYS390=24 DYS391=10 DYS392=14
> DYS393=13 DYS385=14-16 and DYS439=11 to 2 of 236 Mendoza, Argentina
> [European], 2 of 357 Mexico City, Mexico [Mestizo], 2 of 70 Assiut, Egypt
> [Egyptian], 1 of 122 Noord-Brabant, Netherlands [Dutch], 1 of 163 Israel &
> Palestinian Authority Area [Arab], 1 of 106 Saudi Arabia [Saudi] and 1 of
> 533 Central Portugal, Portugal [Portuguese] in this - YHRD database search.
> Oldest Ydna ancestor - Gregorio Pinedo, son of Bartolo Pinedo and Maria
> Gonzalez, married in 1834 in Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas>Pedro Pinedo b.
> circa 1851>Nicanor Pinedo b. circa 1882>Jesus Maria Pineda b. 1930.
>
> If anyone else knows of any Pinedas or Pinedos who've done the test, or
> who otherwise also has a similar Q-M242 line, please let me know. Thanks!
>
> Chris Pineda