My two cents, Xbtobal in my family turned out to be Cristobal.

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> 1. Miramontes Connection between Lorenzo and Brigida
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> 2. Lorenzo Miramontes descendant Tree (josecarlos1944@hotmail.com)
> 3. updated my Family Tree (josecarlos1944@hotmail.com)
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> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:44:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miramontes Connection between Lorenzo and
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> her marriage record with "X Miramontes" 02 Jul 1704 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roma records her parents The record image :
> http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30836442/person/26063914583/mediax/8c7ce…
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> the IGI
> Name X. De Miramontes Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Brigida De Miramontes Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date 02 Jul 1704 Event Place Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,Zacatecas,Mexico Father's Name Mother's Name Spouse's Father's Name Lorenzo De Miramontes Spouse's Mother's Name Ana De Santiago Race Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Race Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name Indexing Project (Batch) Number M60713-9 System Origin Mexico-ODM GS Film number 443968
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> The "X Miramontes" is probably a gross error; I'm 90% sure it is Xptobal Gonzales because of his daughter Maria's baptism in 02 Oct 1707 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roma to which Evie refers to Maria Gonzales's marriage 23 Jan 1735 to Rafael Pinto De Avila. see both IGIs below
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> spouse: Xpttobal Gonsales
> child: Maria Gonsales Miramonttes
> Name Maria Gonsales Miramonttes
> Gender Female
> Christening Date 02 Oct 1707
> Christening Place TLALTENANGO DE SANCHEZ ROMAN,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
> Birth Date
> Birthplace
> Death Date
> Name Note
> Race
> Father's Name Xpttobal Gonsales
> Father's Birthplace
> Father's Age
> Mother's Name Brigida De Miramonttes
> Mother's Birthplace
> Mother's Age
> Paternal Grandfather's Name
> Paternal Grandmother's Name
> Maternal Grandfather's Name
> Maternal Grandmother's Name
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60089-3
> System Origin Mexico-ODM
> GS Film number 443801
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> Name Rafael Pinto De Abila
> Birth Date
> Birthplace
> Age
> Spouse's Name Maria Getrudis Gonsales
> Spouse's Birth Date
> Spouse's Birthplace
> Spouse's Age
> Event Date 23 Jan 1735
> Event Place Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,Zacatecas,Mexico
> Father's Name Marcos Pinto De Abila
> Mother's Name Rosa Maria De Placensia
> Spouse's Father's Name Xpstoval Gonsales
> Spouse's Mother's Name Brigida De Miramontes
> Race
> Marital Status
> Previous Wife's Name
> Spouse's Race
> Spouse's Marital Status
> Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number M60713-9
> System Origin Mexico-ODM
> GS Film number 443968
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> Jose Carlos de Leon
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> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:46:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lorenzo Miramontes descendant Tree
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> my connection to him is that his great granddaughter Petra Regalada Raigoza married my 5th great granduncle Juan Ydelfonso Mayorga in 19 Feb 1753 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico.
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> My primo Joseph Puentes reccomends that I should share with Nuestros Ranchos my Lorenzo Miramontes data, this is what I have found so far:
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> 1 Lorenzo de Miramontes b: 26 JUL 1638
> + Maria Ana Diaz de Santiago b: MAR 1649
> 2 Margarita Miramontes b: SEP 1670
> 2 Miguel Miramontes b: FEB 1696
> 2 Getrudis Miramontes b: JUN 1692
> 2 Brigida de Miramontes b: ABT 1675
> + Francisco de Raigoza b: ABT 1675 d: BEF 1704
> 3 Jose Cayetano Raigoza b: JAN 1703
> + Catarina Sandoval b: ABT 1703
> 4 Petra Regalada Raigoza b: ABT 1733
> + Juan Ydelfonso Mayorga b: MAY 1720
> 5 Francisca Romana Mayorga b: MAR 1757
> 5 Maria De Jesus Mayorga b: MAY 1769
> 5 Jose Maria Mayorga b: JUL 1763
> 5 Antonia Lugarda Mayorga b: APR 1755
> 5 Juana De Dios Mayorga b: MAR 1761
> 5 Maria Rosalia Mayorga b: JAN 1754
> 5 Jose Antonio Mayorga b: MAR 1766
> + X Miramontes b: ABT 1675
> 2 Ysidro Miramontes b: ABT 1689
> + Bernarda De Avila b: ABT 1689
> 3 Maria Antonia Miramontes b: ABT 1733
> + Hipolito Macias Balades b: ABT 1733
> 3 Ysidro Miramontes Jr b: APR 1721
> + Sebastiana Faustina De Campos b: ABT 1726
> 3 Ana Manuela Miramontes b: JUL 171
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> Jose Carlos de Leon
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> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:56:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] updated my Family Tree
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> because my Family Tree is too large (over 16,000 individuals) I cannot load it here at Nuestros Ranchos.
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> Instead I have it on RootaWen.com. This is a FREE site for everyone. The name of my tree there is " jalisco_families "
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> and the website for it is:
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> http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jalisco_fa…
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> Josrph de Leon
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