Angelina, Mr. Cuellar,

Thank you for the information regarding my relatives. I was not aware of familysearch.org but now I doubt anyone will ever be able to get me off of it. I didn't think I'd ever be able to locate my relatives from Sonora ever and I've now gone back three generations. Next I'm going to trace my Pedroza line.

Paige

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> Paige,
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> First of all, welcome to the group.
> I did a basic search on familysearch.org and found the marriage information for Onofre Villalobos & Juana Torres .... here is the link https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JHLX-F7H
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> Groom: Onofre Villalobos
> Bride: Juana Torres
> marriage dated 11 feb 1885
> groom?s parents: Zenon Villalobos & Librada Medina
> bride?s parents: Narciso Torres & Filomena Hernandez
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> I don?t know if you have any experience using FamilySearch.org ... it is really a very good source of information. I will try to find the original document on-line for the record on the link I?m sending you.
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> -Angelina-
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> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 20:04:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: IChristopher
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New member introduction (Paige
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> Welcome to the group Paige.? I recognized the name Zenon Villalobos because I came across it once
> before when I was looking for my Villalobos ancestors, so, I did a quick search
> and although I don?t descend from him, I do directly descend from his grandparents
> which are my sixth great grandparents -Don Jos? Ygnacio de Villalobos and Do?a
> Mar?a Antonia Josefa Ponce. It also seems like you might not be using Family
> Search. You?ll be able to get much farther in your genealogical search using https://familysearch.org/?
> Pablo Villalobos like you said was born 22 Mar, 1891 in
> Rancho del Refugio de Parga, Aguascalientes. He is the son of Jose Onofre Villalobos
> and Juana Torres. Pablo Villalobos paternal grandparents are listed as Zenon
> Villalobos and Librada Medina. His maternal Grandparents are listed as Narciso
> Torres and Filomena Hernandez. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-88550-28?cc=1502404&…
> Jose Onofre Villalobos, was born 12 Jun 1861 in Rancho de
> los Alonzos, Aguascalientes. Jose Onofre Villalobos is the son of Zenon
> Villalobos and Librada Medina. His paternal grandparents are Jose Mariano (Aniceto)
> Villalobos and Ysabel Fonseca. His maternal grandparents are Nabor Medina and
> Merced Pedroza. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11811-103720-45?cc=1502404…
> Zenon Villalobos was born Jun 1820, he is the son of Jose
> Mariano (Aniceto) Villalobos and Ysabel Fonseca. His paternal grandparents are
> listed as Ygnacio de Villalobos and (Mar?a) Antonia Ponse. His maternal
> grandparents are listed as Jose (Ygnacio) Fonseca and Maria (Ana Gertrudis)
> Guebara. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11849-164245-48?cc=1502404…
> Jose Mariano Aniceto Villalobos was born 17 Apr, 1795 in
> Aguascalientes. His baptism says Jose Mariano Aniceto, espl, ? hijo de Don
> Ygnacio de Villalobos and Do?a Mar?a Antonia Ponce. Here is the link to his
> baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11044-118500-47?cc=1502404…
> Mariano married Ysabel Fonseca 31 Aug, 1814 in Aguascalientes.
> On the marriage record it lists him as Mariano Villalobos, Espa?ol, originario
> y vecino de esta villa (Aguascalientes), hijo legitimo de Ygnacio Villalobos,
> difunto y Mar?a Antonia Ponce: con Ysabel Fonseca, Espa?ola, orignario de
> Lagos,? hija legitima de Ygnacio Fonseca y Ana Gertrudis de Guebara. Here is
> the link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11566-7184-6?cc=1502404&wc…
> Don Ygnacio de Villalobos and Do?a Mar?a Antonia Ponce were
> married 15 Sep 1781 in Aguascalientes. His marriage record lists him as Don
> Jose Ygnacio de Villalobos, Espa?ol? hijo de Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos y
> Do?a Antonia Martinez de Sotomayor viudo de Maria de (?) Mu?os con Do?a Mar?a
> Antonia Ponce, Espa?ola, originaria y vecina de la (?) ? hija legitima de Don
> Juan Antonio Ponce y Do?a Mar?a Gertrudis de Torres. Here is the link to their
> marriage: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11782-163144-72?cc=1502404…
> I?m not sure who the parents of Don Juan Antonio Ponce y Do?a
> Mar?a Gertrudis de Torres are. I can?t find a marriage with those names. There
> is a marriage in the same time frame for a Juan Antonio de Dios Rodr?guez Ponce
> and a Mar?a Gertrudis de la Torre, but I?m not sure it?s the same couple.
> Maybe, someone out there could confirm.
> Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos?s wife Do?a Antonia Martinez
> de Sotomayor died Apr 1790. Her death record lists her as Do?a Antonia Martinez
> de Sotomayor, Espa?ola, de esta Villa, hija legitima de Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor
> y Do?a Graviela Romo, defuntos, viuda de Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos. I can?t
> find the parents of Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor or Do?a Graviela Romo. I
> think her name is probably Gabriela Romo, but I still can?t find the parents
> for her or Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor. Maybe someone else in the forum
> might know. Here is the link to her death record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11575-76925-85?cc=1502404&…
> Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos died Aug 1783. His death
> certificate lists him as hijo legitimo de Don Isidro de Villalobos y de Do?a
> Gertrudis Gonz?lez de Ruvalcaba.? Here is
> the link to the death record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11575-76103-95?cc=1502404&…
> Do?a Gertrudis Gonz?lez de Ruvalcaba is the son of Jos?
> Gonz?lez de Ruvalcaba and Petra D?az Monta?ez. Don Isidro de
> Villalobos born Jan 1692 is the son of Isidro de Villalobos and Francisca
> Gertrudis de Escoto y Tovar.
> Isidro de Villalobos is the son of Francisco de Villalobos
> and Mar?a
> V?zquez de Retamosa. Francisco de Villalobos and Mar?a V?zquez de Retamosa were married 22
> May, 1640. Francisco de Villalobos is listed as hijo legitimo de Crist?bal de
> Villalobos y Mar?a P?rez de Nava. Mar?a V?zquez de Retamosa is
> listed as hija de Gaspar Mac?as Valadez y Mariana de Torres. Here is the link to
> their marriage https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19053-2891-27?cc=1874591&wc=…
> That?s all I know. There are probably others in the group with
> more information. Good luck with your search.
> Christopher de Cuellar
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> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:22:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: jose973@q.com
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Census Records
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> Does anyone have suggestions for finding census records of Indios living on the Hacienda de Garabato and Hacienda de Parades in Aguascalientes in the 1700s? Do such records exist?
>
> Jose Aguayo Ortega
> joseaguayo601@gmail.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:55:00 -0800
> From: Alicia Carrillo
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Census Records
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> Jose,
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> According to Lyman Platt's book, census records for Latin America, he shows
> that there are several rolls of film for Aguascalientes' census records.
> This appears to imply that the Census records may be mixed in with the
> parish Baptismal records, however this doesn't define the parishes in
> Aguascalientes where the records may be found, only the years.
>
> - Year 1649 - Reference is Archivo del Parral
> - Year 1770 - Bpt Manuscript 1770
> - Year 1792 - AGN PAD 5:1520345:2
> - Year 1760 - ?
> - Year 1770 - BPT Manuscript 45
> - Year 1780 - BPT Manuscript 45
> - Year 1803 - TRI 43
>
> Alicia,
>
> San Jose, Ca
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, wrote:
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>> Does anyone have suggestions for finding census records of Indios living
>> on the Hacienda de Garabato and Hacienda de Parades in Aguascalientes in
>> the 1700s? Do such records exist?
>>
>> Jose Aguayo Ortega
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