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Hola Members y Primos , I am a bit lost. I Have a
Jose Munoz married to Margarita Ramirez feb.03 1823,San Juan de los lagos
Matrimonios de San Juan de los Lagos -Year 1797-1823,Image # 604.
Jose Munoz-Parents -Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado.
I cannot find Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtados acta de Matrimonio de San Miguel el Alto of Jan. 09,1786 . I am trying to find out there parents. I have a (Ygnacio Munoz) An Antonio Munoz de Nava and Gertrudis Ramirez de Hermosillo or(same person) Paula Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo. (Ygnacia Hurtado ) I have Cayetano Hurtado and Maria Munoz.
Now I also have for Ygnacia Hurtado Parents-Julio Cayetano Hurtado and Maria de los Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez. Don't know which any of this info is correct Margarita Ramirez (the wife of Jose Munoz ) Parents -Quirono or Quilino Ramirez and Maria Ynes Pedroza.-These two individuals came out in Guadalajara Dispensas-Film # 168095 Image # 1682,but film is not there to investigate.I hope I have made myself understand able cause I barely understand .Ronnie
Jose Munoz y Margarita Ramirez
Ronnie,
Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado were married in San Juan de Los Lagos
even though some people have it as San Miguel el Alto, which was at one
time a part of San Juan de Los Lagos.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18563-49215-15
The reason you are confused about Gertrudis Ramirez de Hermosillo and Paula
Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo is because her ancestors would
interchangeably use the compound surnames Ramírez de Hermosillo and García
de Hermosillo. They are descendants of Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y
Hermosillo the son of Juan González de Hermosillo and María Muñoz.
According to licencia de pase a Indias for Juan González de Hermosillo his
father was Gonzalo García de Hermosillo. We aren't sure which ancestor had
the Ramírez surname but Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y Hermosillo was
the first documented person to use the Ramírez surname.
The parents of Ignacia Hurtado were Julio Cayetano Hurtado and Maria de los
Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez
http://gw.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=maria+ignacia+teodosia;n=hurta…
.
The page numbers were changed for some of the dispensas. The dispensa for
Quirino or Quilino Ramirez and Maria Ynes Pedroza.is now found on page 515.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-43508-11
Saludos,
Armando
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Ronald Reynoso wrote:
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> Hola Members y Primos , I am a bit lost. I Have a
> Jose Munoz married to Margarita Ramirez feb.03 1823,San Juan de los lagos
> Matrimonios de San Juan de los Lagos -Year 1797-1823,Image # 604.
> Jose Munoz-Parents -Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado.
> I cannot find Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtados acta de Matrimonio de
> San Miguel el Alto of Jan. 09,1786 . I am trying to find out there
> parents. I have a (Ygnacio Munoz) An Antonio Munoz de Nava and Gertrudis
> Ramirez de Hermosillo or(same person) Paula Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo.
> (Ygnacia Hurtado ) I have Cayetano Hurtado and Maria Munoz.
> Now I also have for Ygnacia Hurtado Parents-Julio Cayetano Hurtado and
> Maria de los Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez. Don't know which any of this
> info is correct Margarita Ramirez (the wife of Jose Munoz ) Parents
> -Quirono or Quilino Ramirez and Maria Ynes Pedroza.-These two individuals
> came out in Guadalajara Dispensas-Film # 168095 Image # 1682,but film is
> not there to investigate.I hope I have made myself understand able cause I
> barely understand .Ronnie
>
Jose Munoz y Margarita Ramirez
Thank you
Ronnie
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:44:33 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Munoz y Margarita Ramirez
>
> Ronnie,
>
> Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado were married in San Juan de Los Lagos
> even though some people have it as San Miguel el Alto, which was at one
> time a part of San Juan de Los Lagos.
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18563-49215-15
>
> The reason you are confused about Gertrudis Ramirez de Hermosillo and Paula
> Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo is because her ancestors would
> interchangeably use the compound surnames Ramírez de Hermosillo and García
> de Hermosillo. They are descendants of Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y
> Hermosillo the son of Juan González de Hermosillo and María Muñoz.
> According to licencia de pase a Indias for Juan González de Hermosillo his
> father was Gonzalo García de Hermosillo. We aren't sure which ancestor had
> the Ramírez surname but Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y Hermosillo was
> the first documented person to use the Ramírez surname.
>
> The parents of Ignacia Hurtado were Julio Cayetano Hurtado and Maria de los
> Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez
>
> http://gw.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=maria+ignacia+teodosia;n=hurta…
> .
>
> The page numbers were changed for some of the dispensas. The dispensa for
> Quirino or Quilino Ramirez and Maria Ynes Pedroza.is now found on page 515.
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-43508-11
>
> Saludos,
> Armando
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> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Ronald Reynoso wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > Hola Members y Primos , I am a bit lost. I Have a
> > Jose Munoz married to Margarita Ramirez feb.03 1823,San Juan de los lagos
> > Matrimonios de San Juan de los Lagos -Year 1797-1823,Image # 604.
> > Jose Munoz-Parents -Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado.
> > I cannot find Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtados acta de Matrimonio de
> > San Miguel el Alto of Jan. 09,1786 . I am trying to find out there
> > parents. I have a (Ygnacio Munoz) An Antonio Munoz de Nava and Gertrudis
> > Ramirez de Hermosillo or(same person) Paula Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo.
> > (Ygnacia Hurtado ) I have Cayetano Hurtado and Maria Munoz.
> > Now I also have for Ygnacia Hurtado Parents-Julio Cayetano Hurtado and
> > Maria de los Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez. Don't know which any of this
> > info is correct Margarita Ramirez (the wife of Jose Munoz ) Parents
> > -Quirono or Quilino Ramirez and Maria Ynes Pedroza.-These two individuals
> > came out in Guadalajara Dispensas-Film # 168095 Image # 1682,but film is
> > not there to investigate.I hope I have made myself understand able cause I
> > barely understand .Ronnie
> >
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Jose Munoz y Margarita Ramirez
Edgar Olguin Diaz
buenas tardes
el cuadro genealogico de la pareja de jose quilino ramirez y maria ignes pedrosa
es el siguiente:
PRETENSO:
jose quilino ramirez muñoz(1)
>
jose isidro ramirez muñoz(2) y maria ignacia muñoz de nava(2)
>
bartolome ramirez marques(3) y paula muños(3)
manuel muñoz de nava (3) y maria de san juan martin padilla (3)
>
agustin ramires(4) y josefa marques martin del campo(4)
esteban martin(4) y juana padilla gutierrez(4)
>
diego marquez(5) y maria de la cruz martin del campo(5)
christobal padilla (5) luiza gutierrez(5)
PRETENSA:
maria ygnes pedrosa(1)
>
felipe de pedrosa (2) y maria de san juan marques(2)
>
blas marquez (3) y maria antonia albares(3)
>
jose marquez(4) y catarina padilla(4)
>
diego marquez(5) y maria de la cruz martin del campo(5)
christobal padilla(5) y luiza gutierrez(5)
excelenete dia a todos