Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
I'm looking for the parents of Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala and Ana Maria
Romero. I cant find the marriage. Does anyone in the Nuestros Ranchos Forum
have information on them. Theyre on the wikitree but it doesn't list the
parents.
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mac%C3%ADas-353
Danny C. Alonso
Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala / Ana Maria Romero
Hi Danny,
Yeah, we do have a lot of the same ancestors. I think your Alonso's intermarried with my Cuellar's repeatedly. On my tree I know of at least 6 or 7 times that Cuellar's married Alonso's, so, we will probably have many more relatives in common.
Chris
Anna de Ayala Cortes
Hi Danny,
My records agree with what Chris posted:
Anna de Ayala Cortes was daughter of Alferez Real Andres de Ayala and Beatriz Ortiz (aka Beatriz Cortes aka Beatriz Peguero), b. 18 Aug 1653, Ags:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-TWX?wc=M99K-S5T%3An92…
Her father, Andres de Ayala, was son of Juan Montoro Guzman “El Mozo” and Catalina de Ayala; Juan Montoro Guzman was son of Juan Montoro “El Viejo” (founder of Aguascalientes) and Maria Rodriguez, both from Jerez de la Frontera, Cadiz, Spain. I don’t have Catalina de Ayala’s ancestry. Andres and his sister Catalina used their mother’s surname, while their siblings used “Montoro” or “Rodriguez.” Most of their records have been indexed, so you should be able to find them at familysearch.
I have Andres de Ayala as a testigo on some documents, so we have his approximate birth year (1602-1604):
29 Jul 1654, ordenes for Antonio Sotelo, gives age as 51 (1603). Signed his name “Andres de Ayala.”
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DV1C-J?wc=3JWL-YWG%3A17193…
29 Nov 1659, ordenes for Juan Lopez de Lizaldi; age 55 (1604) Names him Alferez Mayor y Teniente de ? I can’t make out the abbreviation. Signed his name “Andres de Aiala.”
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DJRT-L?i=622&wc=3JW2-K68%3…
25 Nov 1668, ordenes for Melchor Marin de Peñalosa; age age 66 (1602) “Andres de Aiala.”
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DNGR-J?wc=3JW2-W3D%3A17193…
By the way, the aspirants on that roll are from Aguascalientes, so you’ll find members of families from your other Ags lines. And check out ALL of the testigos: Andres Ayala, Juan de Huerta, Lucas Orosco de Santa Cruz, and others - they give their approximate ages.
You’ll find more documents on Andres Ayala and Nicolas Ramirez Valades at the Aguascalientes Acervos Historicos website, with notary records regarding testaments, land sales, loans, etc. You likely know about that site, but if you don’t, let us know.
By the way, Danny, I'm assuming you're "Alonso de los Hinojos" or "Ynojos"? If so, I do a lot of deep research through the San Luis Potosi archives, and I see a lot of "Alonso de los Ynojos." Does your line come from SLP? I'll start flagging what I find.
Saludos!
Su primo,
Manny Diez Hermosillo
Anna de Ayala Cortes
Manny,
thank you very much for this information. this is great. Im glad I know for sure now about Anna de Ayala Cortes. and, yes my Alonso's were originally Alonso de los Hinojos, i didnt know that until just a few months ago. Here's my Alonso line
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Alonso-154
Danny C. Alonso
Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala / Ana Maria Romero
Thank you Christopher, this was great info. We have so many of the same
ancestors
Danny C. Alonso
Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala / Ana Maria Romero
Thank you Esther for the information. It was very helpful.
Danny C. Alonso
Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala / Ana Maria Romero
Hi Danny,
Rosalia's parents Lorenzo Tadeo Macías de Ayala and Anna María Romero Maturano are my 8th great grandparents. Based on their children's baptism's, Lorenzo Tadeo Macías de Ayala and Anna María Romero Maturano would've married sometime before 1737. I haven't been able to locate their marriage and I've spent quite sometime searching in multiple locations, including the most probable locations of Teocaltiche and Aguascalientes, and couldn't find it.
Back to the parents. Anna María Romero Maturano is the daughter of Juan Antonio Romero Maturano and María Íñiguez.
Anna María Romero Maturano also had a sibling named Joseph María Romero Maturano that married in Teocaltiche in 1734:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19052-56681-40?cc=1874591&wc…
Anna María Romero Maturano died in Aguascalientes on 29 Nov 1761:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11601-43336-81?cc=1502404&…
Lorenzo Tadeo Macías de Ayala was born Aug 1709 and is the son of Phelipe Macías de Ayala and María de Nájara:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13033-25901-4?cc=1502404&w…
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11082-70315-51?cc=1502404&…
Phelipe Macías de Ayala and María de Nájara were married 11 Apr 1699 in Aguascalientes. María de Nájara is the daughter of Gerónimo de Nájara and Nicolasa de Amaya. Phelipe Macías de Ayala is the son of Nicolás Ramírez Valadéz and Ana de Ayala:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30428-28?cc=1502404&…
María de Nájara was born and baptized Aug 1674:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12047-88987-79?cc=1502404&…
Phelipe Macías de Ayala was born and baptized Jun 1675:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12047-87826-81?cc=1502404&…
Nicolás Ramírez Valadéz and Ana de Ayala were married in Aguascalientes, 18 May 1672:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30232-70?cc=1502404&…
I'm not sure who the parents of Ana de Ayala are, but she also uses the name Ana de Ayala y Cortés, so, in all probability she's the daughter of Andrés de Ayala and Beatríz Cortés (aka Beatríz Rangel). That would also correspond to this baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-50594-96?cc=1502404&…
Nicolás Ramírez Valadez (aka Nicolás Macías Valadez) is probably the son of Nicolás Ramírez and María de Siordia, and that would correspond to this baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-52031-26?cc=1502404&…
Christopher de Cuellar
Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala / Ana Maria Romero
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenn…~
I am not sure I linked these names properly but check it out on
FamilySearch above link. If it doesn't work or if you already have these
names let me know.
Esther
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Danny Alonso wrote:
> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
>
> I'm looking for the parents of Lorenzo Tadeo Macias de Ayala and Ana Maria
> Romero. I cant find the marriage. Does anyone in the Nuestros Ranchos Forum
> have information on them. Theyre on the wikitree but it doesn't list the
> parents.
> http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mac%C3%ADas-353
>
> Danny C. Alonso