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Territorial Acquisitions

It still is.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, Californai

--- Arturo Ramos  wrote:

> Yes Angie, those maps are great.  Emilie, I think
> the reason why the 
> U.S. did not aquire all of Mexico was that the part
> they did not 
> acquire had too many Mexicans living in it.  In
> other words, the 
> xenophobia was greater than the greed.
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"
>  
> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, Angie,
> > 
> > You are a great researcher.  I have never seen
> those maps before.  
> Thanks much for the links to those maps.  It really
> helps me to 
> understand the scope of "Manifest Destiny" of the US
> Government.  I'm 
> surprised they didn't "acquire" all of Mexico.
> > 
> > Emilie Garcia
> > Port Orchard, WA ---
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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Territorial Acquisitions

Good links.  

Here's a morphing map from pbs.
http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/morphingmap.html

Are we done?  ;-)


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
wrote:
>
> Wow, Angie,
> 
> You are a great researcher.  I have never seen those maps before. 
Thanks much for the links to those maps.  It really helps me to
understand the scope of "Manifest Destiny" of the US Government.  I'm
surprised they didn't "acquire" all of Mexico.
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
>





Territorial Acquisitions

Yes Angie, those maps are great.  Emilie, I think the reason why the 
U.S. did not aquire all of Mexico was that the part they did not 
acquire had too many Mexicans living in it.  In other words, the 
xenophobia was greater than the greed.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
>
> Wow, Angie,
> 
> You are a great researcher.  I have never seen those maps before.  
Thanks much for the links to those maps.  It really helps me to 
understand the scope of "Manifest Destiny" of the US Government.  I'm 
surprised they didn't "acquire" all of Mexico.
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
>





Territorial Acquisitions

Wow, Angie,

 

You are a great researcher.  I have never seen those maps
before.  Thanks much for the links to those maps.  It really helps me
to understand the scope of "Manifest Destiny" of the US Government.  I'm
surprised they didn't "acquire" all of Mexico.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---

1785


here are a couple more pages. of the 1785
Census.



joseph



ps: Arturo if the format is not correct let me know ASAP



Attachment:
1785ColotlanCensus_P89-91.xls


Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet

1785: New file uploaded to ranchos


1. Enter Archivos Espanoles en Red
  You will need to create an account if you do not yet have one.  Go to
  http://www.aer.es and click on "Alta de Usuario".  Fill in all of the
  required information and when you reach the last fields "usuario" and
  "contrasena" make sure that your username/usuario is no longer than 10
  characters... one of the many arbitrary restrictions of the site.

[[[[[[[[[[[[Arturo its been a long time and from what I remember it was
more challenging that this to get started.

Here is the url that give more details on the Subscribing process:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/files/Archivos%20Espanoles%20en%20Red/
http://www.ldelpino.com/aeren.html   ]]]]]]]]]]]]]

2. Log into AER and find document
  Log in using your username and password.  You must click on the "Aceptar"

text under the password field. Simply hitting enter will not work.
Once
logged in mouse over the "busqueda" menu heading on the upper left.
Click

  on the "Busqueda por

Archivos Espanoles en Red


Awhile back I was going to order this film
from the Archivo de Indias: C-7025 in one description it made
reference to a 1773 Census of Colotlan




Archivo

Archivo General de
Indias



Código de Referencia

ES.41091.AGI/16418.17//MP-MEXICO,294



Título

Mapa de la Villa
de Xerez de la Frontera y curatos de su jurisdiccion, situada en 23
grados de Latitud Norte



Alcance y Contenido

Márcase
con lineas de colores el distrito de cada uno de los curatos de la
jurisdiccion de esta Alcaldía, que son Xerez, Colotlan, Monte de
Escovedo y Mesquitic.


Colotlan 1785 Census

Victor, Alicia, Joseph et. al.

I have created a folder in the files section for Ranchos that has 
instructions on how to do the transcription of the Colotlan Census.  
It is at the end of member genealogy folders.

Joseph has volunteered to take pages 90 to 100.  These pages are all 
names.  There are names and text interspersed through about page 130, 
so Victor, if you can take pages 101-110 and Alicia, if you can take 
pages 111-120, I will take pages 121-130.

If there are others interested in doing transcription, the remainder 
of the document is mostly text.  Please write me an email and I will 
assign a piece to you.






--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  
wrote:
>
> There is a 1785 Census of the Colotlan region that is held at the 
> Archives of Simanca in Spain and has bee digitized.
> 
> I was thinking that perhaps we could get a few volunteers from the 
> group to help transcribe it and then perhaps even publish it.  I 
think 
> it would

Colotlan 1785 Census

Arturo,

Not sure if I can meet your standards but I can give it a try.  Give
me a few pages that nobody is currently working on and what are the
team guidelines we have to follow.  

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> There is a 1785 Census of the Colotlan region that is held at the 
> Archives of Simanca in Spain and has bee digitized.
> 
> I was thinking that perhaps we could get a few volunteers from the 
> group to help transcribe it and then perhaps even publish it.  I think 
> it would be very useful for many people in the group and as far as I 
> know, it has not previously been published.
> 
> The document can be found on Archivos Espanoles en Red at:
> 
> ES.47161.AGS/19.8//SGU,7015,2
> 
> Let me know if you are interested in helping out on this project.
>





Records for "No Pagados" and some others.

Wow Elvira, you are just a wealth of information.  It's no wonder, 
though, it sounds like you've been researching for over 25 years.  
Too bad you don't live in the Sacramento, CA area so that you could 
meet with the group of us Rancho members who are getting together 
next month.  We have some really talented and experienced researchers 
attending this first meeting, but you (and several others) would be 
such a great addition. 

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "elviraz"  wrote:
>
> Jose Roman:
> 
> 
> What you are suggesting is exactly what I did for the town of San 
Juan de Guadalupe, Durango.  I had been trying to get info from there 
for about  25 years and the priests would not relent.  The registro 
civil was okay but that was it. I found out that the LDS church would 
pay for the microfilming and I started campaigning.  I was fortunate 
to meet the president of the Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de Mexico 
(Benicio Sanchez). I told  him my situation and