Mary,

Depending on the type of record you have at home it may not be as 
accurate as the baptismal record. For the purpose of establishing a 
date of birth a baptismal record would be considered the primary 
source, than say a death record. The person giving the deceased's 
date of birth for the death certificate was anyone but the deceased, 
so they could easily make a mistake.  The spelling of the name 
(Refugio vs. Refugia) I wouldn't be too concerned with either.  I've 
seen records where the priest writes the name two different ways in 
the same record!  If all the names and the place and time period 
match up, then it is likely the same Petra Romero you are researching.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  
wrote:
>
> I actually do have that record and I have been studying it because 
in records at home I found her birthdate as June 8, 1873.  Perhaps 
the 1872 date is incorrect.    I recall as a girl that she would 
insist she was indeed from

Rosalinda,

If you or anyone else ever needs to research a document at AGN, I met
a gentleman (via another genealogy forum) that resides in Mexico City
and can provide that kind of services for a very reasonable fee.

I recently asked him to get me a transcription of a couple of
documents from the 1740s and I was very satisfied with his
paleographic work.  He also got and sent me via email an scanned image
of a section from a 1594 "Testamento".

Victor

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Hi all--
 
Here's the main page for the Archivo:
 
http://www.agn.gob.mx/inicio.php?cu=in
 
I found under "instrumentos de consulta" some search  pages. 
 
http://www.agn.gob.mx/inicio.php?cu=ic&sc=ic
 
If you click Argenta III, then Argento II, you can then enter a search
name/word, and you can select under the pull-down menu Groupo
Documental "999 Todos los groupos documentos," which is the last
choice.  Then  you can search all of the categories.
 
It appears they offer services as

Linda,

FYI, there is a free edition of Legacy Family Tree software.
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
It lacks some of the functions of the Deluxe Edition but it still does
so much, including the report I wrote about.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
>
> Victor, thank you for your tips, I've been told Legacy is the 
> Cadillac of genealogy softwear and I will keep it in mind as my next 
> purchase of genealogy tools. My computer skills are limited and it's 
> a learn as I go project.  I just started using the Family Tree 
> program that allows me to put in people who are not related to each 
> other so that when I can tie in a line I only have to merge them, 
> what a blessing that has been!
> thanks again, Linda
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Linda,
> > 
> > I have developed a somewhat similar system but I make use of a
> > function built into my genealogy software

Arturo,

I've been to the Ixtlahuacan del Rio parrish twice. My first time 
going I called about a month prior to my trip and asked for the 
specific records. The girl agreed to have them ready when I got 
there. When I arrived the girl was very nice, but said she hadn't had 
time to get the records, but she still had the list of names and 
dates. There were quite a few and I offered to help her look through 
the books. She allowed me to look through the books and get xerox 
copies!  The books were from the early to mid 1800's and were in 
fairly good shape. The cover appeared to be a piece of leather and 
for a clasp it had a string wound around a button. I had taken a gift 
to her and she was very happy.  I offered a donation at the end, but 
she would not take it.

My second trip was not as fruitful. There were two teenagers working 
there who were not very helpful and the office was full people 
waiting for help. I had a fairly long list, and they were having 
trouble finding the

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Only 1720 on are filmed and in the databases, because those are the 
actual parish records of the San Luis parish.

However, Esteban Valdes Salazar refers to Franciscan convent archives 
that are held at the parish when citing marriage and baptismal 
records from the mid and late 1600s.  They may go back further than 
that.

I was just looking at the Colotlan films today and was very 
pleasantly surprised to find that the majority of the records are for 
indigenous people and that they are assigned to their historical 
communities in the city... Tlaxcala (which was the Tlaxacltec 
section), Tochopa, Sayotlan, etc.

I bet it is possible to trace the Tlaxcaltec lineages down to the 
modern times. 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Arturo Ramos wrote:
> 
> >There are a whole set of records from the original Franciscan 
Convent 
> >set up in Colotlan in 1591 that are supposedly at the Colotlan 
> >church.  These include baptismal and marriage