After I get my DNA analyzed, we can make a comparison.
 It should be interesting.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Erlinda Castanon-Long 
wrote:

> 
> I went with Gary Felix's site because they have a
> Mexico board that 
> will keep the records for 25 years and will notify
> me if there are any 
> match's they think are close enough, I've had two
> responses from 
> people with ancestors from Guanajuato besides
> Victor's response. It's 
> the family tree dna site in the messages from the
> past on this message 
> board.
> http://www.familytreedna.com/
> 
> Doing the mtdna was just another step for me in
> putting all the pieces 
> of my family history together. Now if I can just get
> a male member of 
> my family to do the same.  They enjoy the fruits of
> my 5 years of 
> genealogy research but balk at spending money for a
> test...  The rates 
> seem to be within the same range regardless of where
> you have it done, 
> a simple swab of your mouth is

Linda,

My result was no surprise but a confirmation of what I already knew by
word of mouth, particularly from my late grandmother.  You can now
find my folder in the files section.  Unfortunately, my maternal
(mtDNA) branch goes back only to my g2-grandmother: my mother is
Villagrana, her mother Martel, her mother Colunga, and then Alvarado.
 I just haven't been able to break thru that wall.  I suspect that she
has roots in neighboring Nayarit and church records from Nayarit
haven't yet been extracted to the IGI.

Your comments about your mother's eyes and skin are very interesting,
which only shows that physical traits are not necessarily correlated
to DNA haplogroups.

Best regards
Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
> 
> Hi Victor, how exciting to even think that someone from a small group 
> like this could be a 4 marker match even if it happened a while back 
> in time.. I find it amazing!!  I looked into the files but don't

I should have given you this site:

http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm
It's under Dna on our links page..

I went with Gary Felix's site because they have a Mexico board that 
will keep the records for 25 years and will notify me if there are any 
match's they think are close enough, I've had two responses from 
people with ancestors from Guanajuato besides Victor's response. It's 
the family tree dna site in the messages from the past on this message 
board.
http://www.familytreedna.com/

Doing the mtdna was just another step for me in putting all the pieces 
of my family history together. Now if I can just get a male member of 
my family to do the same.  They enjoy the fruits of my 5 years of 
genealogy research but balk at spending money for a test...  The rates 
seem to be within the same range regardless of where you have it done, 
a simple swab of your mouth is all it takes.

Linda in Wa.

Erlinda,

May I ask what company you used for your test and how you went about 
researching the prices, services, etc.?

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long" 
 wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> Just got my mtdna results back, don't understand most of but my 
> female line is group A which is pre-Columbian, they take it back 
> 30,000 years... guess we've been here a while! The A group extends 
> down into South America so our female Indio ancestor was native 
> born...  Our male ancestors may have been from Spain but they 
> married Native American women along the line.
> 
> This test does not show any of the women from our male lines, just 
> female to female so it doesn't prove our Espanol or Mulato blood 
but 
> the records prove that, so ...I'm happy just having a more complete 
> picture of our family tree. My proven female line is from Jalisco 
> Mexico.
> 
> Has anyone else in this group done the mtdna?
> 
> Linda from Wa.
> 
> HVR1 Haplogroup
>

Hi Victor, how exciting to even think that someone from a small group 
like this could be a 4 marker match even if it happened a while back 
in time.. I find it amazing!!  I looked into the files but don't see 
your genealogy, are you posted here or anywhere else?  I have my 
maternal line on Ancestry family tree.  In a time reference I can only 
take my female line back to abt 1800 and know nothing before that.  My 
mother was Gutierrez, her mother Villanueva, her mother Mendez, her 
mother Fernandez and her mother Barbosa.. the line stops there. To be 
honest I was surprised to find this a native line since my mother was 
blond and blue eyed and her mother was extremely fair too. They were 
from Tamazula Jalisco but the Fernandez line may have come from 
somewhere else. I guess 200 years is nothing compared to a history in 
genetics that goes back 30,000 years.. but we have to start somewhere 
to find we all more alike than different. I did some reading and found 
that a few Eskimo

Linda,

My mtDNA test came also haplogroup A. My maternal great-grandmother
was from the Jalisco area.

Compare our numbers and see that we match on four markers. Not very
close, but it means we share a common female mother thousands of years
ago:

Mine ----Yours

16075C > ------
16111T > ------
16223T > 16223T
16239T > ------
16290T > 16290T
16319A > 16319A
------ > 16335G
16362C > 16362C
------ > 16526A


Saludos
Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> Just got my mtdna results back, don't understand most of but my 
> female line is group A which is pre-Columbian, they take it back 
> 30,000 years... guess we've been here a while! The A group extends 
> down into South America so our female Indio ancestor was native 
> born...  Our male ancestors may have been from Spain but they 
> married Native American women along the line.
> 
> This test does not show any of the women from our male lines, just 
> female to

These are cool discussions. Does anyone ever remember what the mom's would do if the "Moiyeda" of a baby would fall? In our family if the soft spot of the top of the baby fell or became sunken I remember seeing some kind of involved procedure where a rag was placed over