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The book, ''Rain of Gold ''

Another great read is Sandra Cisneros, "Caramelo".  There's a lot a
great references to the Reyes' family being "cleansed" by having an
ancestor who was from Seville, Spain.  As if marrying a spaniard was moving
"up".  It's a hilarious look a life in Mexico and in "el otro lado". 
Funny funny funny.  Sandra Cisneros is truly gifted.
 
Peggy
-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:52 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] The book, ''Rain of Gold
''

A great book to read to get some perspective on how our ancestors lived
and how and why they left during the revolution is Rain of Gold by Victor
Villaseñor, or Lluvia de Oro. I read it in both Spanish and English and I
cried both times. It also gives some insight into what the immigrants
experienced when they came to the US. For those of us who have our roots in
Mexico it's a very powerful book, very

Atole de Pinole

I used to be given "atole" when I was sick, and I didn't like it.  It tasted like liquid glue going down!
 
Emilie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Margarita Vallazza
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Atole de Pinole
 

My Jerezana grandma used to tell me, "El que comè y canta, loco se
levanta," because I used to sing at her table when I was little. 
Another saying, that I have passed on to my grandchildren, is "habia
una viejita buscando lenya, cuando encontro su lenya, corrio, corrio
para su casa."  And she would be walking her fingers up my arm and
tickle me at the end of the story.

Marge:)
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Victor Villarreal wrote:

> Alicia,
>
>  You beat me to the saying "El que tiene más saliva traga más pinole",
>  but have you heard the one that says "No se puede chiflar y tragar
>  pinole al mismo tiempo"?
>
>  I guess that's the Mexican equivalent of "you can't have your cake
>  and eat it too"
>
>  Victor
>
>  --- In

FOOD and old world traditions

That's something else my grandma would have cooking on her stove...camote. She would serve yams or sweet potatoes cooked in brown sugar (or peloncillo) with milk in a bowl. I never ate them, but my older sister Lissie just loved them.



Marge:)

 

By the way, my father used to like to eat cooked yams in their skin, and he and my mother would pour a little half-and-half and smoosh it in like they were making whipped potatoes.  I eat them out of the skin, too, but I eat them plain.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA.

 

Atole de Pinole

Marge,

You brought cherished memories back.  Those sayings are all too well 
known by me and my brothers.

The version my mother remembers from her childhood, whose words we 
were tickled to, is "andaba la hormiguita, buscando su leñita, llegó 
la lloviznita y corrió, corrió para su casita". Even my daughter 
enjoyed as a child laughing openly when being tickled by her grandma.

I'm sure you must remember this one: "este dedito se halló un 
huevito, este lo coció, este lo peló, este le echó la sal y este 
gordito se lo comió" while at the same time the fingers were ran from 
the little toe to the big toe.  Who else remembers?

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazza  
wrote:
> My Jerezana grandma used to tell me, "El que comè y canta, loco se 
> levanta," because I used to sing at her table when I was little.  
> Another saying, that I have passed on to my grandchildren, 
is "habia 
> una viejita buscando lenya, cuando encontro su lenya, corrio,

FOOD and old world traditions

Yes, Marge, let's do more of this sharing of experiences.  We are all from the areas that Joseph specified as the focus of the group, and I for one want and need to know about words, sayings, customs, the economy, life-style, etc of my father's people and of his times.
 
Emilie
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Margarita Vallazza
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] FOOD and old world traditions
 

What a wonderful story you have shared!  When I went to Jerez in late
November 2000, I was only there for a few hours because the altitude
was killing me...my husband and I stayed in Zacatecas city and man!!!
was I ever sick.  We cut short our trip and flew to Juarez, crossed the
border to El Paso, spent the night at my sister's house, drove to
Albuquerque, and then drove home to KC.

I loved being there...and wanted spend more time there.  As far as I
know, my grandmother had no living relatives there left, I did touch
base with some very

FOOD and old world traditions

Erlinda,
 
Thanks so much for your recollections.  Since my father left Mexico in 1913 and he died in 1966 and I never knew anyone since then from Jerez, I enjoy stories like yours because I feel I am walking in my ancestors' shoes.  If we just stick to the dry subject of formal genealogy with just names and dates, what would there be to talk about, share, and enjoy?  Most of us have posted the trees, and have contacted those who might have a connection, which is a requirement for this group, but after that, all that is left is to update the data.  Thanks for breathing life into my Jerez, ZAC family tree.
 
By the way, my father used to like to eat cooked yams in their skin, and he and my mother would pour a little half-and-half and smoosh it in like they were making whipped potatoes.  I eat them out of the skin, too, but I eat them plain.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:04 AM
To: ranchos

Atole de Pinole

My Jerezana grandma used to tell me, "El que comè y canta, loco se levanta," because I used to sing at her table when I was little. Another saying, that I have passed on to my grandchildren, is "habia una viejita buscando lenya, cuando encontro su lenya, corrio, corrio para su casa." And she would be walking her fingers up my arm and tickle me at the end of the story.



Marge:)

On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Victor Villarreal wrote:


Alicia,



You beat me to the saying "El que tiene más saliva traga más pinole",

but have you heard the one that says "No se puede chiflar y tragar

pinole al mismo tiempo"?



I guess that's the Mexican equivalent of "you can't have your cake

and eat it too"



Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> John,

> 

> Have you had atole de Pinole? If you haven''t you must try it, esta

muy sabroso! You can make atole de pinole with milk or water or milk

and water. Many people add sugar and cinnamon. It''s a

The book, ''Rain of Gold ''

A great book to read to get some perspective on how our ancestors lived and how and why they left during the revolution is Rain of Gold by Victor Villaseñor, or Lluvia de Oro. I read it in both Spanish and English and I cried both times. It also gives some insight into what the immigrants experienced when they came to the US. For those of us who have our roots in Mexico it's a very powerful book, very long but impossible to put down. It was required reading for my son's class in Mexican American History in college.
 
Alicia

Margarita Vallazza wrote:

What a wonderful story you have shared! When I went to Jerez in late
November 2000, I was only there for a few hours because the altitude
was killing me...my husband and I stayed in Zacatecas city and man!!!
was I ever sick. We cut short our trip and flew to Juarez, crossed the
border to El Paso, spent the night at my sister's house, drove to
Albuquerque, and then drove home to KC.

I loved being there...and wanted spend more

FOOD and old world traditions

What a wonderful story you have shared! When I went to Jerez in late November 2000, I was only there for a few hours because the altitude was killing me...my husband and I stayed in Zacatecas city and man!!! was I ever sick. We cut short our trip and flew to Juarez, crossed the border to El Paso, spent the night at my sister's house, drove to Albuquerque, and then drove home to KC.



I loved being there...and wanted spend more time there. As far as I know, my grandmother had no living relatives there left, I did touch base with some very, very distant relatives and spoke about family history. My grandmother's madrina was Trinidad Berumen, which is the name of a famous poet's mother. There are numerous family names we share.



Let's do more of this! Marge:)

On Jun 26, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:


My paternal line is also from District of Jerez Zacatecas. In 1936 my father was there for 3 months working and living with his grandparents (Sanchez/Reveles.)  He said

FOOD and old world traditions

My paternal line is also from District of Jerez Zacatecas. In 1936 my father was there for 3 months working and living with his grandparents (Sanchez/Reveles.)  He said for breakfast they had a mush made from pumpkin and milk.  At noon time while they worked in the fields the women would bring taquito's made from corn torillas, beans and white cheese on the side.  Dinner was light.  He talked about them drying chili's on the ground and someone having to stay up all night with them so the animals wouldn't eat them. He said the old men would roll 'tunas" from the cactus on the ground to remove the thorns for the children and peel them with a really sharp knife.  He said while the men worked the women would take the laundry to the river to wash on the rocks and then jump in to bathe with all their cloths still on. very modest.  He said they ate nopales which  grew everywhere. He said they road horses to Jerez which was 5 miles
away.
 
  When I visited 2 years ago they were still doing