Where did you live in El Paso at that time? I lived across from Sacred Heart Church and School for the first 8 years of my life. As a kid, I hated going across the border because it was so unfamiliar to be and because of all the noise, the exotic odors, the beggars, and the language. I was always afraid, although no one would have harmed me but that's how I was then. Now, I can appreciate everything about it, including the interesting architecture. Marge:)





On Jun 27, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote:

Good and sad times:

We also went to the Marcado in Juarez back in the

early '50s.  My mom would buy dry goods which were

really expensive for us to buy in the United States

(Los Angeles).  Would you believe that we also

purchased young parrots and smuggled them across to El

Paso!  Later on this turned out to be a sad

remembrance for me, when I found out that thousands,

maybe millions, of the these beautiful birds were

wiped out of the rain forests in Mexico, just

Joseph, 

I'll do the translating for you. Just give me a little time and I'll 
email you the Spanish version. 

Just one thing.  Should I wait until you make final revisions to the 
English original?  

Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> Who is the English Major in the group? I really really need help 
getting 
> the following form letter into the proper English before I work 
with 
> John and anyone else that would care to join in translating it into 
Spanish.
> 
> Can someone help me with the English?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: its okay to tear it to shreds and rewrite if that is what it 
needs. 
> All I care about is that the basic information be included.
> 
> ====================
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm glad you are interested in joining the Ranchos group: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/. We are a small but 
dedicated 
> group of serious researchers. Here is the description of the group 
from 
> our home page:
> 
> "This group is for

Good and sad times:
We also went to the Marcado in Juarez back in the
early '50s.  My mom would buy dry goods which were
really expensive for us to buy in the United States
(Los Angeles).  Would you believe that we also
purchased young parrots and smuggled them across to El
Paso!  Later on this turned out to be a sad
remembrance for me, when I found out that thousands,
maybe millions, of the these beautiful birds were
wiped out of the rain forests in Mexico, just because
of greed and ignorance.

Alberto.

--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> When I was a kid, we would cross the border into
> Juarez with my aunts 
> and mother to go shopping at the Mercado, and one of
> the merchants had 
> a display of pinole.  It was sold in paper
> cones--sometimes piñata-type 
> paper and sometimes newspaper.  I liked it...didn't
> get it too often, 
> though.  Marge:)
> On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Irma GomezLucero
> wrote:
> 
> >   Pinole is great with a little milk--sort of a
>

When I was a kid, we would cross the border into Juarez with my aunts and mother to go shopping at the Mercado, and one of the merchants had a display of pinole. It was sold in paper cones--sometimes piñata-type paper and sometimes newspaper. I liked it...didn't get it too often, though. Marge:)

On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Irma GomezLucero wrote:

  Pinole is great with a little milk--sort of a mush.  Love it for

breakfast.  Has anyone heard the following expression:



      El que tiene mas saliva, come mas pinole.



Sorry didn't use accents even after the flood of emails on the subject.  My

engineer and architect cousins from Mexico D.F. don't either in their

letters to me. When asked about this, they responded that they knew how to

pronounce the words without the accents, etc.,



-----Original Message-----

From: lrapido [mailto:1gnzlz@...]

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:35 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Pinole



Talking about food...

I wonder how

My wife cooks 95%-99% of the food mentioned so far.
Yes, I'm spoiled, but not overweight, thanks to her.

Alberto.

--- Irma GomezLucero  wrote:

> We called them tamales dulces.  They are pretty
> good.  Has anyone ever had
> tamales de elote?  Those are wonderful too.  
> Irma
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
> [mailto:longsjourney@...] 
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:16 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Tamales
> 
> 
> Joseph, we must be the other family that eats raisin
> tamales, my mothers
> family is from Jalisco and my Zacatecas family
> thought they were crazy!
> Linda
> 
> Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> "Mexican
> >>genealogy is like a 
> >>big bowl of tamales, you never know what you're
> >>gonna get".  You may 
> >>pull out a pork tamale, or beef, or cheese, beans,
> >>coconut, sugar and 
> >>raisins.....
> >>
> Raisin Tamales. . .I thought my mom was the only one
> that made these.
> 
> Boy could

  Pinole is great with a little milk--sort of a mush.  Love it for
breakfast.  Has anyone heard the following expression:

	El que tiene mas saliva, come mas pinole.

Sorry didn't use accents even after the flood of emails on the subject.  My
engineer and architect cousins from Mexico D.F. don't either in their
letters to me. When asked about this, they responded that they knew how to
pronounce the words without the accents, etc.,

-----Original Message-----
From: lrapido [mailto:1gnzlz@...] 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:35 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Pinole

Talking about food...
I wonder how many of our members have heard of "Pinole" ? Pinole is a high
energy food made from dry roasted corn ground-up and mixed with brown sugar
(Piloncillo, o panocha) and cinnamon and sometimes either lemon or orange
peel for flavoring. The Tarahumara indians of Chihuahua use it as a staple
food. Tarahumaras are basically vegetarians, with meat accounting for about
less than

Hi Linda,
	These sound like tamales de elote.  They grind raw corn--not dry
corn.  Corn that you would eat for corn on the cob.  I don't recall what
they mix the ground corn with, but they place the mixture into the corn
husks, again green corn husks and they steam them.  Then you eat them warm
with butter.
Yummy!
Irma 

-----Original Message-----
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long [mailto:longsjourney@...] 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:49 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Tamales

When I was in Mexico for the first time 2 years ago while in Guadalajara our
hostess stopped to buy corn tamales from a roadside stand that she
frequently buys from.  They were pure corn made with corn oil, no meat
fillers, no sause just pure corn tamale.  I had never seen that before but
they were very sweet just as they were.

As an American born Mexican I was surprised at all the foods I didn't
recognize both in Jalisco and Zacatecas.  I did find eating more healthy,
cooking much plainer and

>>
"Mexican
>>genealogy is like a
>>big bowl of tamales, you
never know what you're
>>gonna get".  You may
>>pull
out a pork tamale, or beef, or cheese, beans,
>>coconut, sugar and

>>raisins.....
>>
Raisin Tamales. . .I thought my mom
was the only one that made these.

Boy could I eat a dozen by myself
right now (but not all Raisin). I
guess I'd have to say that Pork with
lots of "gordo" on the meat are my
favorite. but I can't eat Tamales that
have been cooked, cooled, frozen
and warmed up [well I guess I