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An Unsolved Mystery

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Several members of the LDS church have shared some of the
same experiences with me while I'm at the FHC doing my own research.  They
believe that it is their job to bring their ancestors to their church. 
Maybe this influences their visions, dreams...
I do not dream about ancestors that I have not met,
nor do they contact me.  Being a chicken, I'm thankful. 
My passion for finding out about my ancestors I
believe comes from my parents and relatives talking about their ancestors:
 funny stories, exploits, etc.  
  My abuelito would also tell my older primo
Felipe to grab a pen and a notebook and jot down info. about his parents,
grandparents, etc.,  Felipe whom I haven't been in touch with for over
15 yrs., just put together a little velobound booklet on his parent's
ancestors.  Maybe he's working on both of us in a very subtle
way...
I would sit on my abuelito's lap too like Joseph, but I
would bite my lito's nose.  :)  This was
something only I got away with it too.  My
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SLC2006?/Re: Sacramento Ranchos MeetUp Photo

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readysetgo95814 wrote:



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> here is a picture of the Sacramento Ranchos Meet up. Not everyone
in the

> picture is a Ranchos Member but there were 8 members present:

> if any others of those attending want to do a write up of the
event

> would be great.

I drafted an agenda for our next meeting in
March 2006.  I can e-mail you that and if you think others would be
interested you can post it to the group.  Overall, I think it turned
out very well.  We had a good turnout and the group may grow.  I've had
others express an interest in attending the next meeting.

absolutely great. . .I only wish I could be close by so I could attend.
Please do get as many as possible to attend. Maybe you all could have
one later just a little further South so that more members could
attend. Or maybe the S. Cal members could get their own meet up going.



how many are going to SLC in 2006? what were the dates again?



thanks
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. . .Help From the Past

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this is great and a great thread.



although I don't have dreams [well let me back off and say i don't have
dreams i remember, because I don't remember dreams very often] although
i don't have dreams i share the idea that "our relatives" are somehow
helping us. I guess that sounds funny to me as I say it since some part
of me wants to disagree and say I'm being foolish, but another part
believes it. Its almost like a game. With us finding the information
that is freely available and it seems that our relatives are giving us
ear to ear "sonrizas." and then at other times we are discovering the
families "dirty laundry" . . .secrets that had might have stayed hidden
for 200 years only to have us come along and air that laundry out in
Public. At times I feel more comfortable with my genealogy family than
I do with my live family. I gain comfort thinking of the times when I
was 5 and used to sit on my Abuelito Julio's lap and pull his mustache
(I was the only one he let do that). As I
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Unsolved mystery

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Thank you Emilie for talking about this subject. I find it 
heartwarming that so many group members are willing to share 
their 'extra' help in finding the records for our ancestors.  People 
who don't do genealogy find our passion for finding ancestors 
strange.  My sister said I am a genealogy addict, I told her I was 
just passionate about finding all those who got me here in this day 
and time.  There are times when I don't get much sleep because of 
dreams that ultimately open doors to more lines or names.

In doing records I find it's much easier to find the Spanish 
ancestors than the Indio or Mulato lines due to a lack of last names 
sometimes.  I found that my Espanol ancestor Guadalupe Mendez 
married a Mulato woman, Francisca Valencia in 1833.  Francisca 
haunted my dreams until I decided to pursue her lines. I took her 
Rolon ancestor back to about 1660 and found them in and out of 
slavery. I was proud when they were free in 1680 and inslaved again 
in 1715 with my "love
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An Unsolved Mystery.

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Hi Emilie:
 
You are a good question.
 
The answer to your question is a mystery for to much, but must there is a correct respond. Who have the accurate answer?
 
The human knowledge is very short to respond some of our question. The live end when we dead?, or the life continue in other way no known for us? Is very interesting that the body of the men not is your life, because any man has a spirit, not is the life of that spirit indestructible? as the spirit of the men not dead, is possible that this spirit in the other world where still alive, need some of us?
 
You decide what is the accurate answer to your question?
 
Have a good day.
 
JRGL.
Mexico City.
 

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This is an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife Federation Newsletter:
 
    "For reasons not fully understood, millions of North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan
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An Unsolved Mystery

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Several years ago, when I first started doing research on
my family, I was at the FHC library and a member of the LDS Church was helping
me get started.  I had already made several attempts at research by
myself  but could never get good results.....needless to say, I was getting
VERY frustrated!  In fact, I was ready to give up!   Then I
started having dreams about my ancestors and I did not even know them~~!! 
You can imagine how that felt!   When I told my friend at the FHC
library about my dreams she looked at me in (what I thought) was a strange
way......I asked her what was wrong and she said "nothing"...... Later, as I was
preparing to leave, she took me aside and explained to me that "she did not know
if I would understand what she was going to tell me, but that she would tell me
anyway."  This statement must have come because I told her that my dreams
sometimes scared me and I did not understand why I was dreaming about
people I did not even know......and this
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Garcia-Cervantes of Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco

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Emilie Garcia wrote:

Thank you, Joseph,
 
I will keep updating both my husband's Garcia-Cervantes lines
and my Olague-Tinajero [Felix] lines in World Connect.  I added some
information yesterday to my husband's tree, and today I found another
generation back and I will be updating his tree again to include that
new info later. 
 
One thing I am finding when searching the Garcia-Cervantes lines
is that there are duplicate records for some ancestors in the
IGI.  Some entries are from the officially transcribed original records
and the duplicates say  "Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. 
The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source
information.  The address may be outdated.  Details vary.  To find the
form, you must know the batch and sheet number".  The information on
these submitted by the LDS member are off from the original
transcription by a year or by a month, etc.  What happened here?  The
LDS member seems to have
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ranchos : Links

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okay have a look now. I only left the last two links and deleted the
rest. keep me updated on new entries with specific instructions like
these and I'll make sure to do it (try to do it).



thanks,



joseph





Emilie Garcia wrote:


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Joseph,
 
the last two entries on my list of links are the correct ones,
the ones titled "Garcia-Cervantes" and "Olague-Tinajero [Felix]".  The
other entries above them are duplicates and can be deleted since those
are the links you entered some time ago and are for the same trees.
 
Thanks,
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --


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An Unsolved Mystery

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Maybe is a chip in the brain that compells us, sort or a chip I mean, for me is an urge that started early in life, I try to keep memories of names in my mothers chat over dinners, mostly when we had no tv, I long for those moments... than tater after her pass of the way I dream a lot about her very vividly, and since I started this genealogy formaly those dreams almos stop, nowadays I dream about her now and then... thanks to my parents use of the oral tradition I feel that my relatives I never met are part of the family... that's for me Emilie how it is.   Bye   Leticia Leon

Emilie Garcia escribió:
This is
an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife Federation Newsletter:
 
    "For reasons not fully understood, millions of North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan........the monarchs that return to the butterfly sanctuary in Mexico are
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An Unsolved Mystery

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This is an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife
Federation Newsletter:
 
    "For reasons not fully understood, millions of
North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States
migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan........the
monarchs that return to the butterfly sanctuary in Mexico are approximately five
generations removed from those that left Mexico the previous spring.....how
monarchs are able to locate the same forest ecosystem year after year without
having been there before remains an unsolved biological mystery".
 
When I read this, I had also just read about the same phenomenon in a book
called "Psychic Roots", except that they said it took about eight generations
for the butterflies to make the round trip.  Talk about serendipity!
 
Are we like those butterflies?  What is it that calls us to locate the
records of our ancestors from eight generations past when we have not
been where they lived? 
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