Obispo Francisco Antonio Lorenzana dejo una herencia a los hijos de una señora(ita).   Despues dijeron que se Los hijos de dejo a unos huerfanos.  Deacendientes de el se vinieron a Watsonville y Ventura California.  Yo conozco un descendiente que vive en Camarillo 

Great job, rvs, that’s how I read it, though there are a couple I see differently, tell me what you think:

4. q[ue h]ay
10. de+ella ya con la m[erce]d
13. al s[eñ]or o[bi]spo
14. no [h]ay otra cosa
15. aviso a v[uestra] m[erced]

Might #2 be “conste”? When I read through, neither really makes sense to me! ;)

For abbreviations, I find this website very helpful: https://www.iifilologicas.unam.mx/dicabenovo/index.php?page=inicio

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Hi @alexfanatico, I am no expert but it seems to me like some of the words are the following:
1. Probanza
2. Conoce
3. Juzgaran
4. ** can't understand this one
5. Cosa faltare
6. Ser cosa tan
7. Tan remotas
8. Ser sus padres
9. Le sobra
10. De ella, ya con la mal * not 100% sure of "mal" as the last word
11. Proveyó 
12. Avisado
13. Al Santo Oficio or Sr. Oficial * not 100% sure
14. Hay Dicha Cosa * not 100% sure of "hay" as the first word.
15. Aviso ahí
16. ** can't understand this one
17. Su mujer __ __ conserve. ** can't make out two or three words of this part.

I hope it may be useful!
Best regards,



 

Nicolas Jauregui’ s wife, Tomasa Jauregui Gonzalez, descends from Juan  Francisco Xauregui and Josefa  Chavez Siorda.

The marriage dispensation that I attached states that they are related through the Jauregui so,yes, Nicolas most likely descends from that same couple. The record states that they are “ segundo con tercer grado” cousins. That means that it is most likely that Tomasa’s father is a sibling to a grandparent of Maria de los Santos Jauregui.   That would make Nicolas Jauregui also a descendant of Juan Francisco Xauregui and Josefa Chavez Siorda.
Rick A. Ricci

Is this Nicolas related to the above-named person, who was married to Josefa de Chaves in 1662 in Nochistlan?

San Juana Jauregui and J Encarnacion Yniguez are the parents of Nicolas Jauregui married to Tomasa Jauregui. 

Hello Travis,

I took another look at Bartolome de Mesquita.  His wife Lucia Torres doesn’t show any Silva ancestry.  In looking for Bartolome de Mesquita’s ancestry. I would first search his name with a mother surnamed Silva.   Next I would replace the Mesquita with Silva and look for a Bartolome Silva.   Mesquita may be a location from where he was from and took it as a surname replacing Silva.  Amesquita is a variation of Mesquita so also search with that spelling.  

Good luck in your research,

Rick A. Ricci

I found the post that I wrote that I referenced but it focused on surnames changes according to location. Here it is:

“Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) - Mon, 2016-05-30 20:47 | Permalink

Change in surnames according to location given

Comment

Someone asked me to explain the change in surnames in the Ochoa-Garibay pedigree.

If someone here in West Los Angeles asked where I live I would say Mar Vista. If I was in Northern California I would answer Los Angeles. if I was in another state, let's say a state clear across the country on the eastern coast, I would answer California. If I was in another country, I would answer the United States of America. This is how the surname sometimes changed from one generation to the next for Spaniards in the 15th and 16th centuries. The surnames didn't always change permanently. This was a naming pattern in these basque provinces. Some families kept their same surname even if they moved around. Some other families changed their surname often. In some families everyone changed their surname if one person changed his surname, in other families, every sibling may have a different surname.

Juan Martinez de Uncella de Mondragon de Aramayona de Alava
Ivan (Juan) son of Martin residing in the church jurisdiction of Uncella in the Villa Mondragon, from the valley Aramayona, from the Alava province, Basque Country, Spain.

Iglesia de Uncella from the Valle Aramayona, provincia Alava,
Villa de Mondragon

Later! Ybarlucea and Garibay show up as part of the surname. We have Martin Ochoa Ybarlucea becoming Martin Ochoa Garibay. The change is Ybarlucea to Garibay, from the banks of the river where the fern grows in Elorrio (Ybarlucea) to the valley where Elorrio is located (Garibay)
The banks where the fern grows in Elorrio= Ybarlucea
Valle de Elorrio= Garibay
Provincia de Guipozcoa
Basque Country

I hope this helps,
R.A. Ricci”

The reason that I wrote this originally was to explain why many of the family members had different surnames from their siblings, parents, or other relatives.

Rick A Ricci
 

Hi Dana, 

I'm going through a similar dilemma and settled on a similar solution. Thanks for your perspective. 

Everything is standardized today compared to the past so it's taken me a long time to get my mind around this. Even relatives who recently lived in Mexico don't understand naming customs from the colonial period.

Here's a question - not just for you - but for anyone who can answer: what about those with two completely different names?

Example: Ignacío (b c1630) son of Bartolomé de Mesquita and Luisa de Torres, was obviously named after someone, probably a relative, named Ignacío de Silva. So we have some records naming him Ignacío de Silva and others referring to him as Ignacío de Mesquita.

Thank you, 

Travis

Calle 44 Sector Hidalgo

David,

Up until the 1980's - 1990's, Guadalajara was divided into four sectors named Hidalgo, Juárez, Libertad and Reforma. Guadalajara is currently divided into 7 zones. Similarly Calle 44 was probably renamed since I was not able to find it in the current map of Guadalajara.

Best regards,

Austin Pérez

Here you go: 

Francisco de Cobarrubias vecino destas minas parezco ante vuestra merced y digo que por informaciones y recaudos bastantes que en mi poder tengo tengo probado y averiguado ser como en efecto soy natural de la villa de cobarrubias en los Reinos de españa que es en la diocesis y obispado de burgos y hijo legitimo de martin de navarrete y de ysabel hernandez de logroño su legitima muger mis padres y de como fueron casados legitimamente segun orden de la santa madre yglesia de Roma y que durante este matrimonio ubieron por sus hijos legitimos a mi el dho francisco de cobarrubias y a pedro navarrete mi hermano

I, Francisco de Covarrubias, a resident of these mines, appear before your grace and I say that by sufficient information and records that I have in my possession, I have proven and ascertained that I am, as a matter of fact, a native of the town of Covarrubias in the Kingdoms of Spain, which is in the diocese and bishopric of Burgos, and the legitimate son of Martin de Navarrete and of Isabel Hernandez de Logroño, his legitimate wife, my parents, and how they were legitimately married according to the order of the Holy Mother Church of Rome, and that during this marriage, they had as their legitimate children the aforementioned Francisco de Covarrubias and Pedro Navarrete, my brother.

Saludos!

Manny Díez Hermosillo

I acquired this source from the Huntington Library. I just uploaded the entire document for you if you want it.

https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/34027

He says that he is from the town of Covarrubias in the kingdoms of Spain, that’s in the diocese and bishopric of Burgos; he is the legitimate son of Martin de Navarrete and of Isabel Hernandez de Logroño, who, during their marriage, gave birth to him and to his brother, Pedro Navarrete. In the second image, he says he’s married to Isabel de Rodas, daughter of Francisco Solano Calderon and Francisca Jimenez Altamirano, residents of Garciaz, tierra de Trujillo, in the kingdoms of Castilla (Garciaz, Caceres, Extremadura).

Saludos,

Manny Díez Hermosillo