Fw: Te lo Agradesco

Chava.

Lucas se caso con Gertrudis de Aceves. 30 de Nov 1713 en Jalostotitlan.Film No. (0279295)
Padres de Getrudis, son de acuerdo con mi información; Diego Aceves y Ana Marquez.
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara. Parrafo 990.
San Juan de los Lagos, Jal. Mayo 4 de 1788.- Dispensa de segundo con tercero grado, y tercero grado puro y cuarto grado puro, todos de consanguinidad.- En el Pueblo de San Juan, feligresía de Jalostotitlán, se levantó la información de José Bartolo Muñoz, españpl de 25 años de edad, originario y vecino de esta feligresía en el puesto de la Cazuela, hijo legítimo de Dionisio Muñoz y de Mariana de Anda, difunta; con Maria de San José de Anda, española de 22 años de edad, originaria y vecina de esta feligresía en el puesto de Olivares, hija legítima de Digo de Anda y de Maria Candelaria Ramírez. Definición de los parentescos: Que Calixto de Anda y Maria Ana de Pedroza, procedieron Manuela de Anda, casada con José Ramírez, y Mariana de Anda madre del pretenso,hermanas que es primer grado. Y de Manuela de Anda, nació María Candelaria Ramírez, madre de la pretensa, y de Mariana de Anda, nació José Bartolo Muñoz primos hermanos que es
segundo grado. Y María Candelaria Ramírez, tuvo a María de San Jose de Anda, pretensa. Y de Gerónimo de Anda y Catarina Vasquez, procedieron Lucas de Anda, que caso con Getrudis de Acevex, y Calixto de Anda casado con María Ana de Pedroza, hermanos que es primer grado, y de Lucas nació Diego de Anda, padre de la pretensa, y de Calixto, nació Mariana de Anda, madre del pretenso, primos hermanos que es segundo grado. Y de Diego Marquez y Maria de la Cruz Martin, procedieron José Márquez, que casó con Catarina Padilla, y Ana Marquez, casada con Diego de Aceves, hermanos que es primer grado. De José nació Luisa Márquez,casada con Juan Muñoz, y de Ana, nació Getrudis de Aceves,que casó con Lucas de Anda, primas hermanas, que es segundo grado. Y de Luisa Márquez, nació Dionisio Muñoz, padre del pretenso, y de Getrudis de Aceves, nació Diego de Anda, padre de la pretensa, primos segundos que es tercer grado. 14 fojas.

Espero que esto te ayude un poco. En mi Folder en Nuestros Ranchos tengo algunos nombres de mis Abuelos de Anda. Buscalo en el nombre de Celestino Villalobos, aunque no esta actualizado, tal vez encuentres algo de interes.

Saludos.

--- On Sat, 7/2/11, chavagure@yahoo.com.mx wrote:

> From: chavagure@yahoo.com.mx
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Te lo Agradesco
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:02 AM
> Muchas Gracias Gloria; tengo el libro
> de retoños de la nueva España , pero mi duda es que Lucas
> de Anda nació en Teocaltiche y no se  si realmente sea
> el papá de Diego Francisco de anda, solo lo deduje por que
> tubo un hijo del mismo nombre.
> saludos

Muñoz

Dear friends:

I work in Archivo General del Estado de Coahuila. My phone number is (Cel) 045 844 1064369. In my work is 844 4 118657. I have information about Coahuila if you need some data about.

I´m looking marriage and baptism records about Pedro Munoz and Maria Trinidad Aguilar. Their child Cosme Munoz Aguilar married may 1858 at Villa de Cos, Zacatecas, with Carlota Moreno Guerra Valades. Does anyone knows about? I search at the parrish and I didn´t find anything. May you suggest a Parrish significant close to Villa de Cos? I mean significant because migration or commerce, or something like that. Thanks in advance. And remember I am in Coahuila, I can send you information of my state.

Miguel Angel Munoz Borrego.

Request for information or some reference about Cesar ...

Salvador - you might have better luck contacting the local standing parish
priest or the "notario". Through these two sources, I was able to get
valuable historical information about my husband's side of the family. Often,
teachers come from the larger city - many do a stint in small towns, but
few ever stay or invest in the local history or its residence.

Request for information or some reference about Cesar Quirarte

Dear friends at Nuestros Ranchos.
BACKGROUND:
My name is Salvador Quirarte. My father was Cesar Quirarte Ruiz, born in
Nochistlan, Zacatecas in 1901. His parents were Hermenegildo Quirarte and
Gumara Ruiz. My father and his two sisters Maria and Clotilde Evelia
Quirarte Ruiz left Nochistlan some time in the early 20's to migrate first
to Aguascalientes and later to Mexico City.
His sister Clotilde Evelia was the first women born in the state of
Zacatecas to graduate and receive a Masters degree and a PHD degree. That
has been recognized by the State Congress of Zacatecas.

My father became a classical violinist. Initially he joined the Orquesta
Tipica de Lerdo de Tejada, that for several years traveled all around the US
playing mexican clasical and romantic music. Afterwards he was for many
years the first violin of the National Symphonic Orchestra of Mexico, and
later was director of the Simphonic Orchestra of Veracruz and the
Conservatory in Queretaro and died in the 80's in Mexico City. He never went
back to stay in Nochistlan.

QUESTION: Looking at the Web site of the Department of Public Education of
the state of Zacatecas I discovered that the basic elementary public school
of the small town of Rancho Aculco has the name of Escuela Cesar Quirarte
Ruiz.
I never has been in Rancho Aculco, but looking at the maps I see it is not
so far from Nochistlan.
I was in Nochistlan once when I was a kid and do not know any relative
there, neither from the Quirarte or from the Ruiz side.
Now I live in the USA and do not have any contact with other members of my
family other than my brother.
Trying to find out if the school was named to honor my father I got the
phone of the local Presidencia Municipal at Rancho Aculco and called asking
to have the phone and name of the Head of that little school to provide them
with my phone and e/mail address to start a contact.
The secretary of the City Hall told me the school has not phone or
e-mail but she will comment to the teachers about my call so they can call
or e/mail back to me .I never received any news from them.

So QUESTION is: Did any of you has local contacts in Rancho Aculco that I
can call or e-mail to ask if the name Cesar Quirarte Ruiz was asigned
because of my father, and why/when that happens and also if that is not the
case, want to know if there was another Cesar Quirarte Ruiz in the area in
addition to my father?

Thanks in advance for the kind help that any of you can provide me on this
family mistery I just discover and want to solve !

Saludos
Salvador Quirarte

El libro, Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes: Siglo XVII

Un saludo a todos los miembros del foro. Despúes de un año en este proyecto publico el libro, Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes: Siglo VII. Son todos mis extracciones del siglo XVII de sus registros de Aguascalientes, mis apuntes, apéndices, etc. La venta empezerá la semana que viene. Luego pongo el enlace para comprar su copia.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!! :)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas> Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in 1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records.
Is there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example: "Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

For sale. Book, Archivo parroquiales de Aguascalientes: Siglo XVII

I have good news for all the members of the group. After a year in this project I have published the book, Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes: Siglo XVII. It includes all my extractions of the XVII century of the Aguascalientes records, my notes, appendixes, etc. It will go on sale next week. I will post in the next couple of days where you can purchase your copy.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Indexacion/Indexing

I would like to thank the 30 members of the Nuestros Ranchos Indexing
group. So far we have indexed over 1400 records. Thanks you so much for
your efforts. I would like to make an appeal to other members of the
group to join us.

http://nuestrosranchos.org/2011-06-25_Stats.jpg

Quicera dar gracias a los 30 miembros del grupo de Indexacion de
Nuestros Ranchos. Hemos hacido la indexacion de mas de 1400 documentos.
Muchisimas gracias por su trabajo. Quisiera hacer una súplica a otros
miembros del grupo que se juntan con nosotros.

http://nuestrosranchos.org/2011-06-25_Stats.jpg

joseph

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http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

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>PUEDE SER QUE TENGAN PARENTESCO CON ALGUNOS PRIMOS.....
>COMPARTO ESTE ANEDOCTA.

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>El escritor, Premio Nobel, Mario Vargas Llosa y el celebérrimo asesor Vladimiro
>Montesinos Torres, son parientes entre sí. Ambos descienden del general Joseph
>de Ureta, corregidor de Arica. Doña Matilde Martínez Ureta fue la bisabuela de
>Vladimiro Montesinos Torres, era prima de doña Carmen Ureta Vargas, abuela de
>Mario Vargas Llosa. Luego, Mario Vargas Llosa es tío de Vladimiro Montesinos
>Torres y el hijo de dicho escritor, Álvaro Vargas Llosa es primo del mencionado
>asesor.
>>Mario Vargas Llosa y Vladimiro Montesinos Torres nacieron en la Ciudad Blanca :
>>Arequipa.
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>>Doña Dora Llosa Ureta de Vargas, madre de Mario Vargas Llosa, es hija de doña
>>Carmen Ureta Vargas, casada con José Llosa Bustamante.
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>>De Doña Matilde Martínez Ureta, casada con José Benito Montesinos Garzón, nace
>>María Montesinos Martínez, quien se casó con don Guillermo Montesinos Pastor y
>>de esa unión nació Francisco Montesinos y Montesinos, casado con doña Elsa
>>Torres; de ese matrimonio nace Vladimiro Montesinos Torres.
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>>1936 en la ciudad de Arequipa. Sus padres, Ernesto Vargas Maldonadoy Dora Llosa
>>Ureta, ya estaban separados cuando vino al mundo y no conocería a su progenitor
>>hasta los diez años de edad. Poco después de que Mario Vargas naciera, su padre
>>reveló que tenía una relación con una señora alemana, y como resultado de ésta
>>el escritor tiene dos medio hermanos menores: Enrique y Ernesto Vargas.  
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Information Available for Jalpa (Zac) Informacion Matrimonial for years 1852-1863

Hello Everyone,
I've been going through the Diocesis de Guadalajara's Matrimonios to find any informacion matrimoniales for Jalpa, Zacatecas prior to 1864.

As you may know, most of Jalpa's records before 1864 were burned or lost. I'm keeping track of those that I find at the Diocesis using Google Documents. I'm including the names, date, place, image #, the URL to the first image of the IM, witnesses, and Tronco(s). There is a separate sheet for each year.

The link below should take you to the document for viewing:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtBIJ1fILml9dGptYT…

What's interesting is that while I was searching for Jalpa, I randomly came across people from Jalpa in unexpected locations, including small outposts in Jalisco. There are also several places that appeared to be Jalpa, Zacatecas, but were in fact either "Talpa" (in Jalisco) or "Jalpa Encomienda" (maybe someone can confirm that is now Jalpa de Cánovas in Guanajuato?).

So far, I've found one possible lead to my own ancestors. Unfortunately, this lead has raised more questions that I need to answer before I can say it's paydirt or fools gold.

I'll be adding more years to this document in the upcoming weeks. If you want to work on a year, let me know and I can give you editing permissions to the document.

Saludos,
Arturo G

Gutierrez Alvarez Casillas Cruz Intro

I am  trying to research my grandfather Gabino Gutierrez.  He was born in Valle
de Guadalupe, Jalisco, Mexico about 1889.  He migrated to the United States
about 1907, living in Ohio.  He married and had three children, my mother being
one.  My grandparents divorced about 1924 and he returned to Mexico, marrying a
Casillasand having two sons(Juan and Benjamin).  She died and he married her
younger sister Cecilla Casillas and had one son(Manual). My grandfather died
somewhere between 1968 and 1972.  I traveled to Mexico with my family  in 1964
to meet my grandfather  and Cecilla.  I have been trying to find if he has any
relatives still living and his history.  I have found some in Family Search, but
cannot tie all ends.  I see where he crossed the border in 1940 to visit a
sister in Los Angles.  I found her in the 1930 censuswith their parents living
with her.  I also found where his mother died in Los Angles and I know it is her
as it was stated her mother's maiden namewas Cruz and all the dates matched. 
But have not been able to see his sister's birth or any records. Any help would
be greatly appreciated. I am including link
http://nuestrosranchos.org/node/19073.
 Norma West

census info help

In researching my father I found a 1930 Mexico census on Family search with my grandmother as head of household but the residence is "Carcel Municipal de Guanajuato" I have pasted part of the information below. My question what does this mean? and is there somewhere to find arrest/jail archives? I am having a hard time finding birth record for both of my paternal grandparents :( so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Head of Household: Maria Luz Hdes
Residence: Carcel Municipal, Irapuato, Guanajuato, Mexico
Birthplace: Guanajuato
Marital Status (Spanish):
Film Number: 1464248
Digital Folder Number: 4107113
Image Number: 00078
Page Number: 21
Line Number:

Household Gender Age
Santos Zavala M 6a
Salvador Zavala M 1a

Interview Questions for Elder Relatives

Many thanks to Eloise Reyes for putting together the following
"Interview Questions for Elder Relatives":

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19628

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Nuevos Archivos De Historia Familiar

Muchas gracias a Ma. Isabel González de López para la informacion
"Nuevos Archivos De Historia Familiar":

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19627

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

The ODDS

Hola Members, I have a question concerning my ancestor Toribio Sanchez (marr. to Maria Nieves Martin) .Their Daughter Maria Fermina Sanchez(mestiza) born JULY 14,1822 San Juan de Los Lagos on bautismos 1816-1823 on Image 336. On the bautismo its states Javier Sanchez and Rafaela Lozano as Paternal Grandparents. I went to the familysearch.org IGI (old site) placed the couple mentioned and was given a daughter Maria Petra Sanchez(mulata libre) born Aug.13,1799 Atotonilco el Alto (bautismos 1793-1799,image 386).
The question is ,could the 2 couples -Javier Sanchez and Rafaela Lozano be one in the same ? Is it possible there was a migration from Atotonilco el Alto to the San Juan de Los lagos area ? Another statement Toribio Sanchez and Maria Nieves Martin had another daughter Maria Vicenta Sanchez born July 04,1824 San Juan de los Lagos (bautismos 1823-1829 image 59) and she was classified India. If they are the same couple ,they have a mulata daughter , mestiza and Indian granddaughters from the same parents. Appreciate any incite and I am I missing something ?
Thank you for your time
Ronnie Reynoso

General Sostenes Rocha

Conosco un senor aqui en Carolina del Norte que tiene unos documentos de
el General Sostenes Rocha de unos batallas. El esta buscando lugar para
venderlos y esta contactando la embassia de Mexico.

Conosen ustedes quien puede tener interes en este sujeto?

joseph

pd: este senor es bis nieto de el.

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NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Paternal or Maternal Grandmother???

if a certain relatives name is Juan Jose Leano de la Torre and his
parents are Antonio Leano and Juana Cardenas. What types of speculation
are possible for the "de la Torre"?

could it be any of these possibilities?: paternal grandmother's surname;
maternal grandmother's surname; What are some other possibilities?

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Genobeba Leanos --->Miguel Leanos/Ygnacia Muro ----->Juan Jose
Leano/AntoniaLedesma

Juan Jose's parents--->Antonio Leano/Juana Cardenas
Antonias parents----> Gregorio Ledesma/Micaela Luera Gutierres (at least
it looks like Gutierres)

* Mexico, Catholic Church Records
* Zacatecas
* Villanueva
* San Judas Tadeo
* Información matrimonial 1746-1749
* Image 464 of 552

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Research: Casillas/Ornejo/Ornelas/Vega/de la Torre/ from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco

We are researching the Family of Cristino Casillas and Mercedes Ornejo, from
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. Cristino came to the US in 1920 with his
wife and children, Blas, Marcelino, Maria de los Santos and Bernard. They
settled in Swink, Colorado where Cristino worked in a Sugar Factory. He
then moved to Rey, Arizona where he was a miner, and then on to Detroit,
Michigan where he worked at the Gas company. He had a brother Jose Casillas
who was married to Julia Padilla Casillas and they also came to the US in
1920 and settled in Superior, Arizona. The descending chart attached shows
the following family tree father to son. All were born in Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco, Mexico.

Line of descent:

1. Crisanto Casillas (m) Mariana Vega

2. Pilar Casillas (m) Candelaria Ornelas

3. Cristino Casillas (m) Mercedes Ornejo

4. Blas Casillas (m) Aurora de la Torre

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Nancy Casillas, Saint Clair, MI