Nuestros Ranchos Site

I'm looking for Flores Alatorre, Hernandez, Renteria, Romero out of Jalpa, Zacatecas.

Hi Group, Im studying the Vasquez Retamosa family and am stuck on who is the patriarchs of this family.
I have only found two pairs of sisters: Maria Vasquez Retamosa (1561) who married Alonso Macias Valadez
and Maria Vasquez Retamosa (1565) who married Nicolas Macias Valadez. These families were active in
Aguascalientes and in LAgos de Moreno. It appears most females in these two families took the maternal
surname: Vasquez Retamosa. Can anyone help?

Daniel

There is a tradition about this time concerning the naming of children after grandparents and great grandparents. This, among other information leads to a high probability as to who his parents are.
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Does anyone have more info on Toribio Hernandez de Arellano?

thank you.
Sofia

I came across the term "Gracinas" in the LDS records today. It was placed in lieu of a birth date under the "Events" section of a marriage record (the marriage details were all there).

Not being entirely conversant in Spanish, I looked the word up in my dictionary and found nothing. I know there are more experienced minds at work on this list and so hope to prevail upon your expertise for an answer/definition/history/explanation, etc. of this terminology and its application in this record.

You're all the best, and your help greatly appreciated!

Annette

Seeking relatives from

San Gaspar de los Reyes
Rancho Nuevo
Rancho de Santa Ysabel
Tepatitlan
Rancho Olivar
San Juan de los Lagos

Decedents of Cipriano Perez, J.Juan Olivar, Crescenciana Padilla, Ramirez from Rancho de Santa Ysabel,

Need ship records from Vera Cruz , Yjido records and previous land grants from the Catholic church. Church Records of clegry (Martín Olivar)
Any information is welcomed.

Does any on know where I can find some good books of the history of Guanajuato.

 
Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:24:42 PM
From:
"Amy DeLaTorre"
To:
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Amy DeLaTorre wrote:
The Rojas and Betancourt were born in Cueva Grande and Christened in the Iglesia Catolica, Adjuntas del Refugio, Zacs.  I have ordered microfilm # 1506968 and found births, but no deaths.  Which microfilm do you recommend for deaths in that area and that time period?  Thank You, Amy de la Torre

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Dear Primos and Friends:

So much is happening currently pertaining to our history and heritage
that, I've had to scrunch down quite a few articles. You'll find
considerable information on Texas history. The issue is whether
elementary and secondary textbooks, will include with accuracy and
fairness, the Hispanic historic presence in U.S. history. On Sunday May
2 at 2-4 pm on the steps of theTexas State capitol, representatives from
various groups, including Defend the Honor, the American GI Forum, the
National Hispanic Institute, the Texas Freedom Network, Tejanos en
Accion will give brief summaries on the significance of the key points
the SBOE has rejected. The outcome in Texas will affect all of us.

A special feature, appropriate for Memorial Day is an article by Mercy
Bautista Olvera, "Dignity Memorial Traveling Vietnam Wall: a Healing
Process." Next month we will include a follow-up by Alfredo Lugo about
the process of taking the Vietnam Wall from site to site. He and his
son spent two weeks photographing the process of traveling the Vietnam
Wall to different sites.

A couple of years ago Dan Arellano, at my request produced a very moving
4-minute musical video: El Soldado Olivado . This is a reminder that it
is available at: http://www.somosprimos.com/heritage/heritage.htm It
could easily be used to open or close a Memorial Day meeting. I have
watched it many times, always moved to tears.
A big thank you to all who have submitted information or articles. The
diversity and variety of information surely validates that we are over
the world.

Warm regards, Mimi
www.SomosPrimos.com
714-894-8161

CONTENT AREAS

United States
The Aztec Pantheon and the Art of Empire
NCLR National Conference, San Antonio, July 10-13, 2010
Soldados Olvidados 4-minute video
Daily Newseum
Nuestras Voces Latinas
National Trust for Historic Preservation
Return to Three Rivers, Texas, April 17, 2010 by Daisy Wanda Garcia
A Wise Latina, Sylvia Ann Carvajal-Sutton by Mercy Bautista-Olvera

Special: Dignity Memorial Traveling Vietnam Wall: A Healing Process by
Mercy Bautista-Olvera

Witness to Heritage
Four Tejanos who spoke before the Texas State Board of Education

History
The American Connection to Cinco de Mayo by Dan Arellano
A Piece of Texas history missing in traditional studies by Antonio Lopez
In Search of the truth in Texas History, The Goliad “Massacre”
Letter to Bishop David Fellhauer
Tejana Heroines at the Battle of the Alamo
Los Inocentes in Concert honoring Juana Navarro Veramendi Peres
Sylvia Ann Carvajal Sutton, on Family Connections to Siege of the Alamo

Honoring Hispanic Leaders
Ernest Aguilar, Veteran, Activist
Granville W. Hough, Ph.D., Veteran, Historian
Jaime Escalante, Outstanding Educator|
Ruben Vela, Conjunto legend

National Issues
Briefs . . . . .
Quick news from Hispaniclink
Study of Latino Catholics
Census projections for the Latino population
New birth certificates required of Puerto Ricans
Brief History of Social Security
Currently 80% of Latino children in the US, born in the US.
Criminal defendants entitled to know consequences of a guilty plea
March 31st, Cesar Chavez Day
Long Island man of convicted of manslaughter as a hate crime
Website for articles on farm labor and undocumented laborer issues

Action Item
Briefs. . .
The Latino Journal E-News Weekly
Video: Organize! The Lessons of the Community Service Organization

Business
Baby Abuelita to be Featured in Math Textbook
Women’s History Month Highlights Latina Entrepreneurs Impact on U.S.
Business
NAD Bank Funds UTSA Institute for Economic Development
Spanish-language TV Networks Thriving

Education
The Harmonica Man
Chicago school gets all its seniors into college
Hispanic Scholarship Alliance of St. Louis
LULAC Education News, inaugural issue
Jovita Idar: Early activist for equal educational treatment for Mexican
children
Hispanic Leaders Push for Education
Teach Kids to Love Learning, not Just to Learn How to Earn
Britain's Brainiest Family is Black and Has 9-Year-Old High School-Bound
Twins
High school mural shows female role models
Examples of ¡Excelencia!

Culture
Paul Renteria in documentary, "Pancho Villa's Last Son"
Richly informative: www. Latinoteca.com
Luis Valdez play "Zoot Suit" performed in Mexico City
Priest-Turned-Scientist Wins $1.53 Million Prize
Restored retablo of St. Augustine in the church of Teopisca, Mexico
Swing Cat Enterprises
European Ethnic Minorities Impact South Texas Cuisine and Culture by
By Richard G. Santos
The Little League World Series' Only Perfect Game

Literature
Poem: Avatar by Armando Rendon
Poem: A Rose by Richard Esquivel
Tafolla, Morales honored with Tomás Rivera Children’s Book Award

Books
Children’s Books at Target
Book published in Spain, 1636, digitized by Google.
Luis Ortega’s Rawhide Artistry, Braiding in the California Tradition
by Chuck Stormes, Don Reeves;
Mendez v. Westminster, School Desegregation and Mexican American Rights
by Philippa Strum
King of the Chicanos, A Novel of the Chicano Movement by Manuel Ramos
Organizing the Chicano Movement: The Story of the CSO by Humberto Garza
How the States Got Their Shapes by Mark Stein
Beyond 50: American States That Might Have Been by Michael J. Trinklein

Military/Law Enforcement
Soldados Olvidados, 4-minute video
Diversity in the US Military
The Pacific and Adjacent Theaters in WWII
Un Orgullo Hispano de PR who received two Silver Stars.
People who fought the war in Cagayan Valley
Officer promotions announcements
Great enlarged photos of the top Military Medals
Interesting story about Monopoly's role in World War II
San Benito Veterans War Memorial
Chief Master Sgt. Ramon Colon-Lopez
Filipinos WW II US Military Service
Civil War National Graves Registration Project
Members of the Five-Star Council

American Revolution Patriots
Forgotten Southern Heros, South Carolinians, Hispanics, and American
Independence! film project
Galveztown Plaque
Lt.Col. (retired) Jack Cowan, Texas Connection to the American Revolution
Galvestown Bergantin 1779 Project
Search for Farragut site awaits launch
David G. Farragut Papers
Chronology of Events Surrounding Spain’s Participation in the American
Revolutionary
War by National President Judge Edward F. Butler, Sr.

Surnames
Breakthrough in our Arzamendi research by Lauro Garza Arzamendi
Sescosse by Guillermo Padilla Origel
Yermo by Guillermo Padilla Origel
Spanish Surname Meanings & Origins: Uncovering Your Spanish Heritage

Cuentos
Breakfast Tacos went Mainstream, but it did not happen overnight by Juan
Castillo
Moderate Earthquake in Southern California, 7/29/2008 by Viola Rodriguez
Sadler
Recording family stories which tie into happenings by Mimi Lozano

Family History
"Who Do You Think You Are?"
Tampa Bay Roots
Center of Forensic Profiling, Training & Casework Worldwide Since 1987
Find a Grave
The Perfect Tombstone Rubbing From Kimberly Powell, your Guide to Genealogy
www.Archives.com: Family history made simple & affordable

Orange County, CA
Photo: 2009 Latino OC 100 honorees
May 1st: SHHAR Monthly Meeting: Maternal DNA, speaker Crispin Rendon
May 6th: Salsa with Sergio Contreras, Westminster School Board Trustee
Event and List of 2009 LATINO OC 100

Los Angeles, CA
Art, Activism, Access: 40 Years of Ethnic Studies at UCLA
Fowler Museum exhibition explores 40 years of ethnic studies
Los Angeles Public Library News from Mary McCoy
Alma Llanera-Spirit of the Plains
Hispanic prelate named L.A. archbishop

California
Oakland Museum of California Opening Celebration
URLs for California History
Video of San Francisco 1906 street scene
Telling Their Stories: Producing Web-Based Digital Oral History 5-Day
Workshop
Mission Santa Clara Sacramental Records
Don’t Mexicans bleed like we do? By Patrick Osio

Northwestern US
Saturday, May 22: Hispanic Family History Conference in Salt Lake

Southwestern US
Chicanos connecting with Temazcal roots by way of Mexican sweat lodge
Southwestern Historical Quarterly, 57,000 pages online
Dunbar Family of Arizona
Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce hosts 52nd Annual "Black & White Ball
and Business Awards"
Barriozona Editor Receives Cesar E. Chavez Social Justice Award
New Mexico Genealogical Society Celebrates 50 Years
Cuisine of the Trans-Mississippi Colonists Goes West By Richard G. Santos

Indigenous
To Native Americans, naming is identity by Ines Hernandez-Avila
The Taino Tribe Seeking Recognition in the 2010 Census
Indian Tribes Go in Search of Their Lost Languages

Sephardic
The Jews of Spain: Past and Present
Dispersion of Iberian Jews by Gloria Mound

African-American
Afro-Native Americans: The Journey of Black Indians, Past and Present
Reporter seeks Afro-Latinos to Interview
On the US Census, there is no category specifically for mixed race or
biracial.
Racial Profiling

East Coast
Taller Boricua
Uneasy Communion: Jews, Christians, and the Altarpieces of Medieval Spain

East of Mississippi
Kane County State Attorney's Office, From the Barrio to the Classroom
project
Swedish Covenant - Taft High School, From the Barrio to the Classroom
project
Canarian descendants in St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana
The Old St. Gabriel Church
They Come in Ships by Paul Newfield III

Texas
Narciso Martinez Cultural Arts Center
“Battle of Medina " Seminar May 15, 2010 - Laredo Texas, VSALGS Society
Tejanos in Action, Honoring May 28, 2010, the Johnston High 20
Casa Navarro seeking Friends, Preserve the past ~ Protect the Future
Kera's Little Mexico/El Barrio
Doctor continues push for Tejano monument
Defunciones del año de 1813 durante la Batalla del Alasan

Mexico
David Rumsey Historical Map Collection: Mexico City 1883
Don Ignacio Allende Unzaga 1769 –1811 by Clemente Rendón

Caribbean/Cuba
Viejas Fotos del Trolley de Puerto Rico...
Cemi Underground and Taller Boricua
Spanish "Cuban Papers "
Cuban-American Statistics.
The Birth of a Rican Manuel Hernandez Carmona

Spain
Parish of the Assumption of Our Lady in Cordova, Spain
Dona Sancha de Ayala
Revista Electronica: Genealogia Costa Rica
List of Officers & Sailors in the 1st Voyage of Columbus
Reyes Catolicos de España, Fernando II de Aragon e Isabel La Catolica
Consignatarios de Indias.

International
Great web sites on our Hispanic & Filipino connection
Caballeros Andantes, Historia y Leyendas
Primera expedicion desde los Cayos de San Luis, Venezuela
Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Latin America by Scott S. Smith
Nazi Plan for South America

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Hello!

I wanted to take the time to introduce myself.  My name is Alexis Villagrana and I reside in Jefferson, Oregon USA.  It's so nice to have found your group and was so thrilled to have joined in the research!

I am fairly new at genealogy and have only been researching since mid December 2009.  Even though I am new at this, I've really taken a passion for it because I've always had a determined and investigative nature.  A lot of my family's history had been forgotten and even lost! 

Thanks to genealogy research, a lot of what was lost, is being recovered. My intent is to help preserve history as well as my own heritage!

Okay, now the surnames and locations I have been researching are:

 1.  The Villagran's from Zacatecas,
Mexico.

Descendants of Felix Villagran

                                                                                  Generation No. 1

1.  Felix Villagran was born on 12 July 1850 in Zacatecas, Mexico.  He married Apolinares Reyes probably around 1870 in Zacatecas, Mexico.
   
Children of Felix and Apolinares Villagran are:
2.    i.    Maria Villagran, b. Abt. 1896, in Zacatecas, Mexico.
3.    ii.   Antonio Villagran b. Abt. 1898 in Zacatecas, Mexico.
4.    iii.  Andres Villagran b. Abt. 1905 in Zacatecas, Mexico.

Note: My family surname
Villagran was changed to Villagrana upon them coming to the United States. 

I noticed the Villagran family had also resided in Chihuahua, Mexico, just prior to emigrating to their new residency in the U.S. around the spring or summer of 1916.

2. The Romo's of Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico

Descendants of Jose Guadelupe Romo

                                                                   Generation No. 1

1.  Jose Guadelupe Romo was born 12 Sept 1887 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico.  He married Gregoria Martin or Martinez? in 1906 in Jalisco, Mexico.
   
Children of Jose Guadelupe
and Gregoria Romo are:

2.   i.    Ramon Romo b. abt. 1910 in Jalisco, Mexico.
3.   ii.   Jose (Joe) Romo b. abt. 1913 in Jalisco, Mexico.
4.   iii.  Juanita (Jenny) Romo b. abt. 1916 in Jalisco, Mexico.
5.   iv.  Jesus (Chewy) Romo b. abt. 1920 in Jalisco, Mexico.
6.   v.   Sara Romo b. abt. 1922 in Gallup, New Mexico.
7.   vi.  Josephine (Josie) Romo b. abt.1924 in Gallup, New Mexico.
8.   vii. Esperanza (Hope) Romo b. abt. 1928 in Gallup, New Mexico.

Note:  Jose Guadelupe had a brother close to his age named Augustine Romo. I don't know too much about him just that he lived on a big ranch in Encarnacion de Diaz, which we have family photos of from the late 1960's, showing parts of the ranch.
Unfortunately, the last time my family was able to go to Mexico was in the mid 1970's.  I was only 4 years old at the time.

My brother had recalled during his 1960's visit to Mexico as boy, that one of our  relatives on the Romo side, was a Bishop or a spiritual man of some sort in the area of Jalisco; I believe in Encarnacion de Diaz? And my brother said that there is a shrine in the village dedicated to him.  I wish I knew the name of this relative!  This info has also been lost over the years because no one documented it and also because of aging, illness and death.

This concludes what I know about my family history. I apologize it is so long but I thought the info might be informative.  I am so curious to find out how it is/was that our ancestors and descendents from Mexico look somewhat caucasian with blue, green, hazel  as well as brown eyes; and our hair color ranging from brunette to blonde, even
red hair.  I heard that somewhere along the line, we obtained the French blood in us.  That it possibly happened when the French came to Mexico many years ago and mixed with the Mexican people!

Like I said, I am new so PLEASE feel free to offer any suggestions to a beginner genealogist!

Sincerely,

Alexis Villagrana

user id:  AlexisVillagrana1970

i was told that a priest has to submit a pedigree chart to the vatican when he enters the priesthood. if that is true can you request a copy of that pedigree chart?

Does anyone happened to have film # 0640139 Batch # M602507
Dates--1867-1883 Marriage records for Jalisco?

Thanks

Alguien a encontrado a Atenogenes Sigala, nacio alrededor de 1750-1780. Se caso con Regina Gomes. Tuvieron a Silverio Sigala. Silverio se casa con Victoria Gomes. Silverio tuvo a Maximo Sigala, que nacio en Jalostotitlan el 9 Junio 1831.

Gracias de antemano.

Sergio

When gathering LDS records is it assumed that when they "Nochistlan, Zac." they mean Nochistlan de Mejia, Zac. or do they mean the smaller town to the North East called simply Nochistlan. Or perhaps this is an entirely different place than two I am considering?
Thanks

Dear Group,
 I've come across two new situations that have become stumbling blocks to my reseach.   I refer to them as stumbling blocks, not brick walls, because I believe it's just a matter of my inexperience that is causing the problem.   I'm sure that more experienced researchers know how to deal with them, and will be willing to share and educate.
 
1.  How do you research in Spain when you don't find IGI films to view?  I've studied the PARES site and have found posssibly useful information, but don't know how to access birth, baptismal, or other records or documents to verify that I'm dealing with the right person.  I'm sure I need to acquire a new mindset, different from what I've been doing up to now with online IGI and FHC films, and I'm willing to learn.   
 
2.  How do you access films (#1553565, batch #0760031) that can't be sent to FHC and have limited access at the FHL?    
 
Your help would be greatly appreciated.    Thanks so much.      Alice

I am seeking information about these two persons, Jeronimo Lopez de la Serna, and Ana Losano, my maternal 7X in-laws. They were the parents of Thomas Lopez, husband of Juana de Soto, who were married on 25 Jun 1695 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes (El Sagrario), Mexico.

Thank you.

Paul Gomez

I live in Rancho Cucamonga, which is about 60 miles east of L.A. and is
right next to the Ontario International Airport (ONT). The ONT is much more
easily accessible than LAX. Rancho Cucamonga is also central to all of
southern California. There are a few hotels in the city, all of which are
very nice, but the one I work with for the education seminars I host charges
a discounted rate of $79 plus taxes per night; it is six miles from the ONT
and does have a shuttle to the airport.
Depending on the size of the group, we can meet in a home, or I have access
to a very nice facility that charges $16 per hour for a room that holds
about 40. Or more for a larger room.
~Deena~

There were a number of people who were interested in attending, but for
various reasons were not able to. Many of those interested parties are from
the Los Angeles, CA area and have expressed an interest in having the next
conference there. We are more than willing to consider holding the 2011
Conference in the Los Angeles area, but to do so would require a resident of
that area to help us secure a location and help with the logistics. I want
to ask any of you living in the Los Angeles area if you would be willing to
undertake that responsibility? Please let me know ASAP because we'd like to
begin planning as early as possible. I would also like to get an idea of the
number of people interested in attending and/or being a Speaker. It will
most likely be held n April or May 2011.

En Espa?ol:

Nuestra primera Conferencia fu? un gran exito, gracias a los esfuerzos
incansables de Hely Sparkman, y la cooperaci?n de Alicia Carrillo, Mart?n
P?rez, Kitty Cort?z y los oradores excelentes.

Hubieron varias personas que estaban interesadas en atender, pero por alg?n
motivo u otro no pudieron. Muchos de ellos radican en el area de Los
Angeles, CA y han expresado inter?s en que la prox?ma Conferencia se realize
en el area de Los Angeles. Para poder satisfacer esta petici?n
necesitariamos que alg?n residente de esa area nos ayudara encontrar el
lugar y con todas las log?sticas necesarias para el evento. Hay alguien que
este dispuesto a hacerse cargo de esta responsabilidad? Por favor
comuniquense conmigo lo mas pronto posible. Tambien me gustaria saber a
cuantos de Ustedes les gustaria atender y/o ser oradores. Lo mas probable
es que el proximo a?o va a ser en Abril o Mayo de 2011.

Maria Cortez

Seeing my e-mail inbox fill up with members not sure if they should purchase a book or inquiring to its content.....I have a suggestion.

Take advantage of your local library. Many, many moons ago I borrowed Mariano Gonzalez Leal's book "Retoños De España En La Nueva Galicia" through interlibrary loan. In fact it was one of the first books I saw regarding Nueva Galicia. Since then I have used interlibrary loan when trying to find books out of print. I've copied what I needed and have never been disappointed.

In these times where our pocket book is tight or a little lean, take advantage of the free service. Go to Google books, enter the author or title of the book you are looking for. When the book link pops up on the left hand side there is a link "find in library". That will direct to "WorldCat.org". WorldCat lists the book and in this case there is a copy in Mexico, Spain, Stanford in California, San Antonio, Tx and Princeton in NJ. Take this printout to your local library and fill out the form...sometimes I just give my copy of the print out to the librarian and they try to find a closer location who owns a copy.

Another book I obtained through interlibrary loan a long time ago was "Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara Antiguo Obispado de la Nueva Galicia". The book came from U.C. Riverside, CA. So I got to see the book before Maria de la Luz Montejano Hilton sold it to the general public.

Also check out the LDS library catalog for books on microfilm. I know that Mariano's other book regarding the Romo de Vivar's and Guerra family is available....since I have also copies of it.

Rose

I am seeking information about my 8th maternal great grandparents. They were married on 02 Sep 1662 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico. They had 7 children: Teressa, Ana, Ines, Manuel, Joseph, Onofre, and "Po"?

Thank you.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

I'm researching my ancestors, I am not an advanced geneologist by any means and any help would be greatly appreciated. My maternal grandfather is Julian Beltran Ramirez, his parents were Francisco Beltran and Aniceta Ramirez Curiel. In the 1930 Census it lists my grandfather as having been born in Juanacatlan, Jalisco in 1910 and his father from La Cofradia, Jalisco in 1874 and his mother from Zaplotanejo, Jalisco in 1875. I am looking for dates and information(birth, death, etc) for their parents. Eduviges Beltran and Francisca Navarro. I only have their names but I can't find any dates for them or where exactly they are from.

My maternal grandmother is Gregoria Flores Alvares born in 1915 and her parents Marcelino Flores born in 1890 and Simona Alvares born in 1900. In the 1930 census it just lists all of them as being from Jalisco, Mexico.

Thanks in advance for any help.

JGamez-Friend

Can some one tell me how to call to Mexico if I have a 1800 number. Do I need to dial 01152-800-XXX-XXX I have tried so many ways and I can not get it right.

Thanks

Varios meses en el pasado, hubo una consulta acerca Josefa Beas, y
Juan Thadeo Salas. Ahora he encontrado la línea en mi base de datos paterna.
He encontrado dos hijos con los registros de matrimonio en Totatiche, Jalisco,
1775 y 1872. Lo siento, no he sido capaz de localizar el
envío original en Nuestro's Rancho's.

Parece que tenemos antepasados comunes, y ahora puedo compartir la información sobre nuestra línea familiar.

Several months ago, there was an inquiry on Josefa Beas, and
Juan Thadeo Salas. I have now found the line in my paternal data base.
I have found two son’s with marriage records in Totatiche, Jalisco,
1775 and 1872. I’m sorry, I have not been able to locate the
original posting on Nuestro's Rancho's. It appears that we have common
ancestors,and I can now share the information on our family line.

A todos los que me han mostrado su interes en ayudar con la transcripcion de Testamentos y Documentos antiguos de Aguascalientes les aviso que ya lo pueden accesar.

La direccion es al siguiente:

http://www.romogutierrez.com/Transcripciones/

Suerte!

To all the members who have showed interest in this project, I'd like to let you know that the index of Testaments and other documents has been uploaded and is ready to start. the link is as follows:

http://www.romogutierrez.com/Transcripciones/

Good Luck!

> Hello Maria,
Do the two volumes that you have mention the Romero, de la Torre,
Pena, and Camarena families? Is the book written in Spanish only?
Can you tell me the names of the books and where I can obtain them
(if the names I am researching appear in them). I know I can muddle
through the Spanish if the families I am researching appear there.

Thank you for the information.

Linda Romero

> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:06:46 -0700
> From: mcortez
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] General Digest, Vol 51, Issue 2
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hello Alice,
>
> I have a copy of the only two volumes that have been published to
> date--Volumes 1 and 2.
>
> The first volume covers the history and social study of the original
> Spanish settlers of Los Altos de Jalisco. The area is comprised of 26
> municipalities in the State of Jalisco. It contains a few pedigree
> tables
> and genealogical facts, but it is more of a narrative on the
> history and
> only mentions individuals in their historical context as needed.
>
> The second volume contains the genealogies of the first settlers.
> Each
> chapter begins with the first Spaniard to settle in the area and
> lists each
> generation descended from that first couple. Some families are
> traced all
> the way to the 1900's. The chapters are in alphabetical order, as
> John
> Schmal describes in his post, ending with Gomez de Mendoza. The third
> volume was to continue alphabetically beginning with Gomez de
> Portugal, but
> hasn't been published to date.
>
> If you are doing research in any of those municipalities in Jalisco, I
> highly recommend these books.
>
> Maria Cortez
> Sacramento, CA
>

In 1591, 400 families left Tlaxcala to colonize the northern lands of the Chichimecas. Some of them reached Zacatecas. I believe some of them went north to New Mexico with Juan de Onate in 1598. I'm trying to locate a list of the Tlaxcalans.
One of my ancestors, Juan de Leon Brito married Sebastiana Madrid in 1692 at Guadalupe del Paso. He returned to New Mexico following the Pueblo Revolt of 1680 to his ancestral lands in the Analco barrio of Santa Fe. He has been identified as a Tlaxcalan Indian.
Please help me locate any available lists of the 400 Tlaxcalan families.

Hello Alice,

I have a copy of the only two volumes that have been published to
date--Volumes 1 and 2.

The first volume covers the history and social study of the original
Spanish settlers of Los Altos de Jalisco. The area is comprised of 26
municipalities in the State of Jalisco. It contains a few pedigree tables
and genealogical facts, but it is more of a narrative on the history and
only mentions individuals in their historical context as needed.

The second volume contains the genealogies of the first settlers. Each
chapter begins with the first Spaniard to settle in the area and lists each
generation descended from that first couple. Some families are traced all
the way to the 1900's. The chapters are in alphabetical order, as John
Schmal describes in his post, ending with Gomez de Mendoza. The third
volume was to continue alphabetically beginning with Gomez de Portugal, but
hasn't been published to date.

If you are doing research in any of those municipalities in Jalisco, I
highly recommend these books.

Maria Cortez
Sacramento, CA

-----Original Message-----
> From: Alice Blake
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:03:16
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retonos
>
> Hello Dear Group,
> Over the past couple of years?members have?citied and mentioned?"Retonos de
> Espana".? I'm not surprised there's?great interest in acquiring the books.?
> However, ?I've never really gotten a good idea?as to the contents and/or
> format of?the?books.??Could someone please give us novices a quick who,
> what, when, and where is covered within????Is it specificly revelant to all
> of us, or only a?subgroup?? Since attending a conference in CA is out?of the
> question, I'd like to know if this book could be a good resource.?????
> Thanks so much for your expertise,??? Alice BB????
>
>
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:26:27 -0400
> From: johnnypj@aol.com
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retonos Contents (tomo II)
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> In addition to having a couple dozen pedigree tables, TOMO II of Reto?os
> discusses:
> ?
> Aceves, Alba, Alcala y mendoza, Aldrete, Alvarez de Castillo, Alvarez -
> Tostado, Anava, Anda-Altamirano, Aranda, Ascencio de Leon, Azuela de San
> Pelayo, Camacho - Riquelme, Camarena, Casillas y Cabrera, Diaz del Castillo,
> Diaz - Varela, Diaz de Sandi, Escoto - Tovar, Fernandez de Palos, Fernandez
> de Rueda, Flores-Alatorre, Franco de la Cueva, France de Paredes, Gallegos,
> Garcia de Hemrosillo and Gomez de Espejo.?
> ?
> John Schmal
> ?
> ?
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