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Hello, is there a connection between the names Velasco and Villalbazo? Last night when I was working on my 3rd great-grandmother's family, I discovered that she had children before my 2nd great-grandfather. When my 2nd great-grandfather Manuel Asebes was born, her name was listed as Maria Urzula Villalbazo and her father was shown as Francisco Xavier Villalbazo. It was shown this way for Manuel and his younger siblings. But when I found older siblings last night her name was shown as Maria Urzula Velasco and her father was Francisco Velasco. This was in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico in the early 1800s. I appreciate any thoughts you might have about this. Thank you.

Ventura Muñoz and Rita Martinez de Orozco fathers of Santiago Muñoz married with Andrea Solís.
This two couple were in Villa de Cos, Zacatecas from 1755 to 1815.

I found at the same years in the same town a marriage (1766) between Anacleto Apolinario Martinez de Orozco y Maria del Refugio Muñoz Marquez. She says born in Charcas, SLP. The parents of Anacleto were "padrinos" in a baptism of a son of Ventura.

Do we are in front of two brothers married with two brothers? Does somebody knows this family? Refugio says she is a daughter from Nicolas Muñoz and Manuela Gertrudis Marquez. The Parents of Anacleto are Juana de Betancourt and Eugenio Martinez de Orozco "padrinos" of baptism to Maria Estefana Muñoz Orozco a daughter of Ventura y Rita in 1777.
This is my Munoz lineage. I´m looking for the Ventura parents.
Thanks.

Me llamo Victor Eduardo Hernandez Triana​ de Colonia Hidalgo, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, y estoy formando el árbol genealógico de
mis familias. Me estoy enfocando en el apellido Triana, y los apellidos de el lado de mi madre.

Los apellidos por las que me he estado enfocando son:
Triana, Vitela, Vidaña, Fraire, Rueda, Bueno, Magallanes
La mayoría de mis descendientes vienen de:
San Miguel del Mezquita​l(Juan Aldama)
Miguel Auza
Sain Alto
Sombrerete
en el estado de Zacatecas​.

Algunas pistas que tengo sobre la familia Triana de la segunda generación, dos hermanos, el
padre de el General Martin Triana Guzman, Exiquio Triana, y el padre de el Coronel Emiliano
Triana Gomez, Gregorio Triana, fueron parientes de mi abuelo Quirino Triana. Se rumora que
eran primos hermanos. Martin Triana Guzman, Emiliano Triana Gomez, y Cipriano Triana
fueron primos hermanos, tal vez primos segundos de mi abuelo Félix Triana Vidaña por alguna
manera. No sabran como es que son parientes?

Tambien quiero averiguar es si alguno de ustedes tiene mas informacion sobre quien fue Pedro Triana, esposo de Maria Rudecinda Vitela. Sus hijos fueron Quirino Triana Vitela, y Maria del Refugio Triana Vitela.

Si son parientes de las familias Rueda, Bueno, o Magallanes de Sain Alto y Juan Aldama/Miguel Auza Zacatecas, cual quier informacion seria muy agradecida. Si quieren informacion sobre mis investigaciones de estas familias, preguntenme de cual familia y se las dare.

Aqui esta la lista de mis decendientes por la Familia Triana. http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/eduardotriana

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

In Ancestry trees they have a drop down box for marriages that says MArriage Bann, Marriage License and Marriage Contract, does anyone know what the Informacion Matrimonial is? is it a marriage bann, marriage license or marriage contract? i thought maybe it was a marriage contract, but then i thought maybe a dowry was a marriage contract. ?

Danny C. Alonso

I am having a difficult time trying to locate Nicolas Garcia Reyes baptism, I have his matrimonio at Asuncion de Maria Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, 1846-1853, image 667 of 773= In this image it states that he was from el barrio Salitre Ags, I also know according to the Book written by my great grandcousin Antonio de La Torre Garcia, titled Cuatro Valores Aguascalientenses, where he write about my greatgrandfather Jose Angel Garcia Macias his brother Rafael and Angel's son Antonio. In this book, the year birth of Nicolas is 1830, his father's first name Zacrias.But according to the matrimonio, his father's name is Don Camilo Garcia and his mother Brigida Reyes, his bride is Pantaleona Macias. On the baptism for Maria Patricia Garcia, Bautismos 1841-1842, Asuncion de Maria Image 351 of 481, the parents are Camilo Garcia and Brigida Reyes, Abuelos paternos Jose maria Garcia y Vicenta Bocanegra, Maternos: Antonio Reyes y Josefa Losando. In Bautismos de castas ; 1807-1812 Images 272 and 273 of 573, July 9, 1809, bautismo de Jose Camilo Garcia Yndio hijo legitimo de Jose Maria y de Vicenta Aguilar, Paternos; Jose Bartolo Garcia y Maria Margarita Salas, Maternos; Jose Dionicio Aguilar Y Maria Eucevia Vocanegra. All this information makes it difficult to confirm without the documentation. Is there some Garcia Bocanegra (Vocanegra)Reyes or Losando that can provide light at the end of this tunnel. Gracias primos.

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me what these two words mean on this defuncion for Jose
Maria Saavedra. It's on the bottom of the page on the right and it's the
two words immediately after it says 68 años

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9P58-4D3

Danny C. Alonso

these two people are my great,great,great grandparents I think Teodoro was born 1830 could be off Anastacia is born in 1830 Zacatecas state area one of their kids was Jose Trinidad Duran born about 1851 married to first wife : Maria Trinidad Alvarez then second wife : Gregoria Munoz. thanks for reading

Joseph,
Glad to hear you've recovered from the car accident. Sad to hear you're
retiring from managing the website but I'm sure it will free up time for
you to enjoy doing other things.

Thanks for all you've done to get the website up and running. It's been an
amazing source of information for me and I've directed many people to this
website who've reached out to me because of potential DNA matches.

Wishing you the very best in your new world of retirement!
Sylvia Cruz Lottes

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Does anyone know who the parents are to Teresa de Herrera Quijas married to Domingo Martin(es) de Sotomayor. They were married Marriage: 25 APR 1666 Aguascalientes, Mexico

Domingo Martínez de Sotomayor His Parents (Andres and Maria de Islas)
Deceased • M31V-WV3
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Theresa de Herrera y Quijas Deceased • MGML-4D9
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They have a son named domingo martinez de Sotomayor married to Maria Cervantes (I haven't checked to see if she is part of the Cervantes family that married into the infamous Avalos family.

Thanks!

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm trying to locate the parents of Manuela Mireles and Pedro de Arias.
There children were from San Luis Potosi and Zacatecas, but these people
got married in a place called Nuevo Leon, i don't know how close that is or
where it' is. it says they live on the rancho of Domingo Mireles. Does
anyone know who Domingo Mireles is, i'm thinking he might be her father or
relative.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS24-TB

Danny C. Alonso

HOLA A TODOS LOS MIEMBROS QUE ESTAN BUSCANDO INFORMACION DE ANTEPASADOS EN AGUASCALIENTES LES COMENTO QUE TODOS LOS DOCUMENTOS NOTARIALES DE LA EPOCA DE LA COLONIA ESTAN YA EN LA RED, TESTAMENTOS, CARTAS DE DOTE MATRIMONIAL Y ESCRITURAS. SOLO TIENEN QUE INGRESAR A LA SIGUIENTE PAGUINA DE INTERNET ES www.sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx un saludo todos

hi im searching for the parents of isabel martin who is my 3rd gr grandmother. she was born about 1825 in mexico and death dates is unknown at this time. her father is a lucas martin and a woman by last name of gregoria. i would like to know the mothers name as im currently working on my family tree. any help would be appreciated. i currently have a folder on here that anyone can view as follows http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/stephmartinez316

thank you for your time my name is stephanie martinez

To me it looks like the word is "herrero," which means he was a blacksmith by occupation. If you look at adjoining deaths, you will see the priest enters the occupation of the deceased immediately following his age.
Stella Cardoza

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me what these two words mean on this defuncion for Jose Maria Saavedra. It's on the bottom of the page on the right and it's the two words immediately after it says 68 años

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9P58-4D3

Danny C. Alonso

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It sounds like (Hebrew)

*Hevreo indigena*
Maybe someone else knows different.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Danny Alonso wrote:

> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
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> Could someone tell me what these two words mean on this defuncion for
> Jose Maria Saavedra. It's on the bottom of the page on the right and
> it's the two words immediately after it says 68 años
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R.A. Ricci,

I was trying to contact you, but I do not think the e-mail link at Nuestros Ranchos is working. What is the best e-mail address that I can reach you at to talk about genealogy?

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm looking to see if anyone in the forum has information on Juana Manuela
Lozano that was married to Bartholome Martel. she married Bartholome Martel
probly around 1720 or earlier. She would be born probably around late
1600 I guess. I really mostly just want to know who her parents are.

Danny C. Alonso

Could some one who has Ancestry.com please try and help on a death record for Faustino Alva. Ancestry.com shows a Faustino Alva death record in 1903,in Guanajuato. However, I can't see it because I do not subscribe to Ancestry.com
Thanks for your help,
Raul Cristerna Luna

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-30549-5550-80?cc=1937239
Registros matrimoniales diocesanos 1813 Caja 163 > image 1087 of 1680
7 September 1813.
Marriage dispensation of Jose Nepomuceno Albares and Maria Josefa Reynoso
Key info:
This tree provides parentage to the common ancestor Diego Reynoso who
was married to Margarita Renteria. Diego de Reynoso y Padilla-Davila
was baptized 5 January 1634. Juchipila linkage as follows:

Juan Nepomuceno Albares stated his age 20, placing birth year circa 1793, born in
Contitlan, Juchipila Parish, Zacatecas, Mexico. He listed his parents as Jose
Antonio Albares (deceased) and Maria Josefa Reynoso.

Maria Josefa Reynoso stated her age as 14, placing birth year circa 1799, born in
Contitlan, Juchipila Parish, Zacatecas, Mexico. She listed her parents as Alexandro
Reynoso and Maria del Carmel de Luna.

The bride/groom were distantly related via Diego Reynoso/Margarita Renteria as follows:
Diego Reynoso was the father of Jose Reynoso, who was the father of Juan Jose
Reynoso, who was the father of Josefa Reynoso, who was the mother of Juan
Nepomuceno Albares (groom).
Diego Reynoso was also the father of Juan Antonio Reynoso, who was the father
of Jose Antonio Reynoso, who was the father of Alexandro Reynoso, who was the
father of Josefa Reynoso (bride).

Hello, my name is Vanessa and I just joined nuestros ranchos. My maternal side is from Jalisco. My grandfather Leopoldo Salcedo Escoto was born in Degollado, Jalisco to Jose Manuel Salcedo Camarena and Delfina Escoto Aceves and my grandmother Francisca Villaseñor Villaseñor was born in La Barca, Jalisco to Salvador Villaseñor Ochoa and Maria Carmen Villaseñor Estrada. I'd like to know more about my family and where I came from and get a better grasp of who they were. I am excited to learn and contribute in anyway that I can.

I have been trying to figure out who the parents of Petronila de Retamosa Macias Valades Gonzalez de Gardea are and still have no real clue. Petronila was married to Joseph Lozano in Teocaltiche 23 February 1666. All other information on her comes from baptism, marriage, info mat., wills, and burials of her children in Aguascalientes. In each record she is listed with a different combination of surnames.

Considering Petronila’s Mestiza/Tresalba status, I am under the impression that she may be a natural daughter of an Espanol father just as her mestizo husband Joseph Lozano was.

Her use of Gonzalez and Gardea hint that she may be descended from Martin Perez de Gardea and his wife Mariana Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba in some way but I am not certain of this. Her use of Macias and Retamosa suggest that she must be descended from Nicolas Macias Valades and his wife Leonor Retamosa in some way. But how?

I thought I was close with the couple Francisco Martel and Ana Macias. Both are descended from Nicolas Macias Valades and Leonor de Retamosa. Ana Macias mentioned having a daughter named Petronila in her 1698 will. Only this Petronila would be too young to be the same Petronila married to Joseph Lozano.

I have been noting the Padrinos and Testigos of Petronila’s children who share surnames with hers for clues.

*A Beatriz Gonzalez is Padrina to the baptism of Petronila’s son Juan Lozano 21 August 1679.

*A Phelipe Gonzalez is a testigo to the marriage of Petronila’s son Juan Antonio Lozano 28 December 1710. Phelipe Gonzalez gives his age as 46 setting his birth at about 1664.

*A Pedro Macias is a testigo to the marriage of Petronila’s son Eugenio Lozano, about 15 January 1697, and to the marriage of Petronila’s daughter Juana who married Sebastian de Ulloa 25 May 1696. Pedro Macias gives his age as 37 or 40 setting his birth at about 1660 or 1656.

*A Joseph Macias Valades is mentioned in the burial record of Petronila’s daughter Juana 20 November 1738.

*A Miguel Martel (perhaps a relation of the Francisco Martel mentioned above) is a testigo to the first marriage of Petronila’s son Manuel Lozano 10 February 1698. Miguel Martel gives his age as 47 setting his birth at about 1651.

*An Antonio Macias Valades is a Testigo to the marriage of Petronila’s son Joseph Lozano 12 August 1716. Antonio Macias Valades gives his age as 40 setting his birth at about 1676.

*Joseph Lozano married Maria Teresa Nunez 12 August 1716. Maria Teresa Nunez is the daughter of Juan Nunez and Teresa Macias Valades. Teresa Macias Valades is the daughter of Gabriel de Castaneda and Maria Valades.

Does anyone know how these Padrinos and Testigos fit in with the descendants of Martin Perez de Gardea and Mariana Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba or Nicolas Macias Valades and Leonor de Retamosa? Has anyone seen Petronila or her children listed as Padrinos or Testigos of their lines? This may help give clues to who her closer relations are, and may help narrow down potential candidates for her parents – or paternity if she is a natural daughter.

I do not know if this Isabel Mendoza that we have been looking for all these years but she does have many, if not all, of the puzzle pieces that we have been using as clues.

While looking for more information on Sancha Sanchez de Velasco's father, Sancho Velasco el comendador, I found a young lady related to the Velasco and Mendoza named Isabel Mendoza, daughter of Antonio Velasco Manrique, Sr. De Salinas del Rio Pisuerga and Maria Manuel Sarmiento.

Her father descends from Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, 2nd Sr. De Hita y Buitrago and Leonor Lasso de la Vega. Many , many years ago, Mr. Navarro, a genealogist that claimed to have seen a Mendoza family tree in the library in Salt Lake City said that she descended from this Diego Hurtado de Mendoza de Mendoza and Leonor Lasso de la Vega but I don't know if he provided every generation until Isabel Mendoza married to Toribio Hernandez Arellano. If he did provide the steps, I don't believe it was this line as this seems as new information to me, though I do recall some genealogists stating that they thought that she was related somehow to the viceroy. They didn't give how she was related. It has been so long that I saw Mr. Navarro's claims that I don't recall his steps. What I do remember was that the Isabel Mendoza that he claimed was the wife of Toribio Hernandez Arellano would have been born to soon so there had to be a mistake in his line.

This Isabel Mendoza that is the daughter of Antonio Velasco Manrique, Sr. De Salinas del Rio Pisuerga and Maria Manuel Sarmiento does fit the time frame and she was the half - sister of Luis de Velasco y Ruiz de Alarcon Ii Viceroy (Virrey) de la Nueva Espana. (born from her father's second marriage and much younger than her half brother)

Antonio Velasco Manrique, was the son of Pedro de Velasco y Carillo de Mendoza and this is where one line of the Mendoza comes from.

Another Mendoza ancestry comes from Maria Manuela Sarmiento. Antonio Sarmiento, Alcalde mayor de Burgos, and Maria Mendoza are the parents of Maria Manuela Sarmiento. This explains why Isabel Mendoza used Mendoza as a surname instead of Velasco as her maternal grandmother was Mendoza.

Isabel's maternal grandmother, Maria Mendoza, is the daughter of Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza, I count of Monteagude and Isabel Zuniga y Avellaneda.

Pedro is the son of Pedro de Mendoza, Señor de Almazan, and Maria de Luna. Mr. Navarro had stated that Isabel descended from a Mendoza Luna line. Through the Mendoza and Luna lines, This sabel Mendoza is a distant cousin to Toribio Hernandez de Arellano.

Isabel de Zuniga is the daughter of Diego Lopez de Zuñiga, I Conde de Miranda, y Guzman and Aldonza Avellaneda D' Aza,

Diego Lopez de Zuñiga y Guzman is the son of Pedro Lopez de Zuñiga y Garcia de Leyva, I Conde de Ledesma. I already posted Pedro Lopez de Zuñiga y Garcia de Leyva's descendancy from Edward III, King of England to Nueva Galicia in a previous post. Pedro Lopez de Zuñiga, 1st Conde de Ledesma is a common ancestor to different lines that I have been working on from Nueva Galicia. He is not the first common ancestor, nor the one with the most descent, that I have found for many of my ancestors from Nueva Galicia. I am looking for all the common ancestors and plan on showing all the connections in my book.

On a side note: Antonio Sarmiento, alcalde de Burgos, has an interesting ancestry himself. He is a descendant of James the Conqueror, King of Aragon through one of his ancestral lines, and through another ancestral line is a descendant of a mulata named Beatriz de Zuñiga. Maria Manuela descends from Saint Fernando III.

R.A. Ricci

Somos Primos, in its Agust 2005 issue published the following contribution sent by Ophelia Marquez. It includes several significant facts about this family:

An entry in the diocesan records of Nueva Galicia, in Guadalajara, relates that in 1702, the leaders of the Indians from San Pedro Susticacan, in the parish of Jerez (Zacatecas), complained to the "visitador". They were unhappy with what the priest, Bartolome Cervantes Negrete and the vicar, licenciado Melchor Marin de Mayorga were charging; "bautizos un peso, matrimonios catorce pesos, defunciones quince pesos, defuncion de angelito cuatro pesos, fiesta titular de Sr. San Pedro cinco pesos y por cada imagen en procesion cinco pesos."

On 16 July 1710 was the burial of Maria Negrete, the widow of Lorenzo de los Reyes cervantes, in Guadalajara,s Church of San Francisco. She had declared her will on the 7th before Bartolome de Castro, "Escribano Real". The will's executors were her sons, Lazaro Cervantes Negrete and the priest "Bartolotne Negrete, cura beneficiado de Jerez".

Lazaro, too, had aspired to the priesthood, for in Guadalajara, in 1691, he presented this information so as to be admitted; Born in Cocula 11 Apr 1674, he was the legitimate son of Lorenzo de los Reyes Cervantes, "Escribano Real de Haciena y Caja" and Maria Negrete y Plaza. Paternal Grandparents; Captain Bartolome de los Reyes y Cervantes and Catalina Lopes de Salazar. Maternal Granparents; Captain Diego de Negrete Cortes and Jacinta Romero y Plaza.

He didn't profess however. Rosa de Chavarria was his first spouse and on 7 May 1713, he remarried in Guadalajara to Antonia Perez Lomelin. She was from Jalostotitlan (Jalisco), the daughter of Manuel Lomelin y Mendoza and Josefa Perez Maldonado y Saavedra. Being a widow upon her death, her burial was 5 June 1729 in Nueva Galicia's capital. One son, Manuel Cervantes Negrete y Lomelin professed for the priesthood in 1741. Two siblings, Basilic and Ignacio resided in Nochistlan (Zacatecas, the original homestead of the Lomelin family. They wed two sisters; Manuela and Maria Duran Ruiz de Esparaza y Gonzalez respectively.

From this lineage was Jose de Negrete, O.F.M. In 1706, he was the Order's "Provincial" (headmaster) in Jalisco.

The most remarkable data is about their ancestors cited in the information Lazaro presented when he "aspired to the priesthood" in 1691.

Does anyone know the reference to familisearch films of this information Lazaro presented?

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Dear Somos Primos and Friends:

This month I was the monthly speaker for the Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research, SHHAR, a group that I helped co-found thirty years ago. I used to take my grandchildren to heritage events which SHHAR organized or participated in. My grandchildren are now married with their own children. Time certainly passes swiftly, meaningful steps along the way sometimes forgotten.

However, time can gives perspective. My focus has been to seek out our ancestral history with facts and honesty for greater understanding of the present. It has been a slow unfolding, revealing Spain's importance globally. Only recently did I realize the role of the horse in all of it. The more I researched it, the more I saw the role of the Spanish horse in all of it.

You've been hearing about the SPANISH PRESENCE IN AMERICAS ROOTS, SPAR Initiative since the start of the year. Our committee of history activists is moving forward, launching a fund raising program to protect a herd of horses in Madera, California whose DNA is traceable back to the Spanish horses first brought into the Americas in the early 1500s.
Hopefully you will be moved to support this effort financially.

The horses are living proof of our Spanish/Mexican/Latino contributions to the very foundation of the United States. Complete information is found under the Heritage Projects section. I compare the Lewis and Clark expedition in 1804-6, with the explorations of our Spanish ancestors from the 1500-1800s, substantiated by a map included under the Early Latino Patriots, El Virreinato de Nueva Espana, and introduce Robin Collins and her great dedication to "her ponies".

May SPAR's spirit peak your interest.
Warmly, Mimi
www.SomosPrimos.com
714-894-8161

UNITED STATES
A Childhood Search for Hispanic Pride by Gilberto Quezada Latinos in Heritage Conservation Be a Partner in Preservation of National Parks, VOTE.
Become a Part of the National Preservation Forum Community The Mayflower Compact – the first Dream Act by Joe Lopez USA - Convention of States Action Constitution 101: The Meaning and History of the Constitution Committee on the Status of Minority Groups in the Economics Profession
Profiles: Dr. Refugio Rochin-Rodriguez
Defending American Shores By Jennifer Vo and John P. Schmal Eligibility Criteria for Deferred Action Programs & Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Dario Fernandez-Morera tilts at the windmill of the Andalusian Myth – and the myth topples by Danusha V. Goska Texas Cemetery Sued Over "Whites Only" Policy by Alexa Ura Memoirs by Daisy Wanda Garcia Lost Photographs of Hitler's Germany Historic Latino Urban Riots by Aaron G. Fountain, Jr.
Shortage of Latino Doctors as Population Grows Ray Starmann, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Retires from the Marine Corps Director Rodrigo García's life echoes across biblical 'Last Days in the Desert'

HERITAGE PROJECTS
The inspiration for the new SPAR initiative, the SPANISH PRESENCE IN AMERICAS ROOTS by Mimi Lozano Heritage Discover Center Director Robin Collins introduces herself HDC LEGACY Fundraiser José Joaquín de Arrillaga Initiative SPAR's Promotion of Stationary and Traveling Exhibitions

HISTORIC TIDBITS
1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles C. Mann True Texas History and More True Texas History Fascinating history of the $1 bill: Who Was Haym Solomon?

HISPANIC LEADERS
Vicente Mendoza, Activist artist: April 6,1947 – May 4, 2016
Dr. Cuitlahuac “CP” Garcia: December 12, 1923 – April 24, 2016 Amin David, Activist, Advocate, community : 1932 - May 21, 2016

LATINO PATRIOTS
Memorial Day always gives my heart a twinge by Eddie Morin Alfonso Gonzales, 96-Year-Old WWII Vet, Becomes USC's Oldest Graduate The purple heart truck SURVIVOR, new magazine, Francisco L. Lovato, Editor Support Needed for Latino Patriots via the Smithsonian Institution by Refugio I. Rochin, Ph.D.

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
June Speaking schedule of author, Judge Edward Butler
El Virreinato de Nueva Espana - Biblioteca Militar de Barcelona
Current Policy on Spanish Soldiers from the SAR website:
Granaderos y Damas de Gálvez, San Antonio Chapter, King William Fair
2016
The ‘Other’ European Ally of the Continental Army
Part 2, Concise history of Bernardo de Galvez by Hon. Edward
F. Butler, Sr.

SURNAMES
Naming system in Spain
The Batista Name

DNA
My venture into DNA by Armando Zamarripa
Our DNA is 99.9% the same as the person sitting next to us

FAMILY HISTORY
5 Places to Find Historical Books Online for Free by Kimberly Powell
New FamilySearch Collections Update: May 2, 2016EDUCATION
Great resources here for undocumented students from the College Board
2016 NHBWA Educational Scholarships.
Orange County Department of Education makes surprise visits to announce
the 2017 Outstanding teachers
Americanizing the English Department and its Curriculum - A Latino
Perspective

On the right side, the first record is the record of Nicolas Robledo

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGG9-KDD

I need help with Nicolas' mother Andrea ??? surname married to Juan Martin Aviles. Does anyone have any knowledge of the Robledos? It is so strange that both Nicolas and Ysavel Maldonado have different named parents. I couldn't find the IM to confirm it was not a double mistake. Thanks.
K8KW-HBJ is the record ID on familysearch.org
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I'm really excited to be a part of this web site. I have been doing reasearch on my mothers side of the family.

Her father is Cayetano Jose Reynoso, born 7 August 1888 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico, and died 19 June 1970 in Council Grove, Kansas, USA. He was the son of Demetrio Ariasa Reynoso, born 13 May 1864 in San Miguel, Jalisco Mexico and died15 May 1891. His Mother was Maria Engrasia Deanda born 16 April 1870 in San Juan De Los Lagos and died 20 May 1932. Demetrio and Maria married on 29 April 1885. After the death of Demetrio Maria married a gentleman with the last name of Hurtado.

My grandmother was Anastacia Hurtado Guerra was born 14 August 1899 in San Jullian, Jalisco, Mexico, and died in Topeka, Kansas, USA. She was the daughter of Florentino Hurtado Hurtado, born 17 October 1855 in San Julian and Tomasa Guerra, born 1864.

I am hoping other may have some information on these families.