Ayuda para encontrar padres de Martín Muñoz y Dolores Aguilar

Hola a todos los genealogistas:

Desde hace tiempo, me ha sido imposible encontrar a los padres de los siguientes tíos:
Martín Muñoz, casado con Dolores Aguilar en El Sagrario de Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes el día 24 de diciembre de 1831. Batch M60486-2

Ellos fueron padres de los siguientes hijos, todos bautizados en Aguascalientes: de María Sabina del Refugio (1o. enero de 1833) Marcelino (15 de noviembre de 1840), José Julio (25 de diciembre de 1842).

Ésta familia pasó a vivir a León, Guanajuato. en donde pereció Marcelino en la inundación de 1896.

De manera que agradeceré cualquier información para localizar a sus padres, para poder saber su origen geográfico. Gracias de antemano.

Saludos

Marcelina

Looking for input on Villaseñor tovar data

In my research of my Villaseñor Tovar lines I have seen many posts on the Internet with a wide range of dates. I hope a discussion is started between the people with different dates.

Here are some of my notes:

Don Diego de Burgos y Tovar was "alcalde de la fortaleza de Uclés " in the late 1400's and early 1500's During this time as alcade he was already on at least his second marriage.

From his first marriage he had a son named Luis Villaseñor that left many descendants in Spain.

From his second marriage to Doña Guiomar de Horosco y Sandoval he had three sons. I descend from two of their sons, Diego the eldest and Juan the youngest

Diego De Orosco Tovar (the eldest from the second marriage) was born in 1483, Francisco was born abt 1490 and Juan was born in 1500.

Since Diego de Orosco Tovar is born in 1483 and he is the product of a second marriage then his father could not have been born in 1480 as some have posted. It is impossible for the 1480 date to be correct. Let's say that his brother, Luis Villaseñor from his previous marriage is born three years earlier in 1480 and make Diego de Burgos at least twenty-five for his first son's birth. This would make Diego de Burgos birthdate prior to 1455. Most likely much earlier given that I am only adding a few years between the children of the two marriages.

Given the information that we know, Diego de Burgos Tovar (Villaseñor) was an older gentleman when his youngest son Juan Villaseñor Tovar y Orosco was born.

This is the lineage :

Juan de Villaseñor Serones and Elvira De Tovar Enriquez

Diego de Villaseñor y Tovar (born between 1405-1420) Isabel de Villaseñor (Alfonso Villaseñor)

Diego de Burgos Tovar (Villaseñor) (born prior 1455) and his second wife Guiomar Horosco y Sandoval (born prior 1481)

Juan Villaseñor-Tovar y Orosco (born 1500) and Catalina Cervantes

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

FW: Somos Primos August 2016

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Dear Family and Friends:

A surprising fact: in spite of the Spanish/Mexican presence in California
since the 1770s, California HAS NEVER elected a Latino to the office of US
Senator. California became a state in 1850.

Read the facts in the August issue. I've included graphs which visually
demonstrate the points.

This may be the year, a 166 years later to finally have a US Senator who
will expess the Mexican/Latino/Hispanic perspective. We have a strong
candidate in Loretta Sanchez.

In 2016, our country is experiencing one of the most dramatic national
election of the centuries. Both parties are troubled to their foundation by
the demands of the American people to put the power of their vote back into
their hands. Clearly Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush were being pushed by their
party machines, the old established in-siders vs the new faces of outsiders.

I want to present to you the facts of another, to me equally as important,
or possibly historically eventually will be viewed as an even more important
California race. Barbara Boxer, California's US Senator office is retiring.
Under the Constitution, members of the United States Senate may serve an
unlimited number of six-year terms and members of the House of
Representatives may serve an unlimited number of two-year terms. It is a
very politically powerful position. Barbara Boxer served 10 years in the
U.S. House of Representatives from 1983 to 1992, before being elected US
Senator in 1993.

Two well qualified candidates, U.S Representative, Loretta Sanchez and
California Attorney General Kamala Harris are running for the office.
Sanchez has twenty years experience serving in the US House of
Representatives. However Sanchez is little known outside of California and
is the party outsider, because Harris is a good friend of the president, who
is campaigning for her with all his resources and those of the Democratic
party.

Sanchez was born to working class parents. Sanchez's mother is a teacher in
the Santa Ana School District. She told me, she earned a
teaching credential, while raising her family. "I wanted to set an
example. I was going to school, while they were going to school."
Harris life was one of privilege, the daughter of a black Stanford
University professor and a South Asian Indian physician mother.

So much neglect, injustices and confusion is explained by this historically
monumental absence of a Latino presence in the US Senate.
After reading the historical evidence in the August issue of Somos Primos, I
believe that all Americans, in fairness, will agree that Latinos in
California, in the Southwest, and nationally have not been historically
presented, and will share the information with primos and friends, no matter
wherever they live. Please voice your support for Loretta Sanchez and our
history.

God bless America, Mimi

3er Coloquio de Genealogía e Historia Familiar en Aguascalientes/México, 11 y 12 de Agosto de 2016

Hola a todos:

Vamos a participar en el 3er coloquio de Genealogía e Historia Familar, el 11 y 12 de agosto de 2016 en la Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes en Aguascalientes, México.

La presentación der Guenter será sobre la prehistoria de su familia (siglo 12 al 14), la migracion de Sajonia > Bohemia > Silesia. Y el cambio del apellido - von Rodaw/Rodow > de Rodov > Beheim/Behem von Schwarzwaldau und Rodov > Behem/Böhme/Böhm y fueron Caballeros y/o Hidalgos, y en nuestros días el apellido sigue evolucionando > Böhm/Bohm/Boehm, según el país en donde se viva.

Base de esta presentación es el video del video-producer mexicano Fernando Chagoyan "Historia de la Familia Böhm - 800 años de historia familiar en 800 segundos".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVqFSDnIFIM

La presentación de Bertha es el parentesco de las familias Navarro Aceves y González Flores. Navarro linea materna de Bertha con la linea materna del beato Anacleto González Flores.

Esperamos que el coloquio sea tan interesante como los de los últimos dos años.
Ojalá que nos veamos en Aguascalientes.

Saludos,
Guenter Boehm y Bertha Medina Navarro de Boehm
Investigadores Independientes, Estado de Nueva York
www.boehm-chronik.com

Beatriz Lopez de Ayala

HI everyone,
Apologies first if this has been covered before , but I searched all the prior threads and didnt see anything on her Spanish roots.
________________________________________________________________________________________________
I’m currently researching Beatriz Lopez de Ayala, historical figure of Colima among other states who was married at one time to Alonso De Arevalo. She sailed from Sevilla in 1518 (18 yo) and landed in New Spain 1535 with Antonio De Mendoza, the first Virrey of New Spain. Her parents were Pedro de Lopez Ayala and Teresa Recalde.

Has anyone researched her family back in Spain? If so, do you know what city did they came from? And are they connected to the noble house of Lopez de Ayala. I ask this second question as Beatriz stated she traveled with Virrey Mendoza (Antonio de Mendoza) to new Spain and his father The Marques de Santillana, a poet was part of the same circle as the Lopez de Ayala’s including Pedro Lopez de Ayala who was a prominent poet, historian etc. at the time. I am wondering if she is related the Lopez de ayala house.

Please let me know if anyone has any light to shed on this.
Also how could she travel alone at 18 on a ship to New Spain without family? I imagine she could have been converso or Jewish escaping??? (Just a guess)
Any help appreciated,
Pauline

Sources:
http://sceh.blogspot.com/2010/04/terratenientas-de-colima-en-el-siglo.h…

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marqu%C3%A9s_de_Santillana
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_de_Ayala

Research Digest, Vol 126, Issue 12

Danny it says mister engineer, señor ingeniero.

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Reply to Danny Alonzo re Susana Isabel Carolina Mendoza

Danny,

The word appears to be "ingeniero." His occupation, engineer, perhaps?

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

in this baptism for Susana Isabel Carolina Mendoza can someone in the forum say what the word in front of her dad Don Manuel Mendoza means?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-65DS-TWR

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Jewish ancestry of Juan Aguilar Solorzano's mother

Dear Bill,

1). Pedro Solorzano and Maria Diaz de Saldaña are the parents of Juan de Aguilar Solorzano. Pedro and Maria are from "villa de Aguilar de Campo, Palencia" (Spain)

[Maria Diaz de Saldaña is a widow by 23/March/1493] {She is a conversa. Her brother and uncle remained Jewish and were expelled from Spain.}

2). Juan Aguilar y Solorzano and Ana Martel are the parents of Juan Aguilar y Solorzano "el mozo" (junior) (II)

3). Juan Aguilar y Solorzano "el mozo" (junior) and Maria Pantoja are the parents of Juan Aguilar y Solorzano (3rd).

4). Juan Aguilar y Solorzano (3rd) and Francisca Ruiz are the parents of Juan Aguilar y Solorzano (4th)

5) I believe that my ancestor, Juan Aguilar Solorzano (5th), is the son or grandson of #4

Saludos,
Rick A. Ricci

Los Angeles Times article "Hispanic genealogy made easy" focus on Mimi Lozano, SHAAR and Somos Primos

Today's LA Times has an excellent article on Mexican genealogy and the origins of SHAAR and Somos Primos. It is based on interviews with Mimi Lozano and others. Includes photo of Mimi with partial display of her family tree. This is the 30th anniversary of the Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research founded in Orange County by Mimi, Tony Campos, Raul Guerra and Ophelia Marquez. We have much to be grateful for this organization which emphasized networking and sharing.

Hispanic genealogy made easy
A nonprofit lineage research group helps people trace their family's ancestry
Los Angeles Times
Monday, July 25, 2015
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Family Search Indexing

Have you heard about this? Family Search is allowing indexers to choose projects. I've often wondered about that as I looked through each image, I thought that it would be so easy and a good use of my time to index as I search. Can you imagine what we can do for the Los Altos area? I'm excited for this. http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2016/03/new-familysearch-p…

Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico 1592

I was looking in the PARS website on Capitan Miguel Caldera and I came a page where at the top of the page around line 7 it talks about the Chichimecas in Mezquitic.

At the bottom of the page it mentions "Valparayso (Valparaiso)" which is in Zacatecas. Along with Tlatenango, San Andres.

The year is 1592 which is the earliest reference of the existence of Valparaiso.

http://oi64.tinypic.com/2hxlls0.jpg

I found it in this website:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

refernce no. MEXICO,220,N.30

imagen 31

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=3&&t…

Bautismos de Tepetongo 1861 Missing

Hi all,

I found my great-grandfather's civil birth, so now I'm looking for his baptismal certificate, slogging through the images. However, where 1861 should be (1859-1869), there's no 1861. I've skimmed through the whole file, and I don't see 1861 anywhere.

Also, there's an index for 1862, but the numbers next to names don't seem to match the entries. I wanted to look at Sanchez Celia (169), Cani (?) (235) and Sacramento (548), but can't finf anything. Very frustrating. Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Laura

Rosa Maria de Fonseca parents

Hello forum,

Rosa Maria de Fonseca married Juan Garcia de Miranda (Felipe Vasquez de Lara's grandson) in Santa Maria de los Lagos on June 30 1693. She died on June 02 1702 in the birth of their son Felipe.

Juan tried to get married again on 1710. In the information he presented he stated he was the widow of Rosa Maria de "Ysas" (Isassi).

There was a married couple: Domingo de Fonseca and Felipa de Isassi whose children were born in the same time frame Rosa Maria was born. One of them: Blas, married Leonor Gutierrez de Hermosillo in Tepatitlan on June 02 1704. Leonor was granddaughter of Pedro Gutierrez de Hermosillo, natural son of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo.

The clues point Rosa Maria was the daughter of Domingo and Felipa. If so, the same Fonseca's were nearly related to Garcia de Miranda and Gutierrez de Hermosillo lineages.

Does anybody has information confirming it, or information about who her parents were?

Research Digest, Vol 124, Issue 6

How to I get my id and pass on the site have lost them.

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Last year I tried to go to Pinos to look at the records but too many cousins
to visit in San Luis Potosi. So glad you made it to Pinos and are generously
sharing your hardwork. I wish I had known you 1996, I went many times to San
Luis during this time period, and I could have learned from a master!! Oops,
with your records, I am! Thanks.

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Member Introduction

Hola Primos y Vecinos,
I am searching for information or relatives on the Paternal side of my family.
The Locations are all in Los Altos de Jalisco: Teocaltiche, Atepoca, Ajojucan, San Andres, Belen, Ojo de Agua, and Tequesquite, although there are some mentions of Aguascalientes and Zacatecas.
The Surnames are: Alvarez; Aguilera; Cruz; Chavarria; Flores; Gonzalez; Garcia; Gutierrez; Moran; Ramirez; Reyes; Sanchez; Tejeda.
Sources are primarily: FamilySearch.com and their Church records from Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.
My genealogy was submitted on June 15, but I already need to edit the data, once I figure out how to do so.
I started with my father,
1. Elias Gonzalez Tejeda son of
2. Lazaro Gonzalez Aguilera and
3. Cresenciana Tejeda Cruz
4. Patenal GF, Andres Gonzlez Moran (Hermosillo?)
5. Paternal,GM, Adelaida Aguilera Garcia
6. Maternal GF, Macedonio Tejeda Ramirez
7. Maternal GM, Onesima Cruz Sanchez
More information is available in my file, which I don't know how to attach.
I look forward to a cordial and productive relationship with the members of Nuestros Ranchos and hope you will have a lifeline for me and that my data can help you in your quest.
Sincerely,
Hija del Charro

Searching for information on Antonio Pantaleon or Don Antonio Gil Gutierrez

Hi everyone.

Looking for help in finding records on:
(1) Antonio Pantaleon &
(2) Don Antonio Gil Gutierrez (Antonio's owner and possible father).

I believe my ancestor that "started" the Gutierrez family is: Antonio Pantaleon, a slave of Don Antonio Gil Gutierrez and son of Maria Antonia (last name is not mentioned), also a slave. Antonio Panteleon's father is listed as "unknown."
(Fascinating)!

In this recorded:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XY1Y-5?i=133&wc=3J45-3TL%3…

Antonio Pantaleon is mentioned as marrying Anna Maria Placenia, daughter of Jossefa Ruiz and her father's name I can't make out on February 26, 1772

I believe Antonio Pantaleon changes his last name to Gutierrez because other records show his children with the Gutierrez surname. In this following recorded, their son Jose Maria Norato Gutierres Placiencia, christened 17 Feb 1787 at SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO,JALISCO,MEXICO reflects that change as follows:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBJP-JP5
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60329-1
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
GS Film number: 279422

BACKGROUND STORY:

Antonio and Anna Maria are the parents of Jose Maria Norato Gutierrez

Jose Maria Norato Gutierrez and Maria Caludia Gamez are the parents of Julian Gutierrez

Julian Gutierrez and Sabina Gutierrez are the parents of Jose Albino Gutierrez

Jose Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero are the parents of Jose Genovevo Gutierrez, my grandfather born January 3, 1884 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico per this record:

http://interactive.ancestry.com/60018/MM9.3.1_2FTH-1942-21159-22465-78/…

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Any help in Spanish or English would be greatly appreciated.
Good day to everyone!

--Mario Gutierrez

Registros Parroquiales 1648 - 1961 (includes Huejuquilla El Alto)

This "Registros Parroquiales 1648 - 1961" says it includes Huejuquilla El Alto.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/registros-parroquiales-1648-1961/oclc/866…

Says:

El item 3 del volumen 12 en el rollo no. 1506859 incluye partidas de Tabasco, que ahora se denomina Refugio, y de Huejuquilla el Alto, una localidad del estado de Jalisco

Is this online in familysearch.org?????

Defunciones Zacatecas, Zacatecas. 1683-1686

Hola a todos. Agradecería información acerca de opciones de consulta de DEFUNCIONES en la ciudad de Zacatecas entre 1683-1686. He tratado en familysearch pero no existen registros en línea. Estoy buscando la defunción de Nicolas de Ascarraga ó Nicolas Peres de Ascarraga. Si alguien tiene información se los agradecería.
Saludos.

Lopez de la Serda

Hi Everyone,
Lopez de la Cerda came up in a previous email and I want to ask if anyone
in the NR forum has any information on the grandparents of Phelipe Lopez De
La Serda Marin , who married Juan Perez de Frias Flores on May 29 1749
(vecinos de Rio Chico, Teocaltiche). I have Phelipe's parents listed as
Matheo Lopez de la Serda and Jacinta Marin.

Does anyone have information on Matheo and Jacinta's lineage?

Thanks and I look forward to your response.

Regards,
Juan Aguayo