Introduction.

Hello,

My name is Olga. I’m a new member, and so delighted to have been accepted into this group. In 2008, not knowing anything about my ancestry, other than the names of my grandparents, I decided to take advantage of the Ancestry.com free two-week membership. This ancestry journey has been so enlightening and interesting.

All these years later I have grown many branches of my tree in Zacatecas, Jalisco, and Aguascalientes. I still have brick walls in Fresnillo, Zacatecas with the names of DOBALI, SOLIS and VASQUEZ.

In recent years I often came across the postings of members of NR, which helped in my ancestry journey. I now look forward to having the opportunity to contribute to the journey of others.

Olga Juárez

los Rubalcava-Gallardo de San Juan de los Lagos, circa 1715-1725

Dear Primos:
i am stuck here, with the Rubalcava-Gallardo Family. i have Four [4] Baptismal Records, All from Lagos de San Juan & from Family Search. their Parents were: Francisco Rubalcava & Elena Gallardo. those Baptismal Records, of that era, Do Not mention the Grand-Parents. i am a descendant of Ma. Trinidad Velis-Rubalcava. i do have the Retoños Book, all Volumes, & believe it or not, this linage, are not mentioned.! when i saw that Ma. Trini was a Rubalcava, i went: that'za easy one.! Wrong. searched of course, the González de Rubalcava first & went through every variation, of that surname, to no avail. cannot find anything either, on this mysterious Elena Gallardo.? no Marriage Record, nothing. Their son: Joachin Vicente, is my Ancestor, Ma. Trini's Abuelo Materno. it is mentioned, in the Rubalcava Section of the Retoños Book, that "two offspring of unknown name, mentioned by his grandmother, Doña Beatriz López de Fuenllana; in her will, cited in the González de Rubalcava chapter." am wondering if this Francisco, is one of those children.? Any information, would be greatly appreciated. johann

Prieto, Valerie (Arroyo Ondo, Teocaltiche, JAL)

Dear Valerie,

Happy Father's Day and Welcome to nuestrosranchos. Here is some information for your tree. Hopefully these records will provide more clues that you can follow up on.

Terezo Prieto married Ma. Carmen Rubalcava on 07/Sep/1875 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

Rick A. Ricci

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Records:
Terezo Prieto
Spouse's Name Carmen Rubalcava
Event Date 07 Sep 1875
Event Place Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZXF-XMF : 16 July 2015), Terezo Prieto and Carmen Rubalcava, 07 Sep 1875; citing Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 226,734.

José Margarito Prieto
Gender Male
Christening Date 22 Oct 1892
Christening Place Nochistlán, Zacatecas, Mexico
Father's Name Tereso Prieto
Mother's Name Ma. Cármen Rubalcava
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8QL-S4P : 12 December 2014), Ma. Cármen Rubalcava in entry for José Margarito Prieto, 22 Oct 1892; citing Nochistlán, Zacatecas, Mexico, reference 358; FHL microfilm 226,687.

Encarnacion de Diaz land transfer dating 1854

I have a written property transfer from Josefa de Alva to Gregorio Mayagoitia. Document is dated April 2, 1854. Document is written by Francisco de Alba, Josefa's brother. Would anyone have information on their descendants? My father-in-law had a box of many old documents which I found after his death. I believe they are all land sales/transfers. All in Encarnacion de Diaz. Most are from the Soledad area. It is a treasure of documents that I have been trying to translate. Some of the handwriting is very difficult to read. All documents are from the early 1800's. One of the documents is a land transfer part of Hacienda Mariquita. Names in this document are Mariano de anda, Gregorio Mayogoitia, Jose Amaya, Refugio Lozano, Mauricio Lopez, Rosa Lozano, Ignacio Lomelin, Refugio Gutierrez, Juan Lozano. I was surprised to find that a witness was Felix de Anda (my great grandfather) My father-in-law was Salvador Romo Franco b. 1901 in La Soledad, rancho de Mariquita.
I do not know how or why he had these land grants.

Blas Sanchez and Desideria Carlos (y de Llanos)

Hello to all.

I haven't properly introduced myself to the community since I became a member a couple of months ago when I first started to build my family's tree. I guess I always prefer to get a good grasp of my ignorance on a subject before I start bombarding people with questions that could potentially be easily be answered with a simple search and/or a bit of elbow grease.

Up to a few months back, all I knew was the names of my grandparents and some of my great grandparents, but as it often happens when there's a death in the family, I suddenly got bitten by the genealogical bug and started poring through digital archives.

I ended up here at Nuestros Ranchos because my maternal grandfather who was born in Juanchorrey, Zacatecas in 1913 to Leonides Sanchez Nava and Francisca Fernandez Correa.

His paternal grandparents were Octaviano Sanchez Acevedo and Lorenza de Nava Sandoval.

Octaviano was son of Pablo Antonio Sanchez Carlos and Maria Nestora Acevedo Enriquez.Lorenza was daughter of Jose Manuel de Nava y Correa and Manuela Gregorio Sandoval Renteria.

Up to here (and way beyond on many of his lines) all good.

Problem is I have hit a wall on the side of Pablo Antonio's father: Blas Sanchez. I can't seem to find anything solid about his parents while there's plenty of information about the side of his wife Desideria Carlos, the daughter of Justo Antonio Carlos (de Godoy?) and Rita Laurena de Llanos y Valdez. I found two baptism records of two different Blas Sanchez. The race of one of them is listed as "coyote", which I doubt he was, and the other doesn't quite match the location even though is also in Zacatecas.

Does anybody have any information about Blas' parents?

Alternatively, how about any descendants of him and Desideria? And more specifically, any direct male descendants who inherited the last name Sanchez? I am particularly curious about my grandfather's paternal haplogroup. Unfortunately, my uncle, his only son, passed away last year and he had no male descendants.

I got tested recently on Ancestry, btw, so I have identified some distant cousins on my grandfather's side. Problem is, not many people build trees so it's hard to be sure exactly how we are related. Adding to the difficulty is that these tests are not yet available in Mexico, where most of my family still lives, and so I have no close relatives in my matches which would help me do some basic triangulation. That's why I uploaded my raw data file to GEDmatch and FamilyTree, but as you know, that takes a lot of labor and good luck.

My tree on Ancestry is public. I've managed to climb high on some of those Zacatecan branches (while resisting the urge to get carried away by the ancestry leaves/suggestions) and would be thrilled to collaborate on common ones. Drop me a message if you would like a link to my tree and/or compare kits on GEDmatch.

Cheers!

MARTINEZ/MARTIN/ MARTIN DEL CAMPO help Meson de Los sauces/Lagos de Moreno

Hello, so my paternal side is from Meson de Los sauces it seems. As far as I can get any info as most of the recent generations of family was born in Los Angeles, California.
I could find info that my paternal great grand father was actually born in Mexico.
My grandfather is:
Francisco Martinez Hernandez: Born; 7 OCT 1923 Pomona, Los Angeles, California D: 16 FEB 2014 Meson de Los sauces, Encarnacion de diaz, JAL
Celso Martin(ez) Franco: Born ABT: 1901 in Encarnacion de diaz, JAL
He married Maria De Jesus Hernandez: Born ABT: 1903

Celso Martin(ez) Franco’s parents MAY BE:
Francisco Martinez & ildefonsa FRANCO

Maria de Jesus Hernandez parents:
Jose Hernandez: Born ABT: 1875
Gerarda Huerta: Born ABT: 1866 D: 2 September 1949 Encarnacion de diaz, JAL
Marriage was in November 6, 1901 in Encarnacion de diaz JAL.

Any leads will greatly help. I’ve been stuck on this branch for 3 months since I started.

Familias compostelanas

Soy especialista en el área de Nayarit, concretamente Tepic, Xalisco, Compostela y Bahía de Banderas; incluyendo el jalisciense municipio de San Sebastián del Oeste. Me gustaría conocer gente que estudie esta área para intercambiar información y colaborar, puesto que no hay mucha información y es un campo amplio para nuevas investigaciones. Saludos a todos.

Reyes Family - mulatos from Sombrerete, Zacatecas in the 1700s

I'm not sure if I should post this in Genealogy Research or History, Culture and General Discussion:

I finally found my African roots. Reading the records I have traced my mulato ancestors to the Reyes Family out of Sombrerete - specifically "Real de Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico". This branch of my family seems to have intermarried with the Salas, C/S/Zervantes and Hernandes families from Pinos, Zacatecas and Mezquital, Durango.

Does anyone know anything about Africans in Zacatecas in the 1700s and early 1800s?

Reynoso family from jalostotitlan, jalisco

this is a repost from my original post

On my paternal side is the Reynoso line. My great grandfather is Nestor Reynoso born in Jalostotitlan in 1868. He married Maximina Padilla who was born in Jalostotitlan in 1871 and later married in Jalostotitlan in 1889. His father was Juan Reynoso who was born in Los Sauces (ranch about 15 kilometers outside of Jalostotitlan on the road to Teocaltiche) in 1842 and married Vicenta Sanchez in 1864. Vicenta was born in Lavor de Abalsa in 1846…I have seen the name of this ranch what could be misspelled in a couple of messages. Lavor de Abalsa is also a small ranch about 10 kilometers outside of Jalostotitlan on the road to Teocaltiche. I was fortunate in my last trip to Jalostotitlan in finding Nestor Reynosos baptism record. Nestor Reynoso’s baptism record indicates Juan Reynoso and Vicenta Sanchez as his parents and his paternal grandparents, Agaton Reynoso and Juana Gutierrez, as his godparents as well.

On the Padilla line, Maximina’s parents were Angel Padilla born in Lavor de Abalsa in 1835 and Francisca Ramirez born in 1846 and were married in 1867. Angel Padilla parents were Mariano Padilla and Dolores Martin married in Jalostotitlan in 1823. Mariano Padilla’s parents were Tomas Padilla and Honorata Gonzalez both born around the turn of the century (1800).

Estancia del Monte

Hello everyone, I’m just right to give up on researching a branch that motivated me to start with this hobby, I’ve gotten to around the year 1821 with Tomas Sanchez, son of Trinidad Sanchez and María del Carmen Sanchez,
In Tomas’s marriages that have been written in the parish books of Jilotlan de Los Dolores, it points out that Tomas is from Estancias del Monte Michoacan and his parents from Cotija Michoacan but later settled in Rio del Oro and in other documents in the ranch of San Pablo in the same area of el Rio del Oro. Does anyone in this forum have info of this so called Estancia del Monte or the origins of the Sanchez family last name in Cotija in the 1800s.
Hope to get news to continue on my research.

FamilySearch blue boxes on Images

Suddenly every image of the Tlaltenango baptisms 1888-1889 on FamilySearch have blue boxes, outlining and sometimes obscuring the text.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-4294-FZ?cc=1804458&wc=3PSF…

If you download the image, it is a clean image without the blue boxes, but I cannot find any way to view a clean image without the blue boxes online.

Familias Riso y Gascón de los Altos

Hola:

¿Alguno de ustedes sabe el origen de estas familias en los Altos de Jalisco?

Mi conexión con los Riso, me viene por Nicolasa Riso, esposa de Pedro Camarena, debieron haber casado antes de 1765 en Ayo el Chico, pero no he encontrado el acta matrimonial. En algunas actas de bautismo de sus hijos Nicolasa aparece como Riso Muños.

Por Gascón, mi vínculo es por parte de María Ignacia Gascón, esposa de José Manuel Sepúlveda Estrada, no he encontrado el acta de matrimonio pero en un acta de bautismo de su hija María Felipa Sepúlveda Gascón, bautizada el 31 de Mayo de 1803 en Arandas, aparecen el nombre de los abuelos. Dónde están escritos los padres de María Ignacia no se entiende bien el nombre de su padre y el apellido es Gascón y su madre viene como Catarina Gascón.

Creo que el origen de los Riso es italiano y Gascón me suena a un apellido francés.
¿Alguien podría darme algo de información?

De antemano muchas gracias.

Enrique Salvador Agraz

Greetings from a new member

Saludos!

My name is Antonio, I am a new member here but I have been observer of this group for quite some time. I started my genealogical journey and research in my teens and have significantly progressed with many great discoveries but also with perplexing road blocks. I look forward to contributing and acquiring knowledge from all the phenomenal members of this group.

My research extends to many regions.

Relevant to the group my greatest difficulty lies in the Encomienda de Jalpa area (San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco parish), San Juan de los Lagos, Tlalpujahua to name a few

My greatest success lies in Ciénega de Mata, Lagos de Moreno, Aguascalientes, Sierra de Pinos, Ayo el Chico, Teocaltiche, Nochistlán (as well as-but not pertaining to the geographical area of this group-Tlazazalca, Numarán, Chilchota in Michoacán and San Pedro Piedra Gorda and San Felipe in Guanajuato)

I have many unresolved branches/ancestors that I would love to have the group analyze and extract your awesome perspectives.

Stay well!

Rodolfo Medina Gutierrez

Welcome Rodolfo Medina Gutierrez to Nuestrosranchos. I am a fifth cousin through your paternal grandmother. Our closest relationships are through our Romo and Reynoso lines. You are more closely related to my wife’s cousins through your De la Torre Alvarez line.

Good luck in your research,
Rick A. Ricci

Why are we doing Genealogy

Jonathan,

What a great question to ask the group............I have enjoyed reading everyone's postings and the various reasons for beginning to do Genealogical research and the reasons for continuing to do research.

Thanks everyone for sharing so openly and honestly, it makes for a great book on Genealogy.

Now another question, is anyone in your family offended because you do family research and with the findings??
Meaning dark skeleton's in the family closet that may or may not have been intentional findings.

Thanks again to everyone, great reading.
Alicia

Slavery in Tlaltenango

I recently came across this Baptism entry in which the child is mentioned to be slave of Balthazar Correa.

-En la yga. de Tepichitlan en dose de dho mes y ano baptize y puse lo SS. Oleos y Chrisma a Jsea Rozalia, esclava de Dn. Balthazar Correa de nueve dias hija de Manuela, fue su Mna. Ju Gertrudis Segura y le adverti su oblig.n y parentesco y lo firme (firma ilegible)-

Does anyone know of other cases of slavery in Tlaltenango, Atolinga or in the region?

Does anyone know how to get documents to open in Aguascalientes Public Archive?

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know how to open the documents to view in this public archive of Aguascalientes? I want to look at a 3 page document of a esclavo that was bought by Fernando De La Campa y Cos in 1724. In the past, I did view it but I didn't save the documents. Now when I want to view it, it doesn't open.

To use Publica Archive of Aguascalientes:

http://sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx/

Usuario: sigue.publica

Clave: publica

Once you log in click on the "SGG Archivo Historico"

Then click the drop down menu of "Tipo Documental"

I chose the topic "Compraventa Esclavo"

And on pages 301 - 400 of 488 near the bottom under the head title "Contratantes" is the transaction by Fernando De La Campa y Coz

I clicked on that and it tries to open but never does. Before in the past it did, but now when I want to read that document in more detail it won't open.

I hope one of you can help out and thank you if you try to help.

Sevilla Renteria Familia

Does anyone have information on the Sevilla or Renteria family of Tecolotlan/Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico? Researching the lineage and am hitting a brick wall with a man named Jose Miguel Sevilla (Cebilla). Married 10FEB1841 to MA Ambrosia Garcia. Possible birth in the 1815-1820's.

Romo de Vivar in Aguascalientes

There were several men named Francisco Xavier Romo de Vivar in Aguascalientes in the early 1700's. My research is focused on the man that was married to Juana Dias Montanes de Sandi. I estimate he was born between 1700 and 1715. I've identified three individuals that appear to be the children of Francisco Xavier and Juana.Lazaro Salvador who was baptized in Aguascalientes Feb 26, 1748Antonia Leandra who was baptized in Aguascalientes April 6, 1742
Ana Maria who was married in Teocaltiche on Jan 22, 1753 (probably born around 1735).  I only have her marriage record.I believe, but cannot prove, that Francisco Xavier is the son of Nicolas Romo de Viva and Francisca Xaviera Gallardo.It is equally possible that Francisco Xavier is the son of Cristobal Romo de Vivar and and his first, Josefa Macias. Following her death Cristobal married Maria Munoz de la Barba.I've pretty much been able to rule out most other possibilities, but there may be someone I missed that could be his father.I have looked though most marriage and Informacion Matrimonial records looking for some document that confirms the names of the parents of Francisco Xavier (again keeping in mind there are others by this name that are not of the right age). So far no luck.If anyone has come across any record that can aid me in my research please let me know.Thanks.