New batch numbers for Ojuelos, Jalisco parish records

The pages on pages on Nuestrosranchos which have the LDS film numbers and batch numbers make it easy to add and edit information, so I recently added half a dozen new batches and associated films to the page for OJuelos.

Also, for those researching the Ojuelos area, the LDS films (and batch numbers) for on the Nuestrosranchos Ojuelos page contain entries from three different churches:
* Señor San José, in Ojuelos, on films numbered 063xxxx and 0640xxx (with xxx up to 140);
* Inmaculada Concepción, in Ciénega de Mata, on films 0640149 to 0641019; and
* Ledesma, Ojuelos (don't know the name of the church), on films 0641027 to 0641037 and films 0641059 and 0641060.

If you know about any other churches in the Ojuelos area which have had their records filmed by the LDS, I'd appreciate it if you would let me know.

The films 0639963, 0640149, 0640150, 0640151, & 0640170 are on permanent loan at the local Family History center and I will gladly do lookups if you know the date to within a year or so, or if there's an index for your record.

- Bert

Indexacion: Aguascalientes

Si todavia hay interes en el proyecto de indexacion ya pueden bajar
batches de Aguascalientes.

If there still is interest in the indexing project you can download
batches on Aguascalientes

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

jauregui

estoll tratando de encontrar los abuelos paternos i maternos de maria de la trinidad xaure yanes asi esta escrito xaure o jauregui nacio 1 febrero 1801 batch no C06233 del 1800 al 1804 source call; no 0226657 cualquier alluda que me puedan dar sera agradesida otra cosa en matrimonios all una pagina en donde puedo mirar el nombre de los padres de los 2 lados que tengo que aser para ver eso en todas las paginas RAFAEL JAUREGUI jaureraf@yahoo.com

batch numbers help

I'm sure this may seem to be a silly question, but...Can someone please explain why an individual is listed three times on family search with the same film number on all three entries, but two different batch numbers.  Also, two of the entries have reference numbers, but they too, are different.  What exactly do the referernce numbers refer to?  I'm hoping the information/explanation can help tear down a brick wall in my research.
Thanks so much for your help.   Alice

historical maps

i just found a great site davidrumsey.com. it has a lot of great historical maps to look at or buy. i am researching velasco in aguascalientes and one of the maps at this site shows a town of velasco in aguascalientes in 1800's. has anyone heard of this town?

new member introduction

Hello.
My name is Angelina and as a new member I want to take this
opportunity to introduce myself. My interest in genealogy started when
my father passed away and I became painfully aware that I knew very
little of my family lineage. I was elated to find that this site
existed since the oral history that I have managed to collect all
seems to end in Jalisco in the mid to late 1800's. I am, most
definitely, an amateur and will need your assistance in my attempt to
find my lineage.

Here we go .... the surnames I'm interested in are: Chavez, Rodriguez,
Urzua, Moreno, Padilla, Munoz, Carrillo, Silva

Specifically, information on Norberto Chavez: born about 1870, since
his first child was born in Union de Guadalupe, Jalisco, I assume he
was born somewhere in Los Altos de Jalisco.

He married Basilia Rodriguez Urzua around 1892. They had a son, Blas
Chavez Rodriguez, born on Feb. 3, 1893 in Union de Guadalupe, Jalisco,
Mexico

Family lore has it that Norberto belonged to a rich family and that he
was disinherited when he married Basilia Rodriguez Urzua. - I would
appreciate any info on Basilia as well.

I'm also interested in:
Juan Moreno & Atanacia Padilla Munoz. They had a middle child, Aurelia
Moreno Padilla, born in 1901 in San Julian, Jalisco ? so I assume we
are looking for birth dates between 1870 & 1880 or a marriage around
1895 in the areas surrounding San Julian. They had several children, I
believe the oldest was also named Juan.

Antonio Santiago Silva Vargas? born around 1840's ? Tonila, Jalisco ?
he worked on the Carrillo Hacienda, near Tonila ? and had a daughter
named Statislaw (or Estanislao) Silva born between 1865-1870

Eufemio Carrillo ? born around 1860, his family owned a hacienda in or
around Tonila, Jalisco. He married a woman named Lucia between
1880-1890 - their children were Francisco, Aureliano, Jesus.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you may provide.
-Angelina-

----Espanol------

Hola.
Esta es la primera vez que escribo y quiero tomar la oportunidad para
presentarme. Me llamo Angelina y mi familia tiene raices en Jalisco.
Tome interes en genologia cuando murio mi padre y me di cuenta que
conozco muy poco de mi familia. Me dio much gusto encontrar este sitio
porque todos los datos que he colectado terminan en Jalisco y veo que
voy a necesitar ayuda con este rompecabezas.

Tengo interes in los apellidos:
Chavez, Rodriguez, Urzua, Moreno, Padilla, Munoz, Carrillo, Silva

Especificamente information sobre Norberto Chavez: nacio por el ano 1870.
En el ano 1893 se encontro en la Union de Guadalupe, Jalisco donde
nacio su unico hijo.

Se caso con Basilia Rodriguez Urzua por el ano 1892. Tuvieron un hijo,
Blas Chavez Rodriguez, nacio Feb. 3, 1893 en la Union de Guadalupe,
Jalisco, Mexico

Segun contaba mi abuelo, Norberto era de una familia de hacendados.
Cuando Norberto desobedesio su padre y se caso con Basilia, fue
desheredado. - Tambien me gustaria saber de la familia de Basilia.

Otros nombres de interes:
Juan Moreno & Atanacia Padilla Munoz. Nacidos entre los anos 1870 y
1880 en los alrededores de San Julian, Jalisco. Tuvieron varios hijos,
creo que el mayor tambien se llamaba Juan. Una de las hijas se llamaba
Aurelia Moreno Padilla, nacio en San Julian, Jalisco en el ano 1901

Antonio Santiago Silva ? nacio por el ano 1840 ? Tonila, Jalisco ?
Trabajo en la hacienda de los Carrillo que se encontraba cerca de
Tonila. - Tuvo una hija llamada Statislaw (Estanislao) Silva que
nacio en Tonila por los anos 1865-1870.

Eufemio Carrillo ? nacio por el ano 1860 en Tonila o Guadalajara, hijo
del dueno de la hacienda de los Carrillo en Tonila. Se caso con un
mujer llamada Lucia entre los anos 1880-1890 - tuvieron tres hijos -
Francisco, Aureliano, y Jesus.

Gracias por cualquier datos que me puedan dar.
-Angelina-

Jaliscan olives?

I hope my colleagues here at Nuestros Ranchos will overlook the fact that
this email is potentially about Jaliscan food rather than genealogy. I am
visiting my parents in So. CA, after the 4/30 conference in Rancho
Cucamonga. We were again bemoaning the loss of my maternal grandfather's
recipe (unwritten) to cure olives when my parents happened to mention for
the very first time that he had learned to cure olives from my paternal
grandfather, my Jaliscan grandfather. Now, this grandfather may have
learned it between here and Jalisco (he worked in the Yucatan and lived and
worked in Texas before arriving in CA about 1928. But if is an Jaliscan
recipe, I would love it if someone would share it. These olives were mild,
delicious green olives. I know the taste had something to do with the
proportion of lye, the type of cask, and the curing time, and that they
would be taste-tested daily after a certain amount of time. I've sampled a
variety of olives in Spain and they are nothing like my grandfathers'. Can
anyone help?

Espero que mis compadres del Nuestros Ranchos me discupla que esta
comunicacion potencialmente tenga que ver con comidas jalisciense y no de
genealogia. Estoy visitando mis padres aqui en el Sur de California despues
que asiste la conferencia de 30/4 en Rancho Cucamonga. Estabamos otra vez
lamentando la perdida de la receta para curar las aceitunas de mi abuelo
maternal cuando me dijeron por la primera vez que fue mi abuelo paternal, mi
abuelo jalisciense, que se la enseno a mi otro abuelo. Puede ser este
abuelo se la apendio entre Jalisco y California, desde que el trabajaba en
la Yucatan y en Tejas antes que llegaba a California en 1928. Pero si es
una receta jalisciense, me alegro muchisimo si alguien me la puede
compartir. Las aceitunas eran leve y sabrosas. Se que tiene que ver con la
proporcion de lejia, el tipo del barril, el tiempo para curar y que el las
probo diariamente despues de una cantidad de dias. He probado una variedad
de aceitunas en espana, y nada son como las de mis abuelos. Alguien me
puede ayudar?

Entierros (Burials) Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico Year 1719 - 1761

I was browsing through the microfilm of entierros de Huejuquilla, Jalisco, Mexico for the years 1719 - 1761. I found something interesting if any of you can help me decipher it.

This paragraph is from the entierros and it mentions starts out by talking about the Pueblo of San Diego De Huejuquilla year 1728. San Diego is not the pueblo. It is the name of the parish of the pueblo of Huejuquilla. Also it makes references to Mexico (Mexico in the year 1728), and also about provinces of Nayarit, Coahuila, Californias and Thexas (Texas) Del Consejo. Texas mentioned in the year 1728.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/439/huejuquilla1728.jpg

Here is another the cover of the book of entierros 1719 - 1761:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2438/huejuquilla17191761.jpg

And another page of notes in the book that was near the first link mentioned above:

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6100/huejuquilla1726.jpg

In our village of Huejuquilla, the original building of the Parish of San Diego still stands. The newer building was built in another location of the town.

Here is a picture of the original Parish of San Diego:

http://photos.huejuquilla.mobi/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=299270

And the new building of the Parish of San Diego:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sh.sbam/RinconesDeMiPueblo#5224084030790922…

Bartholome Rendon=Maria Macias Valades

I am seeking infomration about this couple. They are my maternal 6th great grandparents. They were married 11 Feb 1710 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes. Bartholome was buried 07 Jun 1728 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalinetes. To date, I have discovered three children: Maria Antonia, Marina, and Joaquin, who was married to Maria Theresa de Uyoa.

Thank you.

Amigos de la historia de Altos de Jalisco

Has anyone ever heard of a group called "Amigos de la historia de Altos
de Jalisco"

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Perez v. Peres: "z" v. "s"

a non member of the group sent this message in and I would like to send
him any comments the group might offer:

Joseph,
I'm noticing that as I dig into the 1800s that names like perez, cruz,
gonzalez are appearing as peres, crus, gonzales.
I'm actually per the Mexican 1930s Census a Peres, not a Perez. Have
you encountered this? Any light to shed? Is there a sephardic or
portuguese connection?
Thanks!
Joel

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joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Juan Antonio Marquez

Juan Antonio Marquez son of Miguel Marquez y Matiana de Gamboa

if you happen to have this Marquez line from the approximate 1732 time
period in Sauz de Los Marquez here is the IM:

https://www.familysearch.org

* Mexico, Catholic Church Records
* Zacatecas
* Villanueva
* San Judas Tadeo
* Información matrimonial 1731-1734,1740-1741
* Image of 454 of 546

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

NGGS Conference in SoCal

Dear NGGS:
Wishing you a wonderful conference. I hope all attendees will enjoy it. Wish I was there.
I look forward to reading reports from the attendees and organizers.

Natalie C. Coleman

PS - I consider Cucamonga my stomping grounds, as I lived there with an aunt, when I was in H.S. (Chaffey) and Jr. College, in a house my grandfather had purchased in the 1930's. My grandfather and father had at one time worked for the Italian Vineyard Co, in Guasti, CA. The Ontario International Airport now sits on the land that once were grape vineyards.

Tomas Valdes, Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico

Hello Everyone, I have just recently started researching my ancestry. So happy to find this site so specific to the area I'm researching. I have been trying to move passed my gr gr grandfather Tomas Valdes, b. 1835 in "Jerez, y vecino de los Cuervos" according to his marriage documents. Also, according to the marriage documents he was "hijo ligitimo de Jose Maria Valdes y Estefana Muro". However, on his first child's baptism record his father is listed as Teodoro Valdes and Maria Varela. Later baptism records for his children show Jose Maria as his father again. I have not been able to find any birth or baptism records on Tomas Valdes to confirm who his father was. Have looked in Family Search's records but no success. I would appreciate any help in this search!

Thanks

Cuquio Families

>
> Hi Mickey,

It will be nice to see you again at the Conference. Thanks for sharing
Maestra Duron's info with me. I'll have my charts with me too.

Maria

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:27:26 -0400 (EDT)
> From: MMG8938@aol.com
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cuquio families/was Diego Ruiz
> Message-ID: <5b9f9.6a3724aa.3aea2a8d@aol.com>
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>
> Maria
> When I visited Martha Duron in Aguascalientes she gave me a copy of some
> info on Cuquio, Jalisco. It is small - I will take it with me to Calif
> perhaps you will have time to look at it.
> Mickey
>
>
>

Cuquio families/was Diego Ruiz

Hello Claudia and Raquel,

I've been reading your posts and checking all the names against my database
since I am also researching the same surnames for families in Cuquio.
Unfortunately, I haven't connected any individuals, but I'll bet we will
connect these families if we go back one or more generations back.

I have an 8th great-grandfather named Juan Perez Ynfante married to
Magdalena Lopez on 3 May 1682 in Cuquio, Jalisco. I found the following
five children of this couple:

1. Thomasa (my 7th great-grandmother)
2. Juana, baptized on 25 Jun 1686 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas
3. Melchor
4. Sebastiana
5. Maria Lugarda, baptized on 13 Jun 1713 in Cuquio, Jalisco

My 7th great-grandmother Thomasa Perez Ynfante married Marcos Mancilla on
16 Feb 1713 in Cuquio, Jalisco. I have found the following children of this
couple:

1. Maria Gertrudis, baptized 29 Jul 1714 in Cuquio, Jalisco
2. Juan Manuel, baptized on 5 Jul 1721 in Cuquio, Jalisco
3. Jacinta, baptized 24 Sep 1727 in Cuquio, Jalisco

Let me know if any of these individuals connect with yours. I will be at
the Conference in Rancho Cucamonga this weekend. Let's chat then.

Maria Cortez
Sacramento, CA

> From: claudiacasillas@gmail.com
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Diego Ruiz / Cayetano Ruiz
> Message-ID:
> &nid=19460&pid=20615&cid=20617&uid=2336&tid=
> 1&9530c4a59e02b1788fde2644fbecc5ea@www.nuestrosranchos.org>
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>
> Hi Raquel,
> Here is what I have (only tracking my lines' siblings)...
>
> Diego (I) Ruiz & Ana Gonzalez had the following children:
> 1) Blas, bap. in Cuquio on 06 Feb 1676
> 2) Cayetano, b. abt. 1689 (no bap. rec found)
> 3) Diego Ruiz (II), bap. in Cuquio on 30 Sep 1691
>
> -BLAS Ruiz married Catarina Lisarde in Cuquio on 23 Jan 1718
>
> -CAYETANO (I) Ruiz married twice - i) Juana Rubalcava in Cuquio on 4 Feb
> 1712, and ii) Ana Lugarda Mercado in Nochistlan on 15 Feb 1733, their
> padrinos were Salvador Gutierres & Catarina de Vargas, su muger
>
> -DIEGO (II) Ruiz was baptized in Cuquio on 30 Sep 1691
>
> -------------------------------------------
> CAYETANO (I) Ruiz & Juana Rubalcava had:
> 1) Diego (III), bap. in Cuquio on 13 Nov 1712
> 2) Pedro, bap. in Cuquio on 18 Jun 1716
> 3) Eusebia, bap. in Cuquio on 22 Jul 1719
> 4) Jordian, bap. in Cuquio on 04 Jun 1722
> 5) Cayetano (II), bap in Cuquio on 05 Aug 1725 - m. Estefana de Loza in
> Cuquio on 04 Feb 1712
> 6) Julio Antonio, bap. in Cuquio on 02 May 1731
>
> CAYETANO (I) Ruiz & Ana Lugarda Mercado had:
> 7) Ana Jose, married Francisco Yanez in Cuquio on 25 Feb 1754
> 8) Juan Jose Polonio, bap. in Cuquio on 23 Feb 1749, m. Maria Sandoval in
> Yahualica on 09 May 1791
> 9) Nemecia, bap. in Cuquio on 14 Nov 1751, m. Pedro Lisarde in Cuquio on 31
> Jan 1770
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> NOTES ON YOUR PADRINOS LIST:
> A) What is the date of the LUGARDA MERCADO as madrina? Could be same who
> was Cayetano (I)'s 2nd wife
>
> B) Cayetano de Rubalcava could be an aka for Cayetano Ruiz (II), who was
> the son of Cayetano (I) and Juana Robalcava ...if the dates match, see #5
> above
>
> C) I am certain that Cayetano Ruiz & Anna Mercado padrinos are Cayetano (I)
> and his second wife ...if the dates match
>
> D) RE: Perez: All of my Perez who originate in Cuquio are Perez-Infante, so
> may want to look under Infante
>
> A common thread I found is that my Ruiz's often married with Lisarde
> (Elizalde), Plasencia, Sandoval and Mercado.
>
>
>

Army records

Hello all, is there anyone out there that would know where I can gind Mexican army records?? I am trying to research my great great grandfather and he was a Mexican soldier. Thanks, Lorenzo.

Méndez-Hidalgo

Castellano luego Ingles
Spanish then English

domingo, 24 de abril de 2011

Estimado compañeros busco datos sobre la familia Méndez-Hidalgo es mi entendimiento que su solar novohispano era en San Luis Potosí de ahí algunas ramas poblaron Zacatecas (sitios como Pinos, Fresnillo, Zacatecas) y una rama pobló Los Altos de Jalisco.

Mis séptimos bisabuelos eran Joseph Nolasco Fernández de Villalpando y María Manuela Ménedez-Hidalgo tuvieron sus hijos en Sierra de Pinos la primera que he encontrado fue bautizada el 24 de febrero de 1751. No encuentro más de estos Méndez Hidalgos por lo tanto sospecho que llegaron de otro lugar, principalmente de San Luis Potosi ya que esta a los límites de Sierra de Pinos. Tendré que buscar el matrimonio la cual sería probable en Sierra de Pinos.

La rama de Los Altos de Jalisco se encuentra con Cristóbal Méndez-Hidalgo y su esposa Catalina de Mendoza Acuña quien bautizaron su hija Juana el 28 de julio de 1615 en Santa María de los Lagos. No sé si éste llegó de San Luis Potosí o como llegó a Los Altos de Jalisco.

Gracias antemano,
Daniel Méndez Camino

Sunday, 24 of April 2011

I’m looking for information regardina the Méndez-Hidalgo family, my understanding is they originated in San Luis Potosi from there several branches moved into Zacatecas and Los Altos de Jalisco.

My seventh great grandparents were Joseph Nolasco Fernández de Villalpando and María Manuela Méndez-Hidalgo. They had several kids in Sierra de Pinos, the first that I found was baptized 24 Feb 1751. I have not been able to find any more on these Méndez Hidalgo just clues. I suspect Manuela Méndez Hidalgo arrived from somewhere else not Sierra de Pinos probably San Luis Potosí. I still need to find a marriage record in Sierra de Pinos.

The branch that went to Los Altos de Jalisco began with Cristóbal Méndez-Hidalgo and his wife Catlaina de Mendoza Acuña who baptized their daughter Juana 28 Jul 1615 in Santa María de los Lagos. I’m not sure if he arrived from San Luis Potosí

Thanks before hand,
Daniel Méndez Camino

Introduction and research interest: PAREDES & others in Ojuelos and Ciénega de Mata

My surnames in JALISCO: ESPARZA, GARCIA, HERNANDEZ, LIRA (de LIRA), LOPES, MARTINES, ORTIZ, PAREDES (occasionally spelled as PADERES), de la ROSA, & TORRES

My name is Bert PAREDES and I'm researching the ancestors of my paternal great grandfather, Juan PAREDES, who was born in Ojuelos, Jalisco in 1862 and came to Texas in 1885. While I just recently joined this group and posted my Ahnentafel and GEDCOM here, I've been researching my PAREDES and associated lines for several years. My specific research targets in Jalisco are:

Joseph Antonio PAREDES & Maria Antonia MARTINES
Earliest record: baptism of daughter Maria Casilda, 21 April 1762, Ciénega de Mata, Jalisco, Mexico
Had two other known children: José Gregorio in 1762 & Maria Caesaria in 1764.
>> Looking for marriage or baptism records for this couple, and any info on their parents.

Bartoleme ESPARZA & Petronila (or Petra) GARCIA, married 8 May 1731, Ciénega de Mata, Jalisco, Mexico
Earliest record: 1731 marriage; have 10 children baptised in Ciénega de Mata from 1732 to 1756.
Possible match: Ciénega de Mata, 27 Mar 1715 baptism of Petronila GARSIA LOPES, daughter of Antonio GARSIA & Nicolas LOPES.
>> Looking for baptism records and any info on the parents of this couple.

Maria Josepha Carolina Rosa LIRA (or de LIRA), wife of Nicolas ESPARZA (son of Bartolome & Petronila), married 1761 in Ciénega de Mata, four known children from 1765 to 1774. Her daughter Maria Ynes, born in 1765, is listed in her 1787 marriage record with the birthplace of "Puesto de Carrasco," which I've been unable to find on any map.
Earliest record: baptism on 10 Dec 1743 in Ciénega de Mata.
>> Looking for info on parents, listed in her baptism & marriage records as Joseph DE LA ROSA & Maria Gertrudis de LIRA.

Maria Gregoria de los Dolores HERNANDEZ, married 11 Feb 1812 in Ojuelos to José Regino PAREDES. Three known children from 1713 to 1824.
Earliest record: baptism on 18 Mar 1793 in Ciénega de Mata.
>> Looking for info on her parents, named in her baptism & marriage records as Pedro José HERNANDEZ & Barbara Francisca LOPEZ

Yrinea ORTIZ, born about 1824, wife of José Paulino PAREDES. Four known children from 1848 to 1862.
Earliest record: marriage on 17 OCT 1841 at Señor San José in Ojuelos.
>> Looking for her baptism record and any info on her parents, named in her marriage record as Rafael ORTIZ & Maria Thomasa TORRES. Six other children of this couple were found from 1823 to 1838, with baptism records in Ciénega de Mata, except the last two (1835 & 1838) who were baptized in Ojuelos. The earliest sibling baptisms are 1823 & 1825 in Ciénega de Mata, but Yrinea's is missing. Also, in San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, there is a 21 Jun 1844 baptism record for Manuel E Ysmael ORTIZ, with parents named as Rafael ORTIZ & Tomasa TORRES, which might be the same couple.

Thank you in advance for any information you might be able to share. If I can be of any help to you, please let me know.

Thank you & muchos gracias,

- Bert Paredes
Littleton, Colorado, USA
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A todos ustedes: salud, amor y dinero y la tiempo para gustarlos.
To all of you: health, love, and money, and the time to savor them.

Dwelling Structure Of Huejuquilla, Jalisco same as Galicia, Spain?

Two pictures of dwellings.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1293/huthuejuquilla.jpg
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4937/hutgaliciaspain.jpg

First picture is a hut in Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.
Second picture is a hut with similar design in Galicia, Spain

Note that the state of Jalisco in Mexico's old name is "Nueva Galicia" New Galicia.

But could that type of dwelling in Huejuquilla get its origins from the Europe settlers from Spain that came to Huejuquilla back during the time of the Spanish?

Happy Easter

I just wanted to wish everyone in the group Happy Easter. And good luck on finding your ancsstors.

Quiero decir a todos que tienen un pascua muy feliz. Y buena suerte en encontrando sus ancestros.

Jonathan