Nuestros Ranchos Site

Jonathan......thanks for providing the website on George Ryskamp's
interview. I went to it and thoroughly enjoyed listening to him. He
touched on some of the topics he discussed at the Hispanic Conference on Oct
14th. Again, thanks for sending the website!

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of mexicanfhr
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:15 PM
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] George Ryskamp Interview

For those of you who are interested, at http://www.rootstelevision.com/
there is a interview of George Ryskamp, on Hispanic Roots. The interview
has 4 parts.

Jonathan

Emilie, Wow! What a tour de force! Thank you so much. I know others appreciate it, too. Alice

--- auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com wrote:

From: "Emilie Garcia"
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] For Alice BB - Interpretation of Tomas' Message
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:34:49 -0700

Alice,

Below is the interpretation of Tomas Alejandro's message; I cannot call it a translation because I am not fluent in Spanish as are Tomas, Arturo, etc.

Emilie
Hi, Ricardo,

It is a great pleasure that you wrote to me and to know that we share the same interests in genealogy and in our dear Pueblo el Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco.

You tell me that you weren't born there. Tell me where you were born, where you live, and what you are involved in at the moment.

Thanks also for the genealogy you found; I think it is the one I sent myself to a world genealogy project about 6 or 7 years ago, that they present to you as a project not costing anything and that will be available publicly. I sent them what I had investigated up to that time, with great hopes that in truth it was a database open to the public, but it appeared that that was not possible and always there is that economic interest on their part, and all that information I sent (and I am sure they did this also with others) now appears in a private database and if you want to access it, you have to pay, with the respect that they take advantage of my trust and that of others in order to make themselves rich. I hope that at least they have the decency to give me credit for the information as the author of the research and the submission of that information. Maybe you can tell me, since it appears you paid for the information, I hope that at least they give me a mention, al
though I
have no knowledge of the commercial aspects, since I sent them the information with the hope that they were a public site and that anyone could consult and contribute to a world-wide genealogical database.

Exactly what is that database that you can access, where you say they have lots of information about Los Altos de Jalisco and how much does it cost to access it?

I am sending a copy of this e-mail to Monica Lynn Gonzales Ponce the webmaster of Valle de Guadalupe.com, to which I give thanks also for contacting me and putting me in touch with you. How nice that there exist several sites dedicated to El Valle de Guadalupe.

With respect to my parentage from Jose Isavel Villegas Franco and his sons Rigoberto and Cornelio, I wish to tell you that he is my cousin in the second degree, and his sons would be my nephews, since the father of Jose Isabel was the deceased Zeferino Villegas Gomez, first cousin of my father, and the father of Zeferino was my great uncle Jose Blas Villegas Navarro, brother of my grandfather Francisco. I do not have the pleasure of knowing Jose Isavel and his sons and I would like very much to know them, and get their information to complete my genealogy. I don't know if you can give me the information in order for me to contact them. It is strange that Jose Isabel is my cousin since he was born in 1938; he is almost the same age as my father who was born in 1932, but that is the way it is. There are many members of the Villegas family whose surname is Villegas Franco since three sons of my great uncle Blas Villegas are: Zeferino, Marcelino and Jose Luis. They marrie
d three
sisters: Simona, Mariana, and Elisea Franco Gomez, and from what I have heard (I don't have all his genealogy) they were very prolific marital unions, since each had a minimum of twelve children. In general, all the children of my uncle Blas (whose first marriage to Mariana Gomez resulted in 8 sons and not one daughter, a good thing for the continuation of the surname Villegas), had many children and descendants; like I said, all had a minimum of 12 children.

For certain I have doubts that I would like to resolve, and I would like to see if you or someone else reading this can help me. I have not found all the baptism records for the brothers of my uncle Francisco; I want to one day go to the parish of the Capilla de Guadalupe, that has recently been made a municipality in Jalisco, and I have to do it directly because shamefully the Parish of the Capilla de Guadalupe and of the Canadas de Obregon have not been microfilmed by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), thus they are not available in the Family History Centers.

My great-grandfather Tomas Villegas Flores (in whose honor they named my father and I was named for both of them) appears to have baptized his children in the Capilla de Guadalupe, since it appears it was closer than El Terrero and closer than La Llave where he lived, so say my father and his brothers. It seems my great-grandparents Tomas Villegas and Paula Navarro had 18 or 19 children; this number seems a little exaggerated to me and I was told of the following children: Jose Blas, Modesto, Jose, Antonio, Regino, Francisco, Maria, Isabel, Merced, Francisca, Serapia all that my father and his brothers know of and mention. I also have found the baptism records of Jose Tereso de Jesus who was baptized the 15th of October of 1873 in the Capilla de Gadalupe, 5 months after the marriage of my great-grandparents Tomas and Paula, and I deduce that this marriage was one of urgency since my great-grandmother was four months pregnant when they married. The godparents of this fir
st child
were my great-great-grandparents Jose Felix Navarro Bandin and his wife Guillerma Franco Gomez, parents of Paula. It seems this first child died as an infant, and I still have to find his death record. I also found the birth record of Maximiano on the 29th of May, 1881, who also seems to have died in infancy, thus I only have references for 13 children, and it is correct that my father and uncles say that references to 5 or 6 others are missing.

I also would like to solve the mystery that at the minimum three of the brothers, Jose, Regino and Antonio Vellegas Navarro left to work and live in the United States in the decade of the 1920s approximately, and since then nothing was known of them, nor where they went to live, nor how many children they had, nor when they died, nothing, absolutely nothing, so far away from their family and the land that gave them birth, and that is another of my anxieties to know what happened to these three uncles, where they lived and died in the United States and if they have descendants so I can contact them. Perhaps you or someone who reads this can tell me how to find out the destiny of these three great-uncles in the United States.

Later I will send the old photos, inherited from my grandmother Mucia Gutierrez Ramirez de Villagas so that they can be seen publicly to see if someone recognizes them and can identify the people in the photos.

You also tell me that you have several books on genealogy. Could you give me the titles of the books you have? I want to tell you that for several months I have been a member of the group and site Genealogia, which initially was dedicated to the genealogy of Northern Mexico, principally Nuevo Leon, but has now been extended to include all the regions. The website is: http://www.genealogia.org.mx and it would be an honor to have you join the discussion forum. God willing you will become a member and we can count on your amiable presence and knowledge. Through this forum I found out that Dr. Don Marinao Gonzalez Leal, great historian and genealogist, which you must know about, now uses the internet and he is subscribed to the group Genealogia Mexico on Yahoo, to which I recently subscribed in order to contact Don Mariano and which I tell you about in case you want to subscribe. The link is the following: http://mx.groups.yahoo.com/group/genmex/

Greetings from Guadalajara; I await your response:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

Emilie,
A translation would be welcome not only by Linda and myself, but I suspect by many others. While I am completely bilingual, I am by no means biliterate on an academic level. My first language and education through Master's Degree is in English. When I come across long messages in Spanish, I'm sure I miss important information because I don't have the time/patience with the formalities and flowery language to refer to a dictionary, and only scan for relevant names and places. Again, a to the point translation would be welcome. Alice

--- auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com wrote:

From: "Emilie Garcia"
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Babelfish Translation
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:37:00 -0700

Linda,

I think there are some services where you can copy and paste what you want translated, and they will have a trained translator do an exact translation in good proper English, but you have to wait for them to get back to you. Some of them also want to charge you for the service.

I don't speak Spanish myself (can't think fast enough on my feet to respond), but I do pretty good in reading it and other languages like French, Italian, Portuguese which are similar. I do need to use the English-Spanish dictionary for the occasional word. You might also e-mail Tomas Alejandro and ask him to send you privately an English translation. I have seen the messages he posted to the genealogy message boards in English, and they were very good, probably better than I can post them in Spanish. (Te das cuenta, Tomas Alejandro?) He apologizes for his English, but he doesn't need to.

He is highly educated, and I notice that like most educated people in Mexico he takes 10 words to say what a less educated person would say in less. Anyway, that is the way it sounds to me. His style is highly formal, as it is amongst most proper users of the Castellan language in Mexico. It is a very flowery language, full of proper introductions, taking leave, compliments, etc. We Americans are very blunt and terse by comparison. I was once told by our Mexican translator at work that we Mexican-Americans were very rude, that we would walk in an exam room and not introduce ourselves, shake hands, or not make small talk to put the patient at ease, etc. Americans don't do that. In Mexico, the various classes are very polite to each other, I think that is the way they keep their distance, by being very formal. I hope I don't get any stink here; it is just my opinion.

I will send a private e-mail to you with my interpretation (not a literal translation) of what Tomas Alejandro said in his e-mail, and it won't be perfect, but it will be an enormous improvement over Babelfish, which I never use due to the substitutions of words that don't make any sense. I am willing to interpret for you anytime you wish. And you are not illiterate, like you said.

Saludos desde Port Orchard, Washington,

Emilie

----- Original Message -----
From: Linda R Romero
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] General Digest, Vol 9, Issue 17

I have tried Babelfish translations and as an example I have come up
with the following translation of the message below. Does anyone
have a better method of translating? This loses me. I'm sure no one
is talking about a tapeworm.

Hello Ricardo: It is an enormous taste that you write to me and
knowledge that we share such I interest, on gelealogia familiar and
our beloved town the Valley of Guadalupe, Jalisco. You say that you
were not born alli like I, cuentame to me where you were born and in
where you live and to that you dedicate yourself at the moment.
Thanks also for genealogiua that you found, apparently are what the
project of arbol commands to i myself to the a genealogico world-
wide, does or like 6 or 7 a?os, that you raises it as if outside a
project outside economico interest and which is going to be available
publicamente, I send to them what tapeworm investigated in that time,
with great ilusion of which in truth it was an open data base
publicamente, but so seems that that is not possible and the
economico interest is always followed, and all those data that
command (and surely asi did it with much but people) now estan in a
private data base and if you want to accede to her you must pay, with
the due respect which little mmmm, take advantage of the good faith
mia and of other people to become rich, I hope that although it is
have the desencia to give to my data like author of the investigation
and envio of those data, you...

Please, a little help for the illiterate.

Linda

Linda:

I can see where your frustration trying to read the botched translation arises. A tenia (without the accent on the I) is a tapeworm where ten'ia (with the accent) is the imperfect first person for "have" as in "I sent all that I had investigated at that time".

I tried doing the translation in Google translator and got pretty similar results.

I wish there was something more that we could do to make the site bilingual but as far as free resources, I think we are tapped out with those imperfect online translators.

Glad to help if it is not too difficult, I am not too familiar with the site yet.
Gilbert Paez

I can help translate

Enrique

----- Original Message ----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:18:30 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Explanation of Volunteer Jobs

Well I asked for three more volunteers truthfully wanted to test the
water to see who might respond. Right now I'm working with three
volunteers on the most important needs I have:

Kitty Cortez (giving periodical notices to new members)
Jose Humberto Suarez Villarreal (evaluating who has submitted
genealogies in the "members genealogies" area)
Alicia Carrillo (Spam Control)

here are some jobs that I can use occassional help with:

1) I could use help with creating folders for new members and adding
their genealogies when they submit them (occasional opportunities). This
might not be possible with a normal account. I'll see.

2) I could use the help of someone making a master list of everyone who
has submitted a gedcom in alphabetical order by their name AND Username
if this is possible.

3) I could use some help of someone working on going through the links
area and checking for dead links AND learning how to add links using the
Drupal system (we'll need a primer with Arturo showing the way on this
one): this one would be called: Link Master

4) I could use some help translating various passages. I've leaned
heavily on John Gonzalez and Arturo but I hate asking them all the time.
Others that feel comfortable translating occasional passages would be
helpful.

thanks,

joseph

Bien dicho!

Listen up to what Arturo said as I couldn't say it any better.

If you have any questions about putting personal information in an email
about yourself or others ASK.

thanks for your cooperation in this.

joseph

PS: Arturo there are 12 members less on the Announce list than on the
Research list. Do you think for important stuff like this we should
break the rules (like I have already a couple of time) and send out the
message on that list as well? Kind of a Moderator option???

arturoramos wrote:

>(espanol abajo)
>
>In order to ensure the privacy of members and to keep the site from becoming a target of email harvesting programs (that scan web sites for email addresses which then get unwanted email or spam), please do not post your own or other members' personal information in messages. Any message posted to any one of the lists also gets posted to the site online which is available for reading by the general public and email harvesting programs. Personal information that should not be included in messages includes email addresses, phone numbers and vital information (birthdates, mother's maiden name, etc.) of living persons.
>
>If you need to contact a member directly, you can use the member directory available at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/profile or click on a member's username below one of their postings and use the contact form to send them a personal message.
>
>Thank you for your cooperation. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this matter.
>
>ESPANOL
>
>Para proteger la privacidad de los miembros y para asegurar que el sitio no sea rastreado por programas que ''cosechan'' direcciones de correo-e (rastrean la red buscando direcciones de correo-e para luego enviarles correo-e no deseado o ''spam''), por favor no incluya informacion personal de si mismo ni de otros miembros en sus mensajes. Cualquier mensaje que se sumete a cualquiera de las listas queda publicado en el sitio en la red y queda disponible al publico general y a programas que cosechan direcciones de correo-e. Informacion personal que no debe incluirse en mensajes incluye direcciones de correo-e, numeros de telefono o informacion viatica (tal como fechas de nacimiento, nombre de padres, etc.) de personas vivas.
>
>Si necesitas ponerte en contacto con un miembro directamente, puedes usar el directorio de membresia que queda disponible en http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/profile o hacer click en en apodo (user name) de un miembro que queda debajo de cualquiera de sus contribuciones y usar la forma de contacto para enviarle un mensaje personal.
>
>Gracias por su cooperacion. Por favor dejenme saber si tienen alguna pregunta sobre este tema.

(espanol sigue abajo)

For anybody looking to make personal contact with a member, there are two ways to do it. You must be logged on to the site for either method, because we want to make sure that members' personal information is not made public.

Method 1:
Click on a user's name under one of their postings or find a user using the search field on the upper right of the site. You will see a tab labled "Contact" and once you click on this tab you can type a message to the user there and the system will send it to their personal email address.

Method 2:
Browse through the member directory (which is alphabetical by last name) by clicking on "Files" and then the "browse" membership link at the bottom of the page. Once you find the member, you will have his/her email address so you can email them directly.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

ESPANOL

Para cualquier persona que quiera ponerse en contacto con otro miembro directamente, existen dos modos de hacerlo. Los dos modos requieren haber ingresado al sitio porque queremos asegurar que la informacion personal de los miembros no quede disponible publicamente.

Modo 1:
Haz click en el apodo (user name) del miembro que se muestra al fin de cualquiera de sus contribuciones o bien busca el miembro usando el campo de busqueda en la parte derecha y superior del sitio. Veras una lengueta con la etiqueta "Contacto." Cuando hagas click a esta lengueta, podras escribir un mensaje al miembro y el sistema lo enviara a la direccion personal de ese miembro.

Modo 2:
Hecha un vistazo en el directorio de miembros (que queda listado alfabeticamente por apellido). Puedes llegar a ese directorio, hacinedo click en "Archivos" y luego en el vinculo que dice "browse" membership en la parte inferior de la pagina. Ya que encuentres el miembro, tendras su direccion de correo-e y podras mandarle un mensaje directamente.

Dejenme saber si tienen alguna pregunta.

Tomas:

Gracias por tus sugerencias sobre la distribucion de nuestras genealogias. Yo estoy a punto de publicar la mia. Ya pronto anunciare el libro en este sitio, asi como la informacion de donde se podra comprar. Pensaba donar algunas copias pero no habia pensado tan detalladamente a que instituciones hacerlo. Tu mensaje ha sido muy util.

Para cualquier persona que piense que el publicar una obra seria muy caro o no seria posible, les puedo dar algunas sugerencias. Ya existe la imprenta digital donde se pueden imprimir cantidades menores de ejemplares (hasta uno a la vez) a un costo bastante rasonable. Esto no requiere ninguna inversion por la parte del autor salvo los anos y anos de trabajo en la investigacion y claro el recopilar los datos en algun formato que sea accesible al lector. Indices onosmaticos son esenciales en trabajos genealogicos.

Saludos desde Washington, DC.

Tomas Alejandro
Solo quíero preguntarte si pudiste mandarle al Dr. Carlos Barba
mi genealogia sobre algunos Barba de la región de Los Altos de Jalisco, te
comento que tengo un poco más de avance al respecto y te mando nuevamente mi
archivo.
Esperando saber si me puedes conseguir su obra o poner en contacto con él.
saludos
Jose de Loza

2006/10/13, Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez :
>
> Hola a Todos:
>
> Un Llamado o consejo a las personas que han publicado o piensan
> publicar algun libro, en especial sobre los que son de nuestro interes
> que es la Historia y la Genealogia.
>
> Y sea este llamado para escritores o investigadores tanto nacionales
> como internacionales.
>
> Segun mi punto de vista, cuando alguien publica un libro o reporte,
> su interes u objetivo principal deberia ser que esta publicacion sea
> leida y llegue al mayor numero de personas posibles, y como segundo
> objetivo (pero tambien muy importante) es ganar dinero y reconocimiento,
> que es muy valido tambien, pero como dije, el principal es que su obra
> sea leida por el mayor numero de opersonas posible.
>
> Una de las formas de hacer posible ese principal objetivo, es DONAR
> o REGALAR una copia del libro o investigacion a alguna o algunas
> bibliotecas o archivos, en el caso particular de las investigaciones
> genealogicas e historicas, seria ir de lo general a lo particular, es
> decir, yo les sugiero a los escritores, que REgalen una copia de su
> libro o trabajo, 1o.- A la Biblioteca del Congreso de los Estados
> Unidos de Norte America (Que segun he leido, es la biblioteca
> mas importante del mundo, por el numero de libros que tiene en su
> acervo en TODOS los IDIOMAS).
> 2o.- A la biblioteca mas importante sobre genealogia en el mundo,
> que seria la biblioteca central en Salt Lake City, Utha, Estados Unidos.
> 3o.- Al Archivo General de la Nacion en la Ciudad de Mexico, D.F.
> que teoricamente resguarda a la mayor cantidad de Archivos y libros
> en nuestro pais y tal vez otra copia donde se encuentra el Centro
> de Distribucion de Microfilmes de la Ciudad de Mexico, D.F., de los
> Centros de Historia Familiar de los Mormones.
> 4o.- A la biblioteca o Archivo mas importante del Estado donde se
> relaciona la investigacion o libro, en mi caso particular seria a la
> Biblioteca Publica del Estado de Jalisco y al Archivo Historico de
> Jalisco y otra copia a algun Centro de Historia Familiar en la Ciudad
> de Guadalajara, Jal. (No se cual sea el mas impotante, de los 4 o
> 5 Centros que hay, pero de ser posible regalar una capia a cada uno).
> 5o.- A la biblioteca o Archivo particular de la Investigacion si es que
> estan interesados en tener copia, por ejemplo, El archivo Historico de
> concentracion del Arzobispado e Guadalajara, El Archivo Municipal
> donde se investiga, ya sea Guadalajara, Tepa, Jalos, Ocotlan, sea
> Municipal o Eclesiastico, etc.
>
> Tambien es muy importante, como ya lo habia dicho en alguna
> ocasion anterior, que se aproveche la tecnologia actual de internet,
> y se convierta a digital el libro o reporte, de preferencia en el formato
> universal PDF (Portable Document Format de Adobe) y asi no
> esperar recursos monetarios o de financiamiento para poder publicar
> la obra en papel, y que se comercialize el libro en formato digital
> por internet, mandando el libro en ese formato por correo electronico,
> en el caso particular de las investigaciones genealogicas, exhorto a
> los investigadores que publiquen aunque sea parcialmente sus
> investigaciones por este medio y formato, con la promesa o
> certificacion que se actualizara el archivo, conforme se vaya actualizando
> o corrigiendo, y asi no esperar años y años para que se de a la luz
> una obra genealogica, es fabuloso no tener que esperar años por
> financiamiento de alguna editorial para publicar el libro, sino solo
> hacerlo en formato digital PDF y asi venderlo y distribuirlo por
> internet sin casi ningun costo.
>
> Por todo lo anterior, exhorto en lo particular a el Dr. Don Mariano
> Gonzalez Leal, a la Investigadora Cecilia Aguilar Camargo de Hino,
> al Investigador Ing. Alfonso Rodriguez, al Prof. Salvador Escobedo,
> al Lic. Pedro Franco Lopez, para que publiquen sus investigaciones
> en formato digital, y lo distribuyan por internet, pudiendo ser
> intermediario el Site de Genealogia Mexico, de nuestro grupo
> para su distribucion.
>
> Tambien hago el mismo exhorto al Dr. Carlos Barba Gomez
> para la distribucion de su trabajo por internet, pero a la vez
> darle las gracias por donar una copia de su investigacion en
> papel a la biblioteca de la Estaca Union de esta ciudad de
> Guadalajara, Jalisco.
>
> Un saludo a todos y espero sus comentarios, o mejor
> ahun, ESPERO YA, LA PUBLICACION PARCIAL DE SUS
> TRABAJOS en Pdf y por internet.
>
> --
> Saludos desde Guadalajara:
>
> Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

hola M Cortez:

Gracias `por darme este dato, me inscribire ahora mismo al foro
que bueno que tienen alli a Luz Montejano y a Mariano Gonzalez
que son exppertos genealogistas.

Cuentame mas de ti, que haces, de tu familia.

saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

2006/10/15, mcortez :
>
> Hola Tomas,
>
> Te queria comentar acerca del foro de genealogia de Mexico:
> http://mx.groups.yahoo.com/group/genmex/
>
> Este foro no esta concentrado en ningun estado Mexicano en particular,
> pero
> si tiene por miembros a Luz Montejano Hilton y a Don Mariano
> Gonzalez-Leal.
> Varios miembros han preguntado a Don Mariano acerca de sus libros por este
> medio y ha dicho que seran publicados para el proximo año pero no dice el
> precio.
>
> Al igual que tu, mis ancestros eran de Los Altos de Jalisco: Ixtlahuacan
> del Rio, San Nicolas de los Abundis, Cuquio, Yahualica, Jalostotitlan, y
> muchos ranchos y haciendas cerca de estas parroquias. Por esta razon los
> libros de Don Mariano son esenciales para mis estudios.
>
> Saludos desde Sacramento, CA
>
> Maria Cortez
>
>
>

Maria:

I think Mickey is right... there is an entry for an Ignacio Martin del Campo, but it is marrying a Margarita Gomez Hurtado in Jalostotitlan in 1748.

There is a dispensation in 1718 for a Manuel Sanchez de Porras 20 years old with Apolonia Martin del Campo 16 years old... p. 140, Expediente 759.

Dear Arturo and Ranchos members,

I wish I could have been there. I enjoyed reading about your gathering and hopefully I can make it another time. In the mean time I look forward to hearing about your findings, lectures etc.

Atentamente;
Alicia de San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:51:20 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Great Meeting Everyone in Salt Lake City

I just wanted to express to the whole group what a great time I had in Salt Lake City this past weekend. More than the conference itself, getting to meet Mickey, Josie, Lydia and Ulla and getting to see Kitty and Rich again made the trip a great experience.

Hola Emile:

Gracias por escribirme y darme tu opinion, que como veo estas
de acuerdo conmigo, mil gracias otra vez, es muy importante para
mi recibir sus opiniones, sobre todo si estan de acuerdo conmigo.

Cuentame mas de ti, de donde eres, que edad tienes, donde
trabajas y vives, de tu familia.

Dime tambien que apellidos investigas y de que region.

Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.

El día 14/10/06, Emilie Garcia escribió:
>
> Tomas Alejandro,
>
> (perdon mi espanol) Estoy de acuerdo con tu consejo de que "informacion
> sea leida y llegue al moayor numero de personas posibles". Por eso paso mi
> informacion genealogica al grupo Nuestros Ranchos y
> Rootsweb.WorldConnect.com gratis para "dar la luz" en ves de esperar anos
> y a~nos, etc. Asi encuentro otros con los mismos antepasados para "share"
> (compartir?) informacion. Para los que es mas importante vender esa
> informacion, la idea de pasarla por formato PDF es muy buen idea. Yo compro
> muchos articulos en ese formato que venden en sitios de los revistas de
> antropologia (mi interes es en la historia de mis antepasados indigenos de
> los tribus Pueblo de el estado de Nuevo Mexico (Piro-Manso-Tewa) y de los
> tribus de California (los Chumash).
>
> Saludos de Port Orchard, Washington (estado) Estados Unidos
>
> Emilie Garcia