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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-51822-39?cc=1410092&wc…

Help on reading this marriage document

Ysavel De Aspitia
Diego De Aguayo

Hola a todos,

Estoy trabajando en la linea Materna de mi Abuelo Paterno, Samuel Hernandez Ruiz, nacido en Ayotlan en 1910. El "ancestro Ruiz" mas antiguo que he encontrado es; Christoval Ruiz de Velasco casado con Catharina Camarena en La Barca, Jalisco en 1750. Quisiera encontrar los padres de Christoval, pero la informacion matrimonial de esas fechas esta algo ilegible. Encontre un acta de bautismo de un hijo de Christoval y Catharina donde los padrinos son Francisco Ruiz de Velasco y Manuela De La Mora, sera posible que Francisco y Manuela sean los padres de Christoval? quizas un hermano?

Que opinan?

Aqui estan los links:

Matrimonio de Christoval y Catharina
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19033-62716-6?cc=1874591&wc=…

Bautismo de hijo de Christoval y Catharina
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19038-10779-17?cc=1874591&wc…

Gracias,
Roberto Hdez

Hi all--

To reiterate: the blog is only down temporarily. If you want to be notified when it comes back up, connect to one of our Social pages (links are below). I will be posting updates only via the official pages from now on so as not to crowd the posts here.

Thanks!

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Antes que todo mi agradecimiento a todos los miembros de este excelente foro por sus valiosas aportaciones.

Estoy buscando a los padres de Maurisia Alvarez, madre de Jesus Alvarez (hija natural) quien naciera probablemente en 1848-1849 en San juan de los Lagos y se casara el 25 de agosto 1866 con Refugio Rodriguez Tostado, hijo de Hermenegildo Rodriguez y Luisa Tostado.

Agadezco la ayuda que me puedan brindar

Saludos

Hola a todos de nuevo:

El día de hoy descubrí los nombres de dos nuevos antepasados. Lucas Martín del Campo que a veces viene sólo como Martín o como Delgado del Campo e Isabel de Lizaola.
Hasta ahora toda la información que he podido encontrar de ellos es la siguiente.

1-María Tomasa Martín de Lizaola, bautizada el 13 de Enero de 1713 en Poncitlán, Jalisco.
2-Bernabé José Delgado del Campo y Lizaola, bautizado en Guadalajara el 1 Junio de 1717.
3-María Guadalupe Velante Martín de Lizaola, bautizada en Guadalajara el 23 de Diciembre de 1720.
4-Mi antepasada Angela Martín del Campo y Lizaola, casada con Francisco de Uribe, tuvieron hijos todos bautizados en Ameca, y viene en ciertas actas como Martín del Campo y en otras como Martín de Lizaola.

Ojalá a alguien le suenen esos apellidos y pudiera proporcionarme algo de información, se los agradecería muchísimo.

Saludos
Enrique Agraz

I guess I'm confused about the GuadalajaraDispensas.com website. There is a re-direct to Google that requires a login; once the login has been made (I use that login for some other Google features), I get a "Permission Denied".

Is there a change in the way the Dispensas blog is accessed?

Best wishes,
Lawrence Bouett

Has there been a change in how to access the lists of Matrimonial Dispensations that Claudia and others have developed? When I tried to access them I was told I needed a Google Acount; then I was told I must be invited to the blog. These have been invaluable and I was able to access them just this morning.
Deedra Corona

I have been researching my family line in Zacatecas, Mainly the Tejada's who lived in Corrales,Zac.which is under the [Jiménez del Teúl,San Andrés Apóstol] records. The family lived there from 1850-1898. In many of the documents it list Antonio Tejada married to Ma.Felipa Cardenas, they must have been born in the 1820's and married in the early 1840's.. but the earlies information in this area begin at 1861. No info is given durring the 1840's or 1850's that would let me continue to find them or thier parents. It is posible that they came from JEREZ but here also is a gap in the 40's and 50's birth records. Any suggestions let me know Thanks.

I have noticed that when I read the blood line designation that the baptism record and the marriage record don't always coincide. In one the family member will be designated mestizo and in the other Espn. Does anyone understand why this would happen? My guess is maybe the priest didn't ask and just made a judgment from looking at the individuals.

Another question I have just come across is a baptism record where the individual was listed as hija legitima but then only the mothers name was listed. Any insight would be appreciated, I'm thinking maybe the father died before the birth but this is just a guess because I can't figure out how the baby would be legitimate if the mother didn't have a spouse.

Alaguien tendra información de los ancestros de Alonso Prieto Gallardo casado con Maria Juarez de Villa Verde, padres de Nicolas Prieto, Onofre, Andres, Maria, entre otros nacidos en Cuquio a mediados de 1670 a 1695.

De antemano Gracias

Atte
Victor Gómez

Thank you for letting us join the group. We are researching mainly Escovedo (Escobedo) family geneology in Zacatecas.

Surnames Researching
Escobedo (Escovedo)
Broines
Rojas

My wife's grandfather was:

1. ANTONIO ESCOBEDO (Jose Antonio Escovedo)was born 6/13/1885 (3) in Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico and Baptized in San Pedro, Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico (27 June 1887). He married ALTAGRACIA BRIONES probably around 1905-1910 in (?). ALTAGRACIA BRIONES was born 1/6/1885 in Saltillo, Coahilua, Mexico

Children of ANTONIO ESCOBEDO and ALTAGRACIA BRIONES are:
2. i. FRANCISCO ESCOBEDO, born 1/29/1912, Musquez, Coahilua, Mexico.
3. ii. PEDRO B ESCOBEDO, born 5/13/1914, Nixon, Gonzales, Texas, USA. (my wife's father)
4. iii. RAFAELA ESCODEBO, born 6/21/1916, San Antonio, Texas, USA
5. iv. REMIJIA ESCODEBO (BOSQUEZ), born 5/3/1925, San Antonio, Texas, USA
6. v. RAQUEL ESCODEBO (RODRIGUEZ), born 5/7/1928, San Antonio, Texas, USA
7. vi. ROSA ESCODEBO (PINALES), born (?), San Antonio, Texas, USA

Father of Antonio Escobedo: Claro Escovedo
Mother of Antonio Escobedo: Remigia (Remijia) Rojas

Our trail goes cold with Antonio's parents Claro & Remigia. We have tried different spellings, etc. and cannot find anything.

Our folder is at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/garysarah

We are glad to be a part of this group.
Gary & Sarah (Escobedo) Miller

 Dear Group,
 
I need your help in unraveling this Corvera/Corbera y Juana Gonzales mystery. I know that this is a rather lengthy posting, but I have been trying to figure this out for many years.
 
My husband's Corvera/Corbera paternal lineage has been a complicated one for me and I with your help hope to move on...

Here's  what I do know/have established to date...

My father-in-law Florentino Corvera/Corbera bapt 15 Apr 1894 Capilla de Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico...son of Aniceto Corvera y Trinidad Serrano. 

I have listed his siblings below, he being # 2 

Offspring of: Aniceto Corvera/Corbera y Maria Trinidad Salamanca Serrano

1. En la Capilla del Plateado, ( Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Huanusco, Zacatecas - Sep 1890  hija natural de Aniceto Cordero y Trinidad Cerrano...A.P. Juan Cordero y Juana Gonzales - A.M. Juan Cerrano y Jesus Salamanca.

 (Is Cordero in this record actually Corvera/Corbera ? )

2. En la Capilla de Momax, Apr 1894 hijo legitimo de Aniceto Corvera y Trinidad Serrano...A.P. Juan Corvera ( mayor de edad y vecino de la Municipalidad del Plateado) y Juana Gonzales (finada) -  A.M. Juan Serrano (mayor de edad) y Jesus Zalamanca (finados).

3. En la Capilla de  Momax, 14 Jun1896 hijo natural de Aniceto Corvera y Ma. Trinidad Serrano A.P. Juan Corvera y Jesus Zalamanca... no other notation about the grandparents... I believe that the priest actually recorded this baptism information  incorrectly....that the A.P. should have been Juan Corvera y Juana Gonzales and the A.M. Juan Serrano y Jesus Salamanca.

4. En la Capilla de Momax, 4 Mar 1900 hijo legitimo de Aniceto Corvera y Trinidad Serrano A.P. Juan Corvera y Juana Gonzales  A.M. Juan Serrano y Jesus Salamanca.

5. En la Capilla de Momax, 10 Aug 1902 hija legitima de Aniceto Corbera y Trinidad Serrano A.P. Juan Corbera y Juana Gonzalez. A.M. Juan Serrano y Jesus Salamanca.

6. En la Capilla de  Momax, 05 Feb 1905 hija legitima de Aniceto Corvera y Ma Trinidad Cerrano... A.P. Juan y Juana Gonzalez, A.M. Juan y Ma. Jesus Salamanca

7. En la Capilla de  Momax, 16 Feb 1907 hija legitima de Anacleto Cordero y Ma. Trinidad Serrano...A.P. Juan y Juana Gonzalez - A.M. Juan y Ma. Jesus Salamanca.

(Is Anacleto Cordero actually Aniceto Corvera/Corbera?) 

8. En la Capilla de Momax, 31 Jul 1910 hijo legitimo de Aniceto Corvera y Maria Trinidad Serrano, A.P. Juan y Juana Gonzalez, A.M. Juan Jose y Maria Jesus Salamanca.

NOTE:  I believe that based on these records these children are the offspring of Aniceto Corvera/Corbera y  Maria Trinidad Salamanca Serrano. (with various errors and spelling variations of their names), and that their  A.P. are Juan Corvera/Corbera y Juana Gonzales and  A.M. Juan Serrano y Jesus Salamanca.

To date I have not located baptism records for Aniceto nor for Juana Gonzales, plus I have not located a marriage record for this couple.
~~~~~~~~~~

The two records below I believe are the offspring of Juan Corvera y Juana Gonzales aka Nepomucena Gonzales.

(1.)  En la Iglesia del Pue blo de Santa Maria De Los Angeles, Jalisco, Mexico 21 Nov 1846 hijo legitima de Juan Corvera y Nepomucena Gonzales. A.P. Vicenta Corvera y Benita Marquez A.M. Cesario Gonzales y Demetria Aleman.

(2.)  En la Parroquia de Tabasco - Plateado - 28 May 1865 hijo legitima de Juan Corvera y Juana Gonzalez . A.P. Vicente Corvera y Benita Marquez. A.M. Cesario Gonzalez y Demetria Aleman .

A marriage record dated 03 May 1865 S.M. Mecatabasco for child # (1.) states he is the  son of Juan Corbera y Nepomucena Gonzales...

En la Parroquia de Tabasco...groom native and resident of Plateado, hijo legitima de Juan Corbera  y Juana Gonsalez "que viven," it mentions the bride's name, she hija legitima de Julian Bramasco y Fermina Chavez.
Five baptism records  for this couple's children state that the A.P. Juan Corbera y Juana Gonzalez and  A.M. Julian Bramasco y Fermina Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~

My question is...

Is this the same Juana/Maria Juana/Nepomocena Gonzales that is mentioned in all the records noted above?

Mexico Catholic Church Records - Zacatecas - Huanusco - Santa Maria Mecatabasco - Matrimonios 1835-1857, 1862-1875 Image 346 of 717.
Batch # M601216 Film # 1094876

En la Parroquia de esta Villa 02 Abril 1856 -
Cruz Chaves y Juana Gonzales
Groom's father - Agustin Chaves
Groom's mother - Guadalupe Gusman
Bride's father - Cesario Gonzales
Bride's mother - Ma. Demetria Aleman

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Thank you,
Pat Silva Corbera

This is a reply to A_Tejano, and others who want to know where the Guadalajara Dispensas are located:

Every post at www.guadalajaradispensas.com is a complete extraction of an FHL "film" at familysearch.com and includes a *link* to the actual FHL images. Look for the following info at the top of every post:

Mexico Genealogy
Genealogical Information - Catholic Church Records
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara
Marriage Dispensations in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
former Province of New Galicia / Nueva Galicia in the Spanish Colonies
Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.
Source film: 168359 *[click on this part of the post for a direct "link" to the images on familysearch that have been extracted as part of the same post on the blog]

I hope this helps to answer your question.

Happy hunting,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com
www.sagradamitra.com

This doesn't fit into my schedule this year but it sounds very
interesting. I would be very interested in reading reviews of anyone who
attends.
Raquel Ruiz

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QUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR A PELEOGRAFIAR EL ACTA DE MATRIMONIO DE ANTONIO PRIETO GALLARDO E YSABEL MUÑIZ CASADOS EL 8 DE ENERO 1645 EN EL SAGRARIO DE AGUASCALIENTES Y VELADOS EL 9 DE FEBRERO DEL MISMO AÑO, ENCONTRE EL ACTA EN LA PARTIDA DE BAUTIZOS 1616-1662 EN LA IMAGEN 278.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-53315-21?cc=1410092&…

DE ESTA FORMA SABER QUIENES FUERON LOS PADRES DE LOS CONTRAYENTES Y SUS PADRINOS, YA QUE NO LE ENTIENDO AL ACTA.

DE ANTEMANO GRACIAS

VICTOR M GOMEZ

Buenos Dias,

I am seeking information relative to the above couple, my maternal 5th great grandparents. They were married 20 Feb 1757 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, MX (Nuestra Senora de Dolores). It appears that the Family Search digitized records does not include the period 1754-1767 in Matrimonios.

They had at least 1 child: Maria Alvina de Villapando, born about 1762.

Can someone give me advise on how to close the digital records "gap".

Gracias,

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Quisiera saber cuanto tiempo duraba el processo de dispensas por consanguineidad en la segunda mitad del siglo XIX. Tengo la fecha de matrimonio de mis bisabuelos pero no encuentro la "Información matrimonial". He buscado durante los seis meses anteriores a la fecha pero no encuentro nada. Asumo que ese proceso podía ser largo y que se iniciaba después de que se daba aviso de que la pareja se quería casar. Alguien tiene alguna sugerencia de cómo buscar o de que tan atras hay que buscar? El matrimonio fue en abril de 1873 en Arandas

Here is a Census of Rancho De Los Maderas (Rincon) of Huejuquilla, Jalisco, Mexico during the year 1830.

Marcelo Madera is my maternal great great grandfather. He is the father of Benito Madera. Benito Madera is the father of Maria Clemencia Madera - the spouse of my Paternal Great Grandfather Calixto Madera.

On the Census Marcelo Madera is listed at age 62 years in the year 1830. That would make is approximate birth in the year 1768.

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/4218/marcelomaderaranchodelo.jpg
Pg. 2 of Rancho Madera:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4218/marcelomaderaranchodelo.jpg
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg696/scaled.php?server=696&filename=mar…
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18448-6102-19?cc=1874591&wc=…

Wow,

This will be an amazing conference, I wish I could go, but I know I can't.

Alicia

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To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: Conferencia de genealogia en Saltillo, Coahuila (Marzo 2012)

-----Original Message-----
From: Benicio Samuel Sanchez Garcia [mailto:SamuelSanchez@Genealogia.org.mx]

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:19 PM
To: NR@josephpuentes.com
Subject: Conferencia de genealogia en Saltillo, Coahuila (Marzo 2012)

CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL DE HISTORIA

SECRETARÍA DE GOBIERNO
ARCHIVO GENERAL DEL ESTADO DE COAHUILA
CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL DE HISTORIA
BINATIONAL HISTORY CONFERENCE
16 y 17 de Marzo del 2012

Viernes 16 de Marzo de 2012

15:00 hrs.  Inscripciones:
Registro e Inscripción libre
SEDE de la Conferencia:
Secretaría de Cultura
Calle Juárez e Hidalgo.
Centro Histórico. Saltillo, Coah.
18:00 hrs.  Bienvenida.
Ceremonia de Inauguración a cargo del
Lic. Rubén Moreira Valdez
Gobernador del Estado de Coahuila de Zaragoza Conferencia Magistral Gonzalo
de Salazar y su familia: hombre novohispano de la nobleza, pero no muy noble
Dr. George Ryskamp Profesor Asociado de Historia Director del Centro de
Historia Familiar y Genealogía Brigham Young University. Provo, Utah. USA.
19:30 Hrs.        Entrega de reconocimientos especiales.

Sábado 17 de Marzo de 2012.
9:00 Hrs.  Las Innombrables
Presentación de libro.
Mtro. Hugo Armando Ortiz Guerrero. Autor.
Centro Regional de Documentación e Información en Salud.
Universidad Autónoma de Nuevo León. Monterrey, N.L.
Mtro. Jesús de León Montalvo. Comentarista.
Editor de La Gazeta del Saltillo
Archivo Municipal de Saltillo. Saltillo, Coahuila.
10:00 Hrs.  Los Moreno Peña una familia descendiente de don Santos Rojo Dra.
Margarita Maass.
Laboratorio de Comunicación Compleja. Centro de Investigaciones
Interdisciplinarias en Ciencias y
Humanidades. 
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México.
México, D.F.
11:00 Hrs. Buscando ancestros del siglo XVI en un mundo cyber Dr. George
Ryskamp Profesor Asociado de Historia Director del Centro de Historia
Familiar y Genealogía Brigham Young University. Provo, Utah. USA.
12:00 Hrs. Dos familias en la conformación histórica del noreste novohispano
Presentación de libro.
Mtro. Francisco Javier Rodríguez Gutiérrez.
Sub-director del Archivo General del Estado.
Ramos Arizpe, Coahuila.
13:00 Hrs.      Receso

15:00 Hrs.  El Camino Olive Trail – Sembrando olivos en México y Texas.
Documental.
William Millet. Productor de Televisión y Música, historiador.
San Antonio, Texas, USA
15:45 Hrs.  Los Frescos del Álamo y el arte de las misiones en Tejas
Karen Thompson. Presidente General de The daughters of the Republic of Texas
Stephanie Galt.
San Antonio,  Texas, USA.
16:30 Hrs. Evolución de la Plaza del Álamo en la época colonial
George Nelson. Pintor, escritor, historiador.
University of Texas at Austin. Austin, Tx. USA.
17:30 Hrs. Anacleto en Capellanía
Presentación de libro.
Dr. Santiago Rodríguez Martínez. Autor.
Don Manuel Gila Vara.    . Comentarista.
Cronista de la ciudad de Ramos Arizpe.
Ramos Arizpe, Coahuila.
18:30 Hrs. Los descendientes de don Victoriano Navarro en la Revolución
Mexicana
Dr. Mauricio Navarro Villalobos.
Universidad Autónoma de Coahuila.
Torreón, Coahuila.
19:30 Hrs. Libro de los entierros de la Iglesia parroquial de Monterrey 1668
– 1773
Ing. Adrián Zambrano González. Autor
Sociedad de Genealogía de Nuevo León. Monterrey, N.L.
20:30 Hrs. Reconocimientos de asistencia.
21:00 Hrs. Clausura

DATOS PRÁCTICOS:
Registro e Inscripción libre
The register is free
La sede de la conferencia será en la Secretaría de Cultura del Gobierno del
Estado
Calle Juárez e Hidalgo. Centro Histórico. Saltillo, Coahuila, México
Informes en general:
Archivo General del Estado de Coahuila
http://ahc.sfpcoahuila.gob.mx/
Mtra. Laura de León Galindo.
844-4903016
Miguel Ángel Muñoz Borrego.
miguel.munoz15@gmail.com
844-4885349
045 (844) 106 43 69

Hello everyone --

I came across an interesting 1553 baptism record in Mexico City. Among the witnesses listed are Cristobal Onate, Hernan Peres de Bocanegra and Antonio de la Cadena. However there's also a name listed, where I can't read the first name but the last name is "de Montemayor"

Can anyone tell what the first name is for the Montemayor person? I'm working on a side project looking at the Mexico City connections for the founding families of Monterrey and Saltillo in case anyone is interested. See http://texmexroots.blogspot.com/p/mexico-city-monterrey-founder.html.

The record I'm talking about can be found at the Family history site, or at my website where I also posted it. If you're looking at the familyhistory website, here's the info you need: Asunción Sagrario Metropolitano (Centro) -- Bautismos de Españoles 1536-1589 -- p185 of 1003 (baptism of Jeronima, hija de Martin de Campos y su mujer Leonor)

Here's the link: https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.f…

Thanks for any help!

Chris Pineda

Ayuda por favor
My GGGGGGG grandfather Jeronimo Rosales b. 1689 married Josepha Romo de Vivar b. 1689, daughter of Francisco Romo de Vivar Rangel and Lorenza Ruis de Esparza

In researching (my GGGGGG) Jeronimo Rosales Romo de Vivar’s siblings I found a total of 13. Most born in Aguascalientes, Ags. -- some in Cienega de Mata Ojuelos, Jalisco
Three of the siblings had the same or similar names but born in different years. My question is – are some of the children I found belong to another set of parents with the exact names of Jeronimo Rosales and Josepha Romo de Vivar? So far the documents I have checked do not have the names of the grandparents so I can verify if they are the same parents

Here is what I have as children of
Jerónimo Rosales and Josepha Romo De Vivar (Married May 1st, 1709, Aguascalientes,)

*Francisco Eusebio b. 1710, Aguascalientes
Maria Sebastiana b. 1711 Aguascalientes
Lorenza b. 1713, Aguascalientes
*Francisco b. 1716, Aguascalientes
Josepha Eufracia Gertrudis b. 1718 Aguascalientes
Juan Joseph b. 1720 Aguascalientes
*Cristóbal b. 1723, Cienega de Mata, Ojuelos Jalisco
Maria Sebastiana b 1727 Cienega de Mata
Joseph Ylario b. 1730 Cienega de Mata
*Joseph Gabriel b. 1729 Cienega de Mata
Ana Rosales b. 1732 San Antonio Aguascalientes
*Gabriel b. 1734 San Antonio, Aguascalientes
*Cristóbal b. 1736 Cienega de Mata

Thank you for any information you may have. In the mean time I will continue to check the church records.
Aurora De Anda Romo

I am browsing Baptismos and search for the copy of my great grandfather Calixto Madera De La Paz. I know for sure that his parents are Patricio Madera and Maria Dimas De La Paz because my grandfather Antonio Madera Madera was born in July of 1893 and I found his baptimos and the names of his parents
Calixto Madera (Jimulco)/Maria Clemencia Madera (Rancho De Los Maderas),
Paternal Grandparents Patricio Madera/Maria Dimas De La Paz
Maternal Grandparents Benito Madera(Rancho De Los Maderas)

Sister of Calixto Madera de La Paz:

Antonia Madera (nacida el 9 de Mayo 1857)
Parents: Patrico Madera/Maria Dimas De La Paz
Paternal Grandparents: "Don" Juan Benancio Madera/? Ledesma
Maternal Grandparents: "Don" Macimo De La Paz/"Dona" Agata Ledesma

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8710/antoniamaderamay91857.jpg

I will continually add more brothers and sisters that I find and also Calixto's baptismo when I find it.

Posted today at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
Now posted: 1812 FHL Source Film 168160 / OAH 2469
AND: 1812 FHL Source Film 168161 / OAH 2476 pt1

Iam having difficulty with a document. Could anyone help me translate this document?
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/20391
I really apreciate the help!