Auto Criminales

Greetings to all,
How would you translate auto criminales and what are the contents?  I've attempted reading a couple and have found them very difficult to follow.  Perhaps if I read them in the proper context, it might be easier.
Thanks so much,  Alice Blake

Consanguinidad Help

My 3rd great grandparents were Eulogio Alvarez Flores and Carmen Flores Gonzalez. In the marriage info it says that they are related by "el parentesco de segundo con tercero de consanguinidad" Eulogio's parents were Jacinto Alvarez and Vicenta Flores. Carmen's parents were Carmen Flores and Antonia Gonzalez. I would like to know how they were related.

Rafael Meraz

Quinteros, Torres, Mendez, Campero, Camacho, Anguiano

Does anyone have the following names from the Zacatecas, Mexico area?

Simon Quinteros, son of Alvino & Alvina Rosales de Quinteros (Rio Grande, Zac, Mex)
md to Micaela Torres, daughter of Rafael Torres & Ma. Barbara Hernandez

Andres Mendez, son of Petronilo & Quirina Camacho de Mendez (Rancho Grande/Fresnillo, Zac, Mex) md to Dionicia Anguiano, daughter of Serulo? Anguiano & Gertrudis Campero. Serulo & Gertrudis also had another daughter named Jorja Anguiano who married Sebastian Fernandez in Zac, Mex.

Andres & Dionicia had several daughters together, one of which was my maternal ggrandmother, Domitila Mendez, who was married to Rafael Quinteros, son of Simon & Micaela Torres de Quinteros.

I have found these names through parrish records of the LDS church online but have hit a brick wall as to where to go to find info on the further back generations. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
Dallas, Texas

Batch numbers - Asientos

Sometimes it's useful to know which years have been indexed and which have not.

Nuestra Señora de Belén, Mineral de los Asientos de Ibarra, Aguascalientes
As of 18 Jun 2011
Bautismos
No indexes before 1766
Asientos 1766-1769 Mexico-EASy 1410924 batch # C64621-3, 889 results
Asientos 1775-1791 Mexico-EASy 1156077 batch # C03128-8, 5703 results (españoles volume 4?)
Asientos 1810-1821 Mexico-EASy 1156078 batch # C03861-5, 3383 results (vols 15-16)
Asientos 1821-1832, 1835-1838 Mexico-EASy 1410792 batch # C02537-7, 8734 results (prob vols 17, 18, 20)
Asientos 1818-1829 Mexico-EASy 1156079 batch # I04566-2, 2761 results ()
Asientos 1839-1844 Mexico-EASy 1156080 batch # C03861-6, 4548 results (vols 21-22)
Asientos 1844-1855 Mexico-EASy 1156081 batch # C03861-7, 6455 results (vols 23-25)
Asientos 1855-1856 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06667-9, 747 results ()
Asientos 1856-1858 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-0, 1252 results ()
Asientos 1858-1860 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-1, 1319 results ()
Asientos 1860-1862 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-2, 1234 results ()
Asientos 1862-1865 Mexico-EASy 1156082 batch # I06668-3, 1217 results (vol 28)
Asientos 1865-1871 Mexico-EASy 1156083 batch # C03861-8, 3859 results (vols 29-30)
Asientos 1871-1878 Mexico-EASy 1156084 batch # C02624-9, 4068 results (vols 31-32)
Asientos 1878-1885 Mexico-EASy 1156085 batch # C03861-9, 4336 results (vols 33, 34A, 34B)
No indexes for Asientos Baptisms found after 1885

Matrimonios
Asientos 1706-1729 Mexico-EASy 1410794 batch # M64621-8, 3297 results ()
Asientos 1729-1730 Mexico-EASy 1156091 batch # M01986-8, 154 results ()
Asientos 1744-1755 Mexico-EASy 1710794 batch # M64621-8, 3297 results ()
... (this is the same batch which includes 1706-1729)
No indexes from 1756-1791
Asientos 1792-1829 Mexico-EASy 1156092 batch # M64620-7, 6400 results ()
Asientos 1829-1857 Mexico-EASy 1156093 batch # M64620-8, 7937 results ()
Asientos 1857-1861, 1875-1893 Mexico-EASy 1156094 batch # M64620-9, 4695 results () plus 4 in 1870-1871
None after 1893

General Digest, Vol 65, Issue 11

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  1. Re: Living history (Eloise Reyes)
  2. Tal vez no sepan que exist?amos. (Diego Israel Valles Lopez)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:02:19 -0400
From: Eloise Reyes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org, lorenzocarrillo94@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Living history
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Nuestros Ranchos:
In preparation for the first ever family Reunion of the Gutierrez family, we
have decided to write a book of our history.  We prepared Elder Interview sheets
in English and Spanish so that the family members could interview the elders.  I
am willing to share our Elder Interview sheet if any of you ar interested.There
are 10 branches of Norberto & Margarita Gutierrez from Jalostotitlan.  My
cousins and I personally interveiwed the 5 children of my grandmother and
videotaped them.  We used the transcript for our Chapter.  Unfortunately, one of
the Tios died 3 weeks later.  We also did the DNA testing and the oldest living
survivor gave a cheek swab.  He, too, died last month. Our reunion is July 16
and we expect between 800 and 1,000 persons!  The living history, as recorded in
Our Book, will be a keepsake for all of our descendants.  I recommend that you
do your Elder interviews while you still have your familiy.

En preparacion para la primera Reunion de la Familia Gutierrez, nosotros
decidimos escribir un libro de nuestra historia.  Preparamos unas hojas
titutladas "Elder Interview" para la entrevista de los mayores de la familia. 
Las preguntas estan en Ingles y Espanol.  Si alguien quiere copia de las
Preguntas Para Entreviste del Mayor, se la podemos enviar. Hay 10 ramas (hijos)
de Norberto y Margarita Gutierrez de Jalostotitlan.  Mis primos y yo
entrevistamos personalmente a los 5 hijos de mi abuelita.  Grabamos la
entrevista en video.  Usamos la informacion para escribir nuestro capitulo. 
Desafortunadamente uno de los Tios fallecio 3 semanas despues.  Tambien hicimos
es estudio a ADN del mayor sobreviviente de la familia.  El fallecio unos meses
despues.  Nuestra reunion se llevara a cabo el 16 de julio y esperamos de 800 a
1000 personasy la historia viviente, aun ya escrita en Nuestro Libro, sera
nuestro tesoro y de nuestros desendientes.  Recomiendo que hagan sus entrevistas

mientras tienen a sus familiares.

Eloise Reyes

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Living history

Lorenzo Carrillo

Linda, that's what I always do with my other great grandparents. Mentioning
names and places or events gets their memories back on track and talking about
things I like to hear from them about their childhood and families. Its kind of
hard thought because they're in their 90s and forgetting but reminding them
helps. 

ADN Sanchez

A travez de este medio convoco a todas las personas con apellido paterno Sanchez de Zacatecas (Jerez,Teul,Tlatenango,Colotlan y zonas aledañas) y Jalisco para que se realicen una prueba de ADN a fin de saber el parentezco ya que es un apellido muy comun y de diferentes origenes. Yo me hice la prueba en familytree y soy del haplogrupo R1b1a2. Mis ancestros llegaron a Garcia de la Cadena,Zacatecas Rancho La Tetilla alrededor de 1800 pero por la falta de registros parece imposible continuar mi busqueda. Por medio del ADN coincido con personas de Inglaterra,Irlanda, Escocia,Reino Unido y solo 2 personas de España todas con diferente apellido.

Gracias

franksanchezalvarez@gmail.com
juan.alvarez@sanmina-sci.com

Help locating la Barranca in Calvillo

Hello,
I've read a few marriage dispensations for Calvillo that reference "la Barranca de esta feligrecia." I can't figure out exactly what this town is today as there are a few "Barrancas" near Calvillo. Does anyone have a definite suggestion where "Barranca" might be?

Here's one reference, on the right-hand side of the image:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Thanks, Arturo

Are there any archives on information regarding Educational Background of Relatives back during Colonial Mexico Times?

Are their any archives on information about the educational background of relatives in our geneology tree going back to colonial times in Mexico?

Because how can one know of a relative was born in the 1700's in Mexico, how far in school did they get? Did they attend college?

New Member Introduction

Hi my name is Lynda Chavez and I must have made a mistake when I posted my introduction, I think that I only sent a link to one of my family lines. I have been working on some of my family lines and there are so many that I was hoping that others would have some connections to some of my ancestors. On my grandmothers side we are linked to Avila and Macias from Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco. It was only until the last several years in doing some family tree searches that I discovered that many (more than we thought) family members traveled to Jerome, Arizona from this area to work in the mines. I am a 4th generation of those ancestors to still be here, but many moved due to the mine shutting down in the mid 1900's. These are the families that traveled to Jerome, My great grandparents Andrea (Macias)& Santiago Avila who came with two infant daughters Refugia & Beatrice. An older sister Conception stayed behind and married a man with the last name Delgado. I know there is one relative from that line in Encenada, and the rest are now in San Diego. There were several children from this family and I think that she had grandchildren who were blind, but I heard sang beautifully. Santiago had a brother Isidro who apparently left Jerome and may have been killed in the war. He married Panfila Hernandez. Andrea had several brothers and sisters, Leonides who married Victoria Frausto, Enstanslao, Marciana, German, Castula, Cirilo, Eusebio, Sabina & Romulo. Jose and Romulo Macias came to Jerome. There parents were Crecencio Macias and Maria Jiminez. There were also other family relatives that traveled to Jerome by the names of Jiminez, Rosendo De la Cruz,Garcia, Romo(the Romo's moved to the Bisbee, Arizona area). I'm sure more will show up, I was just hoping some of you out there will notice a connection.

New Member Introduction

Hello, my name is Jenny Tomasello (Olmos) and I'm just beginning my research into my family tree. Unfortunately I do not have much information to go on as my family lost touch with my father when I was about 2 yrs old (adopted); so if anyone has any tips to guide me in the right direction I would be very greatful =)

My father (Steven Andrew Olmos - first born) was born (3 Aug 1950) to Gil Olmos and Juanita Almeyda when Gil was 60 yrs old.

My grandfather, Gil Olmos, was born 1 Sep 1891 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco to parents Juan Olmos and Andrea Aguilera. This information I was able to find on FamilySearch.

Again, I would be extremely greatful if anyone could give me ideas on beginning my search

Thank you!

Jenny

General v. Research

Por favor de continuar la discuccion de genealogia AFUERA de Jalisco,
Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes en general@nuestrosranchos.org y guardan el
research@nuestrosranchos.org NOMAS para discuccion de Jalisco, Zacatecas
y/o Aguascalientes.

Please continue the discussion about genealogy OUTSIDE of Jalisco,
Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes at general@nuestrosranchos.org y save
research@nuestrosranchos.org ONLY FOR discussion about Jalisco,
Zacatecas y/o Aguascalientes.

thanks for your cooperation with this,

joseph

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Villanueva, Zacatecas records

Hello all, I was wondering if any member here has gone through the Bautismo 1796-1851 or the Matrimonios 1806-1871 records for Villanueva. As both records are mixed with other's, and also include the towns and ranches around Villanueva, it has been hard for me to find the exact records for the town of Villanueva itself. In fact, I haven't found many records that say the town of Villanueva, but instead with the names of surrounding ranches instead.

Have I missed the pages where the Villanueva records are located, or is it that those books did not contain records for the town of Villanueva? Any help would be appreciated.

New member introduction :)

Hello all, my name is Lorenzo Carrillo, I'm from San Diego, ca and am one of the newest members of this site. I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce myself. I am 16 and have been interested in family researching since I was 12. I'm currently researchin the families : Carrillo, Juarez, rodarte, reveles, Avila, muro, Garcia, sotelo, Ramires, robles, hernandez, finada, Ortega, aristorena, roman,and Estrada. They all are from the state of Zacatecas . I became interested when I came to the realization a few years ago that I could only trace back to my great grandfather ( Lorenzo Carrillo Avila). My fathers side is my primary research from Zacatecas. My mothers side if the family all came from different parts of chihuahua . But, I'm very optimistic that I'll be able to unveil the truth of our roots from bothsides. People are often amazed at my age and all the work I do, but it's something valuable to me and my family and an activity I love to do.well I'm really looking forward to working with all of you in the near future , god bless and thank you for the opportunity to join this group. Sincerely , Lorenzo Carrillo .

my dad's y dna

Hi there,

my dad got tested an i have the results,but we dont really know what it means, i think he was told that it was western european and we had a n irish hit, which was a surprise.

I am not sure about all the information they Family tree has sent him, as he is old, hard of hearing, not exactly masterful on the computer and just a somewhat silly old man.

Wondering if anyone can help me out that may know what haplogroup the following belongs to and if anyone else on here is close etc.

393/13 390/23 19/15 391/10 385/12 426/11 388/13 439/13 389-1/13 392/11 389-2/28

Thanks!

Pena = Villalpando

I am seeking information regarding my maternal 4th great grandparents, Francisco Pena and Maria Alvina de Villalpando. They were married on 19 Feb 1785 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco. They had 7 children. Maria Alvina's parents were JUan Manuel Villalpando and Gertrudis Soto.

Introduction gonzo4761

Hello and Saludos cordiales, my name is Lance Gonzalez and thank you for
allowing me to be a new member. I live in the area of Riverside, California
and am researching the maternal side of my father's family: The names of
Garcia Serratos Hernandez and Gutierrez are from Jalisco and later lived in
Zacatecas.

My great-grandfather Apolonio Garcia Serratos was said to be born in
Jalostotitlan Around 1872, although I could not find him in the church
registers of Jalos.

My Grandmother Agripina Garcia Hernandez was born in Acatic, Jalisco on the
23 of June 1907. The godparents "padrinos" listed on baptism were Abraham
Gonzalez, and Maria Rutila Gonzalez; brother & Sister, Don Abraham was later
the president of Acatic and a senator of Jalisco.

Agripina's older siblings:

Rafael Garcia born around 1902, Agustina Garcia Around 1905, he was said to
be a Lawyer Virginia Garcia, Around 1906, and Beatriz 29 July 1904, were
said to be born in Acatic also although I have not confirmed this. The
younger siblings" Salvador Garcia,Born 3 Mar 1916, Rebecca Garcia, around
1918 and Demetrio 1920 and they were born in either Fresnillo (Where
Agripina Garcia) attended the"Universidad de Autonoma").

On a side I made an earlier post to the "Research Forum" and I thought I had
made a post to the "History, culture and general discussion forum" Sorry I
am still learning my way around.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/19558

Poseedores de la Hacienda De San Jose de Aguas de El Lobo

This is from the book "Historia y Vida del Municipio de Loreto, Zac. autores Maximiano Camarillo Nery y J. Guadalupe Camarillo Garcia

PRIMER DUENO: El capitan espanol Don Pedro Fernandez de Quijas, Casado con Dona Maria Escalante Boroto, apoderandose de ella por conquista que hicera de los aborigenes del lugar. Comprendiendo la hacienda lo que ahora es el municipio de Loreto, Villa Hidalgo y prete del municipio de Pinos

SEGUNDO DUENO: Don Pedro de Quijas Escalante Hijo, por donacion de su padre. Para morir, ano de 1669, en su testamento menciona a varios de sus hijos, quidando posesionado de una parte de la hacienda Nicolas de Quijas, quien mas tarde llevaria su nombre San Nicosal de Quijas, Hoy, Nigromante, Zacatecas.

TERCER DUENO: Ano de 1720, por compra-venta qui hizo Manujel Garcia Rojas a la familia de Qiujas Escalante, para el ano de 1760 queda al frente de la hacienda Dona Ignacia Garcia Rojas viuda de Nicolas de Austria junto con Fray Jose Garcia Rojas. En esta compra-venta se desmembro la Hacienda de San Marcos quedando al frente de ella Don Jose de Leon Garcia Rojas, Casado con Dona Refugio Dominguez de Leon, dueno que constgruyo los dos presas de la Hacienda de San Marcos, conocidas como presa grande y presa chica, sin constuirle a la presa grande el caracol, graderia y parte faltante de la cortina.

CUARTO DUENO: El conde Don grancisco Medina y Torres, por compra a do, Viuda de Nicolas de Austria hacia el ano de 1760-1761, no entrando en este trato la venta de la Hacienda de San Marcos

Ojala que alguien puede usar este pedacito de informacion, voy estar alli in Julio.
I hope someone can find this information useful.

Registros de La Estanzuela hoy Garcia de la Cadena Zacatecas

Alguien sabe donde estan los registros de La Estanzuela? Saben si la iglesia de los mormones hizo la filmacion de los registros de este lugar? Por mas que busco no los he encontrado, solo registros parciales en Mezquital del Oro.

Gracias

Anyone know where the parish records of the Estanzuela are? Know if the Mormon church made the filming of the records of this place? For more searching I have not found, only partial records in Mezquital del Oro

Thanks

De la Finada

I've found the phrase, "de la finada" recently in some marriage records and I'm not familiar with the phrase. It typically appears in front of a mother's name when naming parents in a marriage record. Like, "Jose Mendes y la finada Dolores Zamora..." It sounds like a reference to someone being deceased, but I've not previously seen or heard that term so applied and could not get any of the online translators to confirm.

Can anyone tell me if I'm on the right track?

Thanks so much!
Annette

Batch number de Matrimonios de Teuchitlan

Necesito ayuda para encontar un bath number de los matrimonios en teuchitlan, solo cuento con el numero de serie es el 440684. que corresponde al libro de matrimonios en teuchitlan de 1832 - 1874.

Les agradezco de antemano toda la ayuda que me puedan dar, ya que de no consiguirlo tendre que revisar muchas paginas con las que cuenta el libro.

busco los matrimonio Jose Bernardo Salvio con Paula Anselma Zalazar Castellanos y de Jose Mariano Salvio Zalazar con Feliciana Angel. Que presuntamente pueden encontrarse ahi.