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> Christina,

I think Maureen's suggestion is a good one. In addition to the border
crossing records I would try the 1930 Mexican census. The images are
available online at: labs.familysearch.org

I am hoping I can once again request from this group some information. You have all been so helpful in the past. This is in honor of St. Paddy's day....the Spanish/Irish connection.

I spend my genealogical time between the Irish (mine) and the Spanish (my husband's) I constantly tease him that sooner or later I will find that we are related. We have some similar traits and sometimes that is good, but other times it causes conflicts. Anyway, I am descended from the O'Neill family in Northern Ireland on my maternal side. My great grandfather's name was Hugh O'Neill and my grandmother used to tell us tales of the great Hugh O'Neill. We always thought it was ...you know....just fairy tales. Well, although somewhat embellished, some of her stories are in rare historical books. Anyway, out of curiousity, I started researching the Spanish Armada. Hugh O'Neill (not my great grandfather, but the famous one) was linked to this. Then I found out that many ships from the Armada were wrecked along the Northern Ireland coast. A couple quite close to my paternal ancestor, Owen Gallagher's home of Rosbeg, Donegal Ireland. Some accounts say that most of the soldiers in the ships drowned or were killed by the Irish or interrogated and hung by the English. Other accounts say that some Irish people hid some of the survivors and they eventually made it back to Spain. (I have another link to send with an interesting description of the Irish by one of the survivors, will send later)

Sounds like Guanajuato, Guanajuato... The city in the state.

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Out of curiosity I went to the Archivos de Simanca and typed in 'armada'. I received a response asking for a more detailed/specific request. Remember there was more than one armada sent against England. The survivor you mention is named Cuellar. He was one of the senior officers of the operation. You could query his name. Include the date with the word 'armada'. I have never researched the Simanca archives. It really isn't one of my interests. Good luck....

Hola Everybody, I told that Diego Padilla Davila 's (son of Lorenzo Padilla Davila y Machicao and Mariana Temino de Velasco) WIFE -Ana de La Mota y Vera Parents were Jewish converts .I thought it stated in the book of Mariano Gonzalez Leal 's book Retonos de Nueva Espana. Any body have knowledge of this info.

MUCHISIMAS GRACIAS

POR TU TIEMPO Y TU VALIOSA INFORMACION, ES MUY INTERESANTE, TODO LO QUE HAS ENVIADO.

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ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO Y ESTOY A TUS ORDENES, ATTE. LUPITA GONZALEZ

HOLA PRIMO

QUE ALEGRIA SABER DE TI, ME SERIA MAS FACIL DECIRTE PORQUE LADO NO EMPARENTAMOS, QUE MENCIONAR TODOS LOS QUE, SI, CLARO QUE SI ACEPTO TU APOYO, Y DE IGUAL MANERA DE MI, PARTE EN LO QUE TE PUEDA APOYAR, NO VISITO LA SAGRADA MITRA CON LA INTENSIDAD QUE QUIERO, PERO CUANDO SOLICITES QUE TE INVESTIGUE ALGO, CON GUSTO HAZMELO SABER, RESPECTO DE MI, TE DIGO QUE ME LLAMO LA ATENCION SOBRE EL APELLIDO MARENTES , EN ESA LINEA NO HE PODIDO AVANZAR, TENGO HASTA ROQUE MARENTES CASADO CON ROSA DE HUERTA, ES ALGO MAS, O LA FECHA DE MATRIMONIO.......SI TIENES FECHAS DE MATRIMONIO QUE INVESTIGAR DE LA REGION DE LOS ALTOS ME AVISAS, PARA BUSCAR INFORMACION, ME ALEGRA TENER OTRO PRIMO, POR VARIAS LINEAS......MUCHAS GRACIAS......TU PRIMA LUPITAour Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of General digest..."> > > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> DAILY DIGEST> ****************************************> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Reynoso y Mas (Ronald Reynoso)> 2. de Luna (Lester Alvarado)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:45:35 -0800> From: Ronald Reynoso > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso y Mas> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Hola Jorge ,como estas ? Ojala que estes bien. Mencionas La Lina Reynoso ,donde son tus antepasados Reynoso.Mis ante pasados eran de San Julian desde Jalostotitlan. Lo que yo ha investigado todo la Reynosada son los mismos. Yo tambien me toca casi igual la mayor parte de tus antepasados. Mi mero mero antepasado Reynoso era Francisco Reynoso casado con Josefa Renteria . Francisco Reynoso hijo de Francisco Reynoso( de Peru) y Marian Padilla Davila y Velasco.> Ronnie Reynoso casi pariente a todos de Los altos> From: georgio_2386@hotmail.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:45:11 -0600> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] PRESENTACION> > > Hola Lupita, me da gusto que hayas encontrado esta p?gina. Cada vez somos mas personas quienes compartimos encestros en los Altos de Jalisco y sobre todo el inter?s de conocer nuestras ra?ces ancestrales. > > Yo vivo en Tepatitl?n de Morelos, Jalisco, pero al igual que tu, tengo ancestros en casi toda la regi?n; Ca?adas de Obreg?n, Valle de Guadalupe, Jalostotitl?n, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Teocaltiche, Ocotl?n, Nochistl?n, etc.> > Entre los apellidos que encuentro entre mis ancestros est?n los Ram?rez de Hermosillo, G?mez Hurtado de Mendoza, D?az de Le?n, Dom?nguez, Gonz?lez Rubio, Gonz?lez de Hermosillo, Mart?n del Campo, Mart?n de Sotomayor, de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza, Gallardo, Padilla D?vila, Aranda, de Luna, Ibarra, Guti?rrez Coron> ado, Romero de Ch?vez, Hern?ndez Gami?o, P?rez Franco, Franco de Paredes, Casillas y Cabrera, L?pez de Elizalde, Ruiz de Esparza, Gallegos, Mu?oz de Nava, Becerra, Santa Cruz, Guajardo, de Aceves, Rodr?guez de Portugal, G?mez de Portugal, Guti?rrez de Hermosillo, Guti?rrez de Mendoza, Guti?rrez Rubio, Mu?oz de Hermosillo, Rodr?guez de Fr?as, Gonz?lez de H?jar, Rodr?guez de H?jar, de la Torre Ledezma, Delgadillo, Vallejo, Cornejo, Covarrubias, Arias Maldonado, Gonz?lez de Rubalcava, Villalobos, de Anda Altamirano, de la C?mara y Menoyo, Mar?n de Pe?aloza, de Loza, Fern?ndez de Rueda, Castellanos, Valdivia, Torres, de Ochoa Garibay, Navarro Gayt?n, Ort?z de Z?rate, Plascencia, Lozano Isla, Gil, Mac?as Valadez, Estrada Bocanegra, Cort?s, Ruiz de Velasco, Espa?a, Sonora, Ulloa, Sigala, de Alba, Carvajal de Ulloa, de Le?n, Murgu?a, Cano, Montes, de la Paz y Castro, Tello de Orozco, Camarena, Romo de Vivar, Vel?zquez, Ram?rez de Mendoza, Mu?oz de la Barba, Vargas Machuca, Enr?quez> del Castillo, Marentes de Otaduy, Reynoso y Renter?a, Quijas y Escalante, Bracamonte, ??iguez, etc.> > En lo que pueda ayudarte estoy a tus ?rdenes.> Saludos.Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez.> _________________________________________________________________> Participa en nanometrajes y gana grandes premios> http://cine.prodigymsn.com/nanometraje> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:20:44 +0000> From: Lester Alvarado > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] de Luna> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > > Hi there ,> > I have de Luna in my line she was Maria Pasquala de Luna married to Juan de Alvarado thier son Jose Antonio Candelario Alvarado de Luna was my Great great great Grandfather , Candelario was born 10th of Feb.1792 in Saltillo , Coahuila and married Maria Quirina Saldivar Gomez in Villa de Sanitago , Nuevo Leon 26 of Oct 1844 . I don't have any info on Juan or Pasquala such as birth dates , baptisms or marriage dates . If you have any info on them I sure would appreciate it .> > Thank you ,> Welester G. Alvarado> > > > lo, Mart?n del Campo, Mart?n de Sotomayor, de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza, Gallardo, Padilla D?vila, Aranda, de Luna, Ibarra, Guti?rrez Coronado, Romero de Ch?vez, Hern?ndez Gami?o, P?rez Franco, Franco de Paredes, Casillas y Cabrera, L?pez de Elizalde, Ruiz de Esparza, Gallegos, Mu?oz de Nava, Becerra, Santa Cruz, Guajardo, de Aceves, Rodr?guez de Portugal, G?mez de Portugal, Guti?rrez de Hermosillo, Guti?rrez de Mendoza, Guti?rrez Rubio, Mu?oz de Hermosillo, Rodr?guez de Fr?as, Gonz?lez de H?jar, Rodr?guez de H?jar, de la Torre Ledezma, Delgadillo, Vallejo, Cornejo, Covarrubias, Arias Maldonado, Gonz?lez de Rubalcava, Villalobos, de Anda Altamirano, de la C?mara y Menoyo, Mar?n de Pe?aloza, de Loza, Fern?ndez de Rueda, Castellanos, Valdivia, Torres, de Ochoa Garibay, Navarro Gayt?n, Ort?z de Z?rate, Plascencia, Lozano Isla, Gil, Mac?as Valadez, Estrada Bocanegra, Cort?s, Ruiz de Velasco, Espa?a, Sonora, Ulloa, Sigala, de Alba, Carvajal de Ulloa, de Le?n, Murgu?a, Cano, Monte> s, de la Paz y Castro, Tello de Orozco, Camarena, Romo de Vivar, Vel?zquez, Ram?rez de Mendoza, Mu?oz de la Barba, Vargas Machuca, Enr?quez del Castillo, Marentes de Otaduy, Reynoso y Renter?a, Quijas y Escalante, Bracamonte, ??iguez, etc.> > En lo que pueda ayudarte estoy a tus ?rdenes.> Saludos.Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez.> _________________________________________________________________> Participa en nanometrajes y gana grandes premios> http://cine.prodigymsn.com/nanometraje> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> _________________________________________________________________> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> http://biggestloser.msn.com/> > ------------------------------> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > End of General Digest, Vol 25, Issue 14> ***************************************

Hola a todos,

Quería ver si alguien del grupo tiene información acerca del matrimonio
entre Juan Nepomuceno Rodríguez y Marsela de los Dolores Alvarez Tostado y
Maciel. Supongo que ellos se casaron en Jalostotitlán aproximadamente entre

In the last few weeks, I accumulated a lot of new ancestors for my parents ELIAS DE LEON and MARIA CARLOS.

Thanks to you, my Family Tree has reached 12 generations in many of my ancestral branches! There are over 1,200 individuals and almost 400 surnames!

Daniel,

I'll be glad to share! After all, sharing and consulting with each other
are central reasons for our participating in this forum.

At this time, I'am in the middle of restructuring/re-entering the data that

Ronnie,

My research notes confirm the 6 marriage entries in your message, today.

Also, as you stated, the convoluted relationships that resulted from the
marriages of siblings in one family marrying siblings in another family and

I don't think this ISabel and Isabel Velasco de Mendoza are the same person. Because The velasco one was married to Luis Carillo. Isabel Velasco would have been born ca. 1565, our Isabel should have been born ca.

Thank you for welcoming me to this wonderful group of genealogists, and want to thank personally David Mitchell and his wife Irma Romo Mitchell for recommending me. This is my 11th year of research into the state of Jalisco specifically into Encarcion De Diaz, Aguascalientes and Caqistle from which my Romo (De Vivar) lineage comes from, so my goal is to link my roots from Mexico to Spain.

Well, this is definitely good to know. I didn't know all of this before,
the origins of these two names, San Juan de los Lagos and Lagos de Moreno.
So, that means, my ancestors are definitely from Lagos de Moreno, before

Hey who wants to work with me to contact the folks that are organizing this conference? I'd love to contact them and ask that they record the audio of the presentations so that those in other parts of the world that have interest in the content can also appreciate the good information. If you want to help me translate a request I'd be willing to do the rest.

Sometimes, in my research, when it says where a person is from, it will just
say "Lagos." Do they mean San Juan de los Lagos, or Lagos de Moreno? I am
trying to figure out which direction to head for my ancestral research and

Maybe history and folklore/jokes get mixed up...here is a joke I heard long
time ago about priests and traveling.

Once, when priests traveled from small towns to small towns, he stopped at
this woman's house who always hosted him upon his arrival. She was poor, but

--
Esther A. Herold

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From: larry kirkpatrick
Subject: Conference in Ramos Arizpe
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:40:03 +0000

From: sceleste_m@hotmail.comTo: research@nuestrosranchos.orgSubject: RE: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Family Search Website UpdateDate: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:58:52 -0500

I am very excited! I live in Ottawa, Canada so sometimes I wait 3 months to recieve a film. I CAN'T WAIT!!! Sofia

The reason why I was asking, is that I have been asked, to go to the
conference to man one of the vendor booths. And I am hoping to possibly see
some the ranchos members, while I'm there.

Jonathan

FYI

There were peope living in General Cepeda, Coahuila with that surname at one time.

--
Esther A. Herold

Not sure if this collection will touch the Mexican Indians but here is
some information:

14. After Columbus: Four-Hundred Years of Native American Portraiture
http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/explore/?collection=AfterCol…

I have a question for the members with ties to Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco and Guadalajara. Do any of you have any other information on this record??

JOSE YGNACIO BENITES NAVARRO
12 NOV 1808 Atotonilco El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico

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POR EL MOMENTO NO TENGO ESA INFORMACIO, PERO EN CUANTO VUELVA AL ARCHIVO, BUSCARE SOBRE ELLOS, ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO, ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO, UN CORDIAL SALUDO, ATTE. LUPITA> From: general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: General Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:46:32 -0800> > Send General mailing list submissions to> general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://lists.nuestrosranchos.org/listinfo.cgi/general-nuestrosranchos.o…; > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> general-owner@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of General digest..."> > > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> DAILY DIGEST> ****************************************> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Map from Spanish archives (arturoramos)> 2. Download pics of Castas (Lester Alvarado)> 3. Hola lupita! Tambien yo solicito tu valiosa ayuda... (jalfonsohr)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:48:25 -0800 (PST)> From: arturoramos > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Map from Spanish archives> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Message-ID:> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > > I just posted a scan of a a 1760 map of the "Fronteras de Colotlan" that I obtained from Archivo General de Indias.> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16552> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:06:04 +0000> From: Lester Alvarado > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Download pics of Castas> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi Joseph ,> > Is there any way possible to download the pics of the Castas . I've tried to download them to my memory stick but , no luck . Are we permitted to do so ? This coming Tuesday I will be attending the monthly meeting of the Sociedad de Genealogia de Monterrey and I opened my mouth and told Daniel Zambrano the current president that I was going to share them with the group . Please let me know if I can do this , and if I can how can I go about it .> > > Thanks a bunch ,> > Welester> _________________________________________________________________> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_01…; > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:34:32 -0800 (PST)> From: jalfonsohr > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hola lupita! Tambien yo solicito tu> valiosa ayuda...> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Message-ID:> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > > Mi madre--Mar?a de los Angeles Romo Quezada. naci? en Encarnaci?n de D?az, jalisco, en 1914. Sus padres, Sim?n Romo Garcia, y su madre, mar?a de la Cruz Quezada Ramirez, ambos de Encarnaci?n de D?az, Jalisco. Me gustar?a saber m?s detalles de sus familias, ya que ignoro m?s detalles...podr?as auxiliarme?> Un afectuoso saludo.> Alfonso H. Romo> > > ------------------------------> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > End of General Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5> **************************************