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Hola:

Desciendo de Maria Gertrudis Gonzalez Villalobos y Juan Jose Gonzalez Diaz del Castillo. Son del area de los altos de jalisco, pero no se bien de donde originariamente. Ellos son los padres de: Fermin y Maria Fermina, esta ultima bautizada en Santa Anita, Jalisco. Fermin caso con Francisca Ortiz de Parada y Gonzalez de Rubalcava y aunque tuvieron varios hijos, no tengo lugares de nacimiento o bautizo. Solo se que una de sus hijas, Maria Josefa Gonzalez del Castillo y Ortiz de Parada que es mi ancestro, se caso en La Union de San Antonio, Jalisco con Jose Ramon Tello de Orozco y Gonzalez Rubio originario de La Union de San Antonio. Si tienen informacion del matrimonio Gonzalez Villalobos a lo mejor somos parientes.

Saludos
Jose Humberto

Thanks Josie for all the legwork to help get us there.

I stayed at the Howard Johnson Express during my one and only visit. The rooms are very comfortable and it is within walking distance. I would like to stay there again if I go and would like to know if anyone else is staying there? I would rather not share a room with anyone and this is affordable for me. Only problem is walking home alone late in the evening. It is not the best of neighborhoods at night, typical downtown with vagrants etc. If there is someone to walk back with I will make my plans to come to the conference and stay a couple of days to do some research and meet and socialize with my fellow Ranchos members.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: Josie T. Trevino
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:04:43 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Update on Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City October 2006

2. Howard Johnson Express Inn offers us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total
$39.32) for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total
$55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons. Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility. Their toll
free number is: 1-800-541-7639. Ask for Mira or Connie and mention
"Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal, etc) and they
are walking distance from the Library (about two blocks). There is a free
trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you do not want
to walk. This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any number of days
you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY.

I have just booked my plane ticket to go to the conference. Unfortunately due to work schedule and some other trips that I have to make around the same time, I will not be able to be in Salt Lake very long. I fly in on Thursday evening and fly back out on Sunday afternoon. So basically, I plan on attending some of the sessions and getting a few hours of film viewing... probably Zacatecas informaciones matrimoniales from the mid-1600s.

Who else is confirmed thus far and where is everybody staying? If there is a critical mass of Ranchos people in one hotel or another I will go there.

The schedules for the conference itself and the daylong session done by George Ryskamp the day before the conference are available on the website in Spanish and English in easy-to-read formatted PDFs.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14949

Scroll to the bottom and the files are attached (one in Spanish and one in English)

I believe the most information is posted in Connie Dominguez family research
that she has posted on the Nuestrosranchos website, much of it covers the
Ruiz de Esparza lines.

>From: arturoramos
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are
>centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of
>a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan
>de Escobedo.

Arturo,

I am researching the Ruiz de Esparza but I have not reached back into this time period yet or into Aguascalientes. To date my Ruiz de Esparza are in Nochistlan and Jalpa Zacatecas and one in Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes. Yesterday I did find a new Ruiz de Esparza ancestor, Pablo Ruiz de Esparza soltero de 37 años se caso con Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza celive de 35 años, ambos de la Hacienda de Tlachichila. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza es hijo de Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Gertrudis Macias que viven. Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza, hija de Antonio Ruiz de Esparza finado y Maria San Juana Sigala que vive. Se casaraon en Nochistlan año de 1864.
I had to order film # 0226832, Informacion Matrimonial because the marriage films for this year did not record the names of the parents for the bride and the groom. Luckily I was able to find it yesterday in informacion matrimonial.

Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza is my GGG grandfather. He and Maria Gertrudis Macias, Valades married 30 May 1810 in Nochistlan Zac and there my trail ends. I do not have birth dates or places for either of them. They were both still living in 1864 when their son Pablo Ruiz de Esparza married Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza is the brother of my GG grandfather Mateo Ruiz de Esparza who in his marriage document to his first wife Florencia Gonzales, Ximenes (not my ancestress) on 08 Jan 1845 was said to have been from Tepezala, Jalpa Zacatecas. Mateo would have been born around 1825 in Jalpa but there are no birth records for Jalpa prior to 1884.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:50:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza

Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.

Arturo,

I am researching the Ruiz de Esparza but I have not reached back into this time period yet or into Aguascalientes. To date my Ruiz de Esparza are in Nochistlan and Jalpa Zacatecas and one in Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes. Yesterday I did find a new Ruiz de Esparza ancestor, Pablo Ruiz de Esparza soltero de 37 años se caso con Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza celive de 35 años, ambos de la Hacienda de Tlachichila. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza es hijo de Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Gertrudis Macias que viven. Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza, hija de Antonio Ruiz de Esparza finado y Maria San Juana Sigala que vive. Se casaraon en Nochistlan año de 1864.
I had to order film # 0226832, Informacion Matrimonial because the marriage films for this year did not record the names of the parents for the bride and the groom. Luckily I was able to find it yesterday in informacion matrimonial.

Jose Ynes Ruiz de Esparza is my GGG grandfather. He and Maria Gertrudis Macias, Valades married 30 May 1810 in Nochistlan Zac and there my trail ends. I do not have birth dates or places for either of them. They were both still living in 1864 when their son Pablo Ruiz de Esparza married Maria Cruz Ruiz de Esparza. Pablo Ruiz de Esparza is the brother of my GG grandfather Mateo Ruiz de Esparza who in his marriage document to his first wife Florencia Gonzales, Ximenes (not my ancestress) on 08 Jan 1845 was said to have been from Tepezala, Jalpa Zacatecas. Mateo would have been born around 1825 in Jalpa but there are no birth records for Jalpa prior to 1884.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:50:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Teresa Ruiz de Esparza

Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.

Thank you Esther, I´ll email him.

Best Regards
Jose Humberto Suarez

That discussion about using a digital camera and tripod to photograph film images was begun by me and Joseph contributed some information, including photos of the setup he uses, including a white paperboard to adjust for the "tilt" on the film viewers.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14267

We can certainly upload the GEDCOM. I am having a bit of trouble finding and
downloading the GEDCOM from Rootsweb however. If you can do that part and
send me the file, I will upload it. Otherwise, I will need more detailed
instructions on how to find your file and how to download it in its entirety.
I know it has been done before since we have done the same thing for a couple
of other members.

=====================
From: Marionicia
Date: 2006/08/19 Sat AM 01:22:04 CDT
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gedcom at rootsweb site

is it possible to transfer a gedcom file situated in www.rootsweb.com to
www.nuestrosranchos.org? if it is could some of the moderators do it for me?
database: marionicia, individual I1418 (read this as capital letter I and
number 1418)

Josie,

The "Tesoros" Festival is listed in the calendar for October simply as "Hispanic Cultural Event--Conference Center---Time to be determined---". Also, I didn't see the schedule that you said you attached to your message.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
----- Original Message -----
From: Josie T. Trevino
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] SLC Hispanic Conference in October 2006

Attached is the latest information on the upcoming Hispanic Conference in
Salt Lake City. I went to the www.lds.org website but did NOT find anything
relating
to "Tesoros de Las Americas" as stated in the message. I will check on
Monday with Ms. Jepson about this. I have also checked with the Best
Western Plaza Inn (1-801-521-0130) and they have 4 rooms left at $82.00 each
for 1 to 4 persons per room. Howard Johnson has rooms available for $39.32
($35.00 plus $4.92 tax). Mention "Ranchos Genealogy Group" or ask for
"Mira" when making reservations at Howard Johnson. Their telephone is
1-800-541-7639.

The attachments are in Spanish but I know you can read them! :-) Please
feel free to contact me if you have questions. If you are interested in
attending please send me an e-mail so I may keep up with who is going. I
hope to hear from a lot of you!

Josie in San Antonio
_____

From: Karen Jepson [mailto:JepsonKA@ldschurch.org]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:26 PM
To: Josie T. Trevino
Cc: Ruth Schirmacher
Subject: Re: Hispanic Conference in October 2006

Josie,

Ruth Schirmacher forwarded your email to me. I have attached our schedule
for the October 13-14 Hispanic Conference. We believe there will not be
any significant changes. As you may be aware, the Church is sponsoring a
"Tesoros de Las Americas" festival the following weekend and you may find
information on that event at www.lds.org under Calendar or Temple Square
Events. If you are planning a trip, you may want to arrange to stay for
that special evening.

We are very excited to have you participate in our conference. As you are
aware, it is free. We look forward to your group joining us.

Karen Jepson
Community Relations Manager
Family & Church History Department

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Josie and Others,

the nuestrosranchos.org group does not allow attachments to be sent via
emails. If you or anyone has attachments you need to upload them to the
appropriate "Files" area copy the URL of its location and then send an
email to the group with just the explanation and the URL.

thanks,

joseph

ps: I wish I was going, but I just can't make it.

Josie T. Trevino wrote:

>
>Attached is the latest information on the upcoming Hispanic Conference in
>Salt Lake City. I went to the www.lds.org website but did NOT find anything
>relating
>to "Tesoros de Las Americas" as stated in the message. I will check on
>Monday with Ms. Jepson about this. I have also checked with the Best
>Western Plaza Inn (1-801-521-0130) and they have 4 rooms left at $82.00 each
>for 1 to 4 persons per room. Howard Johnson has rooms available for $39.32
>($35.00 plus $4.92 tax). Mention "Ranchos Genealogy Group" or ask for
>"Mira" when making reservations at Howard Johnson. Their telephone is
>1-800-541-7639.
>
>The attachments are in Spanish but I know you can read them! :-) Please
>feel free to contact me if you have questions. If you are interested in
>attending please send me an e-mail so I may keep up with who is going. I
>hope to hear from a lot of you!
>
>Josie in San Antonio
> _____
>
>From: Karen Jepson [mailto:JepsonKA@ldschurch.org]
>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:26 PM
>To: Josie T. Trevino
>Cc: Ruth Schirmacher
>Subject: Re: Hispanic Conference in October 2006
>
>
>Josie,
>
>Ruth Schirmacher forwarded your email to me. I have attached our schedule
>for the October 13-14 Hispanic Conference. We believe there will not be
>any significant changes. As you may be aware, the Church is sponsoring a
>"Tesoros de Las Americas" festival the following weekend and you may find
>information on that event at www.lds.org under Calendar or Temple Square
>Events. If you are planning a trip, you may want to arrange to stay for
>that special evening.
>
>We are very excited to have you participate in our conference. As you are
>aware, it is free. We look forward to your group joining us.
>
>Karen Jepson
>Community Relations Manager
>Family & Church History Department
>
>
>
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Dear Pat:
I would translate "Malpaso" as bad or difficult pass or trail. Mal=bad,
difficult and paso=pass or trail.
Jose Aguayo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Silva Corbera"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:47 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Films/ Villanueva, Zacatecas

>
> I found an ancestor on the IGI with a reference to Santa Maria
> Mecatabasco, Villa Del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico. In checking the
> "films," on ranchos I found the Batch Number and Film listed in the
> Villanueva, Zacatecas section, with the following....
>
> Baptism (Malpaso) 1861-1869 1094628 C605391
> Baptisms (Malpaso) 1764-1846 1092946 C601071
> Baptisms (Malpaso) 1796-1813 1092949 C601073
> Baptisms (Malpaso) 1846-1872 1092947 C601072
>
> Will someone please explain what (Malpaso) means, it's not listed in my
> Spanish Dictionary. Are these four films in poor condition and difficult
> to read?
>
> Pat Silva Corbera
> Tracy CA
>

Malpaso means Bad step or bad passage. I've passed through the little
village on my way to and from Jerez. We didn't stop because, as usual,
we were in a rush. Marge:)
On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Pat Silva Corbera wrote:

>
> I found an ancestor on the IGI with a reference to Santa Maria
> Mecatabasco, Villa Del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico. In checking the
> "films," on ranchos I found the Batch Number and Film listed in the
> Villanueva, Zacatecas section, with the following....
>
> Baptism (Malpaso) 1861-1869 1094628 C605391
> Baptisms (Malpaso) 1764-1846 1092946 C601071
> Baptisms (Malpaso) 1796-1813 1092949 C601073
> Baptisms (Malpaso) 1846-1872 1092947 C601072
>
> Will someone please explain what (Malpaso) means, it's not listed in
> my Spanish Dictionary. Are these four films in poor condition and
> difficult to read?
>
> Pat Silva Corbera
> Tracy CA
>

where in Aguascalientes?

joseph

Nina Fantl wrote:

>Saludos,
> Busco informacion sobre mis antepasados de Aguascalientes, principalmente los miembros de la familia Jayme/Xaime.
> Ya he utilizado con buen exito la biblioteca de los Mormonas pero me falta mucha informacion.
> Tengo un poco de informacion sobre mi bisabuelo BUENAVENTURA JAYME (tambien se conoce come VENTURA XAIME), nacido en el siglo XVII, casado con Micaela Munoz. Me gusta enterarme de sus parientes y origen.
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> I am trying to find information about my ancestors from Aguascalientes, mainly the Jayme/Xaime family.
> I have already exhaustively searched the Family History data base on the Mormon database.
>
> My earliest ancestor that I have been able to find is Buenaventura Jayme (aka Ventura Xaime). His wife was Micaela Munoz. They were born in the 1700's.
>
> I am thinking that my Jayme ancestors came from Uxue, Navarro, Spain.
>
> I am also trying to find out information about the following places in Aguascalientes:
> Rancho San Guillermo
> Hacienda Nueva
> Rancho de las Trofas en El Llano
> San Antonio
> San Jose, El Calvillo
>
> Other surnames in my tree in Aguascalientes are:
> DELGADO, MACIAS, ESPARZA, LOPEZ, ESCOBAR, De LOERA
>
> My great grandfather was Emiliano Jayme born in Rancho San Guillermo on August 8, 1857.
>
> Thanks,
> Nina Jayme Fantl
>
>
>
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