African American Lives

This series was one of the best and most interesting I have ever seen. Would that it would happen to us Mexican Americans. Marge:)



On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:53 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:


thanks Victor. . .I checked and its on tomorrow. Amazing.



joseph





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thanks Victor. . .I checked and its on tomorrow. Amazing.



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Joseph,
 
The show is called African American Lives and it will be shown again on
February 12 at 1:00 am PST.  Most of their programs are available on video
from their PBS.org store.  Our local PBS channel 9 in my area has a store
in Seattle.
 
Emilie
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:07
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] DNA testing
advances

there is a DNA testing that they say can tell you what part of
Africa you came from. . .I don't know to much about it other than what they
claim:

http://africanancestry.com/

if
you find out when that show will be on next or if its available via
Blockbuster or someplace let us know. I'd like to see it as I share the same
blood as you, well you never know, at least the same as that coming from the
same continent.

joseph



Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

The public service chanel here in Everett, Chanel 9 has a show on the 
genealogy search

Another AER Record at Ancestry.com

Joseph,
 
I think I had asked them to e-mail me the records since I couldn't navigate
well enough to find them on my own, and they would only fax them or mail
them.
 
Emilie
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at Ancestry.com



Emilie Garcia wrote:

Joseph,

Here is another ancestor of mine.  I had trouble finding him
because by the 1700s they were spelling it Marcelino Suriano and his
descendants had turned into mulatos in Salitrillo.   
 
I remember that when I tried to get some records from Seville, they
would only send it to me if I had a fax machine.  I don't have one, but
that would have been neat to get them that way and not wait so long for the
snail-mail.

don't know to much about it, but i almost
got ready to order from them once and don't remember them wanting to do it

DNA testing advances

This didn't go through the first time....I am resending it....
 
Hi Linda,
 
I also watched that show.  I found it was much easier to understand
and follow than what is currently "out there".  Relating to the show's
discussion on Angola, it said that one out of every 4 African Americans were
believed to be from that area.  For those of you that didn't get to watch
the show, here is a clip of it:
 
I might have mentioned that I have done some research on the African
Diaspora, in particular throughout Latin America.  While I wished I could
have done much more research, and I am by no means an expert, I can share
this:  Spain was very much involved in the slave trade as were the British,
Dutch, and Portuguese and to a lessor extent the French.
 
Even though Spain and England agreed to stop the slave trading NORTH OF THE
EQUATOR in the early 1800's, they continued exporting slaves south of equator
for decades later.So, there were waves of

Another AER Record at Ancestry.com





Emilie Garcia wrote:

Joseph,

Here is another ancestor of mine.  I had trouble finding him
because by the 1700s they were spelling it Marcelino Suriano and his
descendants had turned into mulatos in Salitrillo.   
 
I remember that when I tried to get some records from Seville,
they would only send it to me if I had a fax machine.  I don't have
one, but that would have been neat to get them that way and not wait so
long for the snail-mail.

don't know to much about it, but i almost got ready to order from them
once and don't remember them wanting to do it via fax only. I thought
they had options for mailing copies and mailing film and yes it was at
a price that had to be in Euros only,



joseph

 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ----

Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Recordinfo



about Marchion Soriano

Name: Marchion Soriano

DNA testing advances

there is a DNA testing that they say can tell you what part of Africa
you came from. . .I don't know to much about it other than what they
claim:



http://africanancestry.com/



if you find out when that show will be on next or if its available via
Blockbuster or someplace let us know. I'd like to see it as I share the
same blood as you, well you never know, at least the same as that
coming from the same continent.



joseph







Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

The public service chanel here in Everett, Chanel 9 has a show on the 
genealogy search for Blacks to find thier genetic makeup. Since I have 
traced 3 Mulato lines in 3 different states, Jalisco, Zacatecas and 
Michoacan  I was very interested in what they had to say.  They shared 
the fact that the Portuguese controlled the slave trade and that in 
the time frame I'm looking at, mid 1600's the odds are the slaves were 
from Angola. They shared the major advancments they are making daily 
in genetic testing now being able to

DNA testing advances

Hi Linda,
 
I also watched that show.  I found it was much easier to understand
and follow than what is currently "out there".  Relating to the show's
discussion on Angola, it said that one out of every 4 African Americans were
believed to be from that area.  For those of you that didn't get to watch
the show, here is a clip of it:
 
I might have mentioned that I have done some research on the African
Diaspora, in particular throughout Latin America.  While I wished I could
have done much more research, and I am by no means an expert, I can share
this:  Spain was very much involved in the slave trade as were the British,
Dutch, and Portuguese and to a lessor extent the French.
 
Even though Spain and England agreed to stop the slave trading NORTH OF THE
EQUATOR in the early 1800's, they continued exporting slaves south of equator
for decades later.So, there were waves of the African Diaspora, coming from
different parts of Africa at

DNA testing advances

Linda,
 
I saw that show the other evening, too.  My husband watched too, and
he was amazed.  It was especially interesting to me, since I am discovering
just how many mulato lines I have on my father's side from Zacatecas.  It
should be interesting to whites too to find out that they may have as much as
11% African blood as that genetecist found out (and his mother told him to stop
talking about it-he looked nothing but white), and that someone like the
professor that narrated the show had 50% white blood even though anyone looking
at him would say he was black.  When Oprah saw the documents for her black
slave ancestors and she cried, I cried too.  It was interesting too that
blacks had Asian blood too. 
 
My father's Spanish ancestors, the Olagues and Tinajeros (Felix/Suriano)
were all mulatos by the mid and late 1700's. 
 
I really want to send for those DNA kits now,
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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DNA testing advances

The public service chanel here in Everett, Chanel 9 has a show on the 
genealogy search for Blacks to find thier genetic makeup. Since I have 
traced 3 Mulato lines in 3 different states, Jalisco, Zacatecas and 
Michoacan  I was very interested in what they had to say.  They shared 
the fact that the Portuguese controlled the slave trade and that in 
the time frame I'm looking at, mid 1600's the odds are the slaves were 
from Angola. They shared the major advancments they are making daily 
in genetic testing now being able to isolate genes to find what 
percentages we are of different ethnic backgrounds.  I find this all 
very exciting and hope if you get the chance that you will get to 
watch this very informative show. Even if you have no black ancestors 
the sharing of genetic information and genealogy research methods is 
great and well worth watching.
Linda in Everett





Another AER Record at Ancestry.com

Joseph,

Here is another ancestor of mine.  I had trouble finding him because
by the 1700s they were spelling it Marcelino Suriano and his
descendants had turned into mulatos in Salitrillo.   
 
I remember that when I tried to get some records from Seville, they would
only send it to me if I had a fax machine.  I don't have one, but that
would have been neat to get them that way and not wait so long for the
snail-mail.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ----

Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Recordinfo


about
Marchion Soriano

Name: Marchion Soriano
Year: 1526
Place: America
Source Publication Code: 8870
Primary Immigrant: Soriano, Marchion
Annotation: Chronological list of passengers to Spanish America (including
Florida and Louisiana, 1538-1559)

AER Records at Ancestry.com

yes you will find the same information on the AER and very very very
much more below is a pinch of what will be found on the AER



joseph



Emilie Garcia wrote:

Joseph,

Below is a copy of what I found today on one of my ancestors in
Ancestry.com.  The original entry in Ancestry.com that I printed out
back in August 2004 said "Extracted from documents in the Archivo
General de Indias in Seville, copies of which are among the holdings of
the Family History Library in Salt Lake City".  Now I notice that this
entry has that sentence truncated after "copies of".  I wonder why they
did that?  Did they not want the public to know that the FHC has those
records, or did the FHC make them eliminate that part?  They only give
some book as a resource. 
 
That time that I tried to navigate the AER online, I got as far
as getting a password and I pulled up any old record, and it was
amazing!  The actual photo of the document from the 1500s appeared on
the screen and it had

AER Records at Ancestry.com

Joseph,

Below is a copy of what I found today on one of my ancestors in
Ancestry.com.  The original entry in Ancestry.com that I printed out back
in August 2004 said "Extracted from documents in the Archivo General de Indias
in Seville, copies of which are among the holdings of the Family History Library
in Salt Lake City".  Now I notice that this entry has that sentence
truncated after "copies of".  I wonder why they did that?  Did they
not want the public to know that the FHC has those records, or did the FHC make
them eliminate that part?  They only give some book as a resource. 
 
That time that I tried to navigate the AER online, I got as far as getting
a password and I pulled up any old record, and it was amazing!  The actual
photo of the document from the 1500s appeared on the screen and it had all kinds
of info, but the destination was also "Nuevo Espana" (like in the one below) not
any particular state in Mexico because there probably weren't any states yet.

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

not sure, i don't think so.



yes joining that list is so user unfriendly. . .you'll just have to
fiddle with the instructions until you get it. sorry but it is hard to
finally get subscribed.



in fact if I had to subscribe today I'd have to read the instructions
myself. . .I don't remember how I did it.



joseph



Emilie Garcia wrote:

Joseph,
 
Are these the same archives that are in Ancestry.com?  I found
one of my ancestors on their Immigration Section for 1550 on that
website (you must be a subscriber).  I tried the instructions for the
AER and couldn't follow them.  Soy muy mensa (technically challenged). 
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject:
Re: [ranchos] AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

the instruction are in the Ranchos2 files area. go there and look for
this folder:


AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

Joseph,
 
Are these the same archives that are in Ancestry.com?  I found one of
my ancestors on their Immigration Section for 1550 on that website (you must be
a subscriber).  I tried the instructions for the AER and couldn't follow
them.  Soy muy mensa (technically challenged). 
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:34
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] AER is Archivos
Españoles en Red

the instruction are in the Ranchos2 files area. go there and
look for this folder:

Archivos
Espanoles en Red

Instructions for Accessing
this Archive of Archives in Spain


Linda R Romero wrote:

How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish?  Just walk me  
through the words so I can sign up.  In case you're wondering how I  
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search  
using my family names.  When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

the instruction are in the Ranchos2 files area. go there and look for
this folder:





href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/files/Archivos%20Espanoles%20en%20Red/">Archivos
Espanoles en Red



Instructions for Accessing this Archive of Archives
in Spain




Linda R Romero wrote:


cite="">
How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish?  Just walk me  
through the words so I can sign up.  In case you're wondering how I  
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search  
using my family names.  When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate  
it later.  Simple, time consuming, and not very accurate.  But it is  
all I can do.

Linda


 
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How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish? Just walk me
through the words so I can sign up. In case you're wondering how I
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search
using my family names. When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate
it later. Simple, time consuming, and not very accurate. But it is
all I can do.


Linda

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

Sorry about that Deena.  I hate it when people throw acronyms at me 
and now you have caught me doing just that.

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red 

Anyone can sign up for an account and they are in the process of 
digitizing (scanning) all of their collection and for those documents 
that have already been digitized, you can simply pull them up and 
view them online through the AER website:

http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

I think the Sombrerete Padron that Joseph mentions is the following.  
If so it is not yet digitized, but you can probably order a hard copy.

Archivo  Archivo General de Indias  
Código de referencia  ES.41091.AGI/16403.15.1564//INDIFERENTE,1526  
Título  Padrones generales de los habitantes de Indias  
Alcance y Contenido  Padrones generales de los habitantes de Indias.  
Nivel de Descripción  Fracción de Serie-Unidad de Instalación  
Fecha(s)  [f] 1777  
Signatura(s)  INDIFERENTE,1526  
Volumen    1  Legajo(s) 
 
Productor(es)   Información de Contexto

Colotlan, Fresnillo, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Tlaltenango: Unfilmed genealogical documents and genealogical books

I am very interested in knowing more about the "unfilmed" records of
Sombrerete. You say the information should be available shortly via AER. I
am not familiar with this term.


~Deena Ortiz~

Message: 9
  Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:54:37 -0000
  From: "Arturo Ramos" 

 As far as all of the other documents that you mention, those are all in
custody of the Spanish Ministry of Culture in Spain, thus Samuel
Sanchez's team that is presently in Zacatecas would not really be able
to film those very easily.  Those should become available digitally any
time now via AER.  If not, you can order copies of the documents or
films from them.  I have done so already and they are very efficient,

if expensive.



Colotlan, Fresnillo, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Tlaltenango: Unfilmed genealogical documents and genealogical books

Joseph:

Though Colotlan is in the State of Jalisco for governmental purposes, 
its parrish is part of the Diocese of Zacatecas and geographically it 
is basically part of Zacatecas as there is no way in or out of the town 
without going through Zacatecas.

As far as all of the other documents that you mention, those are all in 
custody of the Spanish Ministry of Culture in Spain, thus Samuel 
Sanchez's team that is presently in Zacatecas would not really be able 
to film those very easily.  Those should become available digitally any 
time now via AER.  If not, you can order copies of the documents or 
films from them.  I have done so already and they are very efficient, 
if expensive.




Ignorance is not Bliss

Hola de nuevo
En el mismo "buscar en la web" escribe : enciclopedia de los municipios de mexico zacatecas, yo no vi en historia algo relacionado con esos años, pudiera ser que hubo una sequia o tal vez una epidemia, tal vez en algun libro de algun cronista e Jalpa. Espero haber sido de ayuda      hasta la proxima te dice
                              Leticia Leon Morales y te deseo suerte

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I have sent information to all interested parties who have responded 
so far, although a few people have mentioned not receiving my replies.

If you have not received my emails concerning the location of the 
meeting, please write me at rosalindamruiz@... .  Perhaps my 
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Thanks,

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Ignorance is not Bliss

Leticia,
 
Si leo el español pero no lo escribo muy bien. le hago la lucha, salga como salga. Mira Leticia, cuando mande el correo ya habia buscado en el sitio de Jalpa pero no da mucha informacion detallada acerca de la historia de Jalpa en los años que busco. Busco de los años 1838 a 1848 que parece ser cuando llegaron muchas gentes de Jalpa a Tlachichila. En el sitio de Jalpa hablan de los años antes y despues pero no durante estos años.
 
Gracias por tu respuesta........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

leticia leon wrote:

Hello Alicia, I wish you read spanish. Whenever I search for info about any town of Mexico I write the name in that space that says "search in the web" in my cp. I did it arter reading you message and jalpa has a site. I did open
the first item.  It is nice. in one of the options, wich is "jalpa" it opens into more options, so hope you luck              Leticia Leon Morales



 
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