Nuestros Ranchos Site

Dear Friends,

The message below was posted at the "Genealogía de México" group and I
thought some of you might be interested in knowing about an event such
as this.

Saludos,
Victor

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CENTRO UNIVERSITARIO DEL NORTE
UNIVERSIDAD DE GUADALAJARA

 Invita al  PRIMER ENCUENTRO DE ESPECIALISTAS
SOBRE LA REGIÓN NORTE DE JALISCO
22, 23 Y 24 de febrero del 2006.
Colotlán, Jalisco.

PRESENTACIÓN

El Norte de Jalisco es una región de gran complejidad sociocultural debida
la convergencia de diversos procesos históricos, sociales, económicos y
culturales.

La evolución histórica de esta zona del Estado y su actual estructura se
deben a las particularidades de su territorio y ambiente. Estos aspectos
fueron determinantes para las formas de cultura establecidas aquí desde la
antigüedad y hasta nuestros días, por lo que desde épocas tempranas sus
pobladores tuvieron rasgos culturales característicos.

Los movimientos sociales en esta tierra también han

Opinion....
Sadly, many so called Americans would like to send
such people back to Mexico, no matter what their
circumstance.  

After watching a number of our American politicians
(mostly Republicans) blame our illegal cousins for all
the problems in this country, I truly believe racism
and deep hate for our kind still exists in this
country.

Alberto Duarte Prieto

--- glo Sandoval-Fuentes 
wrote:

> Jessica,
> 
> boy are you so right. It is impossible since 9/11.
> 
> I work with juvenile boys. And its sad, I had one
> boy and many others but 
> this one in particular. Was brought here as a baby,
> his mom never got around 
> to getting his papers. So when he graduated our
> program he earned his 
> diploma and a scholarship to an art institution.
> 
> Only when we tried to get him legal we ran into road
> block after road block. 
> Basically there was no way of getting them unless he
> went back to mexico and 
> started from there. Yet the kid had NO ties to
>

Jessica,

boy are you so right. It is impossible since 9/11.

I work with juvenile boys. And its sad, I had one boy and many others but
this one in particular. Was brought here as a baby, his mom never got around
to getting his papers. So when he graduated our program he earned his
diploma and a scholarship to an art institution.

Only when we tried to get him legal we ran into road block after road block.
Basically there was no way of getting them unless he went back to mexico and
started from there. Yet the kid had NO ties to mexico at all nor would he
know anyone there or his way around. It was a SAD situtation. We helped him
all we could but finally he just went to work with his dad working
illegally. It was so sad cuz the kids was a GREAT artist.

              ~~glo~~







From: Jessica Castaneda 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Immigration standards
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:30:19 -0600

I work

Joseph,

I updated my Olague-Tinajero tree (Tepetongo, Jerez, Salitrillo, 
Marecito, Salitral, Estancia).  Where have you put it?  I can't find 
the link to it on Ranchos.  It is a link to the Ahnanfatel list of this 
tree on WorldConnect that you uploaded for me.  It now has six 
generations starting with my grandfather Francisco Olague who was born 
in Salitrillo in 1872.

I have added another generation on four lines and filled in some 
missing dates and places in others.  Surnames in this tree include 
Olague, Tinajero, Salasar, Flores, Felis, Suriano, Acevedo, Miranda, 
Campos, Munos, Lucio, Quijas, Mata, Ramires, Escovedo, Banegas, de 
Aro.  The Surianos and Quijas were mulatos.  The Olagues and Tinajeros 
were Espanol.  There are very few Yndio or Mestiso.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA.

Joseph,

I have a file ready for upload. It is a 65-page word document (729KB) in modified Register format, containing 541 persons surnamed delaCruz, Ramírez, de Lara, Córdova, Puentes, Rodríguez, Herrera, Váladez, Mares, Quíroz, and others, with copious footnotes. Ninety percent are from San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos, Aguascalientes, México.

What is the procedure? Shall I e-mail it to you?

Best regards,

 Stuart                            mailto:stuarta@...

I'm working on baptism and marriage records for my Gutierrez and
Alvares del Castillo families who lived in
Tamazula Jalisco from
1760's to my grandmothers departer to the states in 1923.  I found
them in Chilchota Michoacan  before that going back to about 1620 or
so including the maternal lines Morfin, Valencia and Lievana. In
this town I've found 3

I'm working on baptism and marriage records for my Gutierrez and 
Alvares del Castillo families who lived in Tamazula Jalisco from 
1760's to my grandmothers departer to the states in 1923.  I found 
them in Chilchota Michoacan  before that going back to about 1620 or 
so including the maternal lines Morfin, Valencia and Lievana. In 
this town I've found 3 different lines of Gutierrez.  Gutierrez de 
Raya, Gutierrez de Robles and just plain Gutierrez, my line with 
intermarriages with the other two Gutierrez families.  My line of 
Gutierrez are Mestiso with the other two being Espanol.

I'm finding in the records facts that I hadn't seen before and was 
wondering if others have encountered them in other states too.  I'm 
find exclavos Espanoles, that was something I had not encountered 
before.  How would a Spaniard end up a slave?  Another finding is 
how many babies were baptised at home by a regular person when they 
were afraid the baby was going to die or in danger and then later

http://JosephPuentes.com/Rabbit_Snake_BrighterOPT.jpg

I'm a Snake and Figen is a Rabbit

Happy Year of the Dog to you all

joseph

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Jessica Castaneda  wrote:
>
> I work with migrant workers in my job. I am appalled sometimes at the
> amount of difficulties and prejudices they face. It is virtually
> impossible for those that are illegal to become "legal".

Jessica,

I agree that there are major problems with immigration laws and
standards in the USA, and that these issues need to be addressed. I do
not wish to minimize that at all but simply to observe it is difficult
to get into many, if not most, industrialized countries of the world.
If you are an American, you will find it difficult to get into
Australia, New Zealand (nearly impossible), and some countries in
Europe on a permanent basis. My English, Asian, Indonesian, Turkish,
and Australian friends tell me horror stories about trying to obtain
appropriate papers to "work" here in USA on more than a temporary
basis. Everybody wants to work in a country where if you work hard
enough you will be rewarded.

The kind

For those of you who have been waiting, for the Disc, it is now ready 
and will be sent out on Wed. to those who have sent me their addresses 
and money.  

I hope that those who will receive a copy will be able to use the 
information found on the disc.

Jonathan