More surnames we need to cross-check!!

Angie:

 

I was reading your files tonight and came across many other surnames we share, and will need to cross check to see if they connect somewhere:

 

Besides Campos and Castaneda: De La Torre(s); De Luna; Magallanes; Miromontes; Robles; Sanchez;Ulloa; Valensuela.

 

I think there are others too, but  I want to go back through my records to make sure what they are.  Also, they are from the same areas as your ancestors, and same time period.  Will get back with you when i have done some more research.  We absolutely connect!!

 

Regards,

Carol

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Campos/Soto Family

Thanks, Angie.  Carol, you are related to me, since, as Angie noticed, you descend from Juan Manuel Campos, the son of Juan de Campos and Antonia de Soto Almeyda.  Antonia was the daughter of Francisco de Soto Almeyda and Juana Magdalena de Salazar, and Antonia was the sister of my ancestor, Diego de Soto Almeyda.  How exciting!  Welcome to ranchos, cousin!  Write to me if you want more details.

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----
From: aajay1073
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family


Carol and I share the same Campos family.  I have traced this Campos
family to the early 1700's in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.  She also has
Castaneda from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas that are from the same time
period and location as my Castaneda...so well see if there is a match
there.

Note to Rosalinda and Stella,
Carol also shares our Soto family.  Maria Antonia De Soto, married to
Fernando Silvestre De Urena, is a cousin to Juan Manuel Campos Soto.

Angie




Campos/Soto Family

Carol and I share the same Campos family.  I have traced this Campos 
family to the early 1700's in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.  She also has 
Castaneda from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas that are from the same time 
period and location as my Castaneda...so well see if there is a match 
there.

Note to Rosalinda and Stella,
Carol also shares our Soto family.  Maria Antonia De Soto, married to 
Fernando Silvestre De Urena, is a cousin to Juan Manuel Campos Soto.

Angie




Data from Nochistlán, Zac. not found on IGI

 > In
preparation for my trip to Salt Lake City and while scouring the
family
history website I find that for my area of research,
Nochistlan, Zacatecas,
Mexico there is no extracted data to be found
before 1875.
 
Don't you mean AFTER 1875 there is no data
available.
 
Before 1875 there is a lot of data available --
more than for any other area I've searched.  You do need to work with the
films too, however.  I have all the marriage films on permanent loan, but I
only have a few of the christening records for right at the turn of the 19th
century. 
 
It is true, however, that there are no extracted
records after the late 1870's or 1880's.  I assume that it was for privacy
reasons that they did not extract them as the extraction program began at least
20 years ago and 110 years before that would be about 1875.
 
However, they did microfilm the records and the
microfilms are available.  You just have to scroll through each record to
find the one you are looking for. 

Data from Nochistlán, Zac. not found on IGI

Hello Alicia,

This sounds like a similar case to Valparaiso, Zac.  and other 
localities, where there are films but the data hasn't been extracted 
yet for the IGI.

Please let us know when you get a reply from SLC Family history 
Center.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> Joseph, Jonathan and the Group,
>  
> In preparation for my trip to Salt Lake City and while scouring the 
family history website I find that for my area of research, 
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico there is no extracted data to be found 
before 1875. 
>  
> My question to the group is could that mean that the records prior 
to 1875 were stored some place else under another municipality's name 
or could it be that they just haven't been extracted, therefore not 
on the IGI database.
>  
> According to the family history catalog, they show the film logs 
from the present all the way back to the 1600's with the authors as 
Mexico, Zacatecas, Nochistlan-and identify if

Getting Ready for Salt Lake City

Joseph, Jonathan and the Group,
 
In preparation for my trip to Salt Lake City and while scouring the family history website I find that for my area of research, Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico there is no extracted data to be found before 1875.
 
My question to the group is could that mean that the records prior to 1875 were stored some place else under another municipality's name or could it be that they just haven't been extracted, therefore not on the IGI database.
 
According to the family history catalog, they show the film logs from the present all the way back to the 1600's with the authors as Mexico, Zacatecas, Nochistlan-and identify if they're church records or civil records. This leads me to believe that the records do exist because they have film numbers assigned to them, I just can't find any data associated with film numbers of data and facts dated before 1875.
 
I did send an e-mail to the SLC family history center inquiring about this but I have not received a response

more RE: Hispanic Research Conference @NARA-DC

To read more about the conference to be held at National Archives, 
Washington, DC, see the Somos Primos website - at the bottom, click 
on NARA.  The basics, as I understand them: there will be 4-tracks - 
five sessions each:
1) Basic Concepts; 2) Intermediate/Advanced; 3) Resources - 
Washington, DC and beyond; 4)NARA
Track 1-Basics: getting started; internet resources; "El lugar es 
importante" - finding the place; parish records; civil records
Track 2-Intermediate/Advanced: Immigration & emigration records; 
reconstructing ancestral daily lives; researching in AGN in Mexico 
and from U.S.; Spanish military records; cesuses of Hispanic countries
Track 3-Resources: LOC (Library of Congress)Hispanic Reading Rm; LOC 
local history and genealogy reading rm; resources for Hispanics; 
Hispanic research in LDS Family History Centers; researching in 
National ARchives of Spain from the U.S.
Track 4-NARA:Hispanics in the Civil War; Hispanics in U.S. censuses; 
Mexican border crossing

[Fwd: Hispanics Who Owned Slaves]

Seems that awhile ago there was a message about slaveowners in Jerez.
If anyone has other documents or information on Hispanics who owned
slaves here is someone interested in that information.



thanks,



joseph



==========================================



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Hispanics Who Owned Slaves
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:57:36 -0600
From: George Gause
To: 'George Gause'




HISPANICS WHO
OWNED SLAVES



Dr. Jerry D. Thompson of Laredo is looking for information on Hispanics
who
owned slaves.

His interest is primarily in Hispanics from Texas who had slaves but he
would
also be interested

in those from Mexico who were slave holders.



Dr. Thompson is a professor of History at Texas A&M University in
Laredo
and is an authority

on the U.S. Civil War in the Southwest



Please reply either directly to Jerry Thompson [jthompson@...] and

Hispanic Research Conference @NARA


great announcement. I'm going to try to get there. maybe we can meet for
breakfast on Sunday or coffee Saturday.


if you have those details handy why not post them to the group. I will
eventually dig them out but I'm not sure when. Is it only the one day?


thanks again,

joseph


Natalie wrote:

Is anyone planning to attend the Hispanic Family History and Research
Conference on Sept. 24, 2005, at National Archives in Washington,DC?

Details on the Somos Primos website 
-ncc









Fw: Re: Introduction: Campos/Alvarez Family





Carol Lester wrote:

Introduction: Campos/Alvarez Family



okay all you Martin del Campo's out there. . .is this another cousin or
a branch you all didn't know about? Do you need to do more research
before you tie in???



I'm confident you all can do it. . .lets try to bring this Campos back
into the family after all these couple of hundred of years. I have
visions of a couple of hundred years ago one of the Martin del Campo
primos moving from one part of Los Altos to another and losing track of
the main trunk of the family and then getting permanently separated
until that is many many years later Carol Lester does extensive
research and joins Ranchos and suddenly the different branches find one
another and the trunk is made stronger by uniting again. Es como un
sueno. . .



joseph


Hello to everyone. My name is Carol Lester.  I began researching my family back in 1997.  I found researching my American family challenging, yet also found an abundance of people and paper trails

Fw: Re: Introduction: Campos/Alvarez Family


-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes 
Sent: Mar 5, 2005 8:32 PM
To: Carol Lester 
Subject: Re: Introduction:  Campos/Alvarez Family

you sent this to me not to the group. If you want to post to the group 
you need to send an email to: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

try reposting this message to that address.

thanks,

Joseph

Carol Lester wrote:

>Introduction: Campos/Alvarez Family
>
>Hello to everyone. My name is Carol Lester.  I began researching my family back in 1997.  I found researching my American family challenging, yet also found an abundance of people and paper trails . It was when I began researching my Spanish roots that I began to hit brick walls.  I soon found there was neither people nor paper trails to come by very easily.  And while I have accomplished much, I still have much to accomplish.  It is my hope that others will benefit from this accumulated research and will help me add to it.
>
>The Campos/Alvarez families are a very

Some interesting History

Hello Irma:

Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me, but who knows some people's reasoning for some things?!  

Martin Del Campos?...Where is he from and when was he born and where? Give me some feedback..I come from a very LONG line of "Campos"!!

By the way, Joseph is working on putting my file together for the group to view.  It should be available before long.  You will see I wasn't KIDDING about my long line!!
REgards,
CarolLester (NanaCarolL@...)

New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

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  Uploaded by : makas_nc  
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You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Helen%20C.%20Lester%20%28NANACAROLL%40peoplepc.com%29/Juan%20Manuel%20De%20Campos%20Soto 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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ranchos] Maps URL



both look great. I found some ranchos on the other that weren't on
Encarta, but the details looked better on Encarta. Both are good and
I'm adding them to the links file for "Maps."



thanks Ed, Thanks Lorenzo



joseph



Edward Serros wrote:

ranchos] Maps URL
Joseph,



I like the Encarta database better. http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/mapcenter/map.aspx



I can find just about any city in the world.



Ed





------ Forwarded Message

From: Joseph Puentes

Reply-To:

Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:24:55 -0500

To: LosRanchos

Subject: [ranchos] Maps URL





Thanks to Lorenzo Cuesta for this URL:  http://www.travelpost.com



just zoom in and you get a fairly good detail map of the ranchos around


the main pueblos for your area.



joseph







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Madrid and Barcelona

great. . . I didn't know they were available in Mex. City. I'll keep
that in mind for a future trip.



thanks,



joseph



MMG8938@... wrote:


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face="Arial" lang="0">Joseph:



I went to Sevilla and also went to the Archivo.  You just do not walk
in.  You need letters, pictures.....then you will get a card which will
allow you in....

I was looking for census records....they were in the Guadalajara
Archives.....they can be obtained in Mexico City....I got the 1777
Durango Census from Archivo de las Indias....



Mickey


Madrid and Barcelona



no i haven't I was mainly trying to see if there was anything in Madrid
or Barcelona for my cousins parents to check.



thanks for your suggestions. . .if I live long enough maybe Ill be able
to followup on some of them.



joseph



MMG8938@... wrote:


face="arial,helvetica">
face="Arial" lang="0">Joseph:



Have you checked with the Archives in Mexico City?  Also, you may be
able to find them in the church records.



Mickey





Maps URL

Great! I found names of the ranches outside of Jerez.

Thanks.

Alberto.
--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> Thanks to Lorenzo Cuesta for this URL: 
> http://www.travelpost.com
> 
> just zoom in and you get a fairly good detail map of
> the ranchos around 
> the main pueblos for your area.
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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% of Films Transcribed to IGI

Hello Jonathan,

Thanks for your insight about this matter.  

Do you have an idea what kind of changes are going to be made in the 
extraction program in SLC?  Are things not moving along fast enough 
or something?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "mexicanfhr"  wrote:
> 
> There are a lot of films, that are still waiting to be extracted. 
> Also, there alot of batch numbers, that are not on the Parish and
> Vital Records list.
> 
> I am aware, that there are people, who have gotten permission, from
> Salt Lake, to extract all the records, from a certain area.  I would
> assume, that one needs to contact the Extraction Deptment, in Salt
> Lake.  And from, what I've heard lately, there is going to be some
> changes, in the extraction program, later on this year.
> 
> thanks,
> Jonathan  
> 





Copies of the Parish and Vital Records List

thank you so much for this kind offer. . .



For those considering requesting this highly valuable and info packed
CD i'd suggest that you email him and toss in a little
something for the time, trouble, and cost of mailing. Believe me the
material is well worth a nice offering especially if you are doing
research in other estados of Mejico.



but please do contact him off list at the
email address given in this email below. . .don't just hit reply and
say, "Me too" or "send me a copy as well" or words of that affect.



thanks,



joseph



Here's Jonathan's email address again: 

jonathan@...



mexicanfhr wrote:

For all of you, who are wanting a copy of the Parish and Vital Records
list, please send me your mailing address.  Because, due to the size
of the file(25 meg),  I am going to just burn a CD, with the Parish
and Vital Records list and other Mexican genealogical information,
that I've collected over the years.  And send it, to those who want a
copy.

Thanks,
Jonathan

jonathan@

Copies of the Parish and Vital Records List

For all of you, who are wanting a copy of the Parish and Vital Records
list, please send me your mailing address.  Because, due to the size
of the file(25 meg),  I am going to just burn a CD, with the Parish
and Vital Records list and other Mexican genealogical information,
that I've collected over the years.  And send it, to those who want a
copy.

Thanks,
Jonathan

jonathan@...




% of Films Transcribed to IGI

There are a lot of films, that are still waiting to be extracted. 
Also, there alot of batch numbers, that are not on the Parish and
Vital Records list.

I am aware, that there are people, who have gotten permission, from
Salt Lake, to extract all the records, from a certain area.  I would
assume, that one needs to contact the Extraction Deptment, in Salt
Lake.  And from, what I've heard lately, there is going to be some
changes, in the extraction program, later on this year.

thanks,
Jonathan  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> Well I'm thinking about it and I'm taking this discussion to the
group. . .
> 
> oh absolutely I understand what you are asking now. Yes yes it takes 
> volunteers to transscribe the info off of the films to then input into 
> the IGI and other databases. When it comes down to it I'm sure that
only 
> a very small % of the films available are online. If you want Valpariso 
> maybe you should call SLC and ask them about it.