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Open For Discussion/Limiting Specific Discussion

this is open for discussion:



The idea was brought up about suggesting that specific discussion about
particular details of genealogy ties be taken to private email after
the inital flow of communication since it would not be revelent to most
members of the group. Hmmm . . .



Well first off it seems to me that in the recent upsurge of discussion
"provoked" by Carol Lester (con carino) Maria Cortez might have been
"forgotten" for possibly awhile if that thread had been quickly taken
to private email. I really don't like putting a rule on this kind of
thing. As long as its on topic I say let it all be said. Maybe we can
just kind of internally consider when discussion about a particular
connection between members has been sufficiently
"advertised" so that all have had a fair chance at getting the message.
On a volunteer basis we can then just let these threads fade into
private email that is until some part of it needs to be brought back to
the group like an addition to the genealogy

Is this name Unusual?


FELIPA NERI PALAFOX MEDINA  		
01 JUN 1794   	San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
  	Father:  	YSIDRO PALAFOX 	Family
  	Mother:  	MARIA SIMONA MEDINA 	
	C602865  	1790 - 1805  	0443675
===================================================
===================================================
FELIPE NERI SERRANO AVILA
08 JUN 1803       San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
      Father:      PEDRO SERRANO     Family
      Mother:      MARIA CORONA DE AVILA
    C602865      1790 - 1805      0443675
=============================

Has anyone heard the name Felipe/Felipa Neri much?



I found this blip about Neri it sounds Italian:

http://www.midrealm.org/heraldry/escutcheon/0011/0011.html

3) Catalana Di Neri. New Name.

(Würm Wald)

The client attaches a letter from Saint Gabriel (#1737) but provides no
summary (again, my apologies for any error in summarizing the contents).
The name (spelled Catalana di Neri) is described as "typical" of late
15th century Italy. Catalana is documented

Totatiche/San Cristobal De La Barranca: Lookups Request



if anyone has the time next time you're looking I'd appreciate a
lookup, thanks,



joseph



===================


Dolores
ENRIQUEZ
      Age
At Marriage: 
42
Sex:


Event(s):    
Birth: 1820> Place: Rancho
de Animas

Parents:    
  Father: Juan
ENRIQUEZ
  Mother: Trinidad
DEL MURO

Marriage:    
Spouse: Petra
FLORES
Age At
Marriage:
 30
Marriage: 23
Jun 1862
Place: Totatiche,
Jalisco, Mexico

Notes:    
   Husband
previously married
 

"Dos Reales Cedules"

Well that is DEFINITELY much better.  I had
originally thought the item was a seal, like the kind imprinted on wax.:) 
Marge:)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:41
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] "Dos Reales
Cedules"

well since there seems to be a little interest and since
all I need is
not even a crack in the door to jump in with both feet. here
are some
better pictures:



Carol Turner wrote:

>Hi
Joseph, my dad just emailed me and said this coin
>is a twenty five cent
coin, he remembers his dad use
>to tell him that but he also looked it
up in the
>Spanish dictionery to be sure.

>
>Carol
>
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>
>Yahoo! Groups
Links
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>

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"Dos Reales Cedules"

well since there seems to be a little interest and since all I need is
not even a crack in the door to jump in with both feet. here are some
better pictures:




Carol Turner wrote:

Hi Joseph, my dad just emailed me and said this coin
is a twenty five cent coin, he remembers his dad use
to tell him that but he also looked it up in the

Spanish dictionery to be sure.

Carol



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"Dos Reales Cedules"

Hi, Carol!  Just wanted to tell you that my
aunt Carmen says we have a relative surnamed Muro!  Marge:)


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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Carol Turner


Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:47
PM

Subject: [ranchos] "Dos Reales
Cedules"


Hi Joseph, my dad just emailed me and said this coin
is
a twenty five cent coin, he remembers his dad use
to tell him that but he
also looked it up in the
Spanish dictionery to be sure.


Carol




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Mota and Campos

Kitty:
 
Kitty:
I am going to try and copy another file, the Alvarez file to my files on the group site. So the Alvares(z) side will be posted and available for the group.....Just in case, by some MIRACLE I find a "Alvares " (z) connection! None of the Alvares names you listed are in my records for my Alvares family. 
 
I"m sorry, I must have got confused about your Mota line.  I would really appreciate the look-ups!  So nice of you to offer! These are the names and documents I need:
 
Sara Campos Mota
b:09 APR 1896 Las Velas Zac. Mx
Parents: Lorenzo De Campos and Victoriana Mota
I also need her siblings names and birthdates.
 
So, we are related through  Juan Manuel de Campos wife', Maria Antonia Luna (my 5th generation grandmother)?  Ynes Gertrudis Luna was Antonia's sister.  How is she related to you and Rich?
 
Carol


-----Original Message-----
From: Kitty Cortez
Sent: Mar 12, 2005 12:46 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Mota and Campos

Carol
Our Victoria Mota is

"Dos Reales Cedules"

This is correct. In Powell's book about Miguel Caldera he has a footnote:
"... This peso de oro común was the basic accounting unit of the royal
treasury in Mexico, and its value was 272 maravedis, divided into eight
reales or tomines of 34 maravedis each (hence, later, the "piece of eight"
and our "bit", one eighth of a dollar). " Thus it is 2 bits or a quarter of
a peso.

George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Turner"

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:47 PM
Subject: [ranchos] "Dos Reales Cedules"



Hi Joseph, my dad just emailed me and said this coin
is a twenty five cent coin, he remembers his dad use
to tell him that but he also looked it up in the
Spanish dictionery to be sure.

Carol



Yahoo! Groups Links










"Dos Reales Cedules"

Hi Joseph, my dad just emailed me and said this coin
is a twenty five cent coin, he remembers his dad use
to tell him that but he also looked it up in the
Spanish dictionery to be sure. 

Carol

Anyone else on the East Coast?

I live in Florida.

That's a little closer to you Joseph.

Dora


--- Maria/Mark Uhlenburg 
wrote:

> I'm from Folsom, California, which is in the county
> of Sacramento.
> 
> Maria-Elena Uhlenburg-Gutierrez
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:14 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East
> Coast?
> 
> 
>   Southern California over here.
> 
> 
> 
>                  ~~glo~~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   From: Joseph Puentes 
>   Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
>   Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500
> 
>   other than California I know that we have a member
> in VA, I'm in NC, you in 
>   OH, and TX oh and UT and MA
> 
>   anyone else on the East Coast?
> 
>   joseph
> 
> 
>   Carol Lester wrote:
> 
>   >It is so exciting isn't it?!!  As for a reunion,
> that would be

Anyone else on the East Coast?

I'm from Folsom, California, which is in the county
of Sacramento.
 
Maria-Elena Uhlenburg-Gutierrez
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:14
PM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Anyone else on the
East Coast?

Southern California over
here.



              
~~glo~~






From: Joseph Puentes makas@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28
-0500

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in
NC, you in
OH, and TX oh and UT and MA

anyone else on the East
Coast?

joseph


Carol Lester wrote:

>It is so
exciting isn't it?!!  As for a reunion, that would be grand!!!  I

>live in Ohio, however..and I am assuming a lot of the ranchos group
live in
>California, and the surrounding states?
> 
Carol
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph
Puentes
>Sent: Mar 9

Group Maintenance



I've noticed that many of the members have their memberships under
either Yahoo (25) or Hotmail (3) addresses. Is this what you all want?
It is very simple to have your Rancho mail go to your main address. .
.that way you'll be on the red hot cutting edge of all the picoso
messages being sent out these days.



If you want to change addresses here is how you do it:



go to the top of the page and look for "Edit my Membership"


Search the web
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then under email address add the preferred email address where you'd
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Mota and Campos

Carol
Our
Victoria Mota is 'Manuela Victoria MOTA Serrano b. 8 Mar 1854 doc.  She is
the sister to Rich's GGgrandmother. 
We do
not have any records for Lorenzo Campos or his parents.  Lorenzo's
grandfather is Juan Manuel CAMPOS Soto married to Maria Antonia LUNA a sibling
of Rich's ancestors.   If you have birth/marriage dates for your Sara
CAMPOS Mota  or Lorenzo CAMPOS we will be happy to look for you while in
SLC. 
 
You
asked about our ALVARES line
The
correct Alvarez line we have starts with Maria Luisa
de San Carlos ALVARES  married to Juan Jose Zenon SERRANO dau of Juan Jose
ALVARES Casillas and Ma. Josefa De la Luz FLORES Ennriques.  Her
grandparents are Antonio de Paudua ALVARES and Ma. Manuela Eugenia
CASILLAS  and Nicolas FLORES and Antonia ENNRIQUES. 
 
The
incorrect Alvares line that we followed for two years is:
 Maria Luisa ALBARES also married to another Juan Jose SERRANO
Robles, dau of Santiago ALBARES  and Maria Petronila MIRAMONTES.  This
ones

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Hello Cousin Maria!

Well now, I sure do want the info you have on our relatives!  Isn't this fun?!!  I am thinking there are now THREE of you who I connect with///You/Maria; Angie/ and Kitty and Rich!  How are you related to Antonio Campos and Maria Eufracia Castaneda?  They would be my fifth generation grandparents..a direct line!

Regards
Carol Lester

-----Original Message-----
From: readysetgo95814 
Sent: Mar 11, 2005 8:52 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango



Angie,

You are so right.  In fact, I had Maria Eufrasia's birth and 
marriage details in my database.

Carol, add me to your growing list of cousins.  I have more info on 
the Castañedas I could share with you.

Unfortunately Angie, I couldn't connect any of the names on your 
list with the ones in my database.  I would think they are related 
somehow because the names, places and time periods match up, but I 
don't see the connection

Campos Families - Luna

Hello Kitty:
 
Well, I did some researching for the "Mota" line and it is absolutely the same as what you have; Benito Mota/Jose Benito Mota Ramirez, born 23 Mar 1832, Santo Thomas De Momax, Zac. Mx., to Istanislao Mota and Ramona Ramirez (IGI Familysearch/Batch#: C600843/1829-1850.  Marriage to Maria De La Paz De Los Reyes, 23 Dec. 1857, Santo Thomas De Momax, Zac. Mx.(IGI Familysearch/Batch #: C600844/1850-1875.   The child I am interested in is "Maria Victoriana Mota Reyes", born 23 Dec 1857, Santo Thomas De Momax, Zac. Mx. (IGI Familysearch/Batch #: C600844/1850-1875.
This is my Victoriana Mota who married Lorenzo De Campos (Son of Jose Manuel De Campos//Antonioe De Campos/Juan Manuel De Campos  Soto.).  One of their children was Sara Campos Mota, my grandmother.    What I would like to know is do you have birth record for Lorenzo's children?  If so, I would very much like to have copies of them.  Also, I am curious about the Alvarez that is in your line?
 
Regards,
Carol Lester


---

Ygnacio Correa and Maria Juliana Torres

Peggy,

Here is some information, I am not sure if you already have it.

YGNACIO CORREA
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARIA JULIANA TORRES
  Marriage:  14 OCT 1811   Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M600819  1807 - 1848  0445048   

Children:
JOSE APOLINARIO CORREAS TORRES
Gender: Male Christening: 23 JUL 1812 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

PABLO YGNACIO CORREAS TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 16 JAN 1814 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

JOSE BUENAVENTURA DE JESUS CORREA TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 19 JUL 1815 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

MA. DE LA TRINIDAD CORREA TORRES
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JAN 1817 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 

JOSE EUGENIO CORREA TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 16 NOV 1819 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

MARIA YGNACIA CORREA TORRES
Gender

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Angie,

You are so right.  In fact, I had Maria Eufrasia's birth and 
marriage details in my database.

Carol, add me to your growing list of cousins.  I have more info on 
the Castañedas I could share with you.

Unfortunately Angie, I couldn't connect any of the names on your 
list with the ones in my database.  I would think they are related 
somehow because the names, places and time periods match up, but I 
don't see the connection right now. Maybe in time we'll connect them.

For now...thanks for pointing out my connection to Carol's 
Castañedas.  I had looked at her folder, but somehow missed it.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> 
> Maria,
> 
> It seems you and Carol share the same Castaneda, since she 
descends 
> from Maria Eufrasia CASTANEDA TORRE daughter of Manuel Castañeda 
and 
> Maria Antonia de la Torre, married to Anttonio Casimirio CAMPOS 
LUNA 
> son of Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO and Maria Anttonia DE LUNA.
> 
> Here is my

CinecioMarquez/AntoniaValenzuela

Thanks!!!

 

-----Original
Message-----

From: Joseph Puentes
[mailto:makas@...]

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:36
PM

To: LosRanchos

Subject: [ranchos]
CinecioMarquez/AntoniaValenzuela

 

These should give you the next generation back:


JOSE HERMENEGILDO MARQUEZ VALENZUELA

 

 

Male

 

 

 



Event(s):

Birth: 

 

 

Christening: 


17 APR 1823  

San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

Death: 

 

 

Burial: 

 

 

 


 

 



Parents:

 

Father: 

JOSE
CINECIO MARQUEZ

Family

 

Mother: 

MARIA
ANTONIA VALENZUELA

 

 


CinecioMarquez/AntoniaValenzuela

These should give you the next generation back:


JOSE HERMENEGILDO MARQUEZ
VALENZUELA

  Male    

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
17
APR 1823  
San Luis, Colotlan,
Jalisco, Mexico
Death: 
Burial: 

Parents:
  Father:  JOSE
CINECIO MARQUEZ
Family
  Mother:  MARIA
ANTONIA VALENZUELA
 

Messages:
Extracted
birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or

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Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

Hi Angie!

Yes,
thanks to your help earlier last year, I was able to fill in some of the
Raigosa lines.

 

My Correa
line is through my paternal great grandmother, Maria Correa, born 8/1891 in
Tlaltenango.

Her mother
was Maria Antonia Correa.  In the
civil registry/birth record, it was said that her father was “unknown’, and
that she would keep

Her maternal
surname of Correa.  However in
anther record, they DO list the father as Runaldo Herrera who’s parents were
Pedro Herrera and Maria Lopez)

 

Maria
Antonia Correa’s parents were Eugenio Correa and Maria Jesus Dorado (I forgot
to put the “Dorado” name on my list) married in

5/1839 in Tepechitlan,
Zacatecas, Mexico.  Eugenio was
born in 1819 and Maria Jesus Dorado in 1823, both in Tepechitlan.  Maria Jesus Dorado’s parents were

Franco
Dorado and Venancia Estrada. 
Eugenio’s parents were Ygnacio Correa and Juliana de la Torre, years not
yet known.

They also
had the following children:

Maria
Ygnacia Correa, b 1821

Mari