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I am in no way an expert...but just a little bit of history:

In the mid 1800's there was a large migration of Irish to the U.S.  
Since these Irishman were the new arrivals they were on the 'outs' 
and treated poorly.  They were harrased for being poor, uneducated, 
and Catholic.  As people were imigrating West to the new 
territories/states entering the Union, some of the Irish went South-
West into Mexico since they identified with the Catholic people in 
Mexico.

There is a movie I saw recently called "One Man's Hero" starring Tom 
Berenger.  This is taken from the Internet Movie Database: 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120775/

One Man's Hero (1999)
"One Man's Hero" tells the little-known story of the "St. Patrick's 
Brigade" or "San Patricios," a group of Irish immigrants who deserted 
to Mexico after encountering religious and ethnic prejudice in the 
U.S. Army during the Mexican-American War. The plot centers around 
the personal story of John Riley, an Irishman who had been a

Hi all,

I've been struggling for months to decipher a word on
the attached 1880 Census Form.  Specifically, I cannot
tell what the country of origin is for the mother of
Thomas (Tomas) Hale, my GGG Grandfather.

According to family history, he was born in Monterrey,
Nuevo Leon to Irish-born parents.  I don't know why or
how they ended up in Mexico, or even his parents names
or where in Ireland they were from. 

I realize this is specific to Nuevo Leon, not a state
relevant to this listserve, but I still hope someone
with a sharper eye than my own can tell me what the
word is.

On the form, I can make out that his father was born
in Ireland but I have no idea what the word is for his
mother's country of origin. This part is not aligned
with his name, but it most certainly applies to him
(see the attached form to see what I mean) 

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Chris Pineda


		
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Hola Armando,

 

¿Que tal, como has estado?  Espero que bien. Apenas voy viendo el mensaje donde explicas tus raíces alteñas.  He estado teniendo problemas con mi conexión al Internet aquí

Hola Armando,

 

¿Que tal, como has estado?  Espero que bien. Apenas voy viendo el mensaje donde explicas tus raíces alteñas.  He estado teniendo problemas con mi conexión al Internet aquí

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Well it seems as if Yahoo's cute tricks might be messing us up a bit.
The following addresses have shown up as members of the group. If any of
them belong to you please let me know ASAP as I will shortly be deleting
them as unknown:

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Emile, were these families from Jerez?

Alberto

--- Emilie Garcia  wrote:
> Hi, Joseph,
> 
> It is a death certificate from February 7 (?)
> (siete) 1822.  He died of la grippe (gripa?).(or
> colic).  He was the  second husband of Mrs. Ramires,
> his widow, or it was his second marriage, I can't
> quite figure that out  It does look like his mother
> was Ynes Flores de Lisar.
> 
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos] I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes
> Flores de ??????
> 
> 
> If any of you have time could you look at this
> record and tell me what  
> you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is?
> Seems to me that it is
> Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. .
> .Livan. . .???
> 
> What is "Colico?"
> 
> Can anyone make out the date of the record?
> 
> shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give
> whatever details you

According to my wife, Colico (colic), has to do with a
stomach aliment.  She told me the stomach inflates
with air which sometimes results in death. 

For a long time, the drinking water in Mexico was not
treated, which probably caused many deaths, especially
in young children and older adults.

Alberto.
--- Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> Joseph,
>  
> Is this a death certificate. It seems as if it might
> say "murio de colico", meaning died of a colic.
> Does this make sense?
> Alicia
> 
> Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> If any of you have time could you look at this
> record and tell me what 
> you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is?
> Seems to me that it is
> Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. .
> .Livan. . .???
> 
> What is "Colico?"
> 
> Can anyone make out the date of the record?
> 
> shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give
> whatever details you have 
> time to decipher.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG

If any of you have time could you look at this record and tell me what
you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is? Seems to me that it is
Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. . .Livan. . .???

What is "Colico?"

Can anyone make out the date of the record?

shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give whatever details you have
time to decipher.

thanks,

joseph

ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his marriage to my GGGG
grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their daughter my GGG
grandmother Eduarda Torres--->GG grandfather Cecilio Puente--->G
grandfather Julio Puente--> grandfather Julio Puentes

AND I also believe Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather when he later
married Maria Josefa Ramirez after Gertrudis Marquez died (most likely)
and their son Rafael Torres
my GGG grandfather--->Andrea Torres

If any of you have time could you look at this record and tell me what
you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is? Seems to me that it is

Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. . .Livan. . .???

What is "Colico?"

Can anyone make out the date of the record?

shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give whatever details you have
time to decipher.

thanks,

joseph

ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his marriage to my GGGG
grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their daughter my GGG
grandmother Eduarda Torres--->GG grandfather Cecilio Puente--->G
grandfather Julio Puente--> grandfather Julio Puentes

AND I also believe Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather when he later
married Maria Josefa Ramirez after Gertrudis Marquez died (most likely)
and their son Rafael Torres my GGG grandfather--->Andrea Torres GG
grandmother-->Francisco Diaz G grandfather--->Virginia Diaz grandmother.

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Sorry about that but Yahoo just went and changed up on us.

I've been playing with the colors but can't seem to get it back to the
place we were. I don't like the yellow letters to the left but I can't
seem to change those colors. If someone out there with more color
aptitude than I wants to send me a few suggestions I'll give them a try.

thanks,

joseph

ps: April 15th is just a matter of days away.

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Ali

Peggy,

I just checked the "Diccionario Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de
los Estados Unidos Mexicanos" by Antonio García Cubas, there is a link
to it in the links section of the group.  It talks about a Teul in
Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.

I hope this helps.

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "PeggyDelgado"  wrote:
> 
> I have a small problem.  I was trying to find my maternal 
> grandfather, who was born in, according to his INS Green card, Teul 
> in Zacatecas, but I can't find him.  How many Teuls are there in 
> Zacatecas besides Teul de Gonzales and Teul de Jimenez?  I looked at 
> both records for his birth year and still couldn't find him.  Is 
> there another Teul?

Alicia,

Me uno a tí para darle la bienvenida a Armando, pero estoy en 
desacuerdo contigo.

Con todo respeto para nuestros amigos hispano-parlantes, pero tu no 
tienes nada que envidiarle a nadie respecto a tu Español.

Si nunca hubiera leído ninguna palabra tuya, excepto el mensaje de 
abajo, no tendría la menor duda que el Espanol es tu primer lengua.  

Felicidades!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> Bienvenido Armando,
>  
> En la forma que escribes el espanol parece que has estudiado en 
Mexico. Que envidia tengo porque como quiciera poder escribir como tu 
escribes. 
>  
> Mi nombre es Alicia Avelar Aguayo, Olmos, Ruiz de Carrillo y vivo 
junto con mi esposo en San Jose, California. Mis padres me trajeron a 
Estados Unidos cuando tenia apenas dos anos de edad y jamas he 
estudiado el espanol, ni en Mexico ni en Estados Unidos. Nuestros 
padres inculcaron en nostoros el amor a nuestra lengua, cultura, 
comida, musica, su gente y