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Ola to all Ranchos Members,
My name is Yolanda Gomez, and I am married to Jose Nicolas Gomez.
Jose was born in Mexticacan, Jalisco. Mexico in 1947, and we still 
visit Mexticacan, Yahulica, Los Charcos, Jalostitlan, etc.
I will post his genealogy, which is only to his great-great parents, 
however he has the names of aunts and uncles of his parents and 
grand-parents. His grandfather is still alive and lives near 
Mexticacan. Both his parents are still alive, however they relocated 
to Guadalajara, however remain in close contact with family and 
friends in Mextcicacan, Yahulica, etc.
I hope to learn from each of you.
Yolly

What this PhD Thesis has to do with genealogy. . .I'm not sure. but
since there were several in the group from the Los Altos area I thought
I'd put it out strictly as FYI:

TI: A DIALECT AND FOLKLORISTIC STUDY OF TEXTS RECORDED IN LOS ALTOS OF
JALISCO, MEXICO

AU: ROBE-STANLEY-L
DN: PHD
DD: 1950
SN: THE-UNIVERSITY-OF-NORTH-CAROLINA-AT-CHAPEL-HILL (0153)
PG: 1
LA: ENGLISH
SU: Language-and-Literature-General (0586)
SO: VOLUME W1950 OF DISSERTATION ABSTRACTS INTERNATIONAL. PAGE 206.
NO: AAI0173544

====================

I guess that brings me to talk about the Database that can be found on
most University database collections:

Dissertation Abstracts

Good one if you want to see what Thesis and Dissertations have been
written about your particular area of interest.

joseph

Hi everyone,

Angie, I went to the web site and found all of that lovely 
information.  Thank you very much.

I did have a question. In your letter, you list Maria Santos Godina 
Ramos' great-grandparents, but you didn't list her parents or 
grandparents nor could I find that on the web site.  May I have that 
information?

As for the Huizar and the Germany connect.... I know that there were 
van Huizen in Leeuwarderadeel, Friesland, Netherlands from (1810 to 
1888). Of course, they may still be there, but the last date I have 
is 1888. I have been told that this is very near the Germany and 
Netherlands border.

Jan AEtze van Huizen (1810-1880)
wife: Elske Halbes Algra
 Son: AEtze Jan van Huizen (1839-1883)
 wife: Ytje Haitzes Haitsma
    Daughter: Elsie van Huizen (1869-1971)was my great-grandmother 
from my father's family.

So, for me, it would be interesting to find a connection.

Thank you,
Roseholly

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PRESS RELEASE, immediate:  Press Conference, September 8th from 10-11 a.m. 
Long Beach Performing Arts Center, 300 E. Ocean Blvd., Long Beach, 
California. 

Who is Bernardo de Galvez and why is he being rescued from the pages of 
history?  
What is the purpose of resurrecting the deeds of a Spanish historical figure 
from the America Revolution, why now?  

An Orange County, California group believes that the story needs to be told 
now.  
"It doesn't matter that is was over 200 years ago," says .Mimi Lozano, Chair 
of the Bernardo de Galvez Project.  "People read about the numbers of 
Hispanics increasing throughout the nation. They feel invaded. They are frightened.  
They don't know the history of the continual presence and support that 
Hispanics have given to the United States, even before there was a United States.  
This information is needed now."     

Co-chair, Judge Fredrick Aguirre has organized annual event for seven years re
cognizing the deeds of

I have heard similar stories regarding Huizar with German roots, 
except the I was told the original spelling may have been Wisar or 
Wizar.  I have not found any documented proof so I don't know how 
valid those stories are.  There is a city in Europe(I can't remember 
which country, maybe Spain?) called Guisar or Guizar, which seemed to 
be a more popular spelling of Huizar before 1800's.  So I wonder if 
there is any correlation with the surname and the city?

- Angie

Hello Roseholly,

**I am also researching the surnames of Gaeta and Huizar, along with
the spelling variations (or spelling mistakes) which include, Gueta,
Huisar, Guisar, Guizar.

**I am currently looking into two different Gaeta families and two
different Huizar families.  The two different Gaeta families are
probably related but I have not found the link yet, likewise for the
two different Huizar families.

**I was looking over your genealogy

Right now until the 21st Yahoo is storing Attachments in the message
archives along with the messages that had them included. After the 21st
Yahoo will be removing the attachments before archiving. So if you
receive a message from the group and if it has an attachment save it to
your hardrive if its of interest to you because after the 21st you won't
be able to retreive it from the message archives [the message will be
there but the attached attachment won't].

see you all in a few days,
joseph

thanks to the several of you that replied to question. . .I am so
grateful for the help. thanks again.

This record is really an eye opener for me. I went through that film
record by record about 9 months ago when my research was only 3 months
old. I saw that record but at the time I had no idea who Manuel
Castaneda and Lugarda Diaz were. So this brings up a good point about
why certain films should be made permanent at your family history
center. As your knowledge grows you will definitely have different
insight when you look at certain records. If you look over a film
quickly and send it right back you will be surprised one day when you
need it but its not available without have to reorder it.

So if you are looking in the area where several of your families
generations lived consider making those films part of your (their)
permanent collection at your local family history center. Yes you might
have to be selective as it can get expensive but think how much it would
co

Dear Group (especially Joseph):



The burial record literally reads as follows:



"Manuel Castañeda Adulto del Salto de los Romeros, H.L. (Hijo Legítimo)

+ Limosna



En el Cementerio de esta Yglecia de Santa María a siete de Septiembre de mil ochocientos veinte y tres.  Yo el Bachiller Don Lorenso del Muro di licencia para que se enterrase de Limosna al Adulto Manuel Castañeda del Salto de los Romeros de estado Viudo de primeras nupcias de María Melchora Miramontes, de cosa de ochenta años de edad, hijo legítimo de José Castañeda y María Melchora (la espresada arriba es la madre del Muerto y su Muger fue M.a Lugarda Días) recibió los Sacramentos.  Murió de evacuación.  Y para que conste lo firmé con el Señor Cura.  . . . Lorenzo del Muro (rúbrica) . . . Ygnacio Suárez (rúbrica)."



The notary priest was about to make a mistake regarding Manuel Castañeda's ALREADY dead wife.  Notice he wrote that he was married to María Melchora Miramontes first, but then he later corrects himself and says

Dear Group (especially Joseph):



The burial record literally reads as follows:



"Manuel Castañeda Adulto del Salto de los Romeros, H.L. (Hijo Legítimo)

+ Limosna



En el Cementerio de esta Yglecia de Santa María a siete de Septiembre de mil ochocientos veinte y tres.  Yo el Bachiller Don Lorenso del Muro di licencia para que se enterrase de Limosna al Adulto Manuel Castañeda del Salto de los Romeros de estado Viudo de primeras nupcias de María Melchora Miramontes, de cosa de ochenta años de edad, hijo legítimo de José Castañeda y María Melchora (la espresada arriba es la madre del Muerto y su Muger fue M.a Lugarda Días) recibió los Sacramentos.  Murió de evacuación.  Y para que conste lo firmé con el Señor Cura.  . . . Lorenzo del Muro (rúbrica) . . . Ygnacio Suárez (rúbrica)."



The notary priest was about to make a mistake regarding Manuel Castañeda's ALREADY dead wife.  Notice he wrote that he was married to María Melchora Miramontes first, but then he later corrects himself and says

Hi Joseph,
here is my translation:   the 2nd word in parenthesis is "espresada"; 
meaning the "above named/referenced".  The word before viudo 
is "estado"; meaning "marital status".
Maria 


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> I need some help with the translation of this document. 
specifically 
> with the 2nd word in the parenthesis. I thought it was Esposa but 
that 
> is not correct at least the end of that word dosen't look 
like "osa" in 
> Esposa. This Manuel Castaneda from possibly Tlaltenango or Momax 
but 
> here dieing in Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco is quite 
possibly the 
> brother of my GGGGG-Grandmother  Maria Concepcion Castaneda. If 
that 
> turns out to be true then his parents listed as Jose Castaneda and 
Maria 
> Melchoza would be my GGGGGG-Grandparents.
> 
> The way this document looks to me Manuel was first married to Maria 
> Melchoza Miramontes. He died when he was 80. Can anyone also figure 
out 
> the word right

Hello Roseholly,

**I am also researching the surnames of Gaeta and Huizar, along with 
the spelling variations (or spelling mistakes) which include, Gueta, 
Huisar, Guisar, Guizar.

**I am currently looking into two different Gaeta families and two 
different Huizar families.  The two different Gaeta families are 
probably related but I have not found the link yet, likewise for the 
two different Huizar families.

**I was looking over your genealogy file and found some names that I 
recognized.  The first was Martina Cardenas married to Angel Lopez.  
Martina is the sister of my great-great-grandmother.  Martina's 
paternal grandmother was Ana Maria Gaeta, one of the Gaeta Lines I am 
following.  I am not sure if Martina's family is one of the families 
you are following but just in case it was, I have included her 
christening information, marriage information, and the christening 
information for seven of her children.  See below:

Martina CARDENAS ABILA
  Sex: F
Event(s)

here is the special collections URL for the Univ. of Ariz:

http://dizzy.library.arizona.edu/branches/spc/homepage/index.html

kitty_cortez wrote:

In Arizona, we plan on visiting the Special Collection Area of
University of Arizona in Tucson. We will checking out the Rio Sonora
Valley of Sonora, Mexico as well as Jalisco and Zacatecas. Is the
811 Collection the same as the Special Collection? We have heard a
little about this Collection, but would like to do a little homework

I don't know about this. I wish I was going. have fun,

joseph