Nuestros Ranchos Site

Muchas Gracias por su valiosa ayuda en este sitio , podría ser tan amable de decirme si tiene algún Dato sobre Geronima de la Cueva hija de Leonardo Fregoso Tía de Tomasina de Velasco y Zúñiga el por que? no se llamo Geronima Fregoso Farfan como le correspondía por sus Padres.

David Serna
http://www.telepaisa.com/pueblos.php?action=poblacion_ver&poblacion_id=…

This is a link to a .Pueblo now called Carrillos(San Nicolas) It shows a map and places it on Hwy. 205 just NW of Apulco, Zac. Between Nochistlan and Teocaltiche.

When looking for pueblos and ranchos, .. Use Google Type
the name + the nearby town + (either of these sites) telepaisa or pueblos America.

Telepaisa offers a map either satellite or road.
Pueblos America only satellite.

There is a third.. I have forgotten the name.. but I posted the subject on NR just two weeks ago. David

My sister in law was a B2. Her mother was an Acosta. Her brother, my husband is T1, and I am C.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mayangrl@sonic.net
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 20:15:43 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] MtDNA Haplogroup B4'5
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone else came up with this MtDNA haplogroup. I've read a little, but apparently, this is fairly common from SW Native American groups and northern Mexico down through Jalisco where it's even more common.
>
> Laura Gonzalez

Hello Laura,
I've also tested B4'5/B2.  Have you taken the familyfinder?
Alice Blake

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From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:15 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] MtDNA Haplogroup B4'5

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone else came up with this MtDNA haplogroup.  I've read a little, but apparently, this is fairly common from SW Native American groups and northern Mexico down through Jalisco where it's even more common.

Laura Gonzalez

Hi,

Maria Antonia Macias, espanola originaria de la Cruz de el Obato, hija legitima de D. Patricio Macia y Maria Nicolasa Dias.

I looked up Asientos here: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm and I see a rancho called Cruz de Lobato, which is what I believe matches the record.

I hope this helps.

Rosalinda

Looks like this is the parish's YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/parroquiasantaclara

Here's a satellite map and some pertinent info about the town of Santa Clara de Valladares in the municipio (county) of Tacumbo in Michoacan:
http://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/i/santa-clara-de-valladares/

So, Santa Clara de Valladares, Michoacan is about an hour or so SE of Quitupan, Jalisco. They're near the border between those states, so over time the parish and its records may have changed between states, keep that in mind when you're looking.

What you posted looks like the parish address, including postal code (cp), so you should be able to write them, too. "Known Addresses" are valid in Mexico.

How's your Spanish? Because the Wikipedia on Tocumbo is great in Spanish, woefully inadequate in English. http://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocumbo_(municipio)
I noticed someone named Andrade was one of the town elders in 1800. Maybe a relative of yours?

Added: Address and phone number for Sagrado Corazon parish from the Zamora, Michoacan diocese. I'm not sure how current this info is.
59961 - INGENIO SANTA CLARA. Parroquia del Sagrado Corazón de Jesús.
Notaría Parroquial Tel. 01 (354) 54 2 14 84
-Sr. Cura Luis Manuel Oseguera Fernández

Added: More maps and pertinent info, photos.
http://www.en.nuestro-mexico.com/Michoacan-de-Ocampo/Tocumbo/Santa-Clar…

I'm on a road trip and not driving, so I'll keep looking and adding. I like a good detective hunt '-)

Sandra Velez

David Serna Quitupan, Jalisco church records

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysea…
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baptism record of Francisco Villanueva Andrade, 16 Octubre 1926 born in the Puesto de San Diego, in the Parroquia of Quitupan, Jalisco. Hijo legitimo de Faustino Villanueva and Antonia Andrade
Abuelos Paternos Juan Villanueva and Juana (Orozco)?
Abuelos Maternos Nicanor Andrade and Genoveva Medina

page number page 143. Number of the Act 356.

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This is image no 334 of 648. The index for this year is image 250 of 648.
here is the link
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18735-67949-36?cc=1874591&wc…
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San Diego may be the place now called Lazero Cardenas just S.E. Of Quitupan.
You can google it.. add the words either Telepaisa or Pueblos America.

difficult.....
de A...,y de Getrudis or Gervacia de Acosta y Maria f.... Ulloa .......Lorenso de Ulloa y de Ana de Escovedo vecinos

Thank you Joseph,

Our website is being rebuilt so it's not current, otherwise we'd put the
notice on our website about the conference.

Anyone who wants more and detailed information about the conference can
send me an email to allieavelar@gmail.com.

Thanks,
Alicia Carrillo

On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> With regards to the previous message I sent a few days ago if anyone has
> trouble opening the link I can try sending it to you in an email. Let me
> know. Here is that previous email:
>
>
>
> Subject: Conference, Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society, August 2014
>
>
>
>
>
> Nuestros Ranchos, our 5th annual NGGS Conference
>
>
>
>
>
> Here is a link that gives much information about the Nueva Galicia
> Genealogical Society 5th Annual Conference. Please be patient as it will
> take a little while to download onto your computer:
>
>
>
>
>
> http://h2opodcast.com/misc/NuevaGaliciaGenealogicalSocietyAug2014.rtf
>
>
>

Starting about 1862, all municipios were required by law to keep civil records of all births, deaths and marriages. And they mostly have indices in them, at least the ones I have read have all had an index in them.

So if you do a location search in familysearch, look in the civil records vice the parish records.

Sandra Velez

Hola Every one , how did the Nueva Galicia conference go ?
Ronnie

Have a wonderful conference. Sorry I can't attend this year.
Looking forward to summary and photos.

See you in Sacramento.

Greetings from New York State
Bertha and Guenter Boehm

En Busca de mis Antepasados
http://www.boehm-chronik.com/mexico/antepasados.htm

See you there!

Jose Carlos de Leon

well if you don't have the default password, your risk of getting hacked is lower

Brenndan Torres. We have something similar in our family. The DAR recognition was for ancestors in Santa Fe, NM who raised money and gave it to the American Colonists for the War against the British.

A great book on this topic:

Chávez, Thomas E. (2002). Spain and the Independence of the United States:
An Intrinsic Gift. Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press. ISBN
0-8263-2794-X.

I have moved this thread over to the general@nuestrosranchos.org email
distribution list

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-
> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of mercado@riverfast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:13 AM
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Spanish in The American Revolution
>
> My sister qualified for DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution )
> through several lines. Last summer I discovered she qualified through
> her Spanish line.
>
> Every American learns that the French saved Washington's army in the
> north. But Spain was also in the war against the British, and Spanish
> Louisiana struck from the south.
>
> In about 1777 Spain recruited yeoman settler/militiamen and their
> families to settle some of the thinnest colonies. In my case these
> were from the Canaries and were called Los Islenos. Shiploads were
> dispatched to Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Texas, Argentina, and some other
> colonies. Recruits were given land, tools, guns, and a stipend. If
> you were over 5' 2" you got the premium package.
>
> Galvez combined his home force, The Louisiana Regiment of Infantry,
> with Isleno militia, other colonial forces, regular troops from Cuba,
> and an impressive collection of shipping. He drove north from New
> Orleans pushing the British out of Baton Rouge and St. Louis. Moving
> east he defeated forces at Mobil then lay siege to the 9,000 man
> redcoat force at Pensacola, defeating them.
>
> Further, Spanish ports were open to service American privateers, and
> the Spanish fleet forced the British navy to dilute their efforts in
> the Revolution.
>
> So if one can prove up an ancestor who served with Galvez, DAR status
> might follow. This could also mean that a Mexican colonial soldier,
> speaking only Spanish, gets listed as an American patriot!

Hello DNA cousin Randy,
 
I remember my mother telling me about these ruins.  She was told by the adults to stay away because of evil spirits.  They probably didn't want the kids to disturb the ruins.  I believe they are just outside of the small town of Teocaltitan de Guadalupe which I have visited.  This town is also the site where Santo Pedro Esqueda was martyred during the Cristiada.  He was also the priest who performed the marriage of my maternal grandparents in San Juan de los Lagos.  Unfortunately I have not visited the ruins , but do recall reading that this area was originally an Indian village.
 
Thanks for sharing this,
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California

----- Original Message -----

From: rmcneal103@msn.com
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:04:02 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Archaeologists explore ancient ceremonial center        San Juan de los Lagos Mexican

Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second most frequented sanctuary in Mexico is located, archaeologists from the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), unravel a piece of pre Hispanic past which is today known as Los Altos de Jalisco, by the excavation of an ancient ceremonial center known as Teocaltitan.

At least 23 architectonic structures that were built 1500 years ago, between 450 and 900 AD, are distributed in the 20 acres that make up the highest part of the Teocaltitan hill.

To archaeologist Marisol Montejano Esquivias, director of the project, what makes this job in Teocaltitan the most gratifying is that it represents a preserved space in an archaeological context.”

“The interesting thing about Teocaltitan, apart from having Teotihuacan influence, is that it has elements that are very characteristic of the region such as the square architecture, sunken gardens in U-shape, pyramids with closed gardens, ball game courts, etc.”

The first drills and excavations that will be made in 2014 in Platform A of Teocaltitan, are focused on proving that these structures were made solely by men, and that underneath this they can find other archaeological substructures.

After two seasons there have been interventions on the west and north side of the ball court. It is from this area where most materials recovered from the project were found, such as: figurines, stone and turquoise beads that provided for the rituals that happened in this space.

Also, the finding of some copper and shell earrings in the northern part of the ball court indicated that this ceremonial center was used again during the Post Classic period (900 – 1200 AD). The earrings where found in the cranium of a presumably decapitated person.

Also, they have intervened in the sunken garden and the central pyramid that closes the site. In 2012, the center of the garden was excavated in an altar where they found secondary burials, bones that are not in an anatomic position meaning they where extracted from their original resting place and re-buried. This context also corresponds to the reoccupation of Teocaltitan in the Post Classic era.

With the restoration of the perimeter wall of the sunken garden and the ball court, the following year they will start opening the archaeological zone to the visitors.

http://artdaily.com/news/67098/Mexican-archaeologists-explore-ancient-c…

Hello DNA cousin Randy,
 
I remember my mother telling me about these ruins.  She was told by the adults to stay away because of evil spirits.  They probably didn't want the kids to disturb the ruins.  I believe they are just outside of the small town of Teocaltitan de Guadalupe which I have visited.  This town is also the site where Santo Pedro Esqueda was martyred during the Cristiada.  He was also the priest who performed the marriage of my maternal grandparents in San Juan de los Lagos.  Unfortunately I have not visited the ruins , but do recall reading that this area was originally an Indian village.
 
Thanks for sharing this,
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California

----- Original Message -----

From: rmcneal103@msn.com
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:04:02 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Archaeologists explore ancient ceremonial center        San Juan de los Lagos Mexican

Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second most frequented sanctuary in Mexico is located, archaeologists from the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), unravel a piece of pre Hispanic past which is today known as Los Altos de Jalisco, by the excavation of an ancient ceremonial center known as Teocaltitan.

At least 23 architectonic structures that were built 1500 years ago, between 450 and 900 AD, are distributed in the 20 acres that make up the highest part of the Teocaltitan hill.

To archaeologist Marisol Montejano Esquivias, director of the project, what makes this job in Teocaltitan the most gratifying is that it represents a preserved space in an archaeological context.”

“The interesting thing about Teocaltitan, apart from having Teotihuacan influence, is that it has elements that are very characteristic of the region such as the square architecture, sunken gardens in U-shape, pyramids with closed gardens, ball game courts, etc.”

The first drills and excavations that will be made in 2014 in Platform A of Teocaltitan, are focused on proving that these structures were made solely by men, and that underneath this they can find other archaeological substructures.

After two seasons there have been interventions on the west and north side of the ball court. It is from this area where most materials recovered from the project were found, such as: figurines, stone and turquoise beads that provided for the rituals that happened in this space.

Also, the finding of some copper and shell earrings in the northern part of the ball court indicated that this ceremonial center was used again during the Post Classic period (900 – 1200 AD). The earrings where found in the cranium of a presumably decapitated person.

Also, they have intervened in the sunken garden and the central pyramid that closes the site. In 2012, the center of the garden was excavated in an altar where they found secondary burials, bones that are not in an anatomic position meaning they where extracted from their original resting place and re-buried. This context also corresponds to the reoccupation of Teocaltitan in the Post Classic era.

With the restoration of the perimeter wall of the sunken garden and the ball court, the following year they will start opening the archaeological zone to the visitors.

http://artdaily.com/news/67098/Mexican-archaeologists-explore-ancient-c…

Thank you for this article. I'll have to see if anything else has been
published about Teocaltitan.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:04 AM, wrote:

> Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second most
> frequented sanctuary in Mexico is located, archaeologists from the National
> Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), unravel a piece of pre
> Hispanic past which is today known as Los Altos de Jalisco, by the
> excavation of an ancient ceremonial center known as Teocaltitan.
> At least 23 architectonic structures that were built 1500 years ago,
> between 450 and 900 AD, are distributed in the 20 acres that make up the
> highest part of the Teocaltitan hill.
> To archaeologist Marisol Montejano Esquivias, director of the project,
> what makes this job in Teocaltitan the most gratifying is that it
> represents a preserved space in an archaeological context.”
> “The interesting thing about Teocaltitan, apart from having Teotihuacan
> influence, is that it has elements that are very characteristic of the
> region such as the square architecture, sunken gardens in U-shape, pyramids
> with closed gardens, ball game courts, etc.”
> The first drills and excavations that will be made in 2014 in Platform A
> of Teocaltitan, are focused on proving that these structures were made
> solely by men, and that underneath this they can find other archaeological
> substructures.
> After two seasons there have been interventions on the west and north side
> of the ball court. It is from this area where most materials recovered from
> the project were found, such as: figurines, stone and turquoise beads that
> provided for the rituals that happened in this space.
> Also, the finding of some copper and shell earrings in the northern part
> of the ball court indicated that this ceremonial center was used again
> during the Post Classic period (900 – 1200 AD). The earrings where found in
> the cranium of a presumably decapitated person.
> Also, they have intervened in the sunken garden and the central pyramid
> that closes the site. In 2012, the center of the garden was excavated in an
> altar where they found secondary burials, bones that are not in an anatomic
> position meaning they where extracted from their original resting place and
> re-buried. This context also corresponds to the reoccupation of Teocaltitan
> in the Post Classic era.
> With the restoration of the perimeter wall of the sunken garden and the
> ball court, the following year they will start opening the archaeological
> zone to the visitors.
>
> http://artdaily.com/news/67098/Mexican-archaeologists-
> explore-ancient-ceremonial-center-in-the-State-of-Jalisco#.U2D-l2wU-ic --

In Mexico City, it felt quite hard, no damages report

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> Just wanted to pass this along in case you have relatives in Guerrero:
>
>
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> 37 km (22 mi) N of Tecpan de Galeana, Mexico
> 53 km (32 mi) NW of Atoyac de Alvarez, Mexico
> 56 km (34 mi) E of Petatlan, Mexico
> 81 km (50 mi) S of Ciudad Altamirano, Mexico
> 265 km (164 mi) SW of Mexico City, Mexico
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Randy,

The document reads as follows:

Information made at petition of friar Diego de Temino, dominican cleric, ("de sur el" appears to be an error in transcription, it means, "him from the south") and on behalf of his brother Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos, descendants of the honorable house of Temino, and consequently of well known nobility (hijos hidalgos). Monastery of Rodilla, July 10, 1561. Followed by writings regarding the founding of the primogeniture granted to Alonso Ruiz de Temiño and Doña Sancha Velasco his wife, by power of king Henry IV, in Segovia on december 21, 1465. Temino township of la Bureba, October 12, 1470. Genealogical information of Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos follows. Zacatecas, June 10, 1589. Certified copy granted in Mexico in the year 1709. M-66, pages 211-427.

Jaime Alvarado

Informacion hecha a peticion de fray Diego de Temino, religioso domico, de sur el y su hermano Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos, descendientes de la casa fuerte de Temino, y tales hijosdalgo notorios. Monasterio de Rodilla, 1561, Julio 10. Segue la escritura de fundacion de mayorazgo, otorgado por Alfonso Ruiz de Temiño y Dona Sancha Velasco su mujer, previa facultad del rey Enrique IV, dada en Segovia el 21 diciembre de 1465. Temino merindad de la Bureba, 1470. Octubre 12. Sigue una informacion de la ascendencia de Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos. Zacatecas, 1589. Junio, 10. Copia en una sola certificacion dada en Mexico el ano 1709. M-66, ff. 211 a 427.

Randy McNeal

Gloria Casillas, Tienes nombre de los padres o de la esposa? para hacer mas facil la busqueda