alguien sabe cuando fallecio Alvaro cosme Bugarin o su hijo Pedro Josseph??
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making the words much easier to decipher.
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George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
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My grandfather always named his children according to the Catholic calendar. Therefore my mother had two brothers named Alejandro.
yes the city is Cadiz,
you can find help in this page http://script.byu.edu/spanish/en/lastnames_abbreviations.aspx
for the last name of Ynes, that could be Gonzalez
Julietamartha
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> 5. Re: ? Reynos de Castilla (Bill Figueroa)
> 6. Re: ? Reynos de Castilla (Luis Bojorquez)
> 7. siblings of same name (Stuart Armstrong)
> 8. Videos of Victor Villasenor (Emilie Garcia)
> 9. Re: Videos of Victor Villasenor (Emilie Garcia)
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> Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
> "Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
>
> Also the mothers name is Ynes and some symbol that I assume stands for a last name...
> here is the link...gracias!!
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20399-7735-57?cc=1860831&…
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> I believe that it means from Spain, a general term rather than specifying a specific region but I could be wrong. I have seen this before and I assumed that it meant from Spain.
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> From: "hernandezmol@msn.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
>
> Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
> "Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
>
> Also the mothers name is Ynes and some symbol that I assume stands for a last name...
> here is the link...gracias!!
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20399-7735-57?cc=1860831&…
Gracias a Claudia Casillas ya tenemos a los padres y abuelos de Juan de Villalobos esposo de Beatriz Romo de Vivar y Ruiz de Esparza.
I am glad to be of help.
Es un placer para mi ayudarles.
Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com
www.sagradamitra.com
Posted today at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
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This link has videos of interviews of the author. In one of them he takes the interviewer on a tour of his house.
I just finished watching an interview by Connie Martinson of Victor Villasenor (she kept calling him Victor Villasena and he never corrected her) on his website victorvillasenor.com and I wonder if those who saw him speak recently can say if what he said in this video is what they heard.
The interview is in two parts, each 14 minutes each, and I got quite an insight into Victor's views, like Carlos Castaneda, very spiritual, focusing on the spirituality of his indigenous side, his connection to the spirit world, etc. He had trouble with his publishers insisting his were works of fiction because of this; his tales sometimes sound too fantastic.
I wonder what others who have heard him speak came away with.
Emilie
> From: auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:33:28 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Videos of Victor Villasenor
>
>
>
> http://victorvillasenor.com/
>
> This link has videos of interviews of the author. In one of them he takes the interviewer on a tour of his house. Scroll down to "Behind the Scenes" for the videos.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
Did anyone attend the talk given by Victor Villasenor on Sept 18 at the Fullerton Public Library? If so, could you post your comments. Thanks.
Natalie Coleman (in far off VA)
Mr. Villasenor opened his lecture by welcoming the standing only crowd to come forward and sit on the floor in the front and sides of the room in order to better enjoy the presentation. The perfect host, he engaged attendees with questions on attitudes about world peace. Some were optimistic, but many like me, were unsure.
Ten years ago, as a novice genealogist, some wise person suggested I read his books to understand family history, which is the context of genealogy. I have only read two of his books, “Rain of Gold”, and Thirteen Senses”, which chronicles his family’s journey from Mexico to Orange County California in the early 1900’s, and was not only inspired but motivated to look for “the story” and not just names and dates.
Victor Villasenor is not only a best selling author, but he is an amazing storyteller and motivational speaker. Relating his family history using quotes and pictures from several of his books he set the context of his family’s migration from Mexico to southern California. He emphasized the strength of Mexican women noting their ability to be grateful and compassionate in the worst of situations. His lecture centered on the arrogance of advocates of English only, noting that language promotes understanding. He started school speaking only Spanish and the prejudice of the majority of his teachers embittered him and he became hateful. It was through the encouragement of a substitute teacher that he found his voice in writing and determined that he would encourage others disparaged in an English only society.
After several hundred rejection letters he published his first book in paperback, but due to the miscue on the part of another author he was the keynote speaker at a teachers conference and his book and presentation were widely reviewed in southern California. Now a successful author he encouraged those in attendance to find their voice, find their family, and be optimistic about the future and world peace.
Renee,
Thank you for your comments. I just sent a post to Research at NR wondering what someone who has attended his lectures came away with.
His website victorvillasenor.com has a two-part interview (14 minutes each) done by Connie Martinson (who kept calling him Victor Villasena and he never corrected her). I got quite an insight into Victor's ideology, his spirituality, the tales he says are true, but publishers considered fiction since most Americans don't understand the spirituality of Native peoples (he dotes on his indigenous side).
He says that the world is entering another feminine cycle of peace and love, and that women are the center of it; however, in one of the other videos he speaks of how he and his wife had to separate (I assume they are divorced), that she thought he was insane, but that he just had to go his own way. Kind of contradictory on his part. Still, he zeroes in on what it is like to be poor in Mexico and a minority in the US, and I haven't found that anywhere else. He is not a hard core activist, which makes him more acceptable.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: reneecapels@mac.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:31:23 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Victor Villasenor in Orange County, CA
>
> Mr. Villasenor opened his lecture by welcoming the standing only crowd to come forward and sit on the floor in the front and sides of the room in order to better enjoy the presentation. The perfect host, he engaged attendees with questions on attitudes about world peace. Some were optimistic, but many like me, were unsure.
>
> Ten years ago, as a novice genealogist, some wise person suggested I read his books to understand family history, which is the context of genealogy. I have only read two of his books, “Rain of Gold”, and Thirteen Senses”, which chronicles his family’s journey from Mexico to Orange County California in the early 1900’s, and was not only inspired but motivated to look for “the story” and not just names and dates.
>
> Victor Villasenor is not only a best selling author, but he is an amazing storyteller and motivational speaker. Relating his family history using quotes and pictures from several of his books he set the context of his family’s migration from Mexico to southern California. He emphasized the strength of Mexican women noting their ability to be grateful and compassionate in the worst of situations. His lecture centered on the arrogance of advocates of English only, noting that language promotes understanding. He started school speaking only Spanish and the prejudice of the majority of his teachers embittered him and he became hateful. It was through the encouragement of a substitute teacher that he found his voice in writing and determined that he would encourage others disparaged in an English only society.
>
> After several hundred rejection letters he published his first book in paperback, but due to the miscue on the part of another author he was the keynote speaker at a teachers conference and his book and presentation were widely reviewed in southern California. Now a successful author he encouraged those in attendance to find their voice, find their family, and be optimistic about the future and world peace.
>
Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
"Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
cuidad de cadiz, but not sure of what follows/before reynos de castilla
--- On Wed, 9/21/11, hernandezmol@msn.com wrote:
From: hernandezmol@msn.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 10:33 PM
Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
"Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
Also the mothers name is Ynes and some symbol that I assume stands for a last name...
here is the link...gracias!!
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20399-7735-57?cc=1860831&…
vecinos de la ciudad de Cadiz en los reynos de Castilla
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alice Blake"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
> cuidad de cadiz, but not sure of what follows/before reynos de castilla
>
> --- On Wed, 9/21/11, hernandezmol@msn.com wrote:
>
>
> From: hernandezmol@msn.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 10:33 PM
>
>
> Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word
> before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
> "Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
>
> Also the mothers name is Ynes and some symbol that I assume stands for a
> last name...
> here is the link...gracias!!
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20399-7735-57?cc=1860831&…
Ynes Sanchez
> From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:01:20 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
>
> vecinos de la ciudad de Cadiz en los reynos de Castilla
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alice Blake"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
>
>
> > cuidad de cadiz, but not sure of what follows/before reynos de castilla
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/21/11, hernandezmol@msn.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: hernandezmol@msn.com
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 10:33 PM
> >
> >
> > Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word
> > before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
> > "Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
> >
> > Also the mothers name is Ynes and some symbol that I assume stands for a
> > last name...
> > here is the link...gracias!!
> > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20399-7735-57?cc=1860831&…
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
I believe that it means from Spain, a general term rather than specifying a specific region but I could be wrong. I have seen this before and I assumed that it meant from Spain.
________________________________
From: "hernandezmol@msn.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] ? Reynos de Castilla
Anyone come across this in marriage records? I don't know what the word before Reynos de Castilla is or means...
"Vecinos de la ciudad de ? ? Reynos de Castilla..
Also the mothers name is Ynes and some symbol that I assume stands for a last name...
here is the link...gracias!!
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20399-7735-57?cc=1860831&…
Hello Natalie & NR group;
I was very fortunate in joining the over-flow crowd attending the lecture in learning about it only 2 hours in advance. So thank NR for posting the event.
Latest post at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
Now posted: 1787 FHL Source Film 168071
Nuevo archivo: 1787 rollo OAH 2405
This week on PBS, President of Mexico, Felipe Calderon becomes an adventure guide for travel journalist, Peter Greenberg on a Royal Tour of Mexico. YouTube Trailer
http://youtu.be/B-nhlnrT384
I saw it a few days ago. It was very good. Showed the diverse areas of the country. Sherri Mora
I am seeking a reference to ranchos in Spanish Colonial Mexico for Nayarit, specifically the georgraphical area around Ixtlán del Río. Thank you.
Probablemente este libro te sirva:
http://books.google.com/books?id=I2mKWnGSG9gC&printsec=frontcover&hl=es…
2011/9/20
> I am seeking a reference to ranchos in Spanish Colonial Mexico for Nayarit,
> specifically the georgraphical area around Ixtlán del Río. Thank you.
Greeting everyone:
This location may actually be El Jaral (today). Try looking in Mexquitic del Carmona, which is near San Luis Potosi.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
Just wanted to let the members know that in the San Francisco area, "The Storm That Swept Mexico" is being shown this week. I have Direct TV Satellite and it is being shown on channel 9 KQED.
Esther ... ,
> Rafael Lopez Ornelas ... oldest male in a family of 13.
Thank you Stewart,
I guess my family was normal for those times. From my 7th generation
forward I find a lot of same names, like Antonio, Francisco and Francisca in
the same family, Jesus for male and female, Felipe, etc. and since there
were so many in each family, there are many of the same same but with
different father & mother. Also kind of weird to me because it involves me
is that my mother named me Maria Graciela in the civil registration but my
grandmother thought I should have a Christian name, Esther, so in my
baptismal record that is the only name I have Esther. I decided to retain
this name to honor my grandmother who was very special to me.
Esther Jordan Lopez
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Stuart Armstrong wrote:
> Esther ... ,
>
> > Rafael Lopez Ornelas ... oldest male in a family of 13. His
> > youngest brother was also named Rafael Lopez Ornelas
>
> I have a surprising number of such instances in my database. And I
> would say that in browsing the christening record images I have seen
> MANY like this. It causes a lot of problems before you discover that
> two siblings had the same name.
>
> There are several scenarios I have seen.
>
> A child is given the same name as an older sibling for no apparent
> reason.
> A child born on the birthday of an older sibling was often given the
> same name.
> A child born in the same month as an older sibling. Saints days
> weren't followed precisely - it seems that families often chose between
> favorite saints whose days were close to the birthdate of the child.
>
> Twins were often given the same name.
>
> I have seen records that don't even name each child distinctly - for
> example, the record just says "Bacilios", meaning two of them, and
> "hijos legitimos" (plural) and in the margin the word gemelos (twins).
> To my way of thinking I would somehow feel cheated if the recorder
> didn't make a separate record for my birth .
>
> One particularly confusing instance was of a child born exactly 10
> years to the day after his older brother, and was given the same name.
> Until I discovered the christening records for both of them I thought
> it was a typo or copying error.
>
> In still another family I discovered 3 siblings named Francisca. Two
> of them were twins, and the other was born exactly 6 years earlier to
> the day.
>
> Contrary to what I've often heard, there was no requirement that the
> older sibling died young, although that sometimes happened. In the
> case of Francisca, the older one and one of the twins both married and
> raised families. The other twin died at age 13.
>
> The confusion that often results from same-name siblings can be hard
> to reconcile. You sort of get your first clue when the marriages and
> parents of the children don't reconcile. You think there are two
> spouses, but they overlap, then you dig deeper and discover the
> same-named siblings.
> --
> Best regards,
> Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com
>
Petra Mariana Ursula Cuellar y Moreno fue bautizada el 21 de octubre 1784 en el Sagrario de Aguscalientes, sus padres fueron Juan Chrisostomo Cuellar Martin del Campo y Maria Ygnacia Felipa Moreno Flo
Encontré que los Rugama y Vega eran nobles por su línea agnada, Rugama. El pleito de hidalguía está conservado en el Real Chancillería de Valladolid fechado 1818. El hombre que empezo el pleito juridico era Nicolás de Rugama, vecino de Cicero, Cantabria. Una cosa que notarás es que muchísimos de los comerciantes en México, específicamente los cántabros, eran nobles de linaje muy antiguo hijosdalgos.
Daniel M.C.
julieta campillo
hola Daniel, gracias por tus respuestas y disculpa que no conteste rapido, soy nueva en este sitio de nuestros ranchos y apenas le estoy " agarrando la onda" y no me habia dado cuenta que tenia respuestas :)
Tengo ya varios anos estudiando la genealogia de mi familia y los archivos que me indicas ya los conocia,pero me gusto mucho tu manera de redactarlos y justamente no encuentro nada sobre el hermano y los primos de Marcelino, quienes normalmente debieron instalarse tambien en Zacatecas, Fresnillo etc
Marcelino de Rugama y su familia se fueron a Veracruz y en algunos libros se le cita, como comerciante y tambien en politica puesto que en 1820 fue presidente municipal Jalapa, despues compro la hacienda de Tenextepec en donde crecieron sus hijos, nietos, biznietos.
Quizas en un momento dado a raiz de la ley de expulsión de españoles de México en 1827 y 1829, Marcelino tuvo que salir hacia la Habana,solo o acompanado de su familia, es verdad que mucho tiempo despues dos de sus descendientes se casan con cubanas !
Pero la hacienda nunca la perdieron y de alguna manera se arreglaron las cosas y vuelve a Mexico ya que Marcelino muere en 1841 en dicha Hacienda
Mexico, Veracruz, Catholic Church Records Perote San Miguel Arcángel Defunciones 1815-1869
pag 468 (interior- pagina 17, partida 617)del archivo en familysearch
don Marcelino Rugama, adulto, Tenextepec
en la capilla de san Antonio Tenextepec en cuatro de nov de 1841 anos yo el cura etc di sepultura ecca al cadaver de don Marcelino Rugama de 70 anos de edad,natural del Reyno de Espana y actual vecino de la citada hacienda de Tenextepec quien dejo viuda a dona Petra Mariana Cuellar , natural de zacatecas, recibio los santos sacramentos, ( de bomito ) sic
tambien encontre este archivo de uno de los hijos de esta pareja Marcelino y Petra
Mexico, Veracruz, Catholic Church Records Perote San Miguel Arcángel Bautismos 1713-1845 pag 2109
tenextepec
Jose Maria de la Encarnacion Bacilio de Rugama y Cuellar
17 abril 1826
De tres dias de nacido hijo legitimo del C. Marcelino de Rugama y Vega y de la C. Petra Cuellar Moreno, nieto por parte paterna de don Nicolas de Rugama y de dona Rosaura Vegas naturales de las montanas de Santander y por la materna de don Juan Chrisostomo Cuellar y de maria ..... Moreno naturales de la villa Encarnacion el primero y la segunda de la villa de Lagos, fue su padrino el ciudadano Ramon Gonzalez del Campillo de la montanas de Santander y la C Paula Rugama y Cuellar , doncella de trece anos
El padrino de este nino se casa tiempo despues con Rosalia de Rugama y Cuellar y de ahi proviene mi familia.
Gracias de nuevo por tu interes
Julietamartha
No tengo datos adicionaes sobre los Cuellar/Moreno de Ortega pero ojalá esto te ayuda con los Rugama y Vega. Muchísimas familias españolas se involucraron en el comercio de Nueva España, lo cual no era excepción con los Rugama y Vega.
Marcelino de Rugama y Vega era hijo de Nicolás de Rugama y Rosaura de Vegas, originarios de Cicero en la provincia de Santander (Cantabria). Marcelino cruzó el atlántico el 24 de octubre de 1799 y llegó a Veracruz donde trasladó a Fresnillo, Zacatecas y comenzó su carera de comerciante. Poco años después le siguió su hermano Ramón.
Ramón de Rugama y Vega, quien cruzó el mar océano el 27 de noviembre de 1803 donde también era comerciante. El dato último que tengo es interesante. Ya que sabemos los Rugama y Vega vivieron en varios sitios, Fresnillo, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Veracruz y La Habana, Cuba.
El expediente es fechado 14 de septiembre de 1829. Saturnino Cicero hijo de Pablo Cicero y Manuela del Campo cruza el atlántico. Saturnino era sobrino de Marcelino de Rugama y Vega, hijo de un primo suyo. El documento menciona que iba a La Habana, Ysla de Cuba en casa donde vive su tío Marcelino de Rugama del comercio de esa ciudad. A saber que sangre alteña, los de Cuellar y Moreno de Ortega, anduvo por esas tierras de Cuba es sumamente interesante. No sería los únicos en su historia, linajes como los Flores Alatorre, Álvarez Tostado, Díaz de León, etc regresaron a España.
Un Saludo,
Daniel Méndez-Camino
So yesterday I went out and bought a bunch of used tapes and a tape recorder for my research.
I am assuming that there is no identifying info so that you could return
these tapes to the family. What about your local historical society? Or if
you live near a univerisity, contacting the history dept. there? I see
online that there is something called the Oral History Association, link :
http://www.oralhistory.org/. Maybe they can suggest something. It is sad,
and I can understand and admire your sense of obligation to not let this
woman's words be lost. Good luck.
Raquel Ruiz
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:50 PM, wrote:
> So yesterday I went out and bought a bunch of used tapes and a tape
> recorder for my research. I played the first tape and it really broke my
> heart, an elderly woman( who was in her 80s I'm guessing) was talking about
> her life in the early 20s and through the depression . She was talking about
> her life because she " feared she didn't have much more time". It's sad to
> hear a lost piece if someone's family history just go like that. What should
> I do? I don't want to record over it . -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Lorenzo Carrillo
Yea she only mentions the names of one of her friends, her step father and ex - husband. She also mentions her childhood in san pedro,ca and later life in Oceanside,ca. I should probably try to find her son. She mentions his name but I can imagine he is on age already (80+) years old.
here is the website to the San Pedro Bay Historical Society:
http://historicalsociety.sanpedro.com/
or the Oceanside Historical Society:
http://oceansidehistoricalsociety.org/
that is where I'd go with it.
Thank you for trying to save a persons memories. . .they are more than
words but her life.
joseph
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lorenzocarrillo94@yahoo.com wrote:
> Lorenzo Carrillo
>
> Yea she only mentions the names of one of her friends, her step father
> and ex - husband. She also mentions her childhood in san pedro,ca and
> later life in Oceanside,ca. I should probably try to find her son. She
> mentions his name but I can imagine he is on age already (80+) years old.
I wouldn't give it to the family, who might not be interested and just throw the tape away again.
The best place would be the genealogical society or historical museum in San Pedro or a University's special collections. That is where I found tapes in New Mexico of my mothers cousins who are all long gone, and I am the only one who seems interested in copies of the tapes.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: lorenzocarrillo94@yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:10:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Someone's lost history..
>
> Lorenzo Carrillo
>
> Yea she only mentions the names of one of her friends, her step father and ex - husband. She also mentions her childhood in san pedro,ca and later life in Oceanside,ca. I should probably try to find her son. She mentions his name but I can imagine he is on age already (80+) years old.
Lorenzo CarrilloYes I think maybe the San Pedro society would be a great idea . They could benefit from the tape. Since it talks about their history briefly too .. Thank you for the input. I'm going to see if I can contact them this week about it.
Latest post at www.guadalajaradispensas.com
Now posted: 1787-1795 FHL Source Film 168038
Nuevo archivo: 1787-1795 rollo OAH 2387
Happy hunting!
Author Victor Villaseñor will be the guest speaker Sunday, Sept. 18, when the Fullerton Public Library launches its Distinguished Speaker series.
A couple of days ago when I started to have troubles with the familysearch I had a friend who works with computers for a living check out the situation. He told me that the problem appeared to
Alice,
After I downloaded Firefox, I was able to use their new Viewer, and I thought that since Firefox forced me to upgrade my Adobe Flash before it would download, I thought that perhaps that was all that was needed and not a new browser. So, I went back to IE8 and tried to access the new Viewer there, but I still had the same old problems. What other older browser do you have on your computer?
Now that I have the Firefox, I am experiencing strange problems such as the original old MSN Explorer 6 (for dial-up) launching itself in the middle of what I am doing. So now I have three browsers on my computer, and they conflict.
Armando sent me a link to something on Mozilla that hopefully will lead me to correct the problem.
Emilie
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:17 -0700
> From: alicebb@att.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
> A couple of days ago when I started to have troubles with the familysearch I had a friend who works with computers for a living check out the situation. He told me that the problem appeared to lie with lack of testing of the website before launching and not my XP. I couldn't wait and downloaded Firefox and all worked great.
> Today, I forgot to go through Firefox and accessed the site the old way through XP and I am no longer experiencing the problems as before.
> I hope everyone else is no longer experiencing the technical difficulties as before.
Emily,
The link I sent you will definitely help your problem in two ways. The old
MSN Explorer 6 is launching because that is what you have set in Windows XP.
The link explains how to fix that.
Windows XP
1. Click the Start button, then click on the Control Panel icon to open
the Windows Control Panel.
2. Click the *Add or Remove Programs* icon to open the Add or Remove
Programs applet.
3. On the left side of the Window click the *Set Program Access and
Defaults* icon.
4. In the Access and Defaults window, click on the *Custom* radio button
to expand the Custom category.
5. Underneath *Choose a default e-mail program*, click the radio button
next to the program you want to use (e.g. Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail,
Outlook).
6. Click OK at the bottom of the window.
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Changing%20the%20e-mail%20program%2…
The Adobe Flash update for Firefox is different than the one for IE. That is
probably why you couldn't use IE still.
You don't have conflicts with the browsers, you have settings that need to
be corrected that anybody that migrates to Firefox from the setup you have
has to do.
Armando
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
>
> Alice,
>
> After I downloaded Firefox, I was able to use their new Viewer, and I
> thought that since Firefox forced me to upgrade my Adobe Flash before it
> would download, I thought that perhaps that was all that was needed and not
> a new browser. So, I went back to IE8 and tried to access the new Viewer
> there, but I still had the same old problems. What other older browser do
> you have on your computer?
>
> Now that I have the Firefox, I am experiencing strange problems such as the
> original old MSN Explorer 6 (for dial-up) launching itself in the middle of
> what I am doing. So now I have three browsers on my computer, and they
> conflict.
>
> Armando sent me a link to something on Mozilla that hopefully will lead me
> to correct the problem.
>
> Emilie
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:17 -0700
> > From: alicebb@att.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
>
> > A couple of days ago when I started to have troubles with the
> familysearch I had a friend who works with computers for a living check out
> the situation. He told me that the problem appeared to lie with lack of
> testing of the website before launching and not my XP. I couldn't wait and
> downloaded Firefox and all worked great.
> > Today, I forgot to go through Firefox and accessed the site the old way
> through XP and I am no longer experiencing the problems as before.
> > I hope everyone else is no longer experiencing the technical difficulties
> as before.
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
Armando,
I think I successfully reset the browser that launches. I haven't had the old MSN Explorer 6 launch itself for several hours now.
Thanks so much for your guidance,
Emilie
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:09:26 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
>
> Emily,
>
> The link I sent you will definitely help your problem in two ways. The old
> MSN Explorer 6 is launching because that is what you have set in Windows XP.
> The link explains how to fix that.
> Windows XP
>
> 1. Click the Start button, then click on the Control Panel icon to open
> the Windows Control Panel.
> 2. Click the *Add or Remove Programs* icon to open the Add or Remove
> Programs applet.
> 3. On the left side of the Window click the *Set Program Access and
> Defaults* icon.
> 4. In the Access and Defaults window, click on the *Custom* radio button
> to expand the Custom category.
> 5. Underneath *Choose a default e-mail program*, click the radio button
> next to the program you want to use (e.g. Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail,
> Outlook).
> 6. Click OK at the bottom of the window.
>
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Changing%20the%20e-mail%20program%2…
>
> The Adobe Flash update for Firefox is different than the one for IE. That is
> probably why you couldn't use IE still.
>
> You don't have conflicts with the browsers, you have settings that need to
> be corrected that anybody that migrates to Firefox from the setup you have
> has to do.
>
> Armando
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Alice,
> >
> > After I downloaded Firefox, I was able to use their new Viewer, and I
> > thought that since Firefox forced me to upgrade my Adobe Flash before it
> > would download, I thought that perhaps that was all that was needed and not
> > a new browser. So, I went back to IE8 and tried to access the new Viewer
> > there, but I still had the same old problems. What other older browser do
> > you have on your computer?
> >
> > Now that I have the Firefox, I am experiencing strange problems such as the
> > original old MSN Explorer 6 (for dial-up) launching itself in the middle of
> > what I am doing. So now I have three browsers on my computer, and they
> > conflict.
> >
> > Armando sent me a link to something on Mozilla that hopefully will lead me
> > to correct the problem.
> >
> > Emilie
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:17 -0700
> > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
> >
> > > A couple of days ago when I started to have troubles with the
> > familysearch I had a friend who works with computers for a living check out
> > the situation. He told me that the problem appeared to lie with lack of
> > testing of the website before launching and not my XP. I couldn't wait and
> > downloaded Firefox and all worked great.
> > > Today, I forgot to go through Firefox and accessed the site the old way
> > through XP and I am no longer experiencing the problems as before.
> > > I hope everyone else is no longer experiencing the technical difficulties
> > as before.
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
Emilie,
What I'm saying is that the familysearch site has apparently been tweeked and now works accessing it the way I had always done before. I don't have to use the Firefox download I did yesterday. Have you tried accessing it the way you used to? Good luck. Alice
--- On Fri, 9/16/11, Emilie Garcia wrote:
From: Emilie Garcia
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 6:19 PM
Alice,
After I downloaded Firefox, I was able to use their new Viewer, and I thought that since Firefox forced me to upgrade my Adobe Flash before it would download, I thought that perhaps that was all that was needed and not a new browser. So, I went back to IE8 and tried to access the new Viewer there, but I still had the same old problems. What other older browser do you have on your computer?
Now that I have the Firefox, I am experiencing strange problems such as the original old MSN Explorer 6 (for dial-up) launching itself in the middle of what I am doing. So now I have three browsers on my computer, and they conflict.
Armando sent me a link to something on Mozilla that hopefully will lead me to correct the problem.
Emilie
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:17 -0700
> From: alicebb@att.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
> A couple of days ago when I started to have troubles with the familysearch I had a friend who works with computers for a living check out the situation. He told me that the problem appeared to lie with lack of testing of the website before launching and not my XP. I couldn't wait and downloaded Firefox and all worked great.
> Today, I forgot to go through Firefox and accessed the site the old way through XP and I am no longer experiencing the problems as before.
> I hope everyone else is no longer experiencing the technical difficulties as before.
Alice,
I will try again, but earlier today I wasn't able to use the new Viewer with the IE8 like before.
I sure hope they continue tweaking; the best thing would be to tweak it right back to what it was. I hear that some Family History Centers can't use the new viewer themselves because of their old computers.
Emilie
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:56:15 -0700
> From: alicebb@att.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
>
> Emilie,
> What I'm saying is that the familysearch site has apparently been tweeked and now works accessing it the way I had always done before. I don't have to use the Firefox download I did yesterday. Have you tried accessing it the way you used to? Good luck. Alice
>
> --- On Fri, 9/16/11, Emilie Garcia wrote:
>
>
> From: Emilie Garcia
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 6:19 PM
>
>
>
> Alice,
>
> After I downloaded Firefox, I was able to use their new Viewer, and I thought that since Firefox forced me to upgrade my Adobe Flash before it would download, I thought that perhaps that was all that was needed and not a new browser. So, I went back to IE8 and tried to access the new Viewer there, but I still had the same old problems. What other older browser do you have on your computer?
>
> Now that I have the Firefox, I am experiencing strange problems such as the original old MSN Explorer 6 (for dial-up) launching itself in the middle of what I am doing. So now I have three browsers on my computer, and they conflict.
>
> Armando sent me a link to something on Mozilla that hopefully will lead me to correct the problem.
>
> Emilie
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:17 -0700
> > From: alicebb@att.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] No Troubles
>
> > A couple of days ago when I started to have troubles with the familysearch I had a friend who works with computers for a living check out the situation. He told me that the problem appeared to lie with lack of testing of the website before launching and not my XP. I couldn't wait and downloaded Firefox and all worked great.
> > Today, I forgot to go through Firefox and accessed the site the old way through XP and I am no longer experiencing the problems as before.
> > I hope everyone else is no longer experiencing the technical difficulties as before.
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
Below is the response I got from Feedback at Family Search re my problems with their new Viewer.
Dear Members of Nuestros Ranchos,
See the link for the announcement for the annual San Jose Mariachi Festival. http://vivafest.org/
Every year is more exciting than the next.
This sounds really cool! I wish I could make it.
As a founding member of Mariachi Cardenal de Stanford in 1995 I hope my alma
mater makes a presence. I haven’t kept up with the college mariachi scene in
many years, but good luck to Mariachi Cardenal de Stanford if they
participate.
This email reminded me of my favorite T-shirt which said the following:
Harvard, because not everyone can get into Stanford. Ha ha, let’s go
Mariachi Cardenal!
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> Dear Members of Nuestros Ranchos,
>
>
> See the link for the announcement for the annual San Jose Mariachi
> Festival. http://vivafest.org/
>
> Every year is more exciting than the next. This year there will be
> something new, a Mariachi College bowl. Mariachi Bands from different
> colleges and universities will have a playoff.
>
>
> A Nuestros Ranchos member who's from Jalisco will be here to see her
> grandson play as part of the Mariachi from Harvard University, how exciting
> is that?
>
>
> There will be a movie and film series at the Tech Museum and of course the
> main concert with Los Lobos, Vicki Carr and others.
>
> If anyone is interested in meeting up, let me know off-line and I'll put
> something together at one of the hotels or restaurants.
>
>
>
>
> Estimados miembros de Nuestros Ranchos. Les comunico a traves del enlace
> aqui adjunto. http://vivafest.org/ que se llevara acabo el Festival
> Annual del Mariachi en San Jose Calif.
>
> Cada ano trae mas diversidad en su programcion este evento que dura dos
> semanas. Algo nuevo este ano sera el Mariachi College Bowl donde participan
> Grupos de Mariachis de varias universidades.
>
>
> Entre los participantes estara el nieto de uno de los miembros de Nuestros
> Ranchos, el toca con el Mariachi de la Universidad de Harvard. Ella viene
> desde Jalisco para escuchar a su nieto en este evento.
>
> Tambien habra un concierto con Los Lobos y Vicki Carr junto con otros
> grupos.
>
>
> Si alguien piensa venir, y desean hacer contacto con otros miembros de
> Nuestros Ranchos, denmelo a saver a mi correo, para organizarlo y ponernos
> de acuerdo. Puedo hacer arreglos para el encuentro en un Restaurante o en un
> hotel.
>
> Alicia,
> San Jose, Calif
Primo Juan Aguayo,
I see that the Mariachi Cardenal is still alive and well at Stanford. Here's the link to their website. Too bad you can't make it to the festival but who knows, they may repeat the Mariachi College Bowl next year.
Saludos de San Jose!
Alicia
http://www.stanford.edu/group/mariachi/aboutus.html
________________________________
From: Juan Aguayo
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Annual San Jose Viva Fest and Mariachi Festival
This sounds really cool! I wish I could make it.
As a founding member of Mariachi Cardenal de Stanford in 1995 I hope my alma mater makes a presence. I haven’t kept up with the college mariachi scene in many years, but good luck to Mariachi Cardenal de Stanford if they participate.
This email reminded me of my favorite T-shirt which said the following:
Harvard, because not everyone can get into Stanford. Ha ha, let’s go Mariachi Cardenal!
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Dear Members of Nuestros Ranchos,
>
>
>See the link for the announcement for the annual San Jose Mariachi Festival. http://vivafest.org/
>
>Every year is more exciting than the next. This year there will be something new, a Mariachi College bowl. Mariachi Bands from different colleges and universities will have a playoff.
>
>
>A Nuestros Ranchos member who's from Jalisco will be here to see her grandson play as part of the Mariachi from Harvard University, how exciting is that?
>
>
>There will be a movie and film series at the Tech Museum and of course the main concert with Los Lobos, Vicki Carr and others.
>
>If anyone is interested in meeting up, let me know off-line and I'll put something together at one of the hotels or restaurants.
>
>
>
>
>Estimados miembros de Nuestros Ranchos. Les comunico a traves del enlace aqui adjunto. http://vivafest.org/ que se llevara acabo el Festival Annual del Mariachi en San Jose Calif.
>
>Cada ano trae mas diversidad en su programcion este evento que dura dos semanas. Algo nuevo este ano sera el Mariachi College Bowl donde participan Grupos de Mariachis de varias universidades.
>
>
>Entre los participantes estara el nieto de uno de los miembros de Nuestros Ranchos, el toca con el Mariachi de la Universidad de Harvard. Ella viene desde Jalisco para escuchar a su nieto en este evento.
>
>Tambien habra un concierto con Los Lobos y Vicki Carr junto con otros grupos.
>
>
>Si alguien piensa venir, y desean hacer contacto con otros miembros de Nuestros Ranchos, denmelo a saver a mi correo, para organizarlo y ponernos de acuerdo. Puedo hacer arreglos para el encuentro en un Restaurante o en un hotel.
>
>Alicia,
>San Jose, Calif
Sigo con la investigación de los Moreno.
Hola José,
Se encuentra ese matrimonio en la imagen 380
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-24787-44?cc=187459…
Es interesante ese matrimonio. No lo tenia apuntado y Nicolasa María ha de
ser pariente de mis Moreno de Ortega. Dice que Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa
Maria Moreno fueron dispensados de cuarto grado de consanguinidad el 28 de
marzo de 1675 que significa que eran primos terceros. Hace falta encontrar
la dispensa para saber quienes eran los padres y demás ancestros de esta
pareja.
Armando
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:31 PM, wrote:
> Sigo con la investigación de los Moreno.
> Me encuentro en familysearch un matrimonio para Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa
> Maria Moreno el 28 de abril de 1675 en Lagos de Moreno. Al buscar en el film
> la imagen que se menciona que es el 221404 para Lagos de Moreno, no doy con
> dicho matrimonio. Alguien mas ha encontrado a este matrimonio y sabe de
> donde vienen los dichos Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa María Moreno?
>
> Saludos
> José Humberto Suárez
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---
> Following my Moreno research.
>
> I found at familysearch the marriage for Joseph de Anda with Nicolasa Maria
> Moreno on april 28 1675 at Lagos de Moreno. The film is 221404 but when
> looking for the image with that info I cannot find it. Has someone else
> found this marriage and knows the parents of Joseph de Anda and Nicolasa
> Maria Moreno?
>
> Regards José Humberto Suárez
Muchas gracias Armando.
Ya estoy buscando la dispensa, a ver si la encuentro, una de mis teorías es que Joseph de Anda también podría ser Joseph Zermenño o Vázquez Zermeño y que tomo el Anda en algunos registros por madre o abuela de Anda casada con un Zermeño, espero encontrar algo y que mi teoría se confirme o sea otra y quede claro.
Saludos
José Humberto
Esa teoría que se me había ocurrido desde el momento que vi el matrimonio
porque hay un matrimonio de Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno
de Ortega Villegas casados el 21 de octubre 1672 en Lagos. Estaba pensando
que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda eran hermanos. Apenas
me prendió el foco. Puede ser que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño
de Anda eran hermanos y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas y Nicolasa Maria
Moreno eran hermanos y entonces tuvo que haber visto una dispensa para ambos
matrimonios. Viendo bien el registro si dice que fueron dispensados también
Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas.
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-25402-6?cc=1874591…
Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas estan
emparentados de cuarto con tercer grado de consanguinidad. Beatriz Vásquez
Zermeño de Anda era tataranieta de Juan López de Nava e Inés López Muñiz y
Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas era bisnieto de Juan López de Nava e Inés
López Muñiz. Pienso que ya tenemos los ancestros de Joseph de Anda y
Nicolasa María Moreno y solo nos falta comprobar los padres con la dispensa.
Saludos
Armando
2011/9/15
> Muchas gracias Armando.
> Ya estoy buscando la dispensa, a ver si la encuentro, una de mis teorías es
> que Joseph de Anda también podría ser Joseph Zermeño o Vázquez Zermeño y que
> tomo el Anda en algunos registros por madre o abuela de Anda casada con un
> Zermeño, espero encontrar algo y que mi teoría se confirme o sea otra y
> quede claro.
>
> Saludos
> José Humberto
>
Juan Moreno de Ortega es hijo de Alonso Moreno de Ortega y Josefa Villegas y Lopez de Nava R A Ricci
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Armando
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:47:50
To:
Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa Maria Moreno
Esa teoría que se me había ocurrido desde el momento que vi el matrimonio
porque hay un matrimonio de Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno
de Ortega Villegas casados el 21 de octubre 1672 en Lagos. Estaba pensando
que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda eran hermanos. Apenas
me prendió el foco. Puede ser que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño
de Anda eran hermanos y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas y Nicolasa Maria
Moreno eran hermanos y entonces tuvo que haber visto una dispensa para ambos
matrimonios. Viendo bien el registro si dice que fueron dispensados también
Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas.
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-25402-6?cc=1874591…
Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas estan
emparentados de cuarto con tercer grado de consanguinidad. Beatriz Vásquez
Zermeño de Anda era tataranieta de Juan López de Nava e Inés López Muñiz y
Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas era bisnieto de Juan López de Nava e Inés
López Muñiz. Pienso que ya tenemos los ancestros de Joseph de Anda y
Nicolasa María Moreno y solo nos falta comprobar los padres con la dispensa.
Saludos
Armando
2011/9/15
> Muchas gracias Armando.
> Ya estoy buscando la dispensa, a ver si la encuentro, una de mis teorías es
> que Joseph de Anda también podría ser Joseph Zermeño o Vázquez Zermeño y que
> tomo el Anda en algunos registros por madre o abuela de Anda casada con un
> Zermeño, espero encontrar algo y que mi teoría se confirme o sea otra y
> quede claro.
>
> Saludos
> José Humberto
>
Josefa Villegas was born about 1607. Her father is Captain Hernando Villegas (b.abt 1563 in Trujillo Badajoz (son of Francisco Solano de Villegas and Francisca Jimenez Altamirano) m. 8sep in Lagos de Moreno( todays name) and her mother is Ines Lopez de Nava (daughter of Juan Lopez de Nava and Ines Lopez Muniz. Your info proves the connection between francisca Jimenez Altamirano and the Anda-Altamirano family
R A Ricci
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-----Original Message-----
From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:55:59
To:
Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa Maria Moreno
Juan Moreno de Ortega es hijo de Alonso Moreno de Ortega y Josefa Villegas y Lopez de Nava R A Ricci
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Armando
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:47:50
To:
Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa Maria Moreno
Esa teoría que se me había ocurrido desde el momento que vi el matrimonio
porque hay un matrimonio de Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno
de Ortega Villegas casados el 21 de octubre 1672 en Lagos. Estaba pensando
que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda eran hermanos. Apenas
me prendió el foco. Puede ser que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño
de Anda eran hermanos y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas y Nicolasa Maria
Moreno eran hermanos y entonces tuvo que haber visto una dispensa para ambos
matrimonios. Viendo bien el registro si dice que fueron dispensados también
Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas.
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-25402-6?cc=1874591…
Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas estan
emparentados de cuarto con tercer grado de consanguinidad. Beatriz Vásquez
Zermeño de Anda era tataranieta de Juan López de Nava e Inés López Muñiz y
Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas era bisnieto de Juan López de Nava e Inés
López Muñiz. Pienso que ya tenemos los ancestros de Joseph de Anda y
Nicolasa María Moreno y solo nos falta comprobar los padres con la dispensa.
Saludos
Armando
2011/9/15
> Muchas gracias Armando.
> Ya estoy buscando la dispensa, a ver si la encuentro, una de mis teorías es
> que Joseph de Anda también podría ser Joseph Zermeño o Vázquez Zermeño y que
> tomo el Anda en algunos registros por madre o abuela de Anda casada con un
> Zermeño, espero encontrar algo y que mi teoría se confirme o sea otra y
> quede claro.
>
> Saludos
> José Humberto
>
Yes, I did have that info as well as the fact that Juan Moreno de Ortega es
hijo de Alonso Moreno de Ortega y Josefa Villegas. Thank you for posting
anyway in case I didn't have it. What I don't have is a document showing the
parents of Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa Maria Moreno casados el 28 de abril de
1675
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-24787-44?cc=187459…
theory is that Joseph de Anda is the brother of Beatriz Vásquez
Zermeño
de Anda and that Nicolasa Maria Moreno is the sister of Juan Moreno de
Ortega Villegas. Do you have anything that proves these connections? If we
can find the dispensa it should show how they are all related.
Armando
2011/9/15
> Josefa Villegas was born about 1607. Her father is Captain Hernando
> Villegas (b.abt 1563 in Trujillo Badajoz (son of Francisco Solano de
> Villegas and Francisca Jimenez Altamirano) m. 8sep in Lagos de Moreno(
> todays name) and her mother is Ines Lopez de Nava (daughter of Juan Lopez de
> Nava and Ines Lopez Muniz. Your info proves the connection between
> francisca Jimenez Altamirano and the Anda-Altamirano family
> R A Ricci
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
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> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:55:59
> To:
> Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa Maria Moreno
>
> Juan Moreno de Ortega es hijo de Alonso Moreno de Ortega y Josefa Villegas
> y Lopez de Nava R A Ricci
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Armando
> Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:47:50
> To:
> Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph de Anda y Nicolasa Maria Moreno
>
> Esa teoría que se me había ocurrido desde el momento que vi el matrimonio
> porque hay un matrimonio de Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno
> de Ortega Villegas casados el 21 de octubre 1672 en Lagos. Estaba pensando
> que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda eran hermanos. Apenas
> me prendió el foco. Puede ser que Joseph de Anda y Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño
> de Anda eran hermanos y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas y Nicolasa Maria
> Moreno eran hermanos y entonces tuvo que haber visto una dispensa para
> ambos
> matrimonios. Viendo bien el registro si dice que fueron dispensados también
> Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda y Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas.
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-25402-6?cc=1874591…
>
> Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño de Anda con Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas estan
> emparentados de cuarto con tercer grado de consanguinidad. Beatriz Vásquez
> Zermeño de Anda era tataranieta de Juan López de Nava e Inés López Muñiz y
> Juan Moreno de Ortega Villegas era bisnieto de Juan López de Nava e Inés
> López Muñiz. Pienso que ya tenemos los ancestros de Joseph de Anda y
> Nicolasa María Moreno y solo nos falta comprobar los padres con la
> dispensa.
>
>
> Saludos
> Armando
>
> 2011/9/15
>
> > Muchas gracias Armando.
> > Ya estoy buscando la dispensa, a ver si la encuentro, una de mis teorías
> es
> > que Joseph de Anda también podría ser Joseph Zermeño o Vázquez Zermeño y
> que
> > tomo el Anda en algunos registros por madre o abuela de Anda casada con
> un
> > Zermeño, espero encontrar algo y que mi teoría se confirme o sea otra y
> > quede claro.
> >
> > Saludos
> > José Humberto
> >
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Estimado Armando,
A cuanto tu pregunta sobre Joseph Vásquez Zermeño y Joseph de Anda, tengo lo siguiente en mi archivo. Interesantemente tenía Joseph Vásquez Zermeño como hijo de Juan Vásquez Zermeño y Teresa Ruiz de Anda. Aun no sabía que utilizaba Joseph de Anda ni tuve el dato matrimonial de Joseph y Nicolasa Moreno de Ortega. Pienso que saqué estos datos de Jaime Holcombe. Aun me gustaría tener en mi posesión de documentos fidedignos sobre estos vínculos. Respeto el trabajo de Holcombe, pero he encontrado muchísimos datos érroneos que he tenido que corregir y reconstruir de nuevo.
Sobre Nicolosa María Moreno de Ortega, debido al tiempo debería ser hija de Alonso Moreno de Ortega y Josefa de Villegas. Lo digo porque debería nacer hacia 1655 y la primer generación de Moreno de Ortega era 1630-1655 más o menos. Alonso y Josefa empezaron su familia ca. 1630. El primer hijo que tengo registrado es Juan Moreno de Ortega bautizado el 22 de junio de 1636 en Santa María de los Lagos, marido de Beatriz Vásquez Zermeño. Tengo un dato sobre los padres de Alonso Moreno de Ortega, pero tengo que probarlo aun más. Luego te lo comparto.
Seguro existe una dispensa sobre este tema, pero sólo el tiempo nos dirá.
Daniel Méndez-Camino
I'm still trying to firgure out how the the Villegas were related to Hernan Cortes. Since Cortes was from Extremadura, the Jimenez-Altamirano is the key. I have noticed all Altamirano in that region are related somehow. It would be interesting to find that link between the Altamirano.
Daniel Mendez Camino
Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and at each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the bottom bar to th
Alice,
Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over and over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to 75% in order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save, Print, and the two left/right arrows are.
Emilie
> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> From: alicebb@att.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
>
> Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and at each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the bottom bar to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date. Is anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at the right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
Emilie,
I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install Firefox myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it created a different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my info including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use the Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch. So far I don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Alice
--- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia wrote:
From: Emilie Garcia
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
Alice,
Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over and over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to 75% in order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save, Print, and the two left/right arrows are.
Emilie
> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> From: alicebb@att.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
>
> Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and at each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the bottom bar to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date. Is anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at the right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
Alice,
You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think all I had needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen came up after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the outdated Flash Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come up sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does, but it made Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file (?) was corrupted.
I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in Foxfire), but they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do and use the IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the desktop and not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can tell me why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I don't want them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish me luck!
Emilie
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> From: alicebb@att.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
>
> Emilie,
> I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install Firefox myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it created a different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my info including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use the Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch. So far I don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Alice
>
> --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia wrote:
>
>
> From: Emilie Garcia
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
>
>
>
> Alice,
>
> Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over and over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to 75% in order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save, Print, and the two left/right arrows are.
>
> Emilie
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > From: alicebb@att.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> >
> > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and at each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the bottom bar to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date. Is anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at the right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
Emily,
It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update, It's the
websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an update such as
the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player the cause of
your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for the Adobe
Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are under a
folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
*
Armando
*
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
>
> Alice,
>
> You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think all I had
> needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen came up
> after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the outdated Flash
> Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come up
> sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does, but it made
> Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file (?) was
> corrupted.
>
> I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in Foxfire), but
> they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do and use the
> IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
>
> I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the desktop and
> not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can tell me
> why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I don't want
> them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
>
> I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish me luck!
>
> Emilie
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > From: alicebb@att.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> >
> > Emilie,
> > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install Firefox
> myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it created a
> different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my info
> including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use the
> Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch. So far I
> don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
> Alice
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Emilie Garcia
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Alice,
> >
> > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over and
> over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand
> still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it
> perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to 75% in
> order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save, Print,
> and the two left/right arrows are.
> >
> > Emilie
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > >
> > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and at
> each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the bottom bar
> to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides
> automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date. Is
> anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at the
> right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
Armando,
I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites from IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
I have more questions:
I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help with the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the Family Search Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox had stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first update Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox browser. So, I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with the IE8.
I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the screen from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the <- -> arrows to go from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of the screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family Search on Firefox, only on IE.
On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner where you can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the whole page, where before we could print out just a specific portion. George says he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so complicated. I had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed. I am going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
Thank you so much for your help.
Emilie
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
>
> Emily,
>
> It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update, It's the
> websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an update such as
> the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player the cause of
> your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for the Adobe
> Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
>
> As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are under a
> folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> *
> Armando
>
> *
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Alice,
> >
> > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think all I had
> > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen came up
> > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the outdated Flash
> > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come up
> > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does, but it made
> > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file (?) was
> > corrupted.
> >
> > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in Foxfire), but
> > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do and use the
> > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> >
> > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the desktop and
> > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can tell me
> > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I don't want
> > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> >
> > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish me luck!
> >
> > Emilie
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > >
> > > Emilie,
> > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install Firefox
> > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it created a
> > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my info
> > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use the
> > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch. So far I
> > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
> > Alice
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alice,
> > >
> > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over and
> > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand
> > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it
> > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to 75% in
> > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save, Print,
> > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > >
> > > Emilie
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > >
> > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and at
> > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the bottom bar
> > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides
> > automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date. Is
> > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at the
> > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > >
> > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
The download must have been interrupted to ensure you don't install a Flash
Player with a security flaw.
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/critical-security-updates-for-adobe-…
You can resize webpages by holding down the CTRL button and moving the mouse
wheel or holding down the CTRL button and pressing + or - on the number pad
of the keyboard. Each website you do this for will retain the zoom level you
choose for future visits. There is also a way to add zoom controls to the
Firefox toolbar.
https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-customize-toolbars?redire…
For some reason I never noticed we could previously save a portion of an
image. I would always download the whole image then crop it with Windows
Paint.
Armando
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
>
> Armando,
>
> I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites from
> IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
>
> I have more questions:
>
> I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help with
> the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the Family Search
> Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox had
> stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first update
> Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox browser. So,
> I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with the IE8.
>
> I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the screen
> from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the <- -> arrows to go
> from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of the
> screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family Search on
> Firefox, only on IE.
>
> On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner where you
> can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
>
> Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the whole
> page, where before we could print out just a specific portion. George says
> he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so complicated. I
> had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed. I am
> going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
>
> Thank you so much for your help.
>
> Emilie
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> >
> > Emily,
> >
> > It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update, It's the
> > websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an update such
> as
> > the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player the cause
> of
> > your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for the
> Adobe
> > Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
> >
> > As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are under a
> > folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> >
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> > *
> > Armando
> >
> > *
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Alice,
> > >
> > > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think all I
> had
> > > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen came
> up
> > > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the outdated
> Flash
> > > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come up
> > > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does, but it
> made
> > > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file (?)
> was
> > > corrupted.
> > >
> > > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in Foxfire),
> but
> > > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do and
> use the
> > > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> > >
> > > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the desktop
> and
> > > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can tell
> me
> > > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I don't
> want
> > > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> > >
> > > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish me
> luck!
> > >
> > > Emilie
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > >
> > > > Emilie,
> > > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install Firefox
> > > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it created
> a
> > > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my info
> > > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use the
> > > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch. So
> far I
> > > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
> > > Alice
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Alice,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over
> and
> > > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand
> > > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it
> > > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to
> 75% in
> > > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save,
> Print,
> > > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > > >
> > > > Emilie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and
> at
> > > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the
> bottom bar
> > > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides
> > > automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date.
> Is
> > > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at
> the
> > > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > > >
> > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > >
> > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > >
> > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > >
> > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
Armando,
What a treasure you are! It worked, the CTRL with the - .
Alice--- Try the above to re-size the window and you can see the Save, Print, and the forward and backward arrows. Hoo-ray!
Armando----You didn't know about the printing of just a portion? When I used to click on Print it gave you the option to select just a portion --- you would move the sides and top of the image and isolate what you wanted within yellow lines then it would print just that. It was wonderful. It made the copy so big and clear, unless the microfilming was really bad, then you couldn't do anything about that except to ask Family Search in Salt Lake to find a better microfilmed image. I sure hope they fix that. Ancestry.com still has that option where you can print a whole census page or "Current View" when you enlarge it on their screen.
Emilie
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:24:04 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
>
> The download must have been interrupted to ensure you don't install a Flash
> Player with a security flaw.
> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/critical-security-updates-for-adobe-…
>
> You can resize webpages by holding down the CTRL button and moving the mouse
> wheel or holding down the CTRL button and pressing + or - on the number pad
> of the keyboard. Each website you do this for will retain the zoom level you
> choose for future visits. There is also a way to add zoom controls to the
> Firefox toolbar.
> https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-customize-toolbars?redire…
>
> For some reason I never noticed we could previously save a portion of an
> image. I would always download the whole image then crop it with Windows
> Paint.
>
> Armando
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Armando,
> >
> > I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites from
> > IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
> >
> > I have more questions:
> >
> > I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help with
> > the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the Family Search
> > Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox had
> > stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first update
> > Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox browser. So,
> > I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with the IE8.
> >
> > I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the screen
> > from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the <- -> arrows to go
> > from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of the
> > screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family Search on
> > Firefox, only on IE.
> >
> > On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner where you
> > can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
> >
> > Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the whole
> > page, where before we could print out just a specific portion. George says
> > he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so complicated. I
> > had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed. I am
> > going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
> >
> > Thank you so much for your help.
> >
> > Emilie
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > >
> > > Emily,
> > >
> > > It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update, It's the
> > > websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an update such
> > as
> > > the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player the cause
> > of
> > > your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for the
> > Adobe
> > > Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
> > >
> > > As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are under a
> > > folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> > >
> > http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> > > *
> > > Armando
> > >
> > > *
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Alice,
> > > >
> > > > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think all I
> > had
> > > > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen came
> > up
> > > > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the outdated
> > Flash
> > > > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come up
> > > > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does, but it
> > made
> > > > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file (?)
> > was
> > > > corrupted.
> > > >
> > > > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in Foxfire),
> > but
> > > > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do and
> > use the
> > > > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> > > >
> > > > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the desktop
> > and
> > > > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can tell
> > me
> > > > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I don't
> > want
> > > > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish me
> > luck!
> > > >
> > > > Emilie
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > >
> > > > > Emilie,
> > > > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install Firefox
> > > > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it created
> > a
> > > > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my info
> > > > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use the
> > > > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch. So
> > far I
> > > > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
> > > > Alice
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Alice,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try over
> > and
> > > > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand
> > > > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it
> > > > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100% to
> > 75% in
> > > > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the Save,
> > Print,
> > > > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emilie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states and
> > at
> > > > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the
> > bottom bar
> > > > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar slides
> > > > automatically back to the left before you can click on a category/date.
> > Is
> > > > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab at
> > the
> > > > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > >
> > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > > >
> > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > >
> > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > > >
> > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > >
> > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > >
> > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
I see what you are doing. You aren't actually saving a portion you are
printing a portion. I never print images, I always save them,except for the
instance where I am going to send some to an uncle by mail to see if he can
help me with a few missing relatives.
Armando
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
>
> Armando,
>
> What a treasure you are! It worked, the CTRL with the - .
>
> Alice--- Try the above to re-size the window and you can see the Save,
> Print, and the forward and backward arrows. Hoo-ray!
>
> Armando----You didn't know about the printing of just a portion? When I
> used to click on Print it gave you the option to select just a portion ---
> you would move the sides and top of the image and isolate what you wanted
> within yellow lines then it would print just that. It was wonderful. It
> made the copy so big and clear, unless the microfilming was really bad, then
> you couldn't do anything about that except to ask Family Search in Salt Lake
> to find a better microfilmed image. I sure hope they fix that.
> Ancestry.com still has that option where you can print a whole census page
> or "Current View" when you enlarge it on their screen.
>
> Emilie
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:24:04 -0500
> > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> >
> > The download must have been interrupted to ensure you don't install a
> Flash
> > Player with a security flaw.
> >
> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/critical-security-updates-for-adobe-…
> >
> > You can resize webpages by holding down the CTRL button and moving the
> mouse
> > wheel or holding down the CTRL button and pressing + or - on the number
> pad
> > of the keyboard. Each website you do this for will retain the zoom level
> you
> > choose for future visits. There is also a way to add zoom controls to the
> > Firefox toolbar.
> >
> https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-customize-toolbars?redire…
> >
> > For some reason I never noticed we could previously save a portion of an
> > image. I would always download the whole image then crop it with Windows
> > Paint.
> >
> > Armando
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Armando,
> > >
> > > I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites from
> > > IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
> > >
> > > I have more questions:
> > >
> > > I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help
> with
> > > the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the Family
> Search
> > > Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox
> had
> > > stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first update
> > > Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox browser.
> So,
> > > I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with the
> IE8.
> > >
> > > I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the
> screen
> > > from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the <- -> arrows
> to go
> > > from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of the
> > > screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family Search
> on
> > > Firefox, only on IE.
> > >
> > > On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner where
> you
> > > can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
> > >
> > > Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the whole
> > > page, where before we could print out just a specific portion. George
> says
> > > he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so complicated.
> I
> > > had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed. I
> am
> > > going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
> > >
> > > Thank you so much for your help.
> > >
> > > Emilie
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> > > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > > >
> > > > Emily,
> > > >
> > > > It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update, It's
> the
> > > > websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an update
> such
> > > as
> > > > the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player the
> cause
> > > of
> > > > your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for the
> > > Adobe
> > > > Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
> > > >
> > > > As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are under
> a
> > > > folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> > > >
> > >
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> > > > *
> > > > Armando
> > > >
> > > > *
> > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Alice,
> > > > >
> > > > > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think
> all I
> > > had
> > > > > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen
> came
> > > up
> > > > > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the
> outdated
> > > Flash
> > > > > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come
> up
> > > > > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does,
> but it
> > > made
> > > > > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file
> (?)
> > > was
> > > > > corrupted.
> > > > >
> > > > > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in
> Foxfire),
> > > but
> > > > > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do
> and
> > > use the
> > > > > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the
> desktop
> > > and
> > > > > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can
> tell
> > > me
> > > > > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I
> don't
> > > want
> > > > > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish
> me
> > > luck!
> > > > >
> > > > > Emilie
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emilie,
> > > > > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install
> Firefox
> > > > > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it
> created
> > > a
> > > > > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my
> info
> > > > > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use
> the
> > > > > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch.
> So
> > > far I
> > > > > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers
> crossed.
> > > > > Alice
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try
> over
> > > and
> > > > > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand
> > > > > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it
> > > > > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100%
> to
> > > 75% in
> > > > > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the
> Save,
> > > Print,
> > > > > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states
> and
> > > at
> > > > > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the
> > > bottom bar
> > > > > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar
> slides
> > > > > automatically back to the left before you can click on a
> category/date.
> > > Is
> > > > > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab
> at
> > > the
> > > > > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> > > > > > > To post, send email to:
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > > > > > To post, send email to:
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > > > > > To post, send email to:
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > To post, send email to:
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> > > > >
> > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > >
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> >
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> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>
Armando,
I never tried saving just the portion I isolated, but maybe there was a Save function for it, I don't remember now.
My goodness, you save them? In your computer or to another device? I don't save anything, I print it out because I can retrieve it faster than searching for it in the computer, and I am afraid someone would steal my computer. No one is going to steal my 75 binders (one for each line), but then the house could catch fire and I would lose them. Well, whichever way, the repository is always online now so we would just have to find the images all over again.
I had another problem with Firefox. I tried to e-mail a record link to a cousin in Texas, and I couldn't do it because when I am on Firefox the e-mail defaulted to a really old MSN Explorer browser (the one with the butterfly) that is still in my computer from when I had just dial-up. I will have to call MSN and see if they can tell me how to keep that old thing from launching itself. Why it launched that and not IE8 is a mystery. What I am doing now is just going back to the IE8 browser to use that e-mail system.
Thanks for everything,
Emillie
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:37:28 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
>
> I see what you are doing. You aren't actually saving a portion you are
> printing a portion. I never print images, I always save them,except for the
> instance where I am going to send some to an uncle by mail to see if he can
> help me with a few missing relatives.
>
> Armando
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Armando,
> >
> > What a treasure you are! It worked, the CTRL with the - .
> >
> > Alice--- Try the above to re-size the window and you can see the Save,
> > Print, and the forward and backward arrows. Hoo-ray!
> >
> > Armando----You didn't know about the printing of just a portion? When I
> > used to click on Print it gave you the option to select just a portion ---
> > you would move the sides and top of the image and isolate what you wanted
> > within yellow lines then it would print just that. It was wonderful. It
> > made the copy so big and clear, unless the microfilming was really bad, then
> > you couldn't do anything about that except to ask Family Search in Salt Lake
> > to find a better microfilmed image. I sure hope they fix that.
> > Ancestry.com still has that option where you can print a whole census page
> > or "Current View" when you enlarge it on their screen.
> >
> > Emilie
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:24:04 -0500
> > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > >
> > > The download must have been interrupted to ensure you don't install a
> > Flash
> > > Player with a security flaw.
> > >
> > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/critical-security-updates-for-adobe-…
> > >
> > > You can resize webpages by holding down the CTRL button and moving the
> > mouse
> > > wheel or holding down the CTRL button and pressing + or - on the number
> > pad
> > > of the keyboard. Each website you do this for will retain the zoom level
> > you
> > > choose for future visits. There is also a way to add zoom controls to the
> > > Firefox toolbar.
> > >
> > https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-customize-toolbars?redire…
> > >
> > > For some reason I never noticed we could previously save a portion of an
> > > image. I would always download the whole image then crop it with Windows
> > > Paint.
> > >
> > > Armando
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Armando,
> > > >
> > > > I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites from
> > > > IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
> > > >
> > > > I have more questions:
> > > >
> > > > I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help
> > with
> > > > the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the Family
> > Search
> > > > Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox
> > had
> > > > stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first update
> > > > Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox browser.
> > So,
> > > > I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with the
> > IE8.
> > > >
> > > > I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the
> > screen
> > > > from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the <- -> arrows
> > to go
> > > > from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of the
> > > > screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family Search
> > on
> > > > Firefox, only on IE.
> > > >
> > > > On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner where
> > you
> > > > can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the whole
> > > > page, where before we could print out just a specific portion. George
> > says
> > > > he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so complicated.
> > I
> > > > had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed. I
> > am
> > > > going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you so much for your help.
> > > >
> > > > Emilie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> > > > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emily,
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update, It's
> > the
> > > > > websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an update
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player the
> > cause
> > > > of
> > > > > your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for the
> > > > Adobe
> > > > > Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are under
> > a
> > > > > folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> > > > > *
> > > > > Armando
> > > > >
> > > > > *
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I think
> > all I
> > > > had
> > > > > > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a screen
> > came
> > > > up
> > > > > > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the
> > outdated
> > > > Flash
> > > > > > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would come
> > up
> > > > > > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does,
> > but it
> > > > made
> > > > > > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some file
> > (?)
> > > > was
> > > > > > corrupted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in
> > Foxfire),
> > > > but
> > > > > > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do
> > and
> > > > use the
> > > > > > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the
> > desktop
> > > > and
> > > > > > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone can
> > tell
> > > > me
> > > > > > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I
> > don't
> > > > want
> > > > > > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox. Wish
> > me
> > > > luck!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Emilie,
> > > > > > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install
> > Firefox
> > > > > > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it
> > created
> > > > a
> > > > > > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my
> > info
> > > > > > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to use
> > the
> > > > > > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on Familysearch.
> > So
> > > > far I
> > > > > > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers
> > crossed.
> > > > > > Alice
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try
> > over
> > > > and
> > > > > > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to stand
> > > > > > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained it
> > > > > > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from 100%
> > to
> > > > 75% in
> > > > > > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the
> > Save,
> > > > Print,
> > > > > > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > > > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different states
> > and
> > > > at
> > > > > > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide the
> > > > bottom bar
> > > > > > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar
> > slides
> > > > > > automatically back to the left before you can click on a
> > category/date.
> > > > Is
> > > > > > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback tab
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
> > > > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To post, send email to:
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > > >
> > > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > >
> > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > > >
> > > > To post, send email to:
> > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > >
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
I save them to the computer under a folder that has the same name as the
surname of the family. I name the files with the names of people in the
record. This make for finding the records easy. You can also use the search
function to find the files this way. I you buy a small fireproof case and do
a weekly backup of everything to an external harddrive or USB drive and put
the drive into the case everytime you are done backing up then you won't
have to worry about a fire damaging it. If you save the drive in a sealed
plastic bag it will also be safe from water damage due to a flood. You
should already be doing this for small valuables and important documents you
never want to lose in a natural disaster.
As far as email you need to change the email client setting in Firefox to
use Use and choose Hotmail if it's in there.
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Changing%20the%20e-mail%20program%2…
Armando
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
>
> Armando,
>
> I never tried saving just the portion I isolated, but maybe there was a
> Save function for it, I don't remember now.
>
> My goodness, you save them? In your computer or to another device? I
> don't save anything, I print it out because I can retrieve it faster than
> searching for it in the computer, and I am afraid someone would steal my
> computer. No one is going to steal my 75 binders (one for each line), but
> then the house could catch fire and I would lose them. Well, whichever way,
> the repository is always online now so we would just have to find the images
> all over again.
>
> I had another problem with Firefox. I tried to e-mail a record link to a
> cousin in Texas, and I couldn't do it because when I am on Firefox the
> e-mail defaulted to a really old MSN Explorer browser (the one with the
> butterfly) that is still in my computer from when I had just dial-up. I
> will have to call MSN and see if they can tell me how to keep that old thing
> from launching itself. Why it launched that and not IE8 is a mystery. What
> I am doing now is just going back to the IE8 browser to use that e-mail
> system.
>
> Thanks for everything,
>
> Emillie
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:37:28 -0500
> > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> >
> > I see what you are doing. You aren't actually saving a portion you are
> > printing a portion. I never print images, I always save them,except for
> the
> > instance where I am going to send some to an uncle by mail to see if he
> can
> > help me with a few missing relatives.
> >
> > Armando
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Armando,
> > >
> > > What a treasure you are! It worked, the CTRL with the - .
> > >
> > > Alice--- Try the above to re-size the window and you can see the Save,
> > > Print, and the forward and backward arrows. Hoo-ray!
> > >
> > > Armando----You didn't know about the printing of just a portion? When I
> > > used to click on Print it gave you the option to select just a portion
> ---
> > > you would move the sides and top of the image and isolate what you
> wanted
> > > within yellow lines then it would print just that. It was wonderful. It
> > > made the copy so big and clear, unless the microfilming was really bad,
> then
> > > you couldn't do anything about that except to ask Family Search in Salt
> Lake
> > > to find a better microfilmed image. I sure hope they fix that.
> > > Ancestry.com still has that option where you can print a whole census
> page
> > > or "Current View" when you enlarge it on their screen.
> > >
> > > Emilie
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:24:04 -0500
> > > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > > >
> > > > The download must have been interrupted to ensure you don't install a
> > > Flash
> > > > Player with a security flaw.
> > > >
> > >
> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/critical-security-updates-for-adobe-…
> > > >
> > > > You can resize webpages by holding down the CTRL button and moving
> the
> > > mouse
> > > > wheel or holding down the CTRL button and pressing + or - on the
> number
> > > pad
> > > > of the keyboard. Each website you do this for will retain the zoom
> level
> > > you
> > > > choose for future visits. There is also a way to add zoom controls to
> the
> > > > Firefox toolbar.
> > > >
> > >
> https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-customize-toolbars?redire…
> > > >
> > > > For some reason I never noticed we could previously save a portion of
> an
> > > > image. I would always download the whole image then crop it with
> Windows
> > > > Paint.
> > > >
> > > > Armando
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Armando,
> > > > >
> > > > > I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites
> from
> > > > > IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have more questions:
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help
> > > with
> > > > > the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the
> Family
> > > Search
> > > > > Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox
> > > had
> > > > > stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first
> update
> > > > > Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox
> browser.
> > > So,
> > > > > I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with
> the
> > > IE8.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the
> > > screen
> > > > > from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the - -> arrows
> > > to go
> > > > > from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of
> the
> > > > > screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family
> Search
> > > on
> > > > > Firefox, only on IE.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner
> where
> > > you
> > > > > can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the
> whole
> > > > > page, where before we could print out just a specific portion.
> George
> > > says
> > > > > he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so
> complicated.
> > > I
> > > > > had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed.
> I
> > > am
> > > > > going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you so much for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emilie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> > > > > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded
> Firefox.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emily,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update,
> It's
> > > the
> > > > > > websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an
> update
> > > such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player
> the
> > > cause
> > > > > of
> > > > > > your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for
> the
> > > > > Adobe
> > > > > > Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are
> under
> > > a
> > > > > > folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > Armando
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I
> think
> > > all I
> > > > > had
> > > > > > > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a
> screen
> > > came
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the
> > > outdated
> > > > > Flash
> > > > > > > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would
> come
> > > up
> > > > > > > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does,
> > > but it
> > > > > made
> > > > > > > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some
> file
> > > (?)
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > corrupted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in
> > > Foxfire),
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do
> > > and
> > > > > use the
> > > > > > > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the
> > > desktop
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone
> can
> > > tell
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I
> > > don't
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox.
> Wish
> > > me
> > > > > luck!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Emilie,
> > > > > > > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install
> > > Firefox
> > > > > > > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it
> > > created
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my
> > > info
> > > > > > > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to
> use
> > > the
> > > > > > > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on
> Familysearch.
> > > So
> > > > > far I
> > > > > > > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers
> > > crossed.
> > > > > > > Alice
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia
> auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try
> > > over
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to
> stand
> > > > > > > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained
> it
> > > > > > > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from
> 100%
> > > to
> > > > > 75% in
> > > > > > > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the
> > > Save,
> > > > > Print,
> > > > > > > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > > > > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different
> states
> > > and
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide
> the
> > > > > bottom bar
> > > > > > > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar
> > > slides
> > > > > > > automatically back to the left before you can click on a
> > > category/date.
> > > > > Is
> > > > > > > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback
> tab
> > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
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Armando,
If only I was one tenth as computer literate as you! I did buy an external drive and a small "thumb" drive, but when I tried to install them, they messed up my computer so badly that I just uninstalled them. We do have a box at the bank for documents.
I went to Best Buy where I bought the drives and asked them to help me but they got too impatient. They had a home service, but they wanted $100 just for coming out to start.
Thanks again for your suggestions, and I will go to that link and see if I can manage to change the e-mail client setting in Firefox.
Emilie
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:15:37 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
>
> I save them to the computer under a folder that has the same name as the
> surname of the family. I name the files with the names of people in the
> record. This make for finding the records easy. You can also use the search
> function to find the files this way. I you buy a small fireproof case and do
> a weekly backup of everything to an external harddrive or USB drive and put
> the drive into the case everytime you are done backing up then you won't
> have to worry about a fire damaging it. If you save the drive in a sealed
> plastic bag it will also be safe from water damage due to a flood. You
> should already be doing this for small valuables and important documents you
> never want to lose in a natural disaster.
>
> As far as email you need to change the email client setting in Firefox to
> use Use and choose Hotmail if it's in there.
> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Changing%20the%20e-mail%20program%2…
>
> Armando
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Emilie Garcia
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Armando,
> >
> > I never tried saving just the portion I isolated, but maybe there was a
> > Save function for it, I don't remember now.
> >
> > My goodness, you save them? In your computer or to another device? I
> > don't save anything, I print it out because I can retrieve it faster than
> > searching for it in the computer, and I am afraid someone would steal my
> > computer. No one is going to steal my 75 binders (one for each line), but
> > then the house could catch fire and I would lose them. Well, whichever way,
> > the repository is always online now so we would just have to find the images
> > all over again.
> >
> > I had another problem with Firefox. I tried to e-mail a record link to a
> > cousin in Texas, and I couldn't do it because when I am on Firefox the
> > e-mail defaulted to a really old MSN Explorer browser (the one with the
> > butterfly) that is still in my computer from when I had just dial-up. I
> > will have to call MSN and see if they can tell me how to keep that old thing
> > from launching itself. Why it launched that and not IE8 is a mystery. What
> > I am doing now is just going back to the IE8 browser to use that e-mail
> > system.
> >
> > Thanks for everything,
> >
> > Emillie
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:37:28 -0500
> > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > >
> > > I see what you are doing. You aren't actually saving a portion you are
> > > printing a portion. I never print images, I always save them,except for
> > the
> > > instance where I am going to send some to an uncle by mail to see if he
> > can
> > > help me with a few missing relatives.
> > >
> > > Armando
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Armando,
> > > >
> > > > What a treasure you are! It worked, the CTRL with the - .
> > > >
> > > > Alice--- Try the above to re-size the window and you can see the Save,
> > > > Print, and the forward and backward arrows. Hoo-ray!
> > > >
> > > > Armando----You didn't know about the printing of just a portion? When I
> > > > used to click on Print it gave you the option to select just a portion
> > ---
> > > > you would move the sides and top of the image and isolate what you
> > wanted
> > > > within yellow lines then it would print just that. It was wonderful. It
> > > > made the copy so big and clear, unless the microfilming was really bad,
> > then
> > > > you couldn't do anything about that except to ask Family Search in Salt
> > Lake
> > > > to find a better microfilmed image. I sure hope they fix that.
> > > > Ancestry.com still has that option where you can print a whole census
> > page
> > > > or "Current View" when you enlarge it on their screen.
> > > >
> > > > Emilie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:24:04 -0500
> > > > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded Firefox.
> > > > >
> > > > > The download must have been interrupted to ensure you don't install a
> > > > Flash
> > > > > Player with a security flaw.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/03/critical-security-updates-for-adobe-…
> > > > >
> > > > > You can resize webpages by holding down the CTRL button and moving
> > the
> > > > mouse
> > > > > wheel or holding down the CTRL button and pressing + or - on the
> > number
> > > > pad
> > > > > of the keyboard. Each website you do this for will retain the zoom
> > level
> > > > you
> > > > > choose for future visits. There is also a way to add zoom controls to
> > the
> > > > > Firefox toolbar.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-customize-toolbars?redire…
> > > > >
> > > > > For some reason I never noticed we could previously save a portion of
> > an
> > > > > image. I would always download the whole image then crop it with
> > Windows
> > > > > Paint.
> > > > >
> > > > > Armando
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Armando,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I followed the instructions you sent re how to import my Favorites
> > from
> > > > > > IE8, and it worked. Thank you so much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have more questions:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried downloading the Adobe update to the IE8 but it didn't help
> > > > with
> > > > > > the Family Search site there, I have to use Firefox to use the
> > Family
> > > > Search
> > > > > > Viewer. The reason I updated my Adobe Flash Player was that Firefox
> > > > had
> > > > > > stopped loading and brought up a screen that said I had to first
> > update
> > > > > > Adobe before I could proceed with the download of the Firefox
> > browser.
> > > > So,
> > > > > > I don't think that just updating Adobe Viewer would help me with
> > the
> > > > IE8.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like Firefox now, except for one thing. How do you re-size the
> > > > screen
> > > > > > from 100% to 75% so I can see the Save, Print, and the - -> arrows
> > > > to go
> > > > > > from one page to another? Those are out of sight to the right of
> > the
> > > > > > screen. That part of the top bar menu can't be seen on Family
> > Search
> > > > on
> > > > > > Firefox, only on IE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the IE8 browser there is a place on the bottom right corner
> > where
> > > > you
> > > > > > can re-size the screen and I don't see that on Firefox.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, also, on the new Family Search viewer, it will only print the
> > whole
> > > > > > page, where before we could print out just a specific portion.
> > George
> > > > says
> > > > > > he saves the whole image then crops it, but that sounds so
> > complicated.
> > > > I
> > > > > > had to use my scanner to enlarge the portion of the page I printed.
> > I
> > > > am
> > > > > > going to contact Feedback and ask about that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you so much for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:47:09 -0500
> > > > > > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles? Downloaded
> > Firefox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Emily,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's not that Firefox won't work without a Flash Player update,
> > It's
> > > > the
> > > > > > > websites that use the Flash Player that won't work without an
> > update
> > > > such
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > the Family Search viewer. It looks like an oudated Flash Player
> > the
> > > > cause
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > your problem with IE after all. You can update the IE version for
> > the
> > > > > > Adobe
> > > > > > > Flash Player at get.adobe.com/flashplayer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as the Favorites imported from IE into Firefox, they are
> > under
> > > > a
> > > > > > > folder called* **From Internet Explorer located under bookmarks*.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Importing%20favorites%20and%20other…
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > Armando
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Emilie Garcia
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You read my mind! I too just now downloaded Firefox, but I
> > think
> > > > all I
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > needed to do was to update my Adobe Flash Player because a
> > screen
> > > > came
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > after the download that said Firefox wouldn't work with the
> > > > outdated
> > > > > > Flash
> > > > > > > > Player I had. (I wondered why that Flash Player screen would
> > come
> > > > up
> > > > > > > > sometimes inviting me to update it). I don't know what it does,
> > > > but it
> > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > Firefox work. I also got another screen that said that some
> > file
> > > > (?)
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > corrupted.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I chose the option to pull over my Favorites (Bookmarks in
> > > > Foxfire),
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > they are not there. So for the time being I will do like you do
> > > > and
> > > > > > use the
> > > > > > > > IE8 browser for my favorites except Family Search.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I also am now seeing the photo files that I saved appear on the
> > > > desktop
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > not among my list of My Pictures or My Photos. Maybe someone
> > can
> > > > tell
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > why that is. I save lots of photos and attachment files and I
> > > > don't
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > them cluttering up my screen saver screen.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I haven't yet tried to bring Family Search up with Firefox.
> > Wish
> > > > me
> > > > > > luck!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:13:38 -0700
> > > > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Emilie,
> > > > > > > > > I'm also not AT ALL computer savvy, but was able to install
> > > > Firefox
> > > > > > > > myself with my XP. It solves the Familysearch problem, but it
> > > > created
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > different "situation" for me. I have no idea how to move all my
> > > > info
> > > > > > > > including mail from my usual Yahoo homepage, so I will have to
> > use
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > Firefox desktop icon exclusively for researching on
> > Familysearch.
> > > > So
> > > > > > far I
> > > > > > > > don't see any problem with doing that; I'm keeping my fingers
> > > > crossed.
> > > > > > > > Alice
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Emilie Garcia
> > auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: Emilie Garcia
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 6:37 PM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alice,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, those are the exact problems I am having. I have to try
> > > > over
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > over again to get the list of records within a parroquia to
> > stand
> > > > > > > > still---that bar keeps sliding back to the left. You explained
> > it
> > > > > > > > perfectly. Also, I had to change the zoom on my screen from
> > 100%
> > > > to
> > > > > > 75% in
> > > > > > > > order to see the right side of their image screen to where the
> > > > Save,
> > > > > > Print,
> > > > > > > > and the two left/right arrows are.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Emilie
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:17:07 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > From: alicebb@att.net
> > > > > > > > > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] website troubles?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Now I'm experiencing technical difficulties.
> > > > > > > > > > Under Mexican church records I've gone to two different
> > states
> > > > and
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > each when I'm at the parroquia of choice, I'm unable to slide
> > the
> > > > > > bottom bar
> > > > > > > > to the right to choose which records I'd like to open. The bar
> > > > slides
> > > > > > > > automatically back to the left before you can click on a
> > > > category/date.
> > > > > > Is
> > > > > > > > anyone experiencing the same problem? I don't see the feedback
> > tab
> > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > right of the page to report a problem. Thanks, Alice Blake
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> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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