Still Trouble with Family Search

Help!!
 
I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas.

Comments

Comment

Hello Alicia,

When they did away with the Pilot search they also changed the URLs (website
addresses) to the films. If you are using the same addresses as a few months
ago that might be your problem.
Try this link for Zacatecas and let us know if it works for you,
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Armando

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Help!!
>
> I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've
> always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688,
> bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted
> data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for
> the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image
> loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing
> occured.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Alicia

Comment

Alicia,

Did the link below work for you? I tried doing what you did with the pages for Nochistlan, 1894-1896 and I had no trouble going from page to page. I never save links to the particular films, I just start with going to Search-- Mexican Catholic Church Records, then clicked on the state of Zacatecas, then the city, then the parish, and proceed to look for the pages with the dates I need. I have no trouble using Family Search for images or indexes unless I am on when they decide to temporarily bring down the system to update it. Sometimes a message will appear to try again later, but not always.

So, it could be that if you are trying to use an old link on Favorites, that might be the problem, or could it be the version of browser and version of Windows you use? I was told that the latest IE 9 version works well only with Windows Vista. I have IE8 with Windows XP and everything works fine.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:12:57 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
>
> Hello Alicia,
>
> When they did away with the Pilot search they also changed the URLs (website
> addresses) to the films. If you are using the same addresses as a few months
> ago that might be your problem.
> Try this link for Zacatecas and let us know if it works for you,
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…
>
> Armando
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
>
> > Help!!
> >
> > I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've
> > always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688,
> > bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted
> > data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for
> > the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image
> > loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing
> > occured.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alicia
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
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> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >

Comment

Thanks everyone for your input. I know I wasn't using an old link. I had just cleaned out the cache and all cookies. I have Windows 7 and I just completed updating my machine. I'm going to try Armando's link and will let you know if I'm succesful in re-entering the family search site.
 
I sure appreciate all of you, Emilie, Armando and Pat and everyone always willing to jump in and help!
 
Gracias, y muy agradecida al foro por su apoyo, como siempre!!
Alicia

From: Emilie Garcia
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search

Alicia,

Did the link below work for you?  I tried doing what you did with the pages for Nochistlan, 1894-1896 and I had no trouble going from page to page.  I never save links to the particular films, I just start with going to Search-- Mexican Catholic Church Records, then clicked on the state of Zacatecas, then the city, then the parish, and proceed to look for the pages with the dates I need.  I have no trouble using Family Search for images or indexes unless I am on when they decide to temporarily bring down the system to update it.  Sometimes a message will appear to try again later, but not always. 

So, it could be that if you are trying to use an old link on Favorites, that might be the problem, or could it be the version of browser and version of Windows you use?  I was told that the latest IE 9 version works well only with Windows Vista.  I have IE8 with Windows XP and everything works fine.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:12:57 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
>
> Hello Alicia,
>
> When they did away with the Pilot search they also changed the URLs (website
> addresses) to the films. If you are using the same addresses as a few months
> ago that might be your problem.
> Try this link for Zacatecas and let us know if it works for you,
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…
>
> Armando
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
>
> > Help!!
> >
> > I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've
> > always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688,
> > bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted
> > data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for
> > the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image
> > loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing
> > occured.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alicia
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >

Comment

I emailed them and this is the answer I got...hope it helps...I just installed firefox and use that instead...works fine for me now.

If this regards Indexing, please advise.
If you are on a 64bit version of Vista or Windows 7 make certain you are not using the 64bit version of Internet Explorer, rather that you are using the normal 32bit version. Flash and many other add-ons do not work on the 64bit version.
Sometimes, the installation of Flash Player can become corrupt. It may need to be uninstalled and then reinstalled.

The attached documents may be helpful.
Click anywhere on the blue links below.
If you continue to have problems, you can reply to this email or you can call us at our toll free number at 1-866-406-1830 and someone will assist you.

Sincerely,
FamilySearch
support@familysearch.org

Document Links:
Historical Records: System requirements
How to view the previous and next image when using the Image Viewer in Historical

Amalia Hernandez Arias

Comment

Thank you again, I just installed Firefox, wish me luck.

Alicia

________________________________
From: "hernandezmol@msn.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with

I emailed them and this is the answer I got...hope it helps...I just installed firefox and use that instead...works fine for me now.
If this regards Indexing, please advise. If you are on a 64bit version of Vista or Windows 7 make certain you are not using the 64bit version of Internet Explorer, rather that you are using the normal 32bit version. Flash and many other add-ons do not work on the 64bit version. Sometimes, the installation of Flash Player can become corrupt. It may need to be uninstalled and then reinstalled.
The attached documents may be helpful. Click anywhere on the blue links below. If you continue to have problems, you can reply to this email or you can call us at our toll free number at 1-866-406-1830 and someone will assist you.

Sincerely, FamilySearch support@familysearch.org

Document Links:
Historical Records: System requirements
How to view the previous and next image when using the Image Viewer in Historical

Amalia Hernandez Arias

Comment

That should work. I realized after I made my suggestion about the link that
I have had the Adobe Flash Player crash on me and cause me to lose the image
in my browser.and that sounds more like what was happening to you, although
with me there would be a message telling me what caused the problem. Since
you were using a different browser it's probably why you didn't get the
crash message. I use Firefox also.

Armando

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

> Thank you again, I just installed Firefox, wish me luck.
>
> Alicia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "hernandezmol@msn.com"
> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with
>
> I emailed them and this is the answer I got...hope it helps...I just
> installed firefox and use that instead...works fine for me now.
> If this regards Indexing, please advise. If you are on a 64bit version of
> Vista or Windows 7 make certain you are not using the 64bit version of
> Internet Explorer, rather that you are using the normal 32bit version. Flash
> and many other add-ons do not work on the 64bit version. Sometimes, the
> installation of Flash Player can become corrupt. It may need to be
> uninstalled and then reinstalled.
> The attached documents may be helpful. Click anywhere on the blue links
> below. If you continue to have problems, you can reply to this email or you
> can call us at our toll free number at 1-866-406-1830 and someone will
> assist you.
>
> Sincerely, FamilySearch support@familysearch.org
>
>
> Document Links:
> Historical Records: System requirements
> How to view the previous and next image when using the Image Viewer in
> Historical
>
> Amalia Hernandez Arias

Comment

Hi Alicia,

I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?

I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846 from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.

It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family History Center.

Thank you,
Pat Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alicia Carrillo"
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search

Help!!

I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688, bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing occured.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Alicia

Comment

Patricia,

I found the image by going to Search - US, Canada, Mexico --- then clicking on Mexico Jalisco Church Records, then Santa Maria de Los Angeles on the list of cities, then to the parish. From there I went to page 89 I think and started looking for the image.

The image is very blurry and my eyesight is so bad, but I could make out that the paternal grandparents were Vicente Corvera, and B--?--la Marquez. The maternal grandparents were
Cesario [?] Gonzales and Demetria Aleman.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:06:11 +0000
> From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
>
> Hi Alicia,
>
> I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?
>
> I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846 from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.
>
> It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family History Center.
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Silva Corbera
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alicia Carrillo"
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
>
> Help!!
>
> I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688, bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing occured.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Alicia

Comment

Hi Emilie,

Thank you for helping...I think that maybe I'm not on the correct version for viewing all of the Jalisco films...here's what I did and what came up...

Search - US, Canada, Mexico --> Mexico, Catholic Church Records-->Jalisco-->Nombre de Ciudad/Paublo--> listed are the following cities: Colotlan, Huejuquilla el Alto, Huejucar, Los Aquajes, Mezquitic and Refugio...for each city the following parishes are listed...but nothing for S. M. de Los Angeles.

Colotlan --> Parroquia is San Luis Obispo
Huejuquilla el Alto --Inmaculada and San Diego
Huejucar -- San Francisco de Asis
Los Aguajes --San Jose
Mezquitic -- San Juan Bautista
Refugio -- Momax, Zacatecas

I wonder if it's the same situation that Alicia was having with Zacatecas, Nochistlan...I think it was Armando that pointed out that maybe she was using a version prior to the discontinuation of the Pilot program...

Thank you,
Pat Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: "Emilie Garcia"
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:05:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera

Patricia,

I found the image by going to Search - US, Canada, Mexico --- then clicking on Mexico Jalisco Church Records, then Santa Maria de Los Angeles on the list of cities, then to the parish. From there I went to page 89 I think and started looking for the image.

The image is very blurry and my eyesight is so bad, but I could make out that the paternal grandparents were Vicente Corvera, and B--?--la Marquez. The maternal grandparents were
Cesario [?] Gonzales and Demetria Aleman.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:06:11 +0000
> From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
>
> Hi Alicia,
>
> I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?
>
> I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846 from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.
>
> It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family History Center.
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Silva Corbera
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alicia Carrillo"
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
>
> Help!!
>
> I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688, bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing occured.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Alicia

Comment

Pat,

That was me that made the suggestion about Zacatecas but in this case you
are definitely in the wrong place. When you go to Search - US, Canada,
Mexico there will be a
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records that address is -
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

The address for Santa María de los Angeles is
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Armando

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Pat Corbera wrote:

> Hi Emilie,
>
> Thank you for helping...I think that maybe I'm not on the correct version
> for viewing all of the Jalisco films...here's what I did and what came up...
>
> Search - US, Canada, Mexico --> Mexico, Catholic Church
> Records-->Jalisco-->Nombre de Ciudad/Paublo--> listed are the following
> cities: Colotlan, Huejuquilla el Alto, Huejucar, Los Aquajes, Mezquitic and
> Refugio...for each city the following parishes are listed...but nothing for
> S. M. de Los Angeles.
>
> Colotlan --> Parroquia is San Luis Obispo
> Huejuquilla el Alto --Inmaculada and San Diego
> Huejucar -- San Francisco de Asis
> Los Aguajes --San Jose
> Mezquitic -- San Juan Bautista
> Refugio -- Momax, Zacatecas
>
> I wonder if it's the same situation that Alicia was having with Zacatecas,
> Nochistlan...I think it was Armando that pointed out that maybe she was
> using a version prior to the discontinuation of the Pilot program...
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Silva Corbera
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emilie Garcia"
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:05:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera
>
>
> Patricia,
>
> I found the image by going to Search - US, Canada, Mexico --- then clicking
> on Mexico Jalisco Church Records, then Santa Maria de Los Angeles on the
> list of cities, then to the parish. From there I went to page 89 I think
> and started looking for the image.
>
> The image is very blurry and my eyesight is so bad, but I could make out
> that the paternal grandparents were Vicente Corvera, and B--?--la Marquez.
> The maternal grandparents were
> Cesario [?] Gonzales and Demetria Aleman.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:06:11 +0000
> > From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Hi Alicia,
> >
> > I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los
> Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns
> for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?
> >
> > I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846
> from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to
> view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.
> >
> > It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films
> online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family
> History Center.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Pat Silva Corbera
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alicia Carrillo"
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Help!!
> >
> > I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've
> always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688,
> bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted
> data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for
> the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image
> loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing
> occured.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alicia
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
>

Comment

Thank you Armando...I certainly was on the wrong path...truly appreciate your help...

Pat Silva Corbera

Papagaia's Journey of Discovry

www.patriciajcorbera.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando"
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:38:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera

Pat,

That was me that made the suggestion about Zacatecas but in this case you
are definitely in the wrong place. When you go to Search - US, Canada,
Mexico there will be a
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records that address is -
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

The address for Santa María de los Angeles is
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Armando

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Pat Corbera wrote:

> Hi Emilie,
>
> Thank you for helping...I think that maybe I'm not on the correct version
> for viewing all of the Jalisco films...here's what I did and what came up...
>
> Search - US, Canada, Mexico --> Mexico, Catholic Church
> Records-->Jalisco-->Nombre de Ciudad/Paublo--> listed are the following
> cities: Colotlan, Huejuquilla el Alto, Huejucar, Los Aquajes, Mezquitic and
> Refugio...for each city the following parishes are listed...but nothing for
> S. M. de Los Angeles.
>
> Colotlan --> Parroquia is San Luis Obispo
> Huejuquilla el Alto --Inmaculada and San Diego
> Huejucar -- San Francisco de Asis
> Los Aguajes --San Jose
> Mezquitic -- San Juan Bautista
> Refugio -- Momax, Zacatecas
>
> I wonder if it's the same situation that Alicia was having with Zacatecas,
> Nochistlan...I think it was Armando that pointed out that maybe she was
> using a version prior to the discontinuation of the Pilot program...
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Silva Corbera
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emilie Garcia"
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:05:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera
>
>
> Patricia,
>
> I found the image by going to Search - US, Canada, Mexico --- then clicking
> on Mexico Jalisco Church Records, then Santa Maria de Los Angeles on the
> list of cities, then to the parish. From there I went to page 89 I think
> and started looking for the image.
>
> The image is very blurry and my eyesight is so bad, but I could make out
> that the paternal grandparents were Vicente Corvera, and B--?--la Marquez.
> The maternal grandparents were
> Cesario [?] Gonzales and Demetria Aleman.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:06:11 +0000
> > From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Hi Alicia,
> >
> > I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los
> Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns
> for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?
> >
> > I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846
> from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to
> view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.
> >
> > It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films
> online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family
> History Center.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Pat Silva Corbera
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alicia Carrillo"
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Help!!
> >
> > I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've
> always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688,
> bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted
> data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for
> the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image
> loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing
> occured.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alicia
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
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With all the help I've received from our dear Nuestros Ranchos' primos y primas I now know exactly what I did wrong...I stopped when I came upon Mexico Catholic Church Records, but should have scanned down further and clicked on the listing for Jalisco Church Records on the main entry page.

Gosh! talk about not "seeing the forest because all the trees are in the way," certainly applies to me in this situation... ;-)

Thank you Dear Friends!
Pat Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: jcampos@cmt-mexico.com
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:29:58 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santa María de los Ángeles, Jalisco.

Chema

For Santa Maria de los Angeles, Jalisto tray:

https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18725-18037-56?cc=187459…

Is in Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, Santa María de los Angeles.

REGARDS.

Comment

Hi, Patricia,

No, don't go to Mexico Catholic Church Records. Some of the states are not in that category, they have their own down farther on the list below where it says Mexico Catholic Church Records to where it says Mexico Jalisco Church Records or something like that. I think Alicia knows that Zacatecas is still one of the states that is listed under the general Mexico Catholic Church Records.

As for links in Favorites to parts of Family Search, I don't add them to my Favorites because sometimes they don't work.

Emilie

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:09:26 +0000
> From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera
>
> Hi Emilie,
>
> Thank you for helping...I think that maybe I'm not on the correct version for viewing all of the Jalisco films...here's what I did and what came up...
>
> Search - US, Canada, Mexico --> Mexico, Catholic Church Records-->Jalisco-->Nombre de Ciudad/Paublo--> listed are the following cities: Colotlan, Huejuquilla el Alto, Huejucar, Los Aquajes, Mezquitic and Refugio...for each city the following parishes are listed...but nothing for S. M. de Los Angeles.
>
> Colotlan --> Parroquia is San Luis Obispo
> Huejuquilla el Alto --Inmaculada and San Diego
> Huejucar -- San Francisco de Asis
> Los Aguajes --San Jose
> Mezquitic -- San Juan Bautista
> Refugio -- Momax, Zacatecas
>
> I wonder if it's the same situation that Alicia was having with Zacatecas, Nochistlan...I think it was Armando that pointed out that maybe she was using a version prior to the discontinuation of the Pilot program...
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Silva Corbera
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emilie Garcia"
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:05:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera
>
>
> Patricia,
>
> I found the image by going to Search - US, Canada, Mexico --- then clicking on Mexico Jalisco Church Records, then Santa Maria de Los Angeles on the list of cities, then to the parish. From there I went to page 89 I think and started looking for the image.
>
> The image is very blurry and my eyesight is so bad, but I could make out that the paternal grandparents were Vicente Corvera, and B--?--la Marquez. The maternal grandparents were
> Cesario [?] Gonzales and Demetria Aleman.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:06:11 +0000
> > From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Hi Alicia,
> >
> > I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?
> >
> > I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846 from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.
> >
> > It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family History Center.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Pat Silva Corbera
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alicia Carrillo"
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Help!!
> >
> > I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688, bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing occured.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alicia
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
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Emilie,

Thank you so much for all your help, as well as the other Nuestros Ranchos' members.
I'm now in the correct place for viewing the Jalisco films.
Pat Silva Corbera

Papagaia's Journey of Discovry

www.patriciajcorbera.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Emilie Garcia"
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:49:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera

Hi, Patricia,

No, don't go to Mexico Catholic Church Records. Some of the states are not in that category, they have their own down farther on the list below where it says Mexico Catholic Church Records to where it says Mexico Jalisco Church Records or something like that. I think Alicia knows that Zacatecas is still one of the states that is listed under the general Mexico Catholic Church Records.

As for links in Favorites to parts of Family Search, I don't add them to my Favorites because sometimes they don't work.

Emilie

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:09:26 +0000
> From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera
>
> Hi Emilie,
>
> Thank you for helping...I think that maybe I'm not on the correct version for viewing all of the Jalisco films...here's what I did and what came up...
>
> Search - US, Canada, Mexico --> Mexico, Catholic Church Records-->Jalisco-->Nombre de Ciudad/Paublo--> listed are the following cities: Colotlan, Huejuquilla el Alto, Huejucar, Los Aquajes, Mezquitic and Refugio...for each city the following parishes are listed...but nothing for S. M. de Los Angeles.
>
> Colotlan --> Parroquia is San Luis Obispo
> Huejuquilla el Alto --Inmaculada and San Diego
> Huejucar -- San Francisco de Asis
> Los Aguajes --San Jose
> Mezquitic -- San Juan Bautista
> Refugio -- Momax, Zacatecas
>
> I wonder if it's the same situation that Alicia was having with Zacatecas, Nochistlan...I think it was Armando that pointed out that maybe she was using a version prior to the discontinuation of the Pilot program...
>
> Thank you,
> Pat Silva Corbera
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emilie Garcia"
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:05:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Trinidad Corvera
>
>
> Patricia,
>
> I found the image by going to Search - US, Canada, Mexico --- then clicking on Mexico Jalisco Church Records, then Santa Maria de Los Angeles on the list of cities, then to the parish. From there I went to page 89 I think and started looking for the image.
>
> The image is very blurry and my eyesight is so bad, but I could make out that the paternal grandparents were Vicente Corvera, and B--?--la Marquez. The maternal grandparents were
> Cesario [?] Gonzales and Demetria Aleman.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:06:11 +0000
> > From: PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; alliecar@pacbell.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Hi Alicia,
> >
> > I haven't had that problem, but can you tell where Santa Maria De Los Angles, Jalisco films can be found online? I have viewed all of the towns for Jalisco, but did not find a listing for S.M. de Los Angeles?
> >
> > I have a print out for a Jose Trinidad Corvera Gonzalez bapt. 21 Nov 1846 from the above noted parish...Batch C611043 Film # 1158275, and I wanted to view the actual document in hopes that it mentioned the AP and AM.
> >
> > It's wonderful having the capability to view many of these films online...especially for those of us that have limited access to a Family History Center.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Pat Silva Corbera
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alicia Carrillo"
> > To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:31:55 PM
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Still Trouble with Family Search
> >
> > Help!!
> >
> > I'm still having issues with Family Search. I'm accessing it the way I've always accesed it to the state of Zacatecas. I was looking at film # 226688, bautismos de Nochistlan, 1894-1896, Volumen # 66. I viewed and extracted data from image # 336, page # 524, item # 1 and then I used the arrow for the next 3 pages and after that it began with loading image, the image loaded and then it vanished. I tried another film# 226689 and the same thing occured.
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alicia
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> >
> > To post, send email to:
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> >
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>

Me pueden dar la liga de parroquias del estado de Aguascalientes

Los molesto nuevamente, con la liga de la parroquia Aguascalientes.
saludos

Comments

Comment

Esas imágenes si están bajo Mexico, Catholic Church Records

Para todas las ciudades del estado es esta dirección
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Para la ciudad de Aguascalientes es esta dirección
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Saludos
Armando

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wrote:

> Los molesto nuevamente, con la liga de la parroquia Aguascalientes.
> saludos

Baja California Civil Records 1860-1934 at Familysearch

Hi all,
Has anybody else experienced a BLANK page at the newly posted "Mexico, Baja California and Baja California Sur Civil Registrations 1860-1934" page?

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Hola Claudia, fui a ver esta p[agina y me aparece en blanco también ya la reporté a Family search.

Jorge Elias
Miami, FL

Anyone having problems with/or unable to browse images for Jalisco's churches at FamilySearch.org?

I've been trying to browse images for Jalisco churches, but I'm only getting a "blank" page with a FamilySearch.org heading/Index. Is the site under maintenance?

Thanks,
Roberto Hdez

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Comment

Hola Sergio,

Those are the civil records.

The church records are at
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Armando

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:26 PM, wrote:

> https://www.familysearch.org/**search/image/show#uri=https%**
> 3A//api.familysearch.org/**records/collection/1918187/**waypoints
>
> Sergio Gutierrez

Comment

i contacted family search and they said you need to change the browser to google chrome or mozilla

Comment

I was about to cry thinking I had to download a new browser, but I just tried accessing various Family Search images in Jalisco and I had no trouble. I have an old laptop with XP and Internet Explorer 8 browser. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: irbaca@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:17:18 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] digitized films
>
> Irma Baca i contacted family search and they said you need to change the browser to google chrome or mozilla

Comment

Do not upgrade your explorer!! the new one socks!! thats the reason we all
need to use chrome or firefox!!!, I stop using the explorer 9 after I had
problems with my bank page.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:

>
> I was about to cry thinking I had to download a new browser, but I just
> tried accessing various Family Search images in Jalisco and I had no
> trouble. I have an old laptop with XP and Internet Explorer 8 browser.
> Keeping my fingers crossed.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: irbaca@gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:17:18 -0700
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] digitized films
> >
> > Irma Baca i contacted family search and they said you need to change the
> browser to google chrome or mozilla
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
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The manufacturer of my old laptop told me that with my XP I could only download IE8 so that is what I have. I had been having trouble with IE6. They told me that IE9 works good only with Windows Vista.

Emilie

> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:59:27 -0500
> From: pattyharo@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] digitized films
>
> Do not upgrade your explorer!! the new one socks!! thats the reason we all
> need to use chrome or firefox!!!, I stop using the explorer 9 after I had
> problems with my bank page.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
>
> >
> > I was about to cry thinking I had to download a new browser, but I just
> > tried accessing various Family Search images in Jalisco and I had no
> > trouble. I have an old laptop with XP and Internet Explorer 8 browser.
> > Keeping my fingers crossed.
> >
> > Emilie
> > Port Orchard, WA
> >
> >
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > From: irbaca@gmail.com
> > > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:17:18 -0700
> > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] digitized films
> > >
> > > Irma Baca i contacted family search and they said you need to change the
> > browser to google chrome or mozilla
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> >
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Comment

Robert,
I've been having the same type of problems, you think you've gone to the next page and the screen goes blank and microsoft has a message saying problems with family search, not responding.

Alicia
San Jose, ca
From: "ROHernandez@safrdig.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:07 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Anyone having problems with/or unable to browse images for Jalisco's churches at FamilySearch.org?

I've been trying to browse images for Jalisco churches, but I'm only getting a "blank" page with a FamilySearch.org heading/Index.  Is the site under maintenance?

Thanks,
Roberto Hdez

Comment

Roberto

It's back up and running. I noticed a lot of new record collections (US civil war files) were posted today; that might be the cause of the problem.

On a related issue, I sometimes get the "image unavailable" message. If I wait a few moments, or try to access the record from a different starting point (back arrow vs forward arrow) it usually comes up.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Comment

Thanks George,

I just tried to browse the images a few moments ago, and I'm still unable to access them. As a matter of fact, I'm not even getting/seeing the "list" to the Jalisco towns/churches. Must be all the "up-dating", I'll wait & try later.

Thanks again,
Roberto Hdez

Comment

Roberto

I tried again (its about 5:55 PM), and it is working.

I'm running Mozilla Firefox, on a PC. The site does work a little differently than it did, so some changes to the system have been made.

I also tried it with IE, on the same machine, and it is working there also.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Comment

George,
 
That was usually the case but last night it wasn't working. After viewing just a few pages it would time out as I moved to the next page and remain blank. I'd have to close the browser and re-load and again, just a few pages if any would come up and the same thing would occur.
 
Guess we just have to be patient with all the changes that are now in-process.
 
Thanks again for your help,
Alicia

From: "gpf13@aol.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jalisco church records

Roberto

It's back up and running. I noticed a lot of new record collections (US civil war files) were posted today; that might be the cause of the problem.

On a related issue, I sometimes get the "image unavailable" message. If I wait a few moments, or try to access the record from a different starting point (back arrow vs forward arrow) it usually comes up.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Nuestro Ranchos Film searches

I clicked on Films for Colotlan, Jalisco baptism records for 1859 and THREE consecutive times I was redirected to either the Family Search Pilot search or Joseph Puentes' member files!

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Comment

josecarlos1944@hotmail.com wrote:
> I clicked on Films for Colotlan, Jalisco baptism records for 1859 and
THREE consecutive times I was redirected to either the Family Search
Pilot search or Joseph Puentes' member files! What's going on???

The reason you went to my page is because you clicked link under the
heading "Borrower" (which was me in that case). You should click on
"IGI" link under the heading "Indicies" and if you're not wanting the
newer version then you can scroll down to the bottom of the page and
click on the "Use the previous version of FamilySearch.org" link and
then go to "search records" and then to the "IGI" option on the left
side of the page and then manually enter your batch number and surname
you seek

joseph

======================

Joseph Puentes
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http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Comment

I get it now. No more old-type IGIs. Now it's LDS Family Search of that film number. Hope I get used to it.

Jose Carlos de Leon

Comment

I can still get into the old IGI search. A screen comes up saying that you cannot open it or something, but when I refresh my browser, the IGI search screens appear.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:32:50 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Film Searches
>
>
> I get it now. No more old-type IGIs. Now it's LDS Family Search of that film number. Hope I get used to it.
>
>
>
> Jose Carlos de Leon

NUEVO PROGRAMA 'IGI'

ESTE DIA 5 DE SEPTIEMBRE 2011 SIENDO LAS 13.00 HORAS

TESTIFICO QUE LAS ENTRADAS EN EL NUEVO PROGRAMA ESTAN LLENAS DE ERRORES

calvillo, aguascalienes

I hope someone can help me, I have reached a dead end. In what town can I find records of people living in Tepesalilla, Baqueria, Huejucar and Ojocaliente, Aguascalientes, in 1700 t0 1750?

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My mother's family were from Aguascalientes and (the valley of Huejucar). This area I learned was made up of not only Calvillo, but also other places like Tabasco, Jalpa and other nearby towns. The people who began populating this area heavily in the mid 1700s came from all over the area, most notably: Aguascalientes, Nochistlan, Teocaltiche, Juchipila, Villanueva, Tlatenango, El Tuel, Moyahua, etc. This area is so sticky there is bound to be trial and error.

What lines do you have? We may be related.

Regards,

Daniel Méndez Camino

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i am researching a velasco line of francisco velasco and antonia bedoya, they started having children in 1760. i believe they were related to joseph belasco and maria de san juan esparza. i have tried some of the areas you mentioned and some i have not so i appreciate your input. when i first joined my initial family file was misplaced for about a year. but my info is under irma velasco if you would like to see it. i have alot of other names but have not sent in a current gedcom thank you for your help.

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Daniel,
I have the same question--what church records should one look for pre-1750 information? People from Jalpa, Tabasco, Calvillo moved in-and-out of ranchos/pueblos/villas/ciudades quite frequently. My father tells me that people in La Villita would go looking for work around Calvillo. He never wondered why they went there instead of other places, but I told him that probably this was because one his of great-grandfathers is from around Calvilo.

Would you recommend looking in all of the churches in Aguascalientes city? Or is there a particular church different people would go to depending on their social-economic status, rural/urban dwellers, labradores/land owneres, etc?

I also have the same question for Tabasco--there are no records before 1747. What was the designated church for Tabasco before this time?

Thanks,
Arturo

Comment

Based on my own experience, I would really say it depends. The area of Tabasco, Jalpa, Huanusco, people would move in and out. There was a huge tendancy to go to Calvillo or come from Calvillo. Before 1772, Calvillo was under the jurisdiction of Aguascalientes, until it became it own parish. There were people from all over, Tlatenango, Villanueva, Colotlan, Teocaltiche, Juchipila, Nochistlan, Calvillo. Any of these places would be a good bet. Try to find any clues where your oldest ancestor was from. If he was married say 1760 and it says he was from Teocaltiche, but married in Tabasco, then Teocaltiche would be a good start. The borders constantly changed and thus it makes things a bit more difficult. Especially when new parishes were created, annexed, or combined or when jurisdictions changed.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Other resources

As someone new to geneology I wish to thank all who have contributed to my education at Nuestros Ranchos. I have been very successful in searching lines throughout Jalisco.

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Thank you Jaime Alvarado for your assistance. Your suggestion is a good one--so I'll put it to the group.I am researching in Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco. I am searching for the marriage of Juan Joseph Arechiga and Maria Olaya Oliveros (Esp.) All of their, at least 10, children were baptised in Tenamaxtlan; the first in 1772. They lived in Rancho Temascal. I'm assuming the marriage took place abt. 1771. I have found who I believe are the parents of Juan Joseph and his siblings in Cocula, Jalisco (Juan Antonio Arechiga and Cathalina Gomez) but I can't confirm it. For Tenamaxtlan the marriages start in 1781. I've checked the Informaccion Matrimonial in 1749-1785 and 1759-1802, but they only seem to list Indios and Mulato Libres. I also checked in Cocula's marriages for around that time with the same results.I've checked all of the baptisms and marriages for the children for possible aunts and uncles as Padrinos with no results. I was also unable tolocate the Baptism for son, J
oseph Cipriano Arechiga, 15 Oct. 1772, in Tenamaxtlan; even though I have the indexed information. If anyone has any ideas of where to look your help is greatly welcomed and appreciated.Thank you,Deedra Coronacoronaarechiga

Comment

Deedra,
One of the records you are looking for can be found at: https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…. That corresponds to image 334 to baptisms for 1773 for the church of Sagrado Corazon, Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco. However, the record for Joseph Cipriano Arechiga Olvera actually reads October 15 1772 (very likely a clerical error) and that is why it was indexed into LDS Family Search, and the reason you could not find it among 1772 records.

Sincerely

Jaime

Comment

A good idea, Armando.
------Original Message------
From: Armando
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
ReplyTo: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sources
Sent: Sep 2, 2011 5:28 PM

The address of the website, URL, of each document at FamilySearch can be
copied and pasted into the the messages. Each page has it's own specific
address. It's makes it much easier for those that want to help.

Armando

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:57 PM, wrote:

> Its Leon Guanajuato Sagrario 1672. Page 9 on familysearch.orgMatrimonios..
> Amalia Hernandez Arias
>

Comment

Dear Deedra,
In some cases records were lost, others may have not been filmed, yet a great number may simply be misplaced, or located in the original parish, which may not be the same as the church you are looking for. For instance, records for a particular town, may have been held originally in a larger town, up until the time when the local congregation was large enough to justify a new parish. In order for the members of NR to provide you with more help, please give the specifics of the towns and timeframe that you are looking for. There is always the possibility that someone may have encountered (and solved) the same problem.

Sincerely

Jaime Alvarado

Comment

If you found the info listed in familysearch, the info is there, maybe if
you look for the film number in the record and then look for the specific
film....

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Jaime R. Alvarado wrote:

> Dear Deedra,
> In some cases records were lost, others may have not been filmed, yet a
> great number may simply be misplaced, or located in the original parish,
> which may not be the same as the church you are looking for. For instance,
> records for a particular town, may have been held originally in a larger
> town, up until the time when the local congregation was large enough to
> justify a new parish. In order for the members of NR to provide you with
> more help, please give the specifics of the towns and timeframe that you are
> looking for. There is always the possibility that someone may have
> encountered (and solved) the same problem.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Jaime Alvarado

Busco ayuda para comprender una partida de un Registro Bautismal

Hola Foro,

Comments

Comment

La partida dice:

En la Pila Baptismal de este pueblo de Xalostotitlan en diez y nueve de septiembre de mil setecientos seis años baptize y puse los santos oleos a Patricio mulato esclavo hijo de Marcela Tavera esclava de Bernardo Hernandez de Rueda. Fue su madrina Gertrudis de Rueda, doncella española hija de Alonso Hernandez de Rueda y de Catarina Ramirez de Mendoza en la estancia de abajo a quienes adverti la obligación espiritual

Por lo tanto el bautizado fue llamado Patricio, nacio en la Estancia de Abajo hijo de Marcela Tavera que es esclava de Bernardo Hdz de Rueda (no dice el padre). La madrina fue una doncella española. Fue bautizado en Xalostotitlan el 19 de septiembre de 1706 años.

SALUDOS.

Chema

Some Feedback from Family Search

I recently report an error with the title of a Guanajuato digitized film, and received a very nice reply:

From: Support
To: gpf13

Comments

Comment

I too have reported several errors in the titles, such as when it says "Bautismos 1700-1750" when it should say 1700-1780 or something like that. They respond that they will advise their "engineers" of the error.

However, the loss of the better indexing there was on Pilot and IGI is difficult to accept, and that they cannot or will not address.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: gpf13@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:42:05 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Some Feedback from Family Search
>
> I recently report an error with the title of a Guanajuato digitized film, and received a very nice reply:
>
> From: Support
> To: gpf13
> Subject: Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984: error in source listing
> Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:44 am
>
> Dear George Fulton,
>
> Thank you for contacting FamilySearch to report incorrect dates given for our
> collection , Mexico, Guanajuato, Catholic Church Records, 1576-1984, San
> Francisco del Rincón, San Francisco de Asis.
>
> We have reported the error for correction.
>
> We appreciate you for taking the time to supply feedback about your experience
> using our Historical Records collections at FamilySearch.Org. It is due to the
> diligence and caring of persons such as yourself that is helping to make
> FamilySearch a premiere genealogical site.
>
> We invite you to return often as new collections are being added regularly.
>
> Sincerely,
> FamilySearch
>

Comment

George,

Thank you for pointing out this use of the FEEDBACK feature of FamilySearch. I have run across many errors in titles of records, such as Confirmaciones which were really Matrimonios. I will now do my part to help get the database cleaned up by reporting these mislabels.

Omar Codina

In reply to by omar.codina

Comment

I missed the previous communications. What is the feedback feature of Family Search?

> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: omar_codina@msn.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:35:46 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Feedback
>
> George,
>
> Thank you for pointing out this use of the FEEDBACK feature of FamilySearch. I have run across many errors in titles of records, such as Confirmaciones which were really Matrimonios. I will now do my part to help get the database cleaned up by reporting these mislabels.
>
> Omar Codina

In reply to by Miguel Gutierr…

Comment

"Feedback" is a brown "button" on the left side of the Record Search screens.

The purpose is for the user to give any feedback that they deem appropriate to improve the site. "Appropriate" is certainly at the user's discretion, but "appropriate" feedback, in my opinion, would be something that is relevant to the screen (or page) being viewed.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Añadir Films de Bautismos de Teocalitiche

Los films de bautismos de Teocalitiche han sido de mucho ayuda. ¿Es posible poder añadir los films de bautismos empezando con el año 1639 hasta el año 1774?

Comments

Comment

Hola Javier.

Los films ya estan en linea y son los primeros seis.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Armando

2011/8/23

> Los films de bautismos de Teocalitiche han sido de mucho ayuda. ¿Es posible
> poder añadir los films de bautismos empezando con el año 1639 hasta el año
> 1774? Yo no tenía la esperanza de llegar tan atras en el pasado. Pero ya que
> estoy allí, quisiera continuar. Verdaderamente agradezco mucho que estos
> films estan aqui para nuestro uso. He logrado bastante con la ayuda de
> Nuestros Ranchos.
>
> ¡Gracias Nuestros Ranchos!
>
> Sinceramente,
>
> Javier Romero

Comment

Hola Armando.

Gracias por darme el enlace a los films de los libros de bautismos de Teocaltiche. Lo agradezco mucho. ¿Podrías darme el enlace a los films IGI de esos mismos libros, como los que están incluidos en el sitio de Nuestros Ranchos? ¿Y también los films IGI de los primeros libros que faltan para Jalostotitlán y San Juan de los Lagos? Gracias.

Javier

Comment

Hola Javier,

Puedo darte los numeros de los films de esos libros que vienen siendo los
siguientes.

Bautismos 1639-1642,1672-1683,1690-1711 FHL INTL Film 634015 Bautismos
1708-1711,1715-1722 FHL INTL Film 634016 Bautismos 1725-1733 FHL INTL
Film 634017
Bautismos 1734-1743 FHL INTL Film 634018 Bautismos 1746-1754 FHL
INTL Film 634019
Bautismos 1757-1765 FHL INTL Film 634020 Bautismos 1765-1774 FHL
INTL Film 634021

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatal…

Saludos,
Armando

2011/8/23

> Javier Romero
>
> Hola Armando.
>
> Gracias por darme el enlace a los films de los libros de bautismos de
> Teocaltiche. Lo agradezco mucho. Podrías darme el enlace a los films IGI de
> esos mismos libros, como los que estan incluído en el sitio de Nuestros
> Ranchos?
>
> Sinceramente,
>
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Comment

Hola Armando,

Quiero pedirte disculpa por hacerte gastar su tiempo valioso con mi pregunta de los Films IGI, a causa de mi confusión con el nombre del archivo. En el sitio de Nuestros Ranchos, www.nuestrosranchos.org, y no en otro sitio, debajo de la página “Films,” hay varios enlaces titulados “IGI” o “VRI.” Cuando uno hace clíc sobre estos enlaces, llega uno a otra página donde se encuentra una lista de los nombres de las personas que se encuentran en los libros de Bautismos, Defunciones, Información Matrimoniales y Matrimonios. Estos índices son lo que yo estoy buscando para los primeros libros que existen para los pueblos de Teocaltiche, Jalostotitlán, San Juan de los Lagos y ahora, Villa Hidalgo. Ojala me perdonas y logro a explicar mi pregunta si existen los índices para los libros que faltan un “IGI” o “VRI.”

Agradezco bastantísimo la existencia de Nuestros Ranchos por ayudar en la búsqueda de mi árbol genealógico. Me concierne la perdida de Family Search, pero si hay un substituto comparable o mejor, sería fantástico. Nadie ha mencionado la fecha de cuando piensan cerrar el sitio de Family Search. Espero que no sea pronto.

Javier Romero

Comment

Javier,

No van a cerar Family Search, solamente los indices debajo de Pilot Family Search. El IGI Family Search todavia existe. Hay una New Family Search, y tienes que registrarte con password para sacar mas informacion de los indices nuevos. Se perdieron los indices de antes.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: grizzmex@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:46:19 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Añadir Films de
>
> Hola Armando,
>
> Quiero pedirte disculpa por hacerte gastar su tiempo valioso con mi pregunta de los Films IGI, a causa de mi confusión con el nombre del archivo. En el sitio de Nuestros Ranchos, www.nuestrosranchos.org, y no en otro sitio, debajo de la página “Films,” hay varios enlaces titulados “IGI” o “VRI.” Cuando uno hace clíc sobre estos enlaces, llega uno a otra página donde se encuentra una lista de los nombres de las personas que se encuentran en los libros de Bautismos, Defunciones, Información Matrimoniales y Matrimonios. Estos índices son lo que yo estoy buscando para los primeros libros que existen para los pueblos de Teocaltiche, Jalostotitlán, San Juan de los Lagos y ahora, Villa Hidalgo. Ojala me perdonas y logro a explicar mi pregunta si existen los índices para los libros que faltan un “IGI” o “VRI.”
>
> Agradezco bastantísimo la existencia de Nuestros Ranchos por ayudar en la búsqueda de mi árbol genealógico. Me concierne la perdida de Family Search, pero si hay un substituto comparable o mejor, sería fantástico. Nadie ha mencionado la fecha de cuando piensan cerrar el sitio de Family Search. Espero que no sea pronto.
>
>
> Javier Romero

Comment

Hola Javier,

Nuestros Ranchos es el sitio con el indice mas completo que relaciona los
IGI y VRI números con los números de microfilmes y los nombres de los
pueblos aunque faltan algunos IGI. No tengo idea quien lo había hecho pero
parece que ya no tienen tiempo de añadir los faltantes. Pero hay otra forma
de hacer lo que quieres y explicaré como.

Ya quitaron Pilot pero nunca quitarán FamilySearch. En el mismo FamilySearch
puedes hacer una búsqueda por numero de Batch (IGI) si ya lo tienes en
https://www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records Para obtenerlo tendrás
que hacer una búsqueda llenando los campos de fecha y lugar, pero obviamente
sin el batch, que te dará resultados de varias personas. Al hacer clic en el
nombre de uno de ellos te dará numero de Indexing Project (Batch) Number.
Ese el numero de IGI o VRI que buscabas. Tendrás que hacer eso pera cada año
que buscas el IGI. Ya teniendo el IGI podrás hacer una búsqueda con el IGI
en https://www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records o en la siguiente
página
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/sea…
es la búsqueda que se hacia desde la página de NuestrosRanchos para
IGI.

Me da curiosidad saber la razón que quieres hacer la búsqueda por IGI en vez
de nombre, fecha, y lugar. Con ese resultado se puede obtener el numero del
film y sabiendo ese numero sabe uno cual libro es que se encuentra tal
registro y con el nombre del libro se puede encontrar el registro en las
imágenes en linea.

Este es mi método de buscar registros.
1. Buscar persona en https://www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records y
apuntar numero del libro
2. Buscar nombre de libro por numero de film
https://www.familysearch.org/#form=catalog&catSearchType=film_number
3. Buscar imagen por nombre de libro.

Armando

2011/8/26

> Hola Armando,
>
> Quiero pedirte disculpa por hacerte gastar su tiempo valioso con mi
> pregunta de los Films IGI, a causa de mi confusión con el nombre del
> archivo. En el sitio de Nuestros Ranchos, www.nuestrosranchos.org, y no en
> otro sitio, debajo de la página “Films,” hay varios enlaces titulados “IGI”
> o “VRI.” Cuando uno hace clíc sobre estos enlaces, llega uno a otra página
> donde se encuentra una lista de los nombres de las personas que se
> encuentran en los libros de Bautismos, Defunciones, Información
> Matrimoniales y Matrimonios. Estos índices son lo que yo estoy buscando para
> los primeros libros que existen para los pueblos de Teocaltiche,
> Jalostotitlán, San Juan de los Lagos y ahora, Villa Hidalgo. Ojala me
> perdonas y logro a explicar mi pregunta si existen los índices para los
> libros que faltan un “IGI” o “VRI.”
> Agradezco bastantísimo la existencia de Nuestros Ranchos por ayudar en la
> búsqueda de mi árbol genealógico. Me concierne la perdida de Family Search,
> pero si hay un substituto comparable o mejor, sería fantástico. Nadie ha
> mencionado la fecha de cuando piensan cerrar el sitio de Family Search.
> Espero que no sea pronto.
>
> Javier Romero
>

Comment

Hola Armando,

Gracias por una respuesta informativa y servicial.

He utilizado su método de buscar los números de IGI con mucho eficaz.

La razón por la cual que me gusta usar los índices es porque muy raras veces tengo éxito buscando datos entrando los nombres, lugares y fechas exactas en el sitio, Family Search. Tengo sesiones más productivas entrando datos simples y generales, y luego usando los filtros. Cuando uno no conoce sus ancestros, sus nombres o lugares de nacimiento y residencia varean con cada documento que se encuentra. A veces es más seguro usar un índice y encontrar a parientes que uno sabe viene del pueblo y fecha que uno busca. Espero que mi intento a satisfacer su curiosidad le haya servido.

Gracias.

Javier

Comment

Hola Foro,

Del departamento de Apoyo de Family Search, me llegó la respuesta a cómo encontrar los números de IGI de México y de todo el mundo. Me dieron dos enlaces donde puede uno encontrarlos para incorporarlos uno en su búsqueda genealógica. Incluido esta una página en cómo usarlos. Aquí los listo para el foro:

1- https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/IGI_Batch_Numbers_for_Latin_American_C…
This is the research wiki site.

2 - http://www.pricegen.com/resources/globalbatchnumbers.htm Scroll down and click on Mexico. Scroll down on the next page – there are more in the blog area.

Una contribución pequeña para hacer nuestras vidas mas fácil.

Javier Romero

Comment

Hola Javier,

Buscando los números IGI la página
http://www.pricegen.com/resources/globalbatchnumbers.htm me lleva a
http://mexicoigibatchnumbers.wetpaint.com/page/Jalisco y esa página dice que
puedo encontrar mas números batch en http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/ Eso
significa que Nuestros Ranchos es el sitio que contiene la mejor base de
datos de numeros IGI o batch. ¿Has encontrado números de batch en otra
página que no has encontrado en NR?

Saludos,
Armando

2011/8/31

> Hola Foro,
>
> Del departamento de Apoyo de Family Search, me llegó la respuesta a cómo
> encontrar los números de IGI de México y de todo el mundo. Me dieron dos
> enlaces donde puede uno encontrarlos para incorporarlos uno en su búsqueda
> genealógica. Incluido esta una página en cómo usarlos. Aquí los listo para
> el foro:
>
> 1- https://wiki.familysearch.org/**en/IGI_Batch_Numbers_for_**
> Latin_American_Countries
> This is the research wiki site.
> 2 - http://www.pricegen.com/**resources/globalbatchnumbers.**htm Scroll down and click on Mexico. Scroll down on the next page – there are
> more in the blog area.
>
> Una contribución pequeña para hacer nuestras vidas mas fácil.
>
> Javier Romero
>

Zacatecas pilot program

Comments

Comment

Linda,

Lamentably they did away with the Pilot program on August 23rd. You can still get into the old Family Search IGI, but you may have to refresh your browser for it to open up.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: longsjourney@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:49:53 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Zacatecas pilot program
>
>
> I haven't research in Zacatecas for abt 3 weeks and found today I could not get into the online pilot program. Has the site changed address's? Is there a new way to get into it or is it gone??? I had no trouble accessing Jalisco.
> any help appreciated
> Linda in California for 2 weeks

Comment

Hello Linda,

Is this what you are looking for?
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Armando

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM, wrote:

>
> I haven't research in Zacatecas for abt 3 weeks and found today I could not
> get into the online pilot program. Has the site changed address's? Is
> there a new way to get into it or is it gone??? I had no trouble accessing
> Jalisco.
> any help appreciated
> Linda in California for 2 weeks

Comment

Armando, thank you, this works! 
Emily try this one.. so glad to have Zacatecas back even if its only for a while
thank you again.
Linda

From: Armando
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Zacatecas pilot program

Hello Linda,

Is this what you are looking for?
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.fa…

Armando

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM, wrote:

>
> I haven't research in Zacatecas for abt 3 weeks and found today I could not
> get into the online pilot program.  Has the site changed address's?  Is
> there a new way to get into it or is it gone???  I had no trouble accessing
> Jalisco.
> any help appreciated
> Linda in California for 2 weeks

Comment

I found Zacatecas just now, Linda, in Familysearch.org. But it is not the
"pilot" program, which as you know was going away.

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of
longsjourney@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:50 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Zacatecas pilot program

I haven't research in Zacatecas for abt 3 weeks and found today I could not
get into the online pilot program. Has the site changed address's? Is
there a new way to get into it or is it gone??? I had no trouble accessing
Jalisco.
any help appreciated
Linda in California for 2 weeks

Thomas Alba Edison website

Friday, Sep 26, 2008

Dear Researches--

For those who can read English, a nice biography can be had of Thomas A. Edison at http://www.thomasedison.com/biography.html.

His connection to San Diego, where I live, is that he put in the electrical lighting at the famous Hotel Del Coronado, or so I have heard.

Comments

Comment

It seems to me that we have discussed Tom a good bit. He is resting
peacefully (I hope) so maybe we can let him rest for awhile, what do you
think? But if someone finds a good baptism record or tantalizing piece
of factual information showing evidence to old Tom's Mexican roots well
please bring it on. Why don't we give him a bit of a rest for now or
possibly take it to private email. As always I'm not telling folks what
to do just thinking that this might be best for all.

Hemos hablado de Tomas un poco ya. El esta descansando (Ojala que si)
que piensan de que lo dejamos descansar por un rato? Pero si alguien
tiene un acto de baptismo o un acto deliciosio de informacion factual
ensenyando preva de Tomas' conexcion a Mejico bueno mandalo al grupo
para que todos pueden verlo. Porque no horita dejamos a Tomas un
descanso o si quieren lleva la conversacion a correo electronicos
privados. No estoy diciendo que tienen que hacer esto nomas que pienso
que es bueno para todos.

joseph

====================

Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Comment

Joseph, I agree with you.
I want to mention to all the group(todos los primos) that was great all the
real information and stories that we interchange.
I am personally interested to found something else.
I didn´t found nothing in the book Retoños de España en Nueva Galicia, in
the Alba section.
We need to found facts and dates, If somebody get something, please let us
know.
Best regards
Juan Cristóbal Villalobos Lomelín, San Luis Potosí, Mx.
jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx

-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Joseph
Puentes
Enviado el: Viernes, 26 de Septiembre de 2008 07:03 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

It seems to me that we have discussed Tom a good bit. He is resting
peacefully (I hope) so maybe we can let him rest for awhile, what do you
think? But if someone finds a good baptism record or tantalizing piece
of factual information showing evidence to old Tom's Mexican roots well
please bring it on. Why don't we give him a bit of a rest for now or
possibly take it to private email. As always I'm not telling folks what
to do just thinking that this might be best for all.

Hemos hablado de Tomas un poco ya. El esta descansando (Ojala que si)
que piensan de que lo dejamos descansar por un rato? Pero si alguien
tiene un acto de baptismo o un acto deliciosio de informacion factual
ensenyando preva de Tomas' conexcion a Mejico bueno mandalo al grupo
para que todos pueden verlo. Porque no horita dejamos a Tomas un
descanso o si quieren lleva la conversacion a correo electronicos
privados. No estoy diciendo que tienen que hacer esto nomas que pienso
que es bueno para todos.

joseph

====================

Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Comment

Patricia, I couldn't open the website. Maybe it's due to the weather here? Anyway, I'll be home late on Tuesday and hope to see you soon after. I do have an appointment Wednesday at the Temple. I'll let you know how it goes.

See you soon. Esther

Friday, Sep 26, 2008

Dear Researches--

For those who can read English, a nice biography can be had of Thomas A. Edison
at http://www.thomasedison.com/biography.html.

His connection to San Diego, where I live, is that he put in the electrical
lighting at the famous Hotel Del Coronado, or so I have heard.

I suspect that Thomas Edison was such a wonderful scientist that we would all
like to claim him as one of our own countrymen. For myself, I would like to
say he was Canadian but that would not be true. However, there is another whom
I can claim. Henry Woodward, a medical student of Toronto, Ontario, Canada and
his friend Matthew Evans invented the light bulb and not Edison. You can read
more about it at
http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Ontario/first_electric_light_bulb.htm

Best wishes to all.

Sincerely,
Patricia Burton
AKA Patricia Diane Godinez
San Diego, Ca.

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
wrote:

> From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:50 PM
> HOLA OTRA VEZ EMILIE
>
> YO NO DIJO QUE ASI SEA NOMAS COMPARTO LO QUE OI DE NINO EN
> LA ESCUELA NO TIENE NADA DE MALO SUPONER. YO SE QUE LO MAS
> PROBLABLE ES QUE NO SEA CIERTO PERO UNO NUNCA SABE LA VIDA
> NOS DA SORPRESAS SIEMPRE HAY UNA POSIBILIDAD, NO CREES. AL
> FINAL DE CUENTAS ES UNA FANTASIA COMO CASI TODO EN LA VIDA.
>
> SALUDOS.
>
> LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ
>
> -------------- Original message from "Emilie
> Garcia" :
> --------------
>
>
> > Hay, Luis,
> > No puede ser. El nombre del inventor, su apellido, fue
> Edison Elliott, Thomas Alva fue el nombre cristiano
> baptizado, como tu eres Luis Miguel. El inventor no era
> Alba. Los descendientes de el inventor saben donde y cuando
> nacio y donde vivia despues. Tus monjitas son como los demas
> en mexico como en coahuila y zacatecas que creen que el
> apellido era Alba, pero estan equivocados como te conte
> antes. No era de ningun linea Alba o Alva. Thomas Edison
> estaba en Ohio
> > y Michigan desde 1847. De casado vivia en New Jersey y
> Florida.
> >
> > Emilie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> >
> >
> > HOLA LETY ES MUY PROBLABLE QUE SEA CIERTO YO FUI AL
> COLEGIO DE MONJITAS EN SAN MIGUEL Y UNA DE ELLAS ERA DE SAN
> JUAN Y ELLA ESTABA CONVENCIDA DE QUE TOMAS ERA DE SAN
> > JUAN DE LAS FAMILIAS DE ALBA. Y NO ME LO PLATICO UNA
> VEZ SINO MUCHAS.
> > NO VEO PORQUE NO Y LO QUE DICES DE EL PARECIDO CON TU
> PAPA LO CREO PORQUE
> > TAMBIEN ME RECUERDA MUCHO A MI ABUELO (POR PATE DE MI
> PAPA) EN TODOS LOS
> > ASPECTOS MI ABUELO TENIA LA MISMA FISINOMIA LA MISMA
> CARA POSIBLEMENTE TENIAN
> > ALGUNA RELACION SI ES QUE ES CIERTO QUE TOMAS ALBA ERA
> DE JALISCO.
> > SALUDOS
> > LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
> > -------------- Original message from leticia reynoso
> > >: --------------
> >
> >
> > > Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su
> mama.> From:
> > siriuslr@hotmail.com> To:
> > research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25
> > Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros
> Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > >
> > <> Edison saco el Alva... pues sus supuestos
> hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta
> > acta
> > > de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una foto de
> mi papa y una de Thomas
> > Alva
> > > Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver...en
> fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos
> > Lety
> > > Reynoso>
> _________________________________________________________________>
>
> > > Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate hasta
> ¡Un Auto! >
> > >
> > http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx&gt; x>>

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Friday, Sep 26, 2008

Dear Esther--

Try again. I did using what is below and it worked for me. Glad you are coming back to California from your nice long trip.

Sincerely,
Diane G.

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Esther wrote:

> From: Esther
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison website
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:07 PM
> Patricia, I couldn't open the website. Maybe it's
> due to the weather here? Anyway, I'll be home late on
> Tuesday and hope to see you soon after. I do have an
> appointment Wednesday at the Temple. I'll let you know
> how it goes.
>
> See you soon. Esther
>
>
> Friday, Sep 26, 2008
>
> Dear Researches--
>
> For those who can read English, a nice biography can be had
> of Thomas A. Edison
> at http://www.thomasedison.com/biography.html.
>
> His connection to San Diego, where I live, is that he put
> in the electrical
> lighting at the famous Hotel Del Coronado, or so I have
> heard.
>
> I suspect that Thomas Edison was such a wonderful scientist
> that we would all
> like to claim him as one of our own countrymen. For
> myself, I would like to
> say he was Canadian but that would not be true. However,
> there is another whom
> I can claim. Henry Woodward, a medical student of Toronto,
> Ontario, Canada and
> his friend Matthew Evans invented the light bulb and not
> Edison. You can read
> more about it at
> http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Ontario/first_electric_light_bulb.htm
>
> Best wishes to all.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patricia Burton
> AKA Patricia Diane Godinez
> San Diego, Ca.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
>
> wrote:
>
> > From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
>
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:50 PM
> > HOLA OTRA VEZ EMILIE
> >
> > YO NO DIJO QUE ASI SEA NOMAS COMPARTO LO QUE OI DE
> NINO EN
> > LA ESCUELA NO TIENE NADA DE MALO SUPONER. YO SE QUE LO
> MAS
> > PROBLABLE ES QUE NO SEA CIERTO PERO UNO NUNCA SABE LA
> VIDA
> > NOS DA SORPRESAS SIEMPRE HAY UNA POSIBILIDAD, NO
> CREES. AL
> > FINAL DE CUENTAS ES UNA FANTASIA COMO CASI TODO EN LA
> VIDA.
> >
> > SALUDOS.
> >
> > LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ
> >
> > -------------- Original message from "Emilie
> > Garcia" :
> > --------------
> >
> >
> > > Hay, Luis,
> > > No puede ser. El nombre del inventor, su
> apellido, fue
> > Edison Elliott, Thomas Alva fue el nombre cristiano
> > baptizado, como tu eres Luis Miguel. El inventor no
> era
> > Alba. Los descendientes de el inventor saben donde y
> cuando
> > nacio y donde vivia despues. Tus monjitas son como los
> demas
> > en mexico como en coahuila y zacatecas que creen que
> el
> > apellido era Alba, pero estan equivocados como te
> conte
> > antes. No era de ningun linea Alba o Alva. Thomas
> Edison
> > estaba en Ohio
> > > y Michigan desde 1847. De casado vivia en New
> Jersey y
> > Florida.
> > >
> > > Emilie
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba
> Edison
> > >
> > >
> > > HOLA LETY ES MUY PROBLABLE QUE SEA CIERTO YO FUI
> AL
> > COLEGIO DE MONJITAS EN SAN MIGUEL Y UNA DE ELLAS ERA
> DE SAN
> > JUAN Y ELLA ESTABA CONVENCIDA DE QUE TOMAS ERA DE SAN
> > > JUAN DE LAS FAMILIAS DE ALBA. Y NO ME LO PLATICO
> UNA
> > VEZ SINO MUCHAS.
> > > NO VEO PORQUE NO Y LO QUE DICES DE EL PARECIDO
> CON TU
> > PAPA LO CREO PORQUE
> > > TAMBIEN ME RECUERDA MUCHO A MI ABUELO (POR PATE
> DE MI
> > PAPA) EN TODOS LOS
> > > ASPECTOS MI ABUELO TENIA LA MISMA FISINOMIA LA
> MISMA
> > CARA POSIBLEMENTE TENIAN
> > > ALGUNA RELACION SI ES QUE ES CIERTO QUE TOMAS
> ALBA ERA
> > DE JALISCO.
> > > SALUDOS
> > > LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
> > > -------------- Original message from leticia
> reynoso
> > > >: --------------
> > >
> > >
> > > > Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su
> > mama.> From:
> > > siriuslr@hotmail.com> To:
> > > research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25
> > > Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re:
> [Nuestros
> > Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > >
> > > <> Edison saco el Alva... pues sus
> supuestos
> > hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta
> > > acta
> > > > de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una
> foto de
> > mi papa y una de Thomas
> > > Alva
> > > > Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver...en
> > fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos
> > > Lety
> > > > Reynoso>
> >
> _________________________________________________________________>
> >
> > > > Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate
> hasta
> > ¡Un Auto! >
> > > >
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Comanja, Jalisco

Does anyone know what church records I would check for this area? I found a possible link to my Villalpandos that died in Leon but was a vecino de Comanxa.

Amalia Hernandez-Arias

Comments

Comment

hay un comanjilla en Guanajuato, no estará cerca de ahi??, esta muy cerca de
Leon

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:08 AM, wrote:

> Does anyone know what church records I would check for this area? I found a
> possible link to my Villalpandos that died in Leon but was a vecino de
> Comanxa.
> Amalia Hernandez-Arias

Comment

Oh its Comanja de Corona, Jalisco, cerca de Leon, a mining town..but the records dont start till later...Thank you.
Amalia Hernandez Arias

Help requested with handwritting on Guanajuato record

I have found what may be a clue however I need help in interpreting handwritting on document found in Guanajuato, Mx, San Miguel de Allende, San Miguel Arcangel, 1790-1810, image 222 of 579 for Ma Viz

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Comment

thank you for your reply. would you know where records for this place are found (which church). I assume they are found at San Miguel de Allende. Anita

> From: angelina@markleweb.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Help requested with handwritting on Guanajuatorecord
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 11:00 AM
> Anita,
>
> It looks like an abbreviation for Agustin Gonzalez. Which,
> according to Google Maps, is an actual place in Guanajuato,
> Mexico.
>
> -Angelina-
>
>

Where is Rancho La Taberna & La Huerta de Jesus

Can someone tell me where I would look for records for La Taberna and La Huerta de Jesus. I was thinking to look in Zapotiltic for Rancho La Taberna and La Huerta for the latter one.

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Deedra Corona
There is a Rancho La Taberna near Union de Tula. The problem is that the files are not indexed. Nearly all of the people living there now have the last name of Perez. Good Luck

Comment

Hi Ani:

I think you're correct in the location of both places. My greatgrandfather was from La Huerta, Jalisco and people there commonly called it "La Huerta de Jesús María".
In my own experience, when you look back for records before the 1900's, it is very common to find the baptisms, marriages, etc. in Purificación or Autlán that are near from there.

Comment

Thank you Salvador for replying. I really appreciate it. I guess I'm the only one looking for my husbands family in tomatlan and el tuito. And now some of the baptism/marriages state that is where i need to look next. I'm glad someone knew the area. Now I'll just cross my fingers. :) have a great day!

Anisabel Santamaria

Book: Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes, siglo XVII

Hi fellow researchers,

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George,

It has been edited, such as appearance, couple of grammer issues etc. Overall, the content is the same. The only big change, was that I had to limit the entries to the book to spaniards and some mestizos. This second edition won't include the other castas. As you may know the 1st edition was 50.00 and 600 pages. I had to shorten it to 497 pages so the price would go down and make it available to more people. I think 50.00 was up there, but the size of the book, it had to be. No worries George, no need to purchase a new copy.
I do have an extra copy of the short-lived first ed. This was a "baby stages" copy and would love to give it away for around 25.00, basically what I paid for.

Daniel

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Daniel

Thanks for the info. I confess, I bought the inexpensive electronic version; I printed it and had it bound at Kinko's. It doesn't look as nice as the bound copy, but it works as just as well!

Perhaps my first edition will become a collector's item!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA