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Sanchez-Castellanos

Muy interesante, aprovecho para invitar también a los del Valle de Tlaltenango a que se realicen una prueba, creo que podremos compartir información y destrabar las búsquedas de información que aun no se pueden encontrar por falta de documentos, aunque es muy importante el papelito como algunos lo promueven, también es importante el ADN ya que es una huella imborrable en el tiempo.

Roy,

The marriage record reads as follows:

"Hernando de Torres Espitia con Juana Macias"

"En 11 de enero de 615 años desposó el Padre Juan de Estrada,
Cura y Vicario de esta Villa, a Hernando de Torres Espitia,
natural de México, con Juana Macías natural de Los Gallos,
hija de Felipe Macías, premisas las solemnidades, sien-
do testigos Alonso Peguero y Francisco Macías. Velolos
el Padre Lorenzo Rodríguez de la Vera en Los Gallos a 17 de
septiembre de 1619 años. Padrinos Gaspar Macías
y Mariana de Torres, vecinos de Los Gallos. [firma] Lorenzo Rodríguez."

Only Juana's father Felipe Macías is mentioned in this record. The area known as Los Gallos is just about 15 miles SSE of the city of Aguascalientes, in Jalisco (Cerro de Los Gallos).

Rgds,

BILL FIGUEROA

----- Original Message -----
From: rvr_jr@msn.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marriage record: Hernando de Torres Espitia conJuana Macias - 11 Jan 1615

It took me a long time to find this marriage record in the middle of the Baptism records.
Now, can someone please help me determine the names of their parents?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-50852-3?cc=1502404&w…

Hernando, natural de mer...co (abv.?)con Juana Macias, natural de los gallos (sp?)
hija de Felipe Macias, etc.

Thank you in advance,
Roy

Hi,
I have Francisco Velasco and Maria Ceron married Nov 19, 1636 in Mix1uiahuala, Hidalgo, Mexico
Church record states that Francisco is a "national de la ciudad de Sevilla" His parents are listed as Antonio de Velasco and Maria de Arce I suppose they are from Sevilla also.

Maria Ceron's parents are listed as Juan Ceron And Agustina Perez (both deceased )

Their children I have are:
Juan Velasco Ceron Baptized Nov 2, 1636, San Antonio Mixquiahuala, Hidalgo

Francisco Velasco Ceron - Baptized Jan 12, 1638, San Antonio, Mixqiahula
( he married Nicolasa Ruiz de Esparza Nov 19, 1665, Aguascalientes, Ags.

Francisco Velasco is my 9th generation great grandfather

Aurora Romo

The entire link isn't "hot"....if you copy the entire address and paste it in it works.
AJB

I clicked on the link and nothing happens. Are we missing something???

Ann M. Gutierrez

________________________________
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tue, June 4, 2013 7:27:56 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: El Sagrario, Aguascalientes film offline at
FamilySearch?

From: H. Leandro Soria
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 10:47 AM
To: Joseph Puentes
Subject: RE: El Sagrario, Aguascalientes film offline at FamilySearch?

Joseph,

The films corresponding to the parish of La Asunción de María (also known as
El Sagrario) are available online under the city of Aguascalientes. The link
to those images is:
https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysea…
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99K-9XW%3An1858513207%3Fcc%3D1502404

The last change made to Mexico Catholic Church Records collections took
place on February 25th. The old "super-collection" Mexico, Catholic Church
Records was divided by states.

I hope this helps.

H. Leandro Soria

Record Specialist

Collection Operations

Annette

I think at some point the films were re-posted with the proper name of the church: Asuncion de Maria. Some other changes to the Mexico resources were made as well.

Microfilm Film numbers are also now there. If you recorded image numbers from the original posting, you will now find that they are a few images off.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

maybe you went wrong with this league

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://familysearch.or…

This book is still available through Lulu Press at http://www.lulu.com/us/en

The book can be downloaded as a pdf that is fully searchable. The cost is very nominal.

The Lulu Press description of the book is:

The descendants in this book come from various towns in Nueva Galicia which covers the span of nearly 600 years.

The towns involved include Aguascalientes, Asientos, Calvillo, and Rincon de Romos in Aguascalientes; Teocaltiche, Santa Maria de los Lagos (Lagos de Moreno), San Juan de los Lagos, Ojuelos, and Jalostotitlan in Jalisco; Nochistlan, Sierra de Pinos and Villa del Refugio (Tabasco) in Zacatecas.

There are 246 surnames and these families are listed alphabetically. Common surnames include Alva, Carrillo, Chavez, Delgado, Delgadillo, Fernandez de Palos, Gonzales, Lozano, Macias, Oliva, Perez, Romo de Vivar, Rubalcava, Ruiz de Esparza, Santos, Saucedo, Texeda, Tiscareno and Ximenes just to name a few.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Edgar Olguin Diaz
hola rose
pedro alonso de los inojos y ana dominguez
mat 3 mayo 1632 sierra de pinos
como poder encontrar este documento ?
microfilm?
saludos

Rose:

I received your book in the mail yesterday. Congratulations. It is a great compilation of very valuable genealogical information.

I notice that you have Colotlan parish records listed as one of your sources and I was wondering if you could point out what branches/surnames are from Colotlan. Just curious to see if we have some common ancestors. I know that some of my Tepechitlan families must have come from Nochistlan, i.e. "Gonzalez de Yslas" etc are definitely Nochistlense names.

I highly encourage you to try to get it distributed as far and wide as possible. I recently donated copies of my book to a number of libraries including the Los Angeles Public Library and the Library of Congress.

In addition to being a great source of pride, I think it is important that that our research get recognition and shelf space. Walking into many genealogy collections at libraries would lead to you believe that the U.S. population is all of English, Irish and German descendancy.

The Library of Congress Genealogy Reading Room dedicates a whole six inches of shelf space to Mexican genealogy.

Talk to George Farias at Borderlands Books about distributing your book. He gets orders from many libraries that collect Latino/Mexican genealogical works.

The book is a great resource. It was being sold directly by Luz Montejano Hilton for about $100 plus shipping from Mexico City.

The same records that can be found in the book can now be found online in the Matrimonios volumes at https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysea… and are being indexed at http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/

Armando

Tina

This is a very useful resource, unfortunately it is out of print. However, it is available in some libraries.

A according to Worldcat it is available at the Arizona State Library, Phoenix, as well as the University of Arizona Library, Tucson.

Worldcat, www.worldcat.org, is a very convenient way to locate hard to find books. Many libraries, but not all, are part of this system. If you enter your Zipcode, Worldcat gives you a list of libraries beginning with the one closest to you.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Hello Tina,

Your post was never mailed out so only people that visit this thread at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/21546 will see the post.

There are a lot of records lost or damaged long before they started to microfilm the records so that might be why you can't find the baptism you are looking for.

Your ancestor Teresa Infante Moreno is very likely related to the Díaz-Infante family and to the Moreno de Ortega family.

The godparents of her daughter Luisa de Yepes were Bartolomé Díaz-Infante González-Soriano and María Ana de Anda Altamirano y Moreno de Ortega married 8 Jan 1708 in Lagos de Moreno.

An uncle of Bartolomé was Diego Díaz Infante Espinosa married to Teresa Moreno de Ortega Villegas 24 Nov 1651 in Lagos de Moreno.

Since Manuel Yepes and Teresa Infante Moreno had their first recorded child baptized on 24 Jan 1715 they were married the beginning in 1714 or prior to that. You should search the volumes of Información Matrimonial to see if they had a matrimonial investigation recorded in Lagos in the beginning in 1714 or prior to that.

Also if you look at the godparents of all of the Diaz Infante children and their marriages between 1680 and 1750 you might find a clue. Also the testigos in the Información Matrimonial records might also give you some clues. Other clues to look for are the ranches they were said to have been born in. The children of Teresa Infante Moreno were born in Mariquita, Salsipuedes (belonged to the Moreno de Ortega family) and Portezuelo.

Regards,
Armando

Kristine,

Most of the time that records aren't digitized online it is because they were lost or damaged long before they started to microfilm them. That seems to be what happened in Jerez. That is why Katy was telling you that it is likely that your only hope is finding a dispensa that mentions your ancestors.

Also, the document you linked states that Joseph Vicente was an hijo legitimo and not hijo ilegitimo. In those days illegitimate children were called hijo natural (one parent is known or both but weren't married) or hijo de padres no conocidos (neither parent is known) and not hijo ilegitimo.

Armando

esp is an abbrebiation for espanol. in that context, it means that lineage-wise the child was supposedly white.

you can learn more about the caste system here (although there are some exceptions to the rules stated on that link. for example in jerez (and other nearby towns) people with as much as 1/4 amerindian ancestry usually got the espanol label. occasionally i've seen people whomarked as espanol, then i later found out they had 50%+ amerindian ancestry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta