Nuestros Ranchos Site

Michael:

Huizar is a very common name around Colotlan and Fresnillo is quite close to Colotlan so it is likely that the same families would migrate between these two towns.

I am trying to figure out what information it is that you are looking for. The file in your genealogy folder is very difficult to understand. I can help you try to organize your information into a standard genealogy report if you like.

I believe that Angie Godina has some Huizar lines in Colotlan.

Hi Joseph:

You are right , a female dog can be called a "chucha" and "Chucha" is a nick
name for "Jesusa"
While on the subject..."Lucha" is a nick name for "Luz"

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
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> I've heard of Cuca but not Chucha for a woman. I heard this person
> giving a lecture and he referred to so and so marrying a woman named
> Chucha. IF this is a legitamate nickname what is it the nickname for?
>
> thanks,
>
> joseph
>
> ps: I kind of remember hearing the word chucha as referring to a dog in
> the femine.

I know you didn't mean it in such a manner, Joseph, but it's an
incredibly offensive term in Spanish in Ecuador and other South
American countries. As you may remember, I'm married to an Ecuadoran.
Marge:)
On Jan 27, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> I've heard of Cuca but not Chucha for a woman. I heard this person
> giving a lecture and he referred to so and so marrying a woman named
> Chucha. IF this is a legitamate nickname what is it the nickname for?
>
> thanks,
>
> joseph
>
> ps: I kind of remember hearing the word chucha as referring to a dog in
> the femine.
>

Chucha is often referred to a woman's name who is Jesus.

Esperanza
Chicagoland area

Sr. Joseph:

Lo que dice este correo es solo una posibillidad verdad?, porque mi genealogía ya se la envie y por cierto ya esta en la pagina de Nuestros Ranchos, inclusive se le hicieron unas modificaciones de los apellidos y de los acentos.

Saludos
Fernando Pérez

----- Original Message ----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:18:37 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Unsubscribed: What to Do???

[NOTE: If you received a private email from me you're who I'm talking to
IF YOU DIDN'T please don't panic and ask me about this]

If on 01 February 2007 you find yourself unsubscribed from here is what
to do:

1) Just go to nuestrosranchos.org and click on "Create New Account"

2) fill in the application in specific detail, and submit.

3) You'll get a form letter back telling you to send in your genealogy
to NR@JosephPuentes.com

4) When I receive your genealogy I'll activate your account. . .

. . .see how simple it will be.

thanks and I am sorry for the 50 or so of you that will be unsubscribed
from on 01 Feb 2007 that somehow it didn't work out for you and the
nuestrosranchos.org group to work together in our research of the
Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes area.

The doors will always remain open if later you want to undertake a
Serious Investigation of your Genealogical Roots.

thanks,

Joseph Puentes - Moderator

You're welcome!

Here are some Matiana ESPARSAS, all from Aguascalientes area, the first one is "my" ancestor, the second may be "mine" also.

Ma. Matiana ESPARSA Escobar, born 24 Feb 1759,
yndia nacida en Triana, Ags. Ags.
hija leg. de Joseph Antonio de la Cruz [ESPARSA], coyote,
y Juana Gertrudis ESCOBAR, mestiza de Ags.
married 4 Oct 1775, La Asuncion, Ags Ags
casada con Jossef Miguel MARQUEZ, español de Ags
hijo leg. de Joseph Marcial MARQUES Trillo
y Ana MASIAS-VALADES. Seven children.

Matiana had a second marriage with Joseph GAMES De La Torre, May 1803
Joseph GAMES was married previously to Ma. Josepha Rafaela VALDES.

Mathiana Ana ESPARSA De Alba, c. 1735
aka Ana DE ALVA, Matiana ALVA, Anna Maria ESPARSA, Ana ESPARSA
hija de Joseph Manuel ESPARSA y Catarina DE ALBA
casada con Ygnasio RUIS-ESPARSA Montañes
married 15 Feb 1756, El Sagrario, Ags Ags
8 children, all españoles born in what is now Calvillo, Ags
Juan Ascencion, Joseph Santiago,[cc Maxima GUTIERRES], Jph. Cecilio, Jph. Maria,, Petra, Jph. Maria [Ma. Josepha CARLIN Basques], Maria Felipa, and Mateo [Ma. Trinidad SOSA Peres].

Ma. Matiana ESPARSA Dias, c. 1775-aft Jul 1809, from Ags. Ags., española
hija de Joseph Francisco ESPARSA y Barbara DIAS
casada con Juan Joseph PEDROSA Belasques, español, del Chicolote
married 28 Nov 1792, El Sagrario, Ags, Ags

Matiana ESPARSA, c. 1755
casada con Joseph Antonio QUEVEDO
daughters: Maria de la Luz, casada con Miguel HERNANDES
Maria Josefa, casada con Urbano SERRANO Martines

Mathiana ESPARSA, c. 1695
casada con Joseph LEDESMA
Son, Joseph , born July 1718, Ags, Ags.

Daniel,

Although the name Nicasio is not common, it is definitely a proper hispanic
name. For example, a Nicasio Esparza married a Crespina Lopez in Calvillo
on 10 May 1835. Is this the Nicasio you're looking for? The only Nicasio
Ruiz de Esparza in my database was born 100 years earlier (1703) in the town
of Aguascalientes, not in Calvillo. I also have a Francisco Xavier Narciso
Ruiz de Esparza born in 1714. Both were baptized at the catholic church of
El Sagrario, in Aguascalientes. Sorry.

Bill

Arturo,

How lucky we are in this group to have someone like yourself to keep making the site better and better all the time. As soon as I get more printer ink, I will print out the new guide; I need it as much as any new person.

Thanks,

Emilie

----- Original Message -----
From: arturoramos
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:06 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Updated Nuestros Ranchos User Guide

(Espanol sigue abajo)

I have updated the English version of the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide. It is still not complete but I have updated previously written sections which were outdated and written up what I think are some very important features such as using the Films Database and Searching the GEDCOM database. I have also added an appendix which shows three standard genealogy reports: Ahnentafel, Pedigree Chart and Register so that members can have examples of what genealogy reports should look like. Ideally the reports in your genealogy folder should be in one of these formats for easy sharing with other members.

I strongly suggest that any new members download the guide and print it out to have as a guide of what resources are available on the site and how to make the best use of it. I am hoping to get the changes translated soon.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14123

== ESPANOL ==

He actualizado la version de ingles de la guía de usuario de los ranchos de Nuestros. Todavía no esta completa pero he puesto al día las secciones previamente escritas que eran anticuadas y he escrito secciones sobre lo que pienso son algunas características muy importantes tales como usar la base de datos de las rollos de microfilmacion y como hacer busquedas en la base de datos de GEDCOM. También he agregado un apéndice que demuestra tres reportes estándares de la genealogía: Ahnentafel, una tabla pedigrí y registro para que los miembros puedan tener ejemplos de como deben parecer los reportes de genealogía. Idealmente los documentos en su carpeta de la genealogía deben estar en uno de estos formatos para que otros miembros puedan facilmente comprenderlos.

Sugiero fuertemente que cualquier nuevo miembro descargue la guía y la imprima para tener como guía de qué recursos están disponibles en el sitio y de cómo hacer el mejor uso de él. Esperamos tener una traduccion de la actualizacion en el futuro proximo.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14123

And very nice photos they are, too! I've just been on the website
trying to match surnames, etc., to some of mine and having noooooo
luck. It irks me that surnames and birthplaces and residences are
]that[ close and yet there's no match for me. All the best, Marge:)
On Jan 28, 2007, at 2:56 PM, longsjourney wrote:

>
> I just added some photo's of my maternal and paternal families in the
> albums section under Linda Castanon-Long. I will be adding a few more
> in the coming week.
>
> Linda in Everett

Joseph,

If I understand your question, you want to know how to identify, in PAF where certain individuals are by the geographical area.

If so, the easiest way, 1) is to click on the print button, 2) choose the list tab, 3) then click on Places sorted alphabetically. Then you can ether print the list or you can preview it on your screen. This report will show you each geographical place in your PAF file, with every event and date of the event that took place in each place.

Jonathan

Here are a couple of pictures of Las Bocas which is between Santa Maria
de Los Angeles and Huejucar, Jalisco:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15604

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

arturoramos wrote:
> As part of the remake of the Nuestros Ranchos site that I would like to do over the next few months, I would like to redo the "main image" of the site to include names of places that we cover written in very old documents, i.e. parrish records or wills. I have plenty of scans from my area around Colotlan and Tlaltenango but would like to include some from Los Altos, Aguascalientes and northern Zacatecas. If anybody has any old photos of towns in these areas or scans of documents where the names of towns are written out, can you please email them to me or upload them to the Albums section?
>
> I really appreciate it. Are there any good graphic designers out there?

Dear Everyone:
A big thank you for what you do! Now I would like to volunteer, but I do not know where you might use me. I have little tech experience. I know my way around the computer and I am willing to learn. I know Excel very well and love spreadsheets. Until I retired, I did documentation for international shipping, so quite a bit of detail work and I type well. I speak little Spanish, so I am unable to translate. Joseph, do you have somewhere you could use me?

Maureen

Joseph, Kitty, Alicia, Arturo, John, Enrique:

Muchas gracias a todos por Nuestros Ranchos.

Tambien quiero agradecer a las personas que me han ayudado (María, Juanita).

Atte.
Fernando Pérez

----- Original Message ----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:49:08 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Function of the nuestrosranchos.org Group Continues Because. . .

the nuestrosranchos.org site continues because of the hard work and
dedication of its volunteers: Kitty Cortez, Alicia Carrillo, John
Gonzalez, and Enrique Legaspi. It sounds like there will be others who
are joining in to do the work as well soon.

We all know the great work that Arturo has done with the website and a
continued thanks go to him for his efforts. Muchisimas Arturo!

I just wanted to publicly thanks John Gonzalez and Enrique Legaspi for
their help in doing Translation work for me when I needed something to
be said "correctly." You all have seen that my written Spanish is
terrible and these two gentlemen have stepped up to help me greatly and
I'm counting on them to help in the future. Thank you John and thank you
Enrique.

I wanted to point out two special volunteers whose efforts are going
unnoticed by the members of the group but without their help the burden
of the workload would have destroyed my will to continue on in the group
as one of the Moderators:

1) Alicia Carrillo: Our Spam Master. She is the one that allows or
disallows Spam from getting to the group. Have you noticed how the
nuestrosranchos.org site gets no spam? Well it is sent to a special
folder where on a daily basis Alicia goes in and deletes all the spam
and hunts for the misc. message that a new member will send before they
reply to those three confirmation emails that we must all reply to
before being allowed to send messages to the lists. Anyway this job in
this day and age is very needed and time consuming. I was stressing
about it and Alicia came to the rescue and has helped greatly in
assuring that no legitimate messages get tossed out with the tons of
spam the three lists receive daily. Mucha Gracias Alicia.

2) Kitty Cortez: Our Potential New Members Screener. Whenever potential
new members apply for a new account they get sent a message saying they
need to do their own research and send in their representative genealogy
to be admitted as members of the group. After about 15 days of no
response Kitty sends them an email reminding the potential new members
that in order for their membership account to be activated they need to
send in their genealogies. Then after about 30 days Kitty sends a last
message saying that if they don't reply ASAP (deadline given) their
application for membership will be deleted. I can't believe how many new
potential members are applying every week thanks to Arturo's site design
which allows the search engines to find us. This job got really out of
hand and I was straining under the load of doing it until Kitty
volunteered to help. Thank you thank you thank you, Kitty!

I can't express how much I appreciate the efforts of Alicia, Kitty,
John, and Enrique. Having said that I don't want them to think that I'm
just assuming they will do this job forever (it would be okay with me if
they wanted to do it forever). Arturo has already made a call for new
volunteers to help with some projects he has lined up and I want other
members to keep in mind that I might need help from you in possibly
assisting Alicia and Kitty. Now they are Trojans and have not asked for
any help and I won't be interfering with their efforts but it is
possible that sometime in the future they might need a "break" or
assistance. So I want all of you to think of getting on my list of
people that I can potentially call upon if I need an "on-call" volunteer.

thanks again for everyone's interest, participation and contribution to
the group.

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Daniel,

The best way to resolve this problem is by ordering film No. 0635887 at your LDS Family History Center, and checking Pablo Vasquez and Martina Esparza's marriage record. This microfilm includes marriages that took place between 1813-1854 at the Catholic Church of Nuestro Señor San Jose. By checking this microfilm you will be able to check 1) if the name was transcribed correctly and 2) verify the names of their parents. I find errors in IGI sheets every day, therefore I try to verify each and every one of them by checking the original records. I've been doing this for nearly three years. You can also check the baptismal records for Leandro and Petra on microfilms No. 0635767 and No. 0635767 to verify that the names of their parents are correct on the IGI sheets.

Bill

Yes Daniel, I have three genealogical lines going straight to Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabai de Moctezuma. Allegedly, Petronila de Moctezuma, Francisca's mother, was the granddaughter of the last Aztec emperor Moctezuma II, although no one has been able to prove it. Hopefully, we'll find the proper documentation one of these days. Unfortunately, most of what has been posted on the Internet about her "parents" is pure speculation and wishful thinking.

You can check my genealogical information in Nuestros Ranchos at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15225

Rgds,
Bill

I've moved this discussion over to the research@nuestrosranchos.org list:

here is what is available through your local Family History Center.
There are a very few films available through this source before the
1690's but there area a few:

Title
*Registros parroquiales, 1678-1940*

Authors
*Iglesia Católica. San Juan Bautista (Sombrerete, Zacatecas) (Main Author)*

Notes
*Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo parroquial.
Muchos de los registros incluyen índice.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages, marriage
petitions, deaths, and other church records from Sombrerete, Zacatecas,
Mexico.
Many of the registers include an index.*

Subjects
* México, Zacatecas, Sombrerete - Church records*

Format
* Manuscript (On Film)*

Language
* Spanish*

Publication
* Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah,
1966, 1994*

Physical
* 42 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.*

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
* Bautismos 1679-1688, 1693-1695, 1710-1770 - FHL INTL Film [ 604811 ]
Bautismos 1741-1747, 1758-1760 - FHL INTL Film [ 604812 ]
Bautismos 1761-1777 - FHL INTL Film [ 604813 ]
Bautismos 1789-1791, 1794-1795, 1797-1800 - FHL INTL Film [ 604814 ]
Bautismos 1802-1803, 1809-1825 - FHL INTL Film [ 604815 ]
Bautismos 1824-1825, 1833, 1839-1841 - FHL INTL Film [ 604816 ]
Bautismos 1863-1869 - FHL INTL Film [ 604817 ]
Bautismos 1865-1869 - FHL INTL Film [ 604818 ]
Bautismos 1869-1871 - VAULT INTL Film [ 604819 ]
Bautismos 1871-1880 - FHL INTL Film [ 617424 ]
Bautismos 1872-1878 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654972 ]
Bautismos 1876-1879 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654973 ]
Bautismos 1878-1889 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654974 ]
Bautismos 1881-1886 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654975 ]
Bautismos 1886-1890 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654976 ]
Bautismos 1889-1893 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654977 ]
Bautismos 1893-1896 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654978 ]
Bautismos 1896-1899 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654979 ]
Bautismos 1899-1901 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654980 ]
Confirmaciones 1869-1903 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654981 ]
Matrimonios 1695-1788 - FHL INTL Film [ 654982 ]
Matrimonios 1793-1854 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654983 ]
Información matrimonial 1863-1878 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654984 ]
Información matrimonial 1867-1889 - FHL INTL Film [ 654985 ]
Información matrimonial 1890-1900 - FHL INTL Film [ 654986 ]
Información matrimonial 1891-1892 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654987 ]
Información matrimonial 1892-1896 - FHL INTL Film [ 654988 ]
Información matrimonial 1896-1899 - FHL INTL Film [ 654989 Item 1 ]
Docmentos eclesiásticos 1895-1920 - FHL INTL Film [ 654989 Item 2 ]
Defunciones 1678-1811 - FHL INTL Film [ 654990 ]
Defunciones 1809-1901 - VAULT INTL Film [ 654991 ]
Bautismos L. 41-46 1902-1904 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909685 ]
Bautismos L. 47-53 1904-1908 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909686 ]
Bautismos L. 54-59 1908-1912 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909687 ]
Bautismos L. 60-65 1912-1915 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909688 ]
Bautismos L. 66-70 1915-1922 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909689 ]
Bautismos L. 71-74 1922-1927, 1929 - FHL INTL Film [ 1909690 ]
Bautismos L. 74-77 1929-1931 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909691 ]
Confirmaciones L. 6-7 1910-1914, 1919-1931 (El L. 6 incluye algunas de
la parroquia de Fresnillo.) - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909692 Items 1-2 ]
Matrimonios L. 19-28 1901-1911 (Falta el L. 23.) - VAULT INTL Film [
1909692 Items 3-11 ]
Matrimonios L. 29-36 1911-1914 (Incluyen informaciones
matrimoniales.) - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909693 ]
Matrimonios L. 36-43 bis 1914-1925 (Los L. 37-41 incluyen informaciones
matrimoniales y el L. 42 incluye dispensas.) - FHL INTL Film [ 1909694 ]
Matrimonios L. 43 bis-44 1925-1926, 1929-1931 - VAULT INTL Film [
1909695 Items 1-2 ]
Noticias matrimoniales L. 1 1908-1940 (Faltan años.) - VAULT INTL Film
[ 1909695 Item 3 ]
Informaciones matrimoniales L. 1-3 1915-1922 - VAULT INTL Film [
1909695 Items 4-6 ]
Presentaciones matrimoniales L. 2-3 1922-1924 - VAULT INTL Film [
1909695 Items 7-8 ]
Presentaciones matrimoniales L. 4 1924 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909696 Item 1 ]
Informaciones matrimoniales L. 4-6 1924-1926, 1929-1931 - VAULT INTL
Film [ 1909696 Items 2-4 ]
Entierros L. 2-4 1901-1940 - VAULT INTL Film [ 1909696 Items 5-7 ]*

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

DENISE LOVATO-DURAN wrote:
> The Lobato's were from Sombrete, Zacatacas can someone tell me where this is? And where would I find records earlier than 1690's?
>
> Denise Lovato-Duran

Joseph, ya estoy traduciendo este correo y comienzo a entender mejor. El programa freetraslation.com es bueno para entender sus correos. Muchas gracias.

Joseph Puentes escribió:
Okay folks listen up!

One day someone is going to desperately want to search for a specific
email by using the search engine. In order for the search engine to work
to this advantage we need to give the proper names for the subjects of
the emails.

1) If you are replying to an email and are changing the subject please
change the subject accordingly. You can say something like: Census
Records - was: "Introduction"

2) Yes and lets start getting just a bit more specific about the
subject. One day we might need to look for someones introduction and
come to find 100 messages with the subject being "Introduction" why not
lets say: "Joseph Puentes: Introduction"

3) Also let's try to keep in mind what each of the three email lists are
for:

research@nuestrosranchos.org is for messages that are specifically for
research in our area: Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
_Messages related to genealogy but not about Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes should not go to this list. _

general@nuestrosranchos.org is for brief discussions about genealogy
_outside our area of research_ OR messages about _other topics_ that the
group might find useful including those that are related to Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. IF IF someone starts a conversation
about genealogy research related to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes on this list then let's all try to move the conversation
as soon as possible back to research@nuestrosranchos.org

announce@nuestrosranchos.org is for announcements.

thanks for your help with this,

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

I am sending you a tree in the rtf format on my
genealogy. Hope soon I will make more progress in it.

Juan Carlos Correa

____________________________________________________________________________________
8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news

Michael,
I have a Huizar in my tree who is my gg grandmother, have not been able to
find any info on her; what I have is this:

Maria Huizar
DOB Estamated 1859-give or take 5 years
DOD Unknown; may have moved and died in Los
Angeles, CA
Married: Cristobol Hernandez
Children: At least 2 females that is known of, one by the
name of Zenona Hernandez, born in 1879, she
moved from Fresnillo, Zac, Mx. and died in
L.A., CA.. in 1927. The 2nd siblings name is
unknown, it is beleived that she also left Mexico
and lived in L.A, and that Maria Huizar lived
with her.
I can come forward from Zenona (Huizar) Hernandez, but I have not been able
to find anything on Maria Huizar and Cristobol Hernandez, except that they
were maternal grandparents to Zononas' siblings. All of Zononas' siblings
claim they were born in Fresnillo, and I have proof that at least 2 of them
were.

Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: "michael huizar"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:59 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] michael huizar

>
> Looking for any information to huizar family name in aguascalientes. I
> have extensive info on Huizar family related to Pedro Huizar in eeuu. any
> info would be great! thank you!

Agustin:

Have you used the films section in the site yet? The search that Jonathan did for you can easily be done by simply going to the "Films" area, then clicking on Jalisco, then on Totatiche or Colotlan as the case may be and then finding the appropriate film, i.e. Marriages 1847-1856 or Baptisms 1756-1797, etc. If there is an "IGI" or "VRI" button next to the film information, that means the film is indexed on familysearch.org so you can simply click on the button and it will give you a listing of everything that is on the film. You can then click on the "Refine Search" link on the upper right and enter as little or as much information as you like to narrow down the search.

So if you went and picked the marriages film from Colotlan for the appropriate year, then simply entered "Mota" as the last name you would find the marriage record that Jonathan mentions. Unfortunately whomever extracted that film did not list parents so you have to order the film in order to get one generation back.

There is this record on IGI as well which may be worth looking at but only after you can ascertain that it is indeed the same Francisca Herrera from the marriage document in Colotlan:

Francisca De Luna Herrera
Birth: About 1846 Santo Tomas, Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico
Parents:
Father: Ramon Herrera
Mother: Maria Felipa De Luna

Which family history center have you been trying to use? These are the ones listed for your area. Santa Rosa is less than 20 miles and has pretty extensive hours.

Cloverdale California
1011 So Cloverdale Blvd
Cloverdale, Sonoma, California, United States
Phone: 707-894-9238
Hours: W 10am-7pm
Closed: Closed the last two weeks of December.

Santa Rosa California
1725 Peterson Lane
Santa Rosa, Sonoma, California, United States
Phone: 707-525-0399
Hours: M,W 1pm-5pm; T 1pm-9pm; Th 9am-5pm; Sat 9am-1pm
Closed: 1st Sat in April & Oct; Memorial Day; Labor Day Sat-Mon; July 4th week; Thanksgiving week

Sea Ranch California
45500 Pacific Woods Road
Gualala, Sonoma, California, United States
Phone: 707-884-3255
Hours: M-F By appt

Sonoma California
16280 La Grama
Agua Caliente, Sonoma, California, United States
Phone: 707-996-2369
Hours: T,Th 9am-5pm

Agustin,

Are you sure that, your Mota line is from Totatiche. I did a quick search
for Vicente and Francisca in Totatiche and found nothing. But I found a
Vicente Mota that married a Francisca Herrera, on 20 Apr 1853, in Colotlan,
Jalisco. With the following children:

Maria Sotera Mota Herrera born: 23 Apr 1854 Colotlan
Jose Merced Mota Herrera born: 24 Sep 1855 Colotlan
Severa Mota Herrera born: 09 Nov 1857 Colotlan
Agustin Mota Herrera born: 28 Aug 1862 Colotlan
Dominga Mota Herrera born: 06 Aug 1865 Colotlan
Gregoria Mota Herrera born: 11 Sep 1868 Colotlan
Maria Mota Herrera Born: 14 Jun 1871 Colotlan

If this is your family, I would suggest looking at the children's
christening records, your can get the film numbers from the IGI at Family
Search.org. Also I would suggest looking the marriage record for Vicente
and Francisca (film number: 0443785) and the Informacion Matrimonial films
(film numbers: 0443718 and 0443719).

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of agustin
mota
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:23 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] best sites for reasearch

agustin mota wrote: hello evryone i find
myself stuck in my familt reasearch. can somene help? what i need is
information for my mota line. i am up to 1862 with agustin mota.next would
be vicente mota apr,1840 and francisca herrera husband and wife from
totatiche jalisco. i am looking for guidence.the famiy reaseach facility in
my area for some reason is closed. thank you for youre support. agustin

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Agustin,

Are you sure that, your Mota line is from Totatiche. I did a quick search for Vicente and Francisca in Totatiche and found nothing. But I found a Vicente Mota that married a Francisca Herrera, on 20 Apr 1853, in Colotlan, Jalisco. With the following children:

Maria Sotera Mota Herrera born: 23 Apr 1854 Colotlan
Jose Merced Mota Herrera born: 24 Sep 1855 Colotlan
Severa Mota Herrera born: 09 Nov 1857 Colotlan
Agustin Mota Herrera born: 28 Aug 1862 Colotlan
Dominga Mota Herrera born: 06 Aug 1865 Colotlan
Gregoria Mota Herrera born: 11 Sep 1868 Colotlan
Maria Mota Herrera born: 14 Jun 1871 Colotlan

If this is your family, I would suggest looking at the children's christening records, your can get the film numbers from the IGI at Family Search.org. Also I would suggest looking the marriage record for Vicente and Francisca (film number: 0443785) and the Informacion Matrimonial films (film numbers: 0443718 and 0443719).

Jonathan