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not sure this is going to shed any light on your question but at least its related.

from this website this is what is said:

http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/spa2.html

HERMENEGILDO   m   Spanish, Portuguese
Spanish and Portuguese form of a Gothic name which meant "complete sacrifice" from Germanic ermen "whole, entire" and gild "sacrifice".


Ray Jauregui wrote:

I need some help in clarifying what appears to be variations in the 
given names Gil and Gila.  Is Gil a contraction of Mergil and/or 
Hermeregildo?  Is Gila a contraction of Hermeregilda?  I have a 
number of people found in different records whom I need to determine 
if they are the same person but recorded with

Hello Alice, Joseph and others,

Thank you for your encouraging words. After rereading what I posted
Saturday, I must have been extra stressed out that day. No, civil
marriage certificates from San Francisco do not list parents - that
would have been too easy!

My father, now deceased, had passed down a rather fantastic family
story about his father's side, about two elder brothers getting
together to disinherit a much younger brother and then seeing to it
that important records were destroyed...and then in turn the youngest
brother disinherited his own son (my grandfather).

Very reluctantly, I'm now beginning to believe that this 'fantastic
family story' might be based on fact. Why reluctantly? Because to
most genealogists family stories are just that, stories, and inherently
suspect until proven to be factual. To his dying day my father didn't
believe me when I told him that the tiny, dainty little old lady (on
his maternal side) in the family photograph, the

I need some help in clarifying what appears to be variations in the 
given names Gil and Gila.  Is Gil a contraction of Mergil and/or 
Hermeregildo?  Is Gila a contraction of Hermeregilda?  I have a 
number of people found in different records whom I need to determine 
if they are the same person but recorded with a variation of name.   
Has anyone a difinitive answer?   



 

Hello Steve,

I am so impressed with how you're going about your research.  I am 
basically following the same standard of confirming everything off 
the actual microfilm.  If I find someone on the IGI, I do add them 
to my database and reference the IGI, but will eventually go to the 
microfilm and get a print.  I didn't find a link between us, but it 
could be we will find one later as we get further back.  I only wish 
I had started my research when I was your age or that I had more 
free time to visit my local FHC. By the way, I live in Elk Grove, CA 
(a suburb of Sacramento).

Maria Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "sgapodaca"  wrote:
> Hello, possible primo.
> 
> I will have this is the Cervantes family that I have on my file.
> Marcelo Cervantes, married Maria Salazar before 1821. So far, I 
have 
> verified four relatives. I have found others on the IGI, but I 
don't 
> put them on my file until I see with my own eyes the actual 
> microfilm or document

surprising amount of detail on this map. . .its a bit crude and probably
out of scale but it could be helpful. . .maybe.

joseph

http://www.loc.gov/rr/geogmap/luso/mexico.html#mexico

see #540

ps: you need to select the amount of magnification and then click on the
section of the map you want to see.

new additions have been made. . . .don't everybody be shy go ahead and
add your favorite place in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dsjmx.html

partial listing, i think:

Jerez, Zacatecas

    Batch No.:      Dates:                Source Call No.:

C600802 1746 - 1758 0439845

C600803 1761 - 1771 0439846
J600804 1771 - 1780 0439847
K600804 1771 - 1780 0439847
J600805 1780 - 1800 0439848
K600805 1780 - 1800 0439848

C600807 1820 - 1828 0439850

C600808 1836 - 1840 0439851

J600806 1806 - 1874 0439849
K600806 1806 - 1874 0439849

Matrimonios:

   Batch No.:       Dates:                Source Call No.:

M600801 1710 - 1784 0439844

All right, here's another problem, actually several questions, I'm
putting in the hands of this knowledgeable group:

Over the years we've tried to find my paternal grandfather's baptismal
record, going through many films of Bautismos in El Sagrario. I know
now where and when he was born, as eventually his civil birth record
was found under just his mother's name. His name was Leon CALVILLO
Ponce, natural son of Jose Guillermo CALVILLO Ursua and Maria Placida
PONCE Medina. (His parents, my great-grandparents, were eventually
married through the Church, in 1875.)

But here's my question: He should have been baptized sometime in April
1869. Although we couldn't find him in any of the relevant books, we
did come across a mystifying reference to a 'libro secreto #2' wherein
(I assume) were written the entries of natural or illegitimate
children [Film #299489, Bautismos del Sagrario 1868-1870]. If I were
to find this libro secreto #2, maybe it would list my

Thanks to members of this group who sent me notes about Autlan de la
grana. Finally we know what happened to it - nothing! The name was
changed, that's all. It's been there all along, in fact, since the 7th
century.

My gr-grandparents' notebook is from about 1870 to 1884. I vaguely
remember my abuelita mentioning the Cristero wars.

For sgapodaca: The only APODACA surnames I have in my database are

1) Don Andres APODACA, c. 1780.

He was padrino, with Maria Antonia GARSIA, to her granddaughter, Maria
Marsela, hija legitima de Juan Jose SERRANO y Maria Simona RADILLO
Garsia in Feb. 1822, in Autlan. Maria Antonia GARSIA was the first
wife of Joseph RADILLO-GUSMAN. (Joseph RADILLO-GUSMAN I believe was my
gr3 grandfather, with his second wife, but I can't prove it yet.)

Don Andres APODACA was also padrino, with the same Maria Simona
RADILLO, above, to Jose Valerio, hijo legitimo de Jose Maria GARSIA y
Felipa QUIÑONES in Feb 1823.

2) Julia APODACA, c. 1840, with

I wrote to John Schmal and he gave me permission to send this to the group.

joseph
=======================================

Dear Associates and Fellow Members:

The following notes are rules of thumb for International Genealogical
Index (IGI) searches in Mexico. (© 2000 by John P. Schmal, JohnnyPJ@...).
The IGI is a dynamic database that can be of tremendous help in locating Mexican
ancestors between 1700 and 1880. It has a filter, so that you can limit
your search to particular states.

1. Don't be confused by spelling. The IGI groups together similar
sounding surnames through soundexing. Spelling is the least reliable
indicator in Mexican genealogy. A surname that is spelled one way in
1800 may be spelled differently in 1850. Robalcaba may be spelled
several ways: Rubalcaba, Rubalcava, Robalacaba, Robalcava.

2. Always consider how close your locality is to the nearest state
boundary. People moved around. They may be in Sinaloa in one generation
and in nearby Sonora in

Hello, Gloria. To be honest with you, I was not sure where Autlan de 
la Grana was, but I assumed that it was close to Autlan de Navarro. 
Well, I did some extra google 'research' and found out where Autlan 
de la Grana actually is. Autlan de la Grana is not only close to 
Autlan de Navarro, but IT IS actually Autlan de Navarro. How old is 
your great-grandparents notebook? The town's original name was 
Autlan de la Grana, but according to a page that I read, it changed 
to Autlan de Navarro on July 27, 1939 to honor General Paulino 
Navarro. Even though the name of some communities oficially change, 
some people still use the old name. 
This has nothing to do with your question, but just as a curious 
fact, I noticed that my Apodaca ancestors have lived for at least 
two centuries in a small town in Jalisco called Santa Catarina. If 
someone knows that his/hers own ancestors are from Santa Catarina, 
but does not know where this village is, he/she will never find it 
on a current map

My name is Steve Campos and I am researching my father's line
from 
El Cargadero, Jerez, Zacatecas.

The family names that I have found so far are Acuña, Arredondo, 
Campos, Carrillo, Fernandez, Miranda, Ortiz, Ramires, and Ubillos.

I have a web site at http://home.earthlink.net/~jerez that contains 
the basics of my research.  I am over 3,200 people in my direct line 
family and over 10,000 people in my database.  I have collected 
information on all of the family names in the Jerez microfilms that 
I am researching, from the LDS church, in hopes of making a 
connection some day.  In doing this kind of research I have been 
able to go from less than 100 people to the 3,200 people just by 
finding the right connection.

It has taken several months to collect the data that I have so far.  
With the church records being handwritten it sometimes takes a 
little while to figure out what the priest was writing.  It is also 
been a challenge to determine correct spelling on some of the

not sure but check this site that Maria Cortez linked in the links area:
http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm

look under A and Autlan for a lot of info on Autlan in Jalisco. Not sure
if it will answer your question though,

joseph

Gloria Delgado wrote:

I'm sure someone in this group has an answer to my question - where
exactly is Autlan de la Grana? Is it near Autlan de Navarro, and are
both Autlans part of the larger city? And how old is Autlan de la
Grana? The only thing I can find out from the internet is that it has
a bullring!

A notebook that belonged to my great-grandparents noted that four of
their children were born there (ZARAGOZA & CASTILLO surnames).

I'd be grateful for any help or history.

Gloria

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

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Hello,

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makas_nc 
 

I'm sure someone in this group has an answer to my question - where
exactly is Autlan de la Grana? Is it near Autlan de Navarro, and are
both Autlans part of the larger city? And how old is Autlan de la
Grana? The only thing I can find out from the internet is that it has
a bullring!

A notebook that belonged to my great-grandparents noted that four of
their children were born there (ZARAGOZA & CASTILLO surnames).

I'd be grateful for any help or history.

Gloria

thanks for your thanks. sometimes I wish i could do more but there is only so much time. i would like to help you with your work but unless we find where in Mexico the Garza's came from it will be difficult.

I don't recall when your people came into the states but if they were here in 1900, 1910, 1920 and/or 1930 have you accounted for them in the census records? If you find them in the census records around the time they came into the US that might give you some indication where they crossed into the US. If you know that you might be able to find border crossing info. . .that is unless they did like some of my relatives and came in on the sly.

other sources of US records that might [slim chance but possible] give you the place in Mexico they were from:

SS application records
INS

http://www.zacatecas.gob.mx/ssz/reg_jurisdiccional/jurisdicciones.html

here is another one for Jerez, Zacatecas.

http://www.jerez.com.mx/

I'm sure some of you all have other websites for the towns you are
researching.

Thanks Steve Apodaca for the motivation to do this,

Joseph