Ranchos2 Progress

okay I've got all the stuff that was in the Aah-ther folder
transferred over to the Ranchos2 files area. You'll find a link to the
Ranchos2 files area in the links area. 

Yahoo only allows me to subscribe 10 members per day so by the end of
the week I should have all of us moved onto the list. I'd rather do it
this way so I won't get confused. . .it doesn't take much.

anyway this really looks like the best way as we now have very much
room for new or updated genealogies. I guess this should provide a lot
of motivation. . .right?

Joseph


Copywrite Law


Inspired by Maria Cortez and others I've added info on Copywrite Law to
the groups description and the first file in the files area.


Maria did the research and maybe later she can send a message to the
group outlining her findings on how our work is "already" copywrite
protected.


thanks Maria,

joseph



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File Storage Problem

I'm okay with Ranchos 2.  

Carol
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Pueblos On The Web

Suave,

I added links to Santa Maria de los Angeles and Colotlan, Jalisco

great idea. . . thanks for the contribution,

joseph


sgapodaca wrote:

This is a message for all the members of this group. Knowing our
family roots is very important for all of us. However, I believe
that along with it we must also know a little bit about the history
and places where our ancestors lived. That's why I added a new file
on the links section called Pueblos On The Web. I started by putting
a link to a website that contains lots of information about Zacoalco
de Torres, Jalisco. Besides current issues on Zacoalco, it has a
very detailed history about the municipio, along with interesting
pictures. Check it out and let me know what you think about it.
There are probably more websites about other municipios that I don't
know about but someone else does. Why don't we all add a link to a
municipio website into this file? Even though I might not find
ancestors in a specific municipio, I

New Beginnings

I have finally begun my search in earnest. They say that nosotros los Mejicanos say manana and it could mean anywhere from manana to infinity.
 
Yesterday I spent all day on the internet in the family history library documenting the possible films I would need to request at my local FHC center for the Zacatecas/Nochistlan areas. I noted the two local locations available in my area with the addresses, times open etc.
 
Off I went this morning with all my data/facts in hand and with a little bit of family oral history. I arrived at my local center and it was closed, schedule said open T, W & TH 9 AM till 9 PM. The phone number listed for the other location in Milpitas has been disconnected with no new or forwarding number.
 
The moral of the story here is don't give up and don't get too frustrated. Remember it's still manana for this fifty something Zacatecana in San Jose.
 
PS: You all have inspired me with your intros and your bios to get moving, especially all the younger members

Pueblos On The Web

This is a message for all the members of this group. Knowing our 
family roots is very important for all of us. However, I believe 
that along with it we must also know a little bit about the history 
and places where our ancestors lived. That's why I added a new file 
on the links section called Pueblos On The Web. I started by putting 
a link to a website that contains lots of information about Zacoalco 
de Torres, Jalisco. Besides current issues on Zacoalco, it has a 
very detailed history about the municipio, along with interesting 
pictures. Check it out and let me know what you think about it. 
There are probably more websites about other municipios that I don't 
know about but someone else does. Why don't we all add a link to a 
municipio website into this file? Even though I might not find 
ancestors in a specific municipio, I would sure like to know more 
about the history of it.



Greetings and Introduction

Hello, Janet. I remember you from a message board in Genealogy.com . 
Unfortunately, we found out that there are no close matches in our 
family tree. Something interesting, I noticed, by looking at message 
boards, that there are a lot, and I mean A LOT, of Curiel's in the 
area of Atenguillo-Guachinango-Mascota. You know, with all the 
people researching Curiel ancestors from Atenguillo and close 
villages we can create a new group exclusive for this surname in 
this area.

That reminds me. Joseph, is it ok to invite another genealogist to 
this group? I am very sure that he is serious about his research. 
And yes, he is probably a distant Curiel primo.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Iglesias"  
wrote:
> Hello Steve:
> 
> 1. My research is focused more on my father's side . . . Iglesias 
Family Tree from the state of Jalisco. The Iglesias family are 
originally from the little towns of Guachinango, Atenguillo, and 
Ameca. I noticed that you have Curiel as

Greetings and Introduction

Hello, possible primo.

I will have this is the Cervantes family that I have on my file.
Marcelo Cervantes, married Maria Salazar before 1821. So far, I have 
verified four relatives. I have found others on the IGI, but I don't 
put them on my file until I see with my own eyes the actual 
microfilm or document where they are described. The children on my 
file are: Cruz Cervantes born aroun 1821 in Los Pozos and married 
with Maria Rita Apodaca, Maria Guadalupe Cervantes born around 1825 
in San Marcos and married with Nemecio Apodaca, Ysidro Cervantes, 
born around 1832 in San Marcos and married with Martina Gil, and 
Higinia Cervantes born around 1846 and never married according to 
her death certificate from 1916. As soon as I find some free time, I 
will order some microfilms to find the baptim documents of the 
Cervantes kids. I approximated their birth date from their marriage 
or death records. 

By the way, Angel, Zacoalco is actually a big municipio. There are 
about 25,000

File Storage Problem

I'm also partial to continuing with the Ranchos 2 idea.  I've worked with Myfamily.com before and it is a good site, but with everyone in this group familiar with the current Ranchos site I think it is a better way to go.


makas@... wrote:


we are running out of room in the File area for storing the genealogies.
We are allowed 20,000 kb and are currently using 14,500 kb. We have a
little room to go but want to discuss this problem with you all.

I have a website at usgenealogy.net and the site owner said that I could
start up another webpage just for the group. We could use the page just
to post genealogies, but it wouldn't be private like the Yahoo site. But
it would be private in that only members would know the address. Well I
guess that's really not private as someone could just wander into the
site and look at everyone's genealogy. Or some future disgruntled member
could go and post the webpages address all over the internet.
[http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/joseph27703/]

We could

File Storage Problem

    Yes, I definitely would
like to keep our genealogies private.  I would hate to see our hard work
show up in someone's published work without our permission &
knowledge.  We've all worked too hard to see it all go public.
    How does My Family.com
work?  Although I like the keeping our genealogies in Ranchos 1 and all
other info in Ranchos 2 idea better.
 
My ever-humble opinion.  Since when has
a Jaliciense ever been humble?
Irma
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:23
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] File
Storage Problem

Your idea sounds quite good.  I really don't think it would be too
much of a hassle to have to register to the other site.  We should keep
our private genealogies right here in Ranchos (1) and put other files and
messages in Ranchos2.  But having the other site sounds like a perfectly
good idea.
 
Steven H.

File Storage Problem

I dont have any additional suggestions, but what ever you all decide on will
be fine with me


Thank you,



              ~~glo~~







From: makas@...
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: LosRanchos 
Subject: [ranchos] File Storage Problem
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:34:43 -0500


we are running out of room in the File area for storing the genealogies.
We are allowed 20,000 kb and are currently using 14,500 kb. We have a
little room to go but want to discuss this problem with you all.

I have a website at usgenealogy.net and the site owner said that I could
start up another webpage just for the group. We could use the page just
to post genealogies, but it wouldn't be private like the Yahoo site. But
it would be private in that only members would know the address. Well I
guess that's really not private as someone could just wander into the
site and look at everyone's genealogy. Or some future disgruntled member
could go and post the webpages address all over

File Storage Problem


I'm going to work on a Ranchos2 because I'm most familiar with how to do
that. The myFamily sounds good, but me being familiar with Yahoo gave
that option the nudge. I'm hoping it will be as simple as putting info
into the Ranchos2 file area and linking to it in the Ranchos1 Links area.


Here's what I need from everyone. In about 1 week I'm going to have the
new group up and running. I'm then going to subscribe everyone to that
group.


Soooo that means that if you take acception to me doing this you need to
tell me. Just a simple, "don't subscribe me to the Ranchos2 group" reply
will do.


thanks,

joseph

ps: this is not written in stone yet so if there are more options that
people want to voice I'm still looking for ideas. If we don't use them
now we might in the future.




Angel R. Cervantes wrote:

I agree with Steven H. I am o.k. with a Ranchos2.





File Storage Problem

Your idea sounds quite good.  I really don't think it would be too much of a hassle to have to register to the other site.  We should keep our private genealogies right here in Ranchos (1) and put other files and messages in Ranchos2.  But having the other site sounds like a perfectly good idea.

 

Steven H.

File Storage Problem

An option could be to use MyFamily.com.  It is private
and secure.  Individuals must be registered as members
and must have a userid and password to access the
information.  You have access to 5MB of storage for
free.  You can also increase your storage to 105MB for
a fee of $19.95 per year.  More storage is available
for more money.

     -Esther


--- makas@... wrote:
> 
> we are running out of room in the File area for
> storing the genealogies. 
> We are allowed 20,000 kb and are currently using
> 14,500 kb. We have a 
> little room to go but want to discuss this problem
> with you all.
> 
> I have a website at usgenealogy.net and the site
> owner said that I could 
> start up another webpage just for the group. We
> could use the page just 
> to post genealogies, but it wouldn't be private like
> the Yahoo site. But 
> it would be private in that only members would know
> the address. Well I 
> guess that's really not private as someone could
> just wander into the 
> site and

File Storage Problem


we are running out of room in the File area for storing the genealogies.
We are allowed 20,000 kb and are currently using 14,500 kb. We have a
little room to go but want to discuss this problem with you all.


I have a website at usgenealogy.net and the site owner said that I could
start up another webpage just for the group. We could use the page just
to post genealogies, but it wouldn't be private like the Yahoo site. But
it would be private in that only members would know the address. Well I
guess that's really not private as someone could just wander into the
site and look at everyone's genealogy. Or some future disgruntled member
could go and post the webpages address all over the internet.
[http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/joseph27703/]


We could start a second YahooGroup called Ranchos2 and use the 20,000kb
of the files in that group to store genealogies but then everyone would
need to be subscribed to that group as well. . .a bit of a hassle but
not to hard to

Greetings and Introduction

Primo,

My great great grandfather Jose Manuel Cervantes
married Juana Maria Gonzales in 1835 in Zocoalco de
Torres.  The marriage record shows the parents of Jose
Manuel Cervantes as Rafael Cervantes and Marcelina
Diaz.  I should have looked at the marriage closer and
see what village they were from.  I also have a Seja
line in Zacoalco de Torres.  Have you come across any
Sejas in your genealogy?  By the way I am also in my
20's.  I am three years older then you.  I thought I
was the youngest guy, I guess you beat me.  Well I
will consider you a primo.  The municipio of Zacoalco
de Torres can't be that big.  I bet we are related for
sure.

Un Abrazo,
Angel

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Introducing Myself

Hi
Alice,
    As Steven mentioned, there are several of us who descend
from the Martin del Campo line.   Some in my family have used Martin
del Campo, Martin, Martinez, and also Campos.  Many of your other surnames
are also in my Jalos & San Juan families--Munoz(de la Barba)/de Nava
and  Padilla & Lozano specifically from San Juan, so I hope you won't
wait too long to share your research.  Please look over my lines, and let
me know if we have any commonality.
Thanks!
Irma
Gomez Gutierrez de Lucero
-----Original Message-----
From: alice wissing
[mailto:alice_wissing@...]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:16
PM
To: Ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Introducing Myself

Hello Everybody,

My name is Alice Wissing and I'm introducing
myself to the group. 
Before I say anything else, I want to tell
Steve Apodaca, another
newcomer, how fortunate he is to be in his early
20's and
researching his family.  I wish I had started at such a
young age,
as it has been

Greetings and Introduction

Hello Steve:
 
1. My research is focused more on my father's
side . . . Iglesias Family Tree from the state of Jalisco. The Iglesias family
are originally from the little towns of Guachinango, Atenguillo, and Ameca. I
noticed that you have Curiel as one of your surnames. My Iglesias family members
married a lot of Curiel's . . . just interested to see if there is a
connection.
 
2. I'm located in Southern California . . .
I'm not sure if you have any family members down here that are Tapia but I sure
do know some. . . I want to say that they are from Jalisco . . . They are very
tall and light skinned.
 
3. I also know an Apodaca
family.
 
Janet
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
sgapodaca
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:47
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Greetings and
Introduction

I was invited to this group by Joseph Puentes. I think it
is a great
idea to create a group not only focused in genealogy but in a

specific

Family History Centers: Was Zacatecas Films

Joseph, thank you so much for all the information



              ~~glo~~







From: Joseph Puentes 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Family History Centers: Was Zacatecas Films
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 00:32:23 -0500


go to www.familysearch.org

click on "Library"

then click on "Family History Centers"

the fill out the information for your location. Once you have found one
close to you GO there and pay them a visit. Show them the films you want to
order and order some for the time periods you think your relatives might
have been there. Note: these films in particular are for the capital city of
Zacatecas or Zacatecas, Zacatecas.


do a place search on www.familysearch.org and plug in Zacatecas. click on
the links and click on church records. then click on view films and you will
come up with a grand list like this for Zacatecas, Zacatecas:


Topic
Mexico, Zacatecas, Zacatecas - Church records

Titles

Registros

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Introducing Myself

Hello there,
 
My name is Steven Hernández.  A while back I posted some very good information regarding specifically the Martín del Campo family.  Do a quick search for them in the messages section of the Ranchos newsgroup.  You'll be pleasantly surprised and delighted.  Oh, and by the way, when you say "Mariano Leal" you are no doubt referring to Dr. Lic. Mariano González-Leal, of the families González de Rubalcava and Leal de Araujo.  Don Mariano is indeed a wealth of knowledge and information when it comes to Alteño genealogy.  He and I email practically every day.
 
By the sound of it, and your family connections, you and I are related, as I am also a Martín del Campo, Muñoz, Márquez, Padilla, Barba (Muñoz de la Barba), and a Lozano, among others.  Check out my family tree (The first 9 generations) in "Steven Hernández's stuff."
 
Sincerely,
Steven Francisco Hernández Gamiño y López de los Reyes
(aka Steven Francisco Hernández-López)

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