Nuestros Ranchos Site

Me too.

Thank you.

Alberto.
--- Peggy Delgado  wrote:

> Wow, I want that, too!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sgapodaca [mailto:sgapodaca@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:42 AM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: A Call For Batch
> Numbers/Digest/Cal Berkeley
> 
> 
> Can I have one of those, too, please?
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "glo
> Sandoval-Fuentes"
>  wrote:
> > Me too, I want a copy please, probably best to
> send it to my other
> email
> > which is:
> >
> > gfuentes@c...
> >
> > thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >                ~~glo~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Joseph Puentes 
> > Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: A Call For Batch
> Numbers/Digest/Cal
> Berkeley
> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:46:24 -0500
> >
> > cool!
> >
> > I definitely want a copy. . .wow, thanks
> >
> > joseph
> >
> >
> > mexicanfhr wrote:
>

Oiyes,

oiganme! Oiganme! OIGANME!!!

?que no entienden?  ?Que No Entienden?   ?QUE NO ENTIENDEN?

please change the subject heading to properly reflect the content of the message

. . .for this example something like: Tlachichila History-Was: New file uploaded to ranchos. that way in the future if we want to use the search engine to find a particular message in the archives we can look for it. . .otherwise we'll have a bunch with this "Re: New file uploaded to ranchos" as the subject and no clue what the topic was.

8^)

con cariño para todos. . bueno avecen cuando!,

joseph. . . .

ps: Alicia. . .perdon pero tu fuiste la lana

Can I have one of those, too, please?

Steve

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "glo Sandoval-Fuentes" 
 wrote:
> Me too, I want a copy please, probably best to send it to my other 
email 
> which is:
> 
> gfuentes@c...
> 
> thank you
> 
> 
> 
>                ~~glo~~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Joseph Puentes 
> Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: A Call For Batch Numbers/Digest/Cal 
Berkeley
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:46:24 -0500
> 
> cool!
> 
> I definitely want a copy. . .wow, thanks
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> mexicanfhr wrote:
> 
> >Joseph,
> >
> >I have copies of the Parish and Vital Records Index, for all of
> >Mexico.  Which lists about 90% of the batch numbers, for Mexico.  I
> >can send whoever would like a copy.  I have it, in a PDF format.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jonathan
> >
> >--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well I don't want to burden any one person

Me too, I want a copy please, probably best to send it to my other email
which is:

gfuentes@...

thank you



              ~~glo~~






From: Joseph Puentes 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: A Call For Batch Numbers/Digest/Cal Berkeley
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:46:24 -0500

cool!

I definitely want a copy. . .wow, thanks

joseph


mexicanfhr wrote:

Joseph,

I have copies of the Parish and Vital Records Index, for all of
Mexico.  Which lists about 90% of the batch numbers, for Mexico.  I
can send whoever would like a copy.  I have it, in a PDF format.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:

Well I don't want to burden any one person but how about your

particular

areas of research. . .aren't you doing Mazapil and Sombrerete?

I was hoping that if just a few of you all would do maybe just one slowly
that "File" in Ranchos2 would start to fill in.

thanks

The story of Mexico during the 1800's was a constant
fight among two factions: the "Federalistas" (who
seeked more freedom for states to govern themselves)
and the "Centralistas" (who wanted the power in Mexico
City having more control over the states). At one
point, Zacatecas stood as Federalista and Santa Anna's
"Centralista" government punished the state by taking
a chunk of the state and creating the tiny state of
Aguscalientes. 

This strong division during the 19th Century presented
a weaker Mexico to invasions (hence the two biggest
defeats of that time by the U.S. in the 1840's, where
we lost have of our territory and by France in the
1860's, where we had to suffer a european emperor,
Maximiliano, enforced by a french army, until Napoleon
(the III) recall the army and Maximiliano was
executed).

Guillermo Valdez


--- Alberto Duarte  wrote:

> A little bit of history....
> These two states are not only next to each other,
> Aguascalientes was once part of

cool!

I definitely want a copy. . .wow, thanks

joseph


mexicanfhr wrote:

Joseph,

I have copies of the Parish and Vital Records Index, for all of
Mexico.  Which lists about 90% of the batch numbers, for Mexico.  I
can send whoever would like a copy.  I have it, in a PDF format.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
  

Well I don't want to burden any one person but how about your
    

particular 
  

areas of research. . .aren't you doing Mazapil and Sombrerete?

I was hoping that if just a few of you all would do maybe just one 
slowly that "File" in Ranchos2 would start to fill in.

thanks,

Jonathan

ps: and thanks for the kind offer to the group.


mexicanfhr wrote:

    

Joseph,

Which batch numbers are you wanting? 

Also, if anyone needs a lookup at the Family History Library, in Salt
Lake, I usually am there once or twice a month.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Joseph,

I have copies of the Parish and Vital Records Index, for all of
Mexico.  Which lists about 90% of the batch numbers, for Mexico.  I
can send whoever would like a copy.  I have it, in a PDF format.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> Well I don't want to burden any one person but how about your
particular 
> areas of research. . .aren't you doing Mazapil and Sombrerete?
> 
> I was hoping that if just a few of you all would do maybe just one 
> slowly that "File" in Ranchos2 would start to fill in.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> ps: and thanks for the kind offer to the group.
> 
> 
> mexicanfhr wrote:
> 
> >Joseph,
> >
> >Which batch numbers are you wanting? 
> >
> >Also, if anyone needs a lookup at the Family History Library, in Salt
> >Lake, I usually am there once or twice a month.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jonathan
> >  
> >

Kitty,
I would suggest trying the program PAF Companion.  It offers more
reports that what PAF does, by itself.  

But, from what I understand that you want.  I would sugest just
printing a pedigree chart and printing the supporting family group
records.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Kitty Cortez"  wrote:
> Hi Jon
>  
> We are using PAF 5.2.  When we print we go to Reports and Charts, 
there we
> click on Ancestry and we don't get children listed.  If we click on
Books
> and use Ahnentafel (Ancestry) we also don't see children listed and
 there
> is no connection between generation.  It doesn't  mention who the
parents
> are, you have to go to the next generation up and guess who they
were.  This
> makes it hard since we have many lines with the same surname.  
> So we used Books, and clicked on Modified register Descendancy. 
This give
> us a report from our oldest ancestor to our most recent. and does
list all
> children and their connection.  But

http://www.jalpazacatecas.net/jalpa.html

I didn't know about this index until I went to the FHC. They have a 
link on their computers, so that saved me a lot of time.

Steve

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Lydia Corona  
wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In the January 2005 issue of Somos Primos, it is noted that a 
volunteer has indexed every Latin America film the Los Angeles LDS 
Family History Center has at it's location.That index can now be 
viewed on the internet.  Hopefully, this can help someone save a trip 
to Westwood. 
> 
> 
> The ftp: in the email is correct. 
ftp://66.159.208.204/latinfilms/home.html
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph Puentes  wrote:okay, so now the cat is out of 
the bag. In the Ranchos2 files [look under "members films"] area is a 
place where members can list their permanent films. I know that some 
of those films might not be exactly yours but if you could why not 
make a list of all the films you have "permanently" available via 
your family history center that have to do with Jalisco

Here's a link to an old map of Nuevo Reino de Granada:

http://bell.lib.umn.edu/historical/Laet.html


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Victor Villarreal"  
wrote:
> 
> Nuevo Reino de Granada was in South America.
> 
> If I remember correctly it would encompass what is now Colombia, 
etc.
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> > Hello Joseph:
> > 
> > Where is Nuevo Reino de Granada?  They are talking about New 
Spain, 
> right?
> >

Nuevo Reino de Granada was in South America.

If I remember correctly it would encompass what is now Colombia, etc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Hello Joseph:
> 
> Where is Nuevo Reino de Granada?  They are talking about New Spain, 
right?
> 

Hello:



Okay; if it is from Seville then it is the horses mouth!



This is what I have:

     #2350, Villarreal, J [Juan] de, hvv [hijo de vecinos] a Ind [Indias] 13 (I, 1462) [Al  [Alonso] Mtn [Martin], Leo [Leonor la Rica]



This is from "Indice Geobiografico de Cuarenta Mil Pobladores Españoles de America en el Siglo XVI, " Tomo I, 1493-1519, by Peter Boyd-Bowman.



Mickey

Hello Joseph:





Well, I was typing and typing some Puentes for you and hit the wrong button!!



I will list some names in the last book...Vol. VI  1578-1585



All de la Puentes; Alonso; Ana;, Catalina; Diego Lopez de la; Fabian;

Francisco; Juan; Juana; and Martin



For Juana:  it reads as follows:

4.956 Pedro Romero, natural de Ayamonte, hijo de Martin de Escobar y de Ines Lopez, con su mujer Juana de la Puente, natural de Madrid, hija de Juana de la Puente y de Maria Gonzalez, al Nuevo Reino de Granada, com criado del licenciado (Alonso Lopez de) Salazar, 20 marzo 1582.



Where is Nuevo Reino de Granada?  They are talking about New Spain, right?



I am in the 1600' on some lines but not in the earlier years., however, I am glad I bought the books.  They were purchased from the "Ministerio  de Cultura".  It would be interesting to find out if they are still available.  Vol VI was published in 1986.  At the time I purchased the books the office was on Gran Villa street....it has been a few

For example, the following is the data found for one of the 
passengers in the "Catálogo de Pasajeros a Indias":

Archivo  Archivo General de Indias   

Código de Referencia  ES.41091.AGI/16419//PASAJEROS,L.1,E.1462  

Título  JUAN DE VILLARREAL  

Alcance y Contenido  JUAN DE VILLARREAL, hijo de Alonso Martín y de 
Leonor la Rica, vecinos de San Martín de Valdeiglesias.  
 
Nivel de Descripción  Unidad Documental Simple  
 
Fecha(s)   [c] 1513-09-02  
 
Signatura(s)   PASAJEROS,L.1,E.1462  
 
Volumen    
 
Productor(es)      Información de Contexto  
 
Unidades Relacionadas 
 
Por Procedencia  CONTRATACION,5536,L.1,F.308 
 
Índice(s)  Martín, Alonso
Villarreal, Juan de
Rica, Leonor la
San Martín de Valdeiglesias (Madrid)
 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I haven't seen the site.  I will check it out.
> 
> Mickey

Hello:



How much did they cost.  I do not remember but they were cheap.  I brought back a set for myself and my friend.  I took an extra suitcase for books.

I will look up the Puentes for you.  And, yes it is early.  And yes, it would be harder to start from Adam!



Mickey

Hello:



I haven't seen the site.  I will check it out.



Mickey