Nuestros Ranchos Site

Joseph:



I went to Sevilla and also went to the Archivo.  You just do not walk in.  You need letters, pictures.....then you will get a card which will allow you in....

I was looking for census records....they were in the Guadalajara Archives.....they can be obtained in Mexico City....I got the 1777 Durango Census from Archivo de las Indias....



Mickey

Mr. Serrros,

I used to know a Bobby Serros (PhD, worked in Northridge CSU) and his brother George.  Are you by any chance related?  I grew up in Oxnard, CA.

David Delgado

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Serros 
Sent: Mar 1, 2005 9:16 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Poll results for ranchos

I totally agree with Mr. Duarte. I understand the importance of
documentation but I believe for our purposes that communication is of utmost
importance, all things considered---availability of computers and software,
as well as understanding of genealogy procedures.

Those that have learned to search and document can teach those who follow.
We need more people, not less.

Respectfully,

Edward Serros


On 3/1/05 7:20 PM, "Alberto Duarte"  wrote:

> Less strict.
> 
> I believe we could get more members, and more
> information, if we were less strict on membership.
> 
> Alberto.
> 
> --- Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
>> > well the

I totally agree with Mr. Duarte. I understand the importance of documentation but I believe for our purposes that communication is of utmost importance, all things considered---availability of computers and software, as well as understanding of genealogy procedures.



Those that have learned to search and document can teach those who follow. We need more people, not less.



Respectfully,



Edward Serros





On 3/1/05 7:20 PM, "Alberto Duarte" wrote:

Less strict.



I believe we could get more members, and more

information, if we were less strict on membership.



Alberto.



--- Joseph Puentes wrote:



> well the percentage of members needed to make this a

> valid vote didn't

> vote so I'm leaving things as they are. maybe next

> year I'll do another

> poll and see if the group opinion is strong enough

> to influence enough

> members to vote one way or another.

>

> joseph

>

> ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>

>

Less strict.

I believe we could get more members, and more
information, if we were less strict on membership.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> well the percentage of members needed to make this a
> valid vote didn't 
> vote so I'm leaving things as they are. maybe next
> year I'll do another 
> poll and see if the group opinion is strong enough
> to influence enough 
> members to vote one way or another.
> 
> joseph
> 
> ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> >The following ranchos poll is now closed.  Here are
> the 
> >final results: 
> >
> >
> >POLL QUESTION: You can only vote if you have
> already
> >submitted your genealogy, but even if
> >you haven't you can still influence by
> >giving your opinion via an email to the
> >group (freedom of speech).
> >
> >Question: Should the requirements for
> >being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
> >(have your genealogy in hand to submit
> >before being accepted into the group);
> >the same as now; or less Strict?
> > 
> >I

a cousin of mine told me his parents are in Spain on vacation and if I
could think of any family history sources they could pick up in Madrid
or Barcelona. I told him to have them swing by Sevilla to the Archivo de
Indias to get me some Padrones from the Jerez/Colotlan area that are in
that Archive.

So I'm wondering do any of you all know of any archives in Madrid or
Barcelona that possibly would have information on Mexico? I'm sure there
are a lot of sources but I'm so lacking for that specific knowledge I'm
coming to you.

thanks,

joseph

Hey Joseph, I would say I am almost a huerfano. Another member, Angel 
Cervantes, and I both have Cervantes ancestors from Zacoalco, 
Jalisco, but it doesn't appear to be a connection, at least back to 
the 1700's. I saw one group member researching her ancestors from 
Atenguillo/Guachinango/Mascota. My Curiel line is from that area, but 
unfortunately (or I'd say fortunately), there's lots of Curiel 
families in that region.

Other than Angel, and the other member whose name I don't recall, I 
am a huerfano. You see, most of my ancestors are from the southern 
municipios of Jalisco: Tlajomulco, Chapala, Zacoalco, Techaluta, 
Sayula, Amacueca. One line, as I said, is from Atenguillo(If you 
don't know where this is, it is close to Talpa, where many people 
visit la virgen). I noticed that almost everybody on this group 
researching Jalisco is focused on los Altos. So far, I have only one 
line of ancestors from los Altos (Lagos), but haven't researched a 
lot on this line.

On the

well the percentage of members needed to make this a valid vote didn't
vote so I'm leaving things as they are. maybe next year I'll do another
poll and see if the group opinion is strong enough to influence enough
members to vote one way or another.

joseph

ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:

The following ranchos poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:

POLL QUESTION: You can only vote if you have already
submitted your genealogy, but even if
you haven't you can still influence by
giving your opinion via an email to the
group (freedom of speech).

Question: Should the requirements for
being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
(have your genealogy in hand to submit
before being accepted into the group);
the same as now; or less Strict?

I will not change anything unless 75% of
the permanent members vote and if I get
60% of those voting to vote for one of

the choices.

CHOICES AND RESULTS

- More Strict, 9 votes, 45.00%
- The Same, 8 votes, 40.00%
- Less Strict, 3

The following ranchos poll is now closed.  Here are the 
final results: 


POLL QUESTION: You can only vote if you have already
submitted your genealogy, but even if
you haven't you can still influence by
giving your opinion via an email to the
group (freedom of speech).

Question: Should the requirements for
being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
(have your genealogy in hand to submit
before being accepted into the group);
the same as now; or less Strict?
 
I will not change anything unless 75% of
the permanent members vote and if I get
60% of those voting to vote for one of
the choices.  

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- More Strict, 9 votes, 45.00%  
- The Same, 8 votes, 40.00%  
- Less Strict, 3 votes, 15.00%  
- Other, 0 votes, 0.00%  



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Are there any Huerfanos in the group. . .are there any orphans that
don't have others members researching the same general area as you are
researching in Jalisco, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes? Well if you want to
invite researchers to Ranchos that are researching your specific area
let me know and I'll give you ideas.

I just went to rootsweb and did a geneal search of all the message
boards for those that are researching the Valparaiso, Zacatecas area. I
searched the first 26 pages and found 15 individuals. I then typed their
names into an email and send them an invitation to consider joining the
group. naturally if they are not serious researchers I won't let them
into the group. Of those 15 email addresses 4 were invalid, but lets see
if maybe 1 or 2 of the others might not find a serious researcher.

I said all that only to say that if you are the only one looking in your
area that is a way to find others to join you in your search. . .spend
some time on rootsweb

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Lorenzo Cuesta (quijote1945@...)/Ortiz, Cajero, Donlucas, Borroel, Luis 
  Uploaded by : makas_nc  
  Description : Valencia, Santillan, Sanchez, Quirarte, Sandoval, Pedroza, and Martinez   

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Regards,

makas_nc 
 

My name is Lorenzo Cuesta.  

I was born and raised in Southern Texas (Laredo), but for the past 30 
years I have lived in Sacramento, California.  I have done most of my 
research through the Family History Center films and their website 
databases.  

Though the Cuesta side of my family came from Real del Catorce, SLP 
and Monterrrey N.L., most of my ancestors come from the Zacatecas and 
Jalisco area.  

I am researching the following surnames from Nochistlan, Zacatecas: 
Ortiz, Cajero, Donlucas, Borroel, and Luis.  To a lesser degree, I 
also have ancestors from Nochistlan with the following surnames: 
Valencia, Santillan, Sanchez, Quirarte, Sandoval, Pedroza, and 
Martinez.  

Some of these ancestores come from the surrounding areas: 
Tepechitlan, Zac; Duranes, Zac; Ayo El Chico, Jal; and Yahualica, Jal.

Most of the family group information that I have compiled, can be 
accessed from my rootsweb pages: 
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cuesta/cuestach2.html

I look

Evie, Ameca in Jalisco and Amecameca in Estado de
Mexico are 2 very different locations. Most likely,
you should be looking for Ameca, Jalisco. The names,
though similar, represent to different places in 2
different states.

Guillermo Valdez


--- evievillegas  wrote:

> 
> Became stuck looking for birth record of Juan
> Florencio Villegas who, 
> according to his 1759 marriage record, was born in
> Ameca.  It was always my 
> assumption that meant Ameca, Jalisco since he was
> married in Colotlan 
> Jalisco.  However, I now notice records of Ameca,
> Edo and there is always 
> Amecameca.  How can I find out where immigrants to
> Colotlan usually came 
> from in the early 1700's? Possibly the State of
> Mexico? Thanks. Evie
> 
> 
> 
> 


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I've added some links to Universities in Jalisco (mostly), Zacatecas
(need some help here), and Aguascalientes (need help here also)

have a look in the links under "Universities."

joseph

no list but if you go to the files you will find the members genealogies
and under the description you will see the major locations and surnames.
. .I would concentrated on the locations. Not a whole lot there from
Valparaiso, but there are at least two other members of the group
researching the area.

thanks,

joseph

ps: I used to live in Northern Baltimore County for 18 years before
moving to NC in 1998. I know what you're going through weather wise.

Natalie wrote:

Is there a master Surname list for the Ranchos group? Or a master
Place-name list? As I am fairly new to this group I haven't figured
out all the ins-and-outs of getting through all the information, so
don't know if I have overlooked that bit of information. Thank you all
for your inspiring hard work. I have ordered film - and if it stops
snowing I'll go over to the local FHC to review them (the film came in
this week, it snowed Thurs., so they were closed Thurs.& Fri -
bummer). FYI: it is film #1164736 -

Became stuck looking for birth record of Juan Florencio Villegas who, 
according to his 1759 marriage record, was born in Ameca.  It was always my 
assumption that meant Ameca, Jalisco since he was married in Colotlan 
Jalisco.  However, I now notice records of Ameca, Edo and there is always 
Amecameca.  How can I find out where immigrants to Colotlan usually came 
from in the early 1700's? Possibly the State of Mexico? Thanks. Evie