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Hello,

Does anyone have the following book?
I have been trying to find the following book. I know that the author was himself selling the book, I was in the process of buying it but I lost contact with the author. If anyone has the book, please look if any information appears for PRIETO GALLARDO. Thank you

Aspirantes al Sacerdocio en el Obispado de Nueva Galicia. Sus genealogías ascendentes.

Bibliotecas y Archivos Colonial Libro
Autor o Editor:
Francisco Javier de Castaños y Cañedo
Época de interés:
Colonial
Editorial:
Editográfica Guadalajara, México

susana leniski

I found this 3 page document which mentions "La Provincia de Texas of Nueva Espana (Mexico)." Year 1692.

That is the earliest I have seen the existence of Texas as a Province of Nueva Espana (Mexico) being mentioned. Supposeldy, Texas would be under the political jurisdiccion of "Real Audencia Government of Guadalajara, Jalisco (Nuevo Galicia), Mexico (Nueva Espana) and also under the Catholic Religious Order of the Bishop of Guadalajara, Jalisco Mexico.

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

Reference No. MEXICO,66,R.2,N.2

Antes que nada quiero presentarme ya que este es mi primer hilo, es un gusto estar aquí y espero poder compartir todo lo que pueda.

Dentro de mi investigación por la rama de los Garibay he llegado a un punto donde no he podido ir mas allá.

Espero y alguien pueda tener alguna dato o información del siguiente enlace matrimonio.

Rafael Garibay casado do Maria Ygnacia Gutierrez

(Hijo)-Francisco Garibay Gutierrez(nacido probablemente en 1804 en Zamora) casado con Maria Rosalia Garibay Estevez de la Mora (nacida en Cuquio alrededor de 1810)

De ahí para bajo tengo completada la descendencia pero no encuentro nada hacia arriba, las únicas pistas del nombre de los padres (Rafael Garibay casado do Maria Ygnacia Gutierrez) es por el registro de matrimonio entre Francisco Garibay Gutierrez y Rosalia Estevez de la Mora los cuales se casaron en Guadalajara 12 de Julio de 1827

Ya he buscado en los registros de bautizo (familysearch) de Zamora desde 1800 hasta 1806 y nada.

Hola,

Estoy buscando la fuente documental para conectar a Mariana de Quero (esposa de Gabriel Gonzalez) con Sebastian de (a)Quero y Ana (Isabel) Rojas (matrimonio 6-Nov 1619 Zacatecas, Zac). Ya encontre varios arboles en linea que indican que Mariana era hija de Sebastian; pero desgraciadamente ninguno de ellos indica la fuente documental que se utilizo para indicar que Mariana era hija de Sebastian.

Gracias de antemano

Susana

Hello,

I 'm looking for the documentary source of Mariana Quero ( Wife of Gabriel Gonzalez ) to connect her with Sebastian ( a)Quero and Ana ( Isabel ) Rojas ( marriage on November 6, 1619 in Zacatecas , Zac ) .I found several online trees that include information about them ; But unfortunately none of them indicates the documentary source that was used to indicate that Mariana was the daughter of Sebastian and Ana.

Thanks in advance

Susana

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm lookin at my ancestor Catarina de Mendoza baptism

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68J3-HHZ

and it says her padrino was Thomas de Villalobos who is her grandfather and
I was wondering if most padrinos are grandparents and relatives or can they
be anyone

Danny C. Alonso

Phelipe Marquez de los Olivos and his wife Francisca Xaviera Sanchez are the ancestors of many families associated with Colotlan. I have had trouble tracing any solid ancestry for them, but I have accumulated some possibilities. I am hoping that by presenting them here, other researchers may be able to present other sources that may help confirm or refute these possibilities.

Phelipe Marquez de los Olivos’s father was a Joseph Marquez de los Olivos as shown by the following dispensa:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-57020-88?cc=1874591&wc…

This Joseph Marquez de los Olivos also appears in Holcombe’s notes page 174-175:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6invajbk0zzo4jm/Letters%20Edited%20for%20Dist…

“…Joseph Márquez de los Olivos is in the following “órden sacerdotal”:

Pedro Félix Bonilla rendered information in Zacatecas and Colotlán in 1779. Born in Colotlán 26 February 1743 his legitimate parents were Francisco Tadeo Bonilla and María Manuela Márquez de los Olivos (+). Paternal Grandparents: Salvador Bonilla and Rosa Saldaña. Maternal Grandparents: Felipe Márquez and Francisca Xaviera Sánchez, natives of Zacatecas. Paternal maternal Great Grandparents: Joseph Márquez de los Olivos and Gertrudis Rincón Berrótegui. Maternal-maternal Great Grandparents: Bartolomé Sánchez and Josepha Cabañas.”

Does anyone know how to look up the original “órden sacerdotal” document that Holcombe refers to here?

I know nothing more about Bartolome Sanchez and Josepha Cabanas, but a marriage record of Joseph Marquez de los Olivos and Gertrudis Rincon does exist as found here:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18622-37615-36?cc=1874591&wc…

It shows that Joseph Marquez de los Olivos was a natural son of Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos and Luisa de Figueroa. Apart from his natural son, Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos was legitimately married to Maria Rincon widow of Capitan Joseph Martin Gallardo.

This is confirmed in the book:
La hacienda "Ciénega de Mata" de los Rincón Gallardo: un modelo excepcional de latifundio novohispano durante los siglos XVII y XVIII, by José Fernando Alcaide Aguilar, 2004.
Pages 66, 226, and 470.

An interesting note on page 470: footnote number 488 at the bottom of the page shows Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos becoming Alguacil Mayor de Juchipila and mentions him as the brother of a Diego Marquez de los Olivos. The record that footnote number 488 is referring to can be referenced at:

1. http://pares.mcu.es/
2. click on the tab labeled “Busqueda Sencilla,”
3. where it says “Buscar” type in “Miguel Marquez de los Olivos”
4. click Audiencia de Guadalajara
5. click CONFIRMACION DE OFICIO: MIGUEL MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS
6. click “Ver imagenes”

The problem is that I am not able to find where it mentions Diego Marquez de los Olivos.

In any event, the only Diego Marquez de los Olivos that I know of who fits this time period would be the Diego Marquez de los Olivos (1617-1672) who was the son of a Joseph Marquez de los Olivos and a Maria de Ornelas. Could this also mean that Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos is their son?

Holcombe only offers one clue to the parentage of Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos
In Holcombe’s letters page 174-175:

“He [referring to Capitan Miguel Márquez de los Olivos] was from Juchipila or Jalpa and a natural son of Captain X Márquez de los Olivos -- don’t recall the details.”

I wish he had recalled the details and I wish I knew what source he extracted this information from. Could this mean that (Capitan?) Joseph Marquez de los Olivos married Maria de Ornelas and had Diego Marquez de los Olivos, but also had a natural son Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos. Has anyone seen evidence of Joseph (husband of Maria de Ornelas) ever being a “Capitan”?

Anything further back becomes extremely sketchy. Holcombe only offers two possibilities to the parentage of Joseph Marquez de los Olivos (husband of Maria de Ornelas):

1. Holcombe’s letters Page 91:
“In the same volume of marriages from the Sagrario(Cathedral) parish in Mexico City (not microfilmed) … is this matrimony:

Entry No. 140: 2 July 1570. Joseph Márquez, a son of Joseph Márquez and Luisa de Acosta, and María de Lerma, daughter of Diego Hurtado and María de Lerma.. “Testigos fueron el Sr. canónigo García Machuca, sedero y Cristóbal Rodríguez Proaño.” Could be the parents of you know-who [referring to Joseph Marquez de los Olivos (husband of Maria de Ornelas)]. Suggest you see if pasajeros a Indias data for the parents of both is in the digests and look for christenings of the married couple’s children in the Sagrario, to see if they had a son Joseph (he’d be the third in a row). [If] … not in the Sagrario, try the Santa Veracruz parish.”

2. Holcombe’s letters Page 170:
“He [referring to Joseph Marquez de los Olivos (husband of Maria de Ornelas)] might have been related to somewhat older Lorenzo Márquez, the husband as of c.1602 of Beatriz López, daughter of Beatriz López de Fuenllana. They disappear from Lagos after 1610. Lorenzo could have founded Sauz de los Márquez and Joseph followed him to the hacienda on the Northern frontier. Look for Lorenzo as well as Joseph in the Tierras y Aguas records. What if Lorenzo married 2nd to Beatriz López and Joseph was a son from the first wife? In Ojocaliente some baptisms and marriages have been found in the 1650s. There’s not a lot, but it’s better than nothing. Photocopies will be obtained for the Historical Archives. They’re obviously not microfilmed.”

As for the previously mentioned Gertrudis Rincon:
The marriage record of Joseph Marquez de los Olivos and Gertrudis Rincon does not mention her parents. There is no corresponding info. mat. record for this marriage in Cienega. Oddly, there is an info. mat. for this marriage in Aguacalientes found here:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11771-153248-89?cc=1502404…

Originaly I thought that Gertrudis Rincon would turn up being the daughter of Capitan Nicolas Martin Gallardo and Juana Rincon de Ortega, and a granddaughter of Capitan Juan Rincon de Vivar. This is not the case. The Aguacalientes info. mat. does not name her parents but names Capitan Juan Rincon de Vivar as her uncle. Presumably, one of his siblings is one of Gertrudis Rincon’s parents. The problem is that Capitan Juan Rincon de Vivar’s siblings all had statuses that were not indicative to having children. That I know of, they are: Agustin (considered to have no descendants), Pedro (a priest), Francisco (who died as a child), Maria (went into a convent), and Elena (also went into a convent). This leads me to think that she may have been a natural daughter of one of them, but which one? Her age is given as 15 in the info. mat. which gives her a birth year of about 1656. Maria and Elena would have been aged 47 and 43 in 1656; a little old to be having natural children but not impossible. It would be more possible for older men to sire natural children. I don’t know if Agustin was alive in 1656 but Pedro was.

Does anyone have any other information that might clear this up?

I would appreciate any opinions or additional sources that may confirm or refute the possibilities presented here.

Regards,

David

I'm trying to find the parents of Petrona de Sotomayor, the wife of
Bernardo Garcia de Leon, does anyone in the group know if Petrona de
Sotomayor that married Alvaro Marin de Peñalosa is the same Petrona de
Sotomayor that married Bernardo Garcia de Leon?

Paige

Hello rduni

I dont really speak spanish that well but I'm taking it in school but it
looks like your looking for information on the above couple and theres a
marriage for a Juan Jose Hernandes and Benedicta Bustos on June 12 1839.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZKM-48R

There's also baptism and it has the grandparents who are Manuel Hernandes
and MAriana Hernandes and hers are Josemaria Bustos and Luisa Hernandes

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NY96-TBB

Danny C. Alonso

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I was reading the letters that Armando shared in the Dropbox and came across this part about the 1610 Census that talks about a María Rubio that married a Mr. Burgueño and then on number 6. it says a no name daughter married Diego Pérez and i wanted to know since the letters were wrote a long time ago if the no name daughter is now known because i think these people are probably the ancestors of my ancestor Sebastián Pérez who has a sister name María Burgueño

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pérez-521

The 1610 Lagos Census brings forth additional information on the López Ramírez and Macías Valadés lines. The three witnesses that name the inhabitants cite “María Rubio, viuda, sus yernos (sons-in-law) Luis López, Diego Pérez, Bartolomé Martín y Juan López de Liçardi; su hijo de más de 17 años, Francisco González.”
María Rubio married a Mr. Burgueño and these were her now known offspring:
3. María Burgueño, married to Juan López de Elizalde y Becerra, a son of Juan López de Elizalde y Aberruza and Leonor Becerra y Sánchez de Mendoza. She died in Lagos 12 Dec 1638.
4. Catalina Rubio married Luis López Ramírez, whom you know.
5. Ana Burgueño wed Bartolomé Martín. Have a christening on their child 27 Mar 1619.
6. A daughter N.N. married Diego Pérez, who died 12 July 1629. A son, Juan Pérez, is named.
7. Francisco González, born c. 1592.

Danny C. Alonso

Me gustaria saber si alguen es descendiente de

1. Juan Jose Hernandez Hernandez que
nacio posiblemente en 1814, Arandas, Jalisco.
y

2. Benedicta Bustos Hernandez que
nacio posiblemente en 1823, Arandas, Jalisco

Me gustaria localizar la fecha de su bautizo y
fallecimiento.

Mi abuela paterna era su hija Anastasia Bustos Hernandez
(1858-1916)

Gracias,

Juchipila
(Archivo general de Indias, Guadalajara, 43,N 30) imagen 32/32)
Transcripcion textual por Dr. Moises Beutelspacher Huizar 10 /Enero 2016)
En cumpimiento de dicho remate y auto de aprobación, parece que la parte del dicho Capitan Miguel Marquez, enteró en mi Real caxa de esta mi corte, los dichos quinientos y cincuenta pesos de oro común en Reales, en que se remató el dicho Oficio, con mas lo que importó el derecho de la media anatta, como consta por certificar a mis jueces oficiales reales de ella, cuyo tenor es como se sigue = En la ciudad de Guadalaxara a cinco de Febrero de Mil y seicientos y sesenta años, se hace cargo al Sr General Don Diego de Salazar, de dichos quinientos y cincuenta pesos de oro común en Reales, que es la parte del Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos, en quien en la real almoneda que se hizo en veintisiete de Henero pasado de este presente año. Se remato el Oficio de Alguacil Mayor de la Provincia de Juchipilas, en dichos quiniento y cincuenta pesos en Reales pagados de contado, Enteró en esta real caxa según parece en billetes de Diego Perez de Rivera, se publicó R y de cabildo (en certificación) de lo cual dimos la presente dicho dia mes y año, dicho Don Diego de Salazar = Don Diego de la Rocha certificó a los juez privatico del Derecho de la mediana anatta, como en la Almoneda Real que se hizo el dia veintisiete de este presente mes de Henero como en el mejor y mayor Ponedor (postor).
Se remato en el Capitan Miguel Marquez de los Olivos el Oficio de Alguacil Mayor de la Provincia de Juchipila en quinientos y cincuenta pesos de oro común en Reales de contado.

* (La Anata es un antiguo impuesto colonial español instaurado por real cédula el 22 de mayo de 1631. Generalmente el impuesto no se aplicaba en su totalidad, sino que satisfacía la mitad de la renta del primer año. Es por esta razón por lo que se suele denominar a este impuesto como media anata, aunque se pueden encontrar casos en los que se cobraron anatas completas.cabe recordar que esta se cobraba por el uso de los títulos nobiliarios., fuente google)

I have just uploaded an index to Aguascalientes Matrimonial Investigation films 299573-299575. The link is http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014

These films, according to the Family Search catalog, cover 1731-32, 1733-34, and 1735-36 respectively. However, film 299574 also includes the matrimonial investigations for the period 1735-58; this later group is primarily for indians.

The pdf is searchable, but please keep in mind the typical spelling variations of the period.

The matrimonial investigations are not in chronological order, but are presented in the order they are given in the digitized films.

These films were re-posted while I was creating the index. I believe I've corrected all the image numbers, but if you cannot find a particular digitized image look a few pages past the indicated image number.

There are about 940 records in this group.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Hola
alguien sabe quienes son los padres de cristobal ruis de esparza
y de antonia de alvarado?
hay algunas publicacines donde mencionan que ls padres de ambos
son bernardo ruis de esparza y catalina losano
y luis de alvarado y betris lopes elizalde.
exite algun documento donde puedo comprobar que efectivamente son ellos
los padres de cristobal y de antonia?
saludos

I am looking at the defunto records in familysearch.org of Huejuquilla El Alto of Jalisco, Mexico years 1720 - 1761. I found a couple of interesting people:

1. Theniente Capitan Protector in year 1727, on pg.10 by the name of "Don Juan Sebastian De ? (Can't make out the last name):

http://oi64.tinypic.com/jg6zyu.jpg

2. Antonio Garcia, "indio" who was the "Alcalde Actual" of Huejuquilla. Says he passed away due to "Ladrones."

http://oi66.tinypic.com/30vdqw4.jpg

This will be a study of Historical events of the Sephardic (Spanish) Jews who were brought over from Spain to the Americas and Mexico territory to escape Genocide. many of our Hispanic Ancestors have been linked with the Jewish people through Blood DNA Testing and Historical facts. I will include a website with names that have been linked with the Sephardic Jew and books which include much study and Historical information. I can be contacted at tennasalas@msn.com

Thank you,

Tenna Salas

Hi every body,

I am looking for any information about Jacobo Ugarte y Loyola, more specifically about his testament, he past away on august the 18th, 1798 o 1799 in Guadalajara, Jalisco. He was Guadalajara´s Intendent/President from 1791 to 1798 or 1799.

Greetings,

Hola a todos,

Estoy tratando de localizar toda la información posible acerca de Jacobo Ugarte y Loyola, sobre todo quisiera saber acerca de su testamento. El murió el 18 de agosto de 1798 en Guadalajara, Jalisco. El fue Intendente/Presidente de Guadalajara desde 1791 hasta su muerte en 1798 o 1799.

Ssaludos y gracias

I know I have seen references to those families from Los Altos that are known to have Jewish roots, but am having difficulty locating them in the archives. Would someone please assist me?

My father's ftdna population finder shows him as 31% Middle Eastern (Jewish,Palestinian, Bedouin). He has some family finder distant matches with people with only Jewish surnames and Eastern European roots. I'm wondering if anyone else in the group is having the same experience?

I was also stunned to notice that one of the matches is also a distant match for my husband, who is of Eastern European Jewish ancestry. (We suspect, based on my husband's ydna matches, that that line might have been part of the exodus from Iberia during the Expulsion of 1492.)

Thanks for any assistance or response.

Raquel Ruiz

Does anyone have more info on him or descend from this family. His was the son of the proignitor of the anda Surname in los Altos. I dont know who his father was though. He was born ca. 1565 en Guadalajara and married to Beatriz Gonzales de Castaneda. I dont have any info on their marriage. Their son Juan de Anda is my 11th Grt Gf. I think this is where it ends but will still try. I was trying to get on PARES website but it wont let me for some reason. Does anyone know more of the ANDA family? -Daniel

I found a marriage dispensation record (023 Benito Guzman & Juana Maria Rodarte / Jerez) in the late 1750s which has some information about Diego Pinedo. My Spanish isn't the greatest, but I think it indicates that Diego Pinedo was married twice as follows:
Diego Pinedo m. Maria Anna de Esquivel (1st marriage)--Maria Anna de Pinedo m. Miguel de Avila----Antonia de Avila m. Nicolas Mexia------Magdalena Mexia m. Gregorio Rodriguez--------Maria de la Encarnacion Rodriguez m. Benito Guzman
Diego Pinedo m. Gertrudis de Castaneda (2nd marriage) --Maria Antonia de Pinedo  m. Diego Rodarte----Cayetano Rodarte m. Maria de la Rosa Longoria ------Diego Rodarte m. Agustina Vallejo--------Juana Maria Rodarte m. Benito Guzman
Here's the link to the dispensa: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-66SY-2P?i=22&wc=3J49-829%3…
So I have a few questions I'm trying to clarify:
1. Is Diego Pinedo's 2d wife Gertrudis de Castaneda the same person as Gertrudis de Avila?
2. Has anyone found a documented connection between Diego Pinedo and Rodrigo Pinedo?
3.From what I could tell based on several other dispensas I've been reviewing, I think this Diego Pinedo had several children as follows:
Diego Pinedo m. Maria Anna de Esquivel (1st marriage)
a. Joseph Pinedo m. Maria de Olague b. Luis Pinedo (b. 17 Sep 1696, Jerez, Zac)c. Josefa Pinedod. Maria de la Candelaria Pinedo (b. 17 Feb 1699, Jerez, Zac)e. Maria Anna de Pinedo  
Diego Pinedo m. Gertrudis de Castaneda (or de Avila) (2nd marriage)a. Maria Antonia Pinedob. Baltazar Pinedoc. Lorenzo Pinedo
For anyone researching Pinedo lineages in Jerez, does this square with your findings? 
There's a lot of good stuff in the dispensas! (Also an FYI: there's a dispensa that discusses Rodrigo de Pinedo for anyone interested. It was in the dispensa for 086 pedro tadeo reynedo & antonia gonzalez / jerez for 1733-1734 at http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2011/12/1733-1734-fhl-source-film-1…. The groom's name is misspelled; it's "Pynedo" or "Pinedo" not Reynedo). 
Chris Pineda

Hi all--
Does anyone know who the parents of Gertrudis Díaz de León are? She married Juan Álvarez-Tostado circa 1708 either in Teocaltiche or Nochistlan. I am her descendent via her daughter Ana Álvarez-Tostado who married Miguel Antonio Márquez de los Olivos in 1751, Jalostotitlan.

Any leads will be appreciated. Thanks!

  RESEARCHING ANY THING ON JUAN MARTIN TORRES , I CAME ACROSS ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS MARIA ANGEL.THE RECORD IS IN ENCARNCION DE DIAZ JALISCO BAUTISMOS 1778-1802 IMAGE 132. SHE WAS BAPTIZED 2 NOV 1783. WHAT MY PROBLEM IS THAT I CANNOT MAKE OUT THE PLACE THEY ARE FROM . OOKS LIKE ST ANITA BUT I DON'T KNOW.ANY SUGGESTONS AS TO WHERE IT IS. THANKING YOU IN ADVANCE  JOSE TORRES(EMAIL  HERJOE59@YAHOO.COM)

Some details of the mother of Padre Miguel HIDALGO...

! Birth...nacio en Jururemba, Michoacan en 1731 said the Enciclopedia
de Mexico, Tomo VI, page 3114. It also said that she was an espanola,
hija de padre y madre espanolas.
Marriage...en 1750 con Cristobal HIDALGO Y Costilla said the
Enciclopedia de Mexico.
Death...murio en la hacienda de Corralejo, Gto., en 1762, said the
Enciclopedia de Mexico.

En Mexico, el apellido GALLAGA tuvo especial importancia, ya que le
correspondia al Cura Hidalgo, por su linea materna.
Los padres, de Ana Maria, tuvieron unicamente una hija. Ella
originaria del rancho de Jururemba, de donde fue llevada al pueblo
de Huaniquero, hoy Villa Morelos, recibiendo alli las aguas del
bautismo.**

Habiendo quedado huerfana, Ana Maria, la recogieron sus abuelos
maternos, y por muerte de estas su tio carnal Don Manuel Mateo
GALLAGA Mandarte, Administrador del rancho de San Vicente del Cano,
perteneciente a la Hacienda de San Diego del Corralejo.**

La senora Ana Maria, celebro esponsales con Don Cristobal HIDALGO Y
Costilla. Ellos procrearon entre otros hijos a Don Miguel HIDALGO y
Costilla, parroco de Dolores, e iniciador de la Independencia de
Mexico.**

**BLASONES Y APELLIDOS

--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Ricci, Richard wrote:

> From: Ricci, Richard
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:54 AM
> The descent from Jn carlo D. Lomelin, if I remember
> correctly is that his daughter from Maria Benavides Ramos is
> named maria lomelin.
> Maria Lomelin and Nicolas perez Contreras have a child by
> the name of juana contreras who married Pedro Gallaga
> Mandarte. They were the parents of Juan Fernando Gallaga
> Mandarte the maternal grandfather of miguel hidalgo
> costilla's mother.
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf
> of Ricci, Richard
> Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 8:39 AM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
>
>
>
> Joseph (Guiseppe) Luis Lomelin, brother to Jn.Carlo Domingo
> Lomelin, was married Maria del Olmo
> Joseph Luis Lomelin and Maria del Olmo were the parents of
> Maria Lomelin del Olmo
> Maria Lomelin del Olmo and Juan de Viilasenor Reus y Patino
> Peirerea were the parents of Pedro Viilasenor
> Just recently somone posted a genealogy showing the
> relationship among the leaders of the revolution. You can
> follow the rest of the line there to Miguel Hidalgo
> Costilla. There are lots of genealogies, some from well
> known genealogist, purporting to show his family tree. They
> have some mistakes but there is a reason for those mistakes
> because of circumstances. I have the documentation showing
> how it was an uncle or grandparent raising the child due to
> early deaths.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf
> of patricia burton
> Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 5:06 AM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
>
>
>
> To Richard R.--
>
> My husband has OLMOS in his family tree. His OLMOS are
> from the Ayo el Chico area. Can you be more specific with
> your Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS details?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patricia BURTON
> San Diego, Ca.
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Ricci, Richard
> wrote:
>
> > From: Ricci, Richard
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 7:47 PM
> > the lomelin olmos line descends from luis lomelin and
> not
> > carlos
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on
> behalf
> > of patricia burton
> > Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 7:36 PM
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
> >
> >
> >
> > To Richard R.--
> >
> > My husband comes from the LOMELI/LOMELIN/ LOMELINI
> line. I
> > have worked on part of the lines of Miguel HIDALGO,
> namely
> > the ones that come from the GALLAGA part of the
> family.
> > Would you please give some details on this brother of
> Carlos
> > LOMELINI and how he fits into the Padre Miguel HIDALGO
> > family tree? Many thanks.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Patricia BURTON
> > San Diego, Ca.
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ricci, Richard
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Ricci, Richard
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:18 PM
> > > My notes have him as Carlos' brother. He is
> also
> > the
> > > ancestor of one of miguel Hidalgos lines. Miguel
> > Hidalgo
> > > Costilla descends from both brothers. The
> > Lomelin's from
> > > Puebla and Mexico City descend from Luis. Back
> then
> > the
> > > records show lomelin. Before that it is Lomellini
> or
> > > lomelini. It wasn't until later that people
> > started
> > > dropping the n. In Portugal the lomelin line
> added an
> > o to
> > > make Lomelino. And the stories are true about one
> > branch
> > > leaving Genoa , going to Spain and cornering the
> slave
> > trade
> > > there. There rest of the family was into more
> > legitimate
> > > businesses.
> > > There is a famous book that uses the Lomelini as
> the
> > main
> > > characters in the book. I have own a copy of the
> book
> > but I
> > > lent it to my niece and she hasn't returned
> it
> > yet. I
> > > have not read it because she was visiting when it
> > arrived
> > > and immediately asked to borrow it.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> on
> > behalf
> > > of Daniel M?ndez del Camino
> > > Sent: Fri 2/20/2009 11:46 PM
> > > To: Patty Hoyos
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > wHAT INFO DO OU HAVE ON LUíS LOMELINI? I HAVE
> NEVER
> > HEARD
> > > OF HIM JUST CARLO. -tHANKS. dANIEL
> > >
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I have found : jose Calletano perez married (1754) to Maria a Magdalena chavez father of Andres perez which is married (1793) to luisa villalpando I hope someone has more information in these area thanks.

I've been meaning to send an email to specifically thank Arturo Ramos for some helpful suggestions that he made some years back about where best to do my Pinedo research. Because I'm still a fairly new lawyer here in Brownsville, TX, I sometimes have to start and stop this research and can't always give it the full time I wish I could. Anyway, I have been making some recent breakthroughs I wanted to share, while searching the Jerez and Monte Escobedo ("ME") records, just as Arturo suggested, as follows:

Juan Anselmo Pinedo m. Margarita de Acuna
-Bartolo Pinedo (b.1766, Jerez)(m. Maria Josefa Gonzalez, 1789 ME)
--Gregorio Pinedo (b.1804, ME)(m. Agustina de Ulloa, 1834 ME)
---Pedro Pinedo (b.1842, ME)(m. Pioquinta Cardoza)
----Nicanor Pinedo (b.1880s?) (m. Emilia Gonzalez, 1914 Tlaltenango)
-----Jesus Maria Pineda (b.1930, Laredo) (m. Rebeca Cantu)

I can provide the specific dates if anyone is interested.

So I guess it's also pretty clear now that my great grandfather, Nicanor Pinedo, changed the spelling to "Pineda" when he came to Laredo, Texas in the 1920s, perhaps because that's how immigration officials spelled it on on his papers.

My follow up question to Arturo -- or anyone else -- is whether anyone has found a paper trail showing the parents of Juan Anselmo Pinedo. From what I can tell on familysearch.com, it appears that he and Margarita de Acuna had several children, but I've not been able to go back further and find Juan Anselmo Pinedo's parents, in part because it looks lots of Jerez baptism and marriage records are missing.

Can anyone help?

Also, I noticed in a baptism record for Jerez in the early 1740s, there was a reference to the child being from "Puesto de los Pinedos." Has anyone ever heard of this place?

Thanks!

Chris Pineda

Hi Daniel,
At the top of family search, below the words Family Search, there's five subjects: RECORDS, GENEALOGIES, CATALOG, BOOKS, and WIKI -click on the one that says "CATALOG," then click on "Film/Fiche Number" and enter your number, (in this case) the number 1095309 and hit search. It will then bring you to the parish register where your record is located, in this case it will be: Item 4, Items 1-3: Registros parroquiales, 1800-1929. Click on it and then find your number "1095309" and you'll see that your record is located in Matrimonios 1861-1865. And here is your actual record:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939D-68F3-1?i=110&owc=collectio…

Chris