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Sagrada Mitra records

Here's Luz Montejano web page.  It isn't updated very frequently but
it has some information and an email address to write to her.

http://www.prodigyweb.net.mx/luzmontejano/

Victor Villarreal

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> Thanks Rosalinda maybe later we can have you or someone interview the 
> Author Luz Montejano. . .do we have a volunteer for this project?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> lareina2@i... wrote:
> 
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I just thought I would add that the Sagrada Mitra book costs $160.  I 
> > purchased it a few months ago, and it is tremendously helpful and 
> > interesting.  It has a lengthy index, and the entries summarize the 
> > relationships between pretensos.  As a favor to the group, I would be 
> > happy to do lookups of names.  The book focuses on the areas within 
> > the archbishopric of Guadalajara, from the late 1600s until the early 
> > 1700s.  If you want me to look up a name for you, send me the
complete 
>

Sagrada Mitra records

Thanks Rosalinda maybe later we can have you or someone interview the
Author Luz Montejano. . .do we have a volunteer for this project?



thanks,



joseph





lareina2@... wrote:

Hi group,


I just thought I would add that the Sagrada Mitra book costs $160.  I
purchased it a few months ago, and it is tremendously helpful and
interesting.  It has a lengthy index, and the entries summarize the
relationships between pretensos.  As a favor to the group, I would be
happy to do lookups of names.  The book focuses on the areas within the
archbishopric of Guadalajara, from the late 1600s until the early
1700s.  If you want me to look up a name for you, send me the complete
names of a couple (and parents if you know them), their location, and
approximate dates to my private email address.   I'll respond as soon
as possible.  The summaries briefly relate what is in the dispensation,
along with the FHC film number so you can look up the actual document.
 
Rosalinda
 


-----Original

Sagrada Mitra records

Thank you.


Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- lareina2@... wrote:


---------------------------------
Hi group,

I just thought I would add that the Sagrada Mitra book
costs $160.  I purchased it a few months ago, and it
is tremendously helpful and interesting.  It has a
lengthy index, and the entries summarize the
relationships between pretensos.  As a favor to the
group, I would be happy to do lookups of names.  The
book focuses on the areas within the archbishopric of
Guadalajara, from the late 1600s until the early
1700s.  If you want me to look up a name for you, send
me the complete names of a couple (and parents if you
know them), their location, and approximate dates to
my private email address.   I'll respond as soon as
possible.  The summaries briefly relate what is in the
dispensation, along with the FHC film number so you
can look up the actual document.
 
Rosalinda
 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arturo Ramos 
Sent: Oct 10, 2005 11:29 AM 
To: ranchos

Sagrada Mitra records

Hi group,

I just thought I would add that the Sagrada Mitra book costs $160.  I purchased it a few months ago, and it is tremendously helpful and interesting.  It has a lengthy index, and the entries summarize the relationships between pretensos.  As a favor to the group, I would be happy to do lookups of names.  The book focuses on the areas within the archbishopric of Guadalajara, from the late 1600s until the early 1700s.  If you want me to look up a name for you, send me the complete names of a couple (and parents if you know them), their location, and approximate dates to my private email address.   I'll respond as soon as possible.  The summaries briefly relate what is in the dispensation, along with the FHC film number so you can look up the actual document.
 
Rosalinda
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arturo Ramos
Sent: Oct 10, 2005 11:29 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Sagrada Mitra records

Alicia:

I must say I have been very lucky as well.  I actually

Sagrada Mitra records

Alicia:

I must say I have been very lucky as well.  I actually started last 
Spring, but like Maria, I had help from some relatives.  On my 
maternal side, I have an aunt who has incredible memory and still 
recalls the names and family history of her great-grandparents from 
stories told to her as a child.  On my paternal side, my father was 
made the keeper of family history when he was handed a pile of 
documents by an uncle shortly before his death.  These two 
repositories made it much easier to delve into the baptismal records 
since I had good family information going back to the late 1800s.

The next piece of luck I had was that the main town where I have been 
researching (Totatiche, Jalisco) has immaculate church records... no 
missing books and all indexed in IGI and VRI.  Now that I have 
started branching out more and more to other towns, I realize that 
this is not the case everywhere.

Finally, my primas, Rosalinda Ruiz and Angie Godina, from this group 
have helped me

Sagrada Mitra records

Alicia,

I am one of those lucky ones who have gotten back that far.  The 
thing that helped me is that one of my relatives had done some 
research prior to me starting mine.  She gave me copies of certified 
baptismal records for 5 generations back.  That helped with one of my 
grandparent's lineage.  Then, I delved into the Sagrada Mitra records 
and found one dispensa that gave me 5 generations for one couple.  
The dispensa is 24 pages long and includes interviews of at least 5 
individuals.  The marriage took place in 1735.  That dispensa gave me 
my big breakthrough when I borrowed a copy of Retoños de España en la 
Nueva Galicia and found several of my lines going back to the 
1500's!  Needless to say, that was a very exciting moment for me.  

I have several genealogy books, but in my opinion, there isn't a 
single book that is as comprehensive as Retoños (vol 2) for those of 
us researching roots in Nueva Galicia.  I am anxiously awaiting for 
the new editions which the author

New Towns in My Research: Mazapil and Jerez (Monte Escobedo), Zacatecas

Arturo:
I'm interested in finding more about Sagrada Mitra de
Guadalajara. Does it have website or files at the LDS?
 Please let me know.

Regards

Alberto Duarte Prieto



--- Arturo Ramos  wrote:

> This weekend I looked through the Sagrada Mitra de
> Guadalajara (which 
> by the way is an incredible resource that everyone
> should look at if 
> you have traced your lineages going back as far as
> the 1700s) and made 
> a couple of breakthroughs.  These have taken my
> research to some new 
> towns, namely Mazapil, Zacatecas and Jerez (most
> likely the area around 
> Monte Escobedo) and I would like to find out who is
> doing research in 
> these places and any hints that would be useful.
> 
> The breakthroughs are as follows:
> 
> Juan Antonio ARANZAZU was born in 1696 in Mazapil,
> Zacatecas, 
> illegitimate son of Captain Antonio DE LA BARREDA
> and Isabel DE PIERO.  
> He later moved to Guadalajara, where he was raised
> and schooled by Sr. 
> Doctor Don

New Towns in My Research: Mazapil and Jerez (Monte Escobedo), Zacatecas

Arturo,
 
I have to say congratulations, I'm very happy for you and at the same time a little envious of your accomplishments. How long have you been researching your ancestry that you have gotten this far back in time? I think for those of us who think we are not getting there as fast as we'd like or making as much progress as others seemingly are making, we'd like to know and get an approximate time of reference so as not to get too discouraged. We need a little encouragement. I not only put that question out to you but to the rest of the group.
 
Another question to the group is how many of you are doing lateral research. By lateral I mean across one time span say in a 50 year range. I'll give an example 1900-1950 which is where I'm focusing on now. This would include aunts and uncles, their children, spouses and descendants. For me at least it makes it very interesting to be able to put a face with the names. Another reason I'm doing this is because our area of research is so small

New Towns in My Research: Mazapil and Jerez (Monte Escobedo), Zacatecas

This weekend I looked through the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara (which 
by the way is an incredible resource that everyone should look at if 
you have traced your lineages going back as far as the 1700s) and made 
a couple of breakthroughs.  These have taken my research to some new 
towns, namely Mazapil, Zacatecas and Jerez (most likely the area around 
Monte Escobedo) and I would like to find out who is doing research in 
these places and any hints that would be useful.

The breakthroughs are as follows:

Juan Antonio ARANZAZU was born in 1696 in Mazapil, Zacatecas, 
illegitimate son of Captain Antonio DE LA BARREDA and Isabel DE PIERO.  
He later moved to Guadalajara, where he was raised and schooled by Sr. 
Doctor Don Joseph DE MIRANDA VILLAYZAN of the Consejo de su Majestad, 
Oidor de la Real Audiencia de Nueva Galicia.

(Juan) Joseph PINEDO GAMBOA was most likely born in Monte Escobedo and 
baptized in Jerez circa 1700 (though I can't find his baptismal record 
in VRI... looks

Communication I had with Colotlan Yahoo Group

yes my Spanish failed me. I was thinking that but didn't say anything
close to it. Can you help me draft a letter?



just a paragraph or two with that same message as below would be great.




thanks,



joseph





v.h.villarreal wrote:

Joseph,

Just an opinion from a different perspective.  What I got from what
Norma Angelica Mendoza Sandoval wrote is that they are currently
struggling to launch their radio project and I really doubt that they
would relinquish the privilege of making their debut with an
unpublished material.

Maybe you can reformulate your proposal and offer them to upload their
audio tapes some time "after" they have aired them first.  Make it
very clear that you would give proper credits and add a link to their
website, etc.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
  

Emilie Garcia wrote:

    
So what did she say, Joseph?  Will she send you tapes or snippets of 
their programming for your podcasts?