What does this mean?
"Que nacio Sabado trece del corriente..." "He was born Saturday the 13th of previous month" ????????? thanks, joseph
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"Que nacio Sabado trece del corriente..." "He was born Saturday the 13th of previous month" ????????? thanks, joseph
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From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Emilie Garcia
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 3:06 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: information on records & "Guardar Reposo 40 días"When I was working at a hospital in Silicon Valley, we hired several Vietnamese immigrants (mostly women) as interpreters. They too have the custom of the new mother not leaving her bed for an extended time (how long I can't remember). During this period the mother was waited on hand and foot by her family and served her meals at bedside to eat alone. They were mostly Buddhists. How curious that such a custom is practiced world-wide! I wonder if the Bible or the Koran or Buddhist, etc. teachings all dictate that practice for new mothers?Emilie GarciaPort Orchard, WA.----- Original Message -----From: Joseph PuentestSent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:52 AMSubject: Re: [ranchos] Re: information on records & "Guardar Reposo 40 días"
Was it literal or was it not. I bet that in different time periods this
rule went from being widely practiced to not. Let's find out.
okay many people have relatives they are visiting when they go to
Mexico. . .let's start asking the old ones what they remember. We don't
need to make this the center of our investigation but a couple of
questions in passing makes for keeping the conversation interesting.
a civil discussion like this is so interesting. . .thank you all for
participating.
joseph
v.h.villarreal wrote:
>I really doubt that this is an accurate interpretation or a widespread
>practice even in the old days. "Guardar reposo por 40 días" or
>resting for 40 days wasn't supposed to be taken that the mother should
>stay in bed, not taking a bath, etc. rather that she should "keep the
>husband away from her bed for 40 days", if you know what I mean...
>
>Victor
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I have a coworker who is
of Indian descent and they, too, have a similar custom. The new mother stays abed and the relatives do all the housework, preparation of food, etc. The mother is not allowed to do anything but take care of the newborn. The duration of this custom is 40 days. Peggy
Delgado
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thank you Linda for the wonderful story of your gr-grandma Tula. .
.great story about her skills and knowledge. We have truly lost a lot of
knowledge when our old people pass away without trying to learn as much
as can from them.
My Grandmother Virginia Diaz (dob: Dec 15, 1886 Las Animas, Jalisco) was
a curandera of sorts. She knew some medicines but not as in depth as
I've heard others describe, but she did learn the art of midwifery. I
heard a story of how my sister went into labor and was going to the
hospital but stopped by to see my Grandma on the way. My Grandmother
said that the child was improperly positioned and if my sister wanted
her to repositon the child. Of course my sister said yes and by a series
of hand manipulations with my sister laying in a blanket that was being
pulled to put pressure on my sisters stomach the child was persuaded to
reposition properly. My sister said that she then went on to the
hospital and had a very very easy birth considering it
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I just talked with my relative who's mother, Paula Castanon (1896) was the midwife, she said her mom would help the Dr. in there town near Fresno Ca. for births and that was in the 20's, 30's and 40's. She also mentioned that here stateside we get 6 weeks pregnancy leave... that's 42 days so is it just an old world custom? She also said her Mom did ventosas. People would come to her home when they had muscular problems. She was good at massaging backs, arm and ankle sprains and she also used special herbs but my relative couldn't remember what they were.. I had never heard that word before so I'm still learning! Linda in Wa.
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In a message dated 7/22/2005 8:51:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
raices_regias@... writes:
Victor, actually I think that you both are correct. I grew up with
the same tradition, that the women had to stay IN HER HOUSE, DO NO PHYSICAL LABOR during the first 40 days. In extended family situations, the mother or spinster sister would come, help with the older children and do the cooking and cleaning. It was generally believed that if you did not take care of yourself during this critical time period, it would make you weak (perhaps even die), and could possibly affect you from having future children. The men accepted this |
it would seem the the women of the world over time developed "traditions" that worked to keep them healthier, happier and connected with other women. Birth control didn't exist as we know it and large families were the rule both by religion and by economics in Mexico. It sounds like 40 days worked the world over. My fathers aunt was a midwife in the district of Jerez Zacatecas. She learned her trade from her mother, Gertrudis Caldera (1869). It was a mixture of religion and Indian medicines. If someone died, she knew all the litanies by heart and was always called and never failed to go, she spend hours teaching her daughter to recite them by heart too. In El Durazno she was also the one who directed preparing the body for burial. She delivered babies, fixed aches and pains, gave us Yuerba-Buena for tummy aches and had a remedy for everything. She was a blend of superstitious and religious. In doing the genealogy I find her Garcia ancestors were Indio and her Alcala
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The following is an excerpt from another website that describes Cambodian customs. When I was working at the hospital, I noticed a distinct physical resemblance between some of the Mexicans and the Cambodian interpreters. Now here is a description of a similar custom found in Mexico---the string around a pregnant woman's waist. It is coming back to me somewhat--what that pregnant woman told me about wearing a string around her waist--I believe she said it was to ensure a good pregnancy.
Emilie
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Many Cambodian villagers believe that a pregnant mother and new born infant are vulnerable to the attentions of mday daem, a spirit who is considered to be the mother of the child in a previous life. The previous mother is thought to be still emotionally attached to the child. If the original mother finds fault with the current mother, either during pregnancy or once the baby is born, the spirit mother will try to take the baby back, and this will
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